How To Charge A Nissan Ariya and Nissan LEAF On A Tesla Supercharger

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@im4udevco
@im4udevco Ай бұрын
For the life of me, I'm befuddled as to why Nissan Leaf didn't switch the CCS1 for NA. If they had switched and added an active cooling for their BMS in the Leaf, it would have been a winner for low cost EV with the Bolt EV. Let's hope they survive. Thanks Tom and I'm always learning every time I watch your channel.
@EVVolksmanID.4
@EVVolksmanID.4 Ай бұрын
As a former owner of a 2011, 2105 and 2019 Nissan Leafs I could not understand why they would not upgrade them. They were terrific cars. I guess making these types of changes was just too costly? Once the battery heated up from one DC fast charge any attempt to do a second fast charge was agonizingly slow. Only did one road trop really in the 2019 and my wife wasn't happy.😂
@DonBarthel
@DonBarthel Ай бұрын
​​@@EVVolksmanID.4with the 62kWh LEAF, you can do two fast charges in a day before the charging speed slows appreciably. That's good for about 500 miles a day, assuming a level 2 to 100% overnight.
@GROGU123
@GROGU123 Ай бұрын
Neither the Leaf or Bolt are designed to be road trip cars. You're supposed to just commute and charge at home. They are extremely outdated with their electronics.
@jrghays46
@jrghays46 12 күн бұрын
​@@GROGU123 The Bolt can be road tripped fairly painlessly these days. If you don't drive a Kia or Hyundai, 45 mins at a fast charger is not unusual. In that same time span, the bolt can typically fast charge enough to make it to the next waypoint. The charge rate is not impressive, but the battery is fairly small at 66kwh and that somewhat compensates for the low charge rate. Someone in an Equinox or Lightning capped at 150 kw peak rate will end up plugged in just as long as the bolt owner.
@TheamazingKSullivan
@TheamazingKSullivan Ай бұрын
The pin is actually to lock the NACS side of the adaptor, so it’s impossible to disconnect the NACS plug when the adaptor is plugged into the car.
@lemongavine
@lemongavine Ай бұрын
Sounds like an important safety feature and one in which the other manufacturers should include
@GregHassler
@GregHassler Ай бұрын
​@@lemongavinethe other manufacturers accommodate the same thing in a different way. This is just the way Tesla designed it. The Lectron, for instance, has its own separate latch for the NACS plug, and if you press that button to release it, charging will stop immediately. Similar on the A2Z, where the single latch is integrated into releases on both sides. None of the adapters are able to be just pulled out while charging.
@lemongavine
@lemongavine Ай бұрын
@@GregHassler great. Thanks!
@robsquared2
@robsquared2 Ай бұрын
The adapter chain reminds me of that old picture of someone converting something like usb to ps2 to serial to parallel.
@nevco8774
@nevco8774 Ай бұрын
There is a difference: Nissan, I guess for cost cutting, has shot itself into the foot by modifying CCS1 port leaving the space between 2 DC fast charging pins on the port empty using just a sliver of plastic around the pins. That is not exactly CCS1. You can't have any modifications in USB or PS2 ports or plugs, and those to be able to still work.
@nomadichippie
@nomadichippie 26 күн бұрын
Than😅k u for showing my video
@mtbse789
@mtbse789 Ай бұрын
Crazy that Nissan was the early king of ev's.
@danielgonzalezramos4933
@danielgonzalezramos4933 Ай бұрын
Finally!! I have a 2024 Nissan Ariya engage+
@adrianastephens5145
@adrianastephens5145 23 күн бұрын
I had never heard of the Ariya until 5 days before I purchased one! I was shocked and impressed with EVERYTHING about the ARIYA. I Wasnt even considering an EV. I was looking into hybrids toyota and honda but then a thought went through my head. "does nissan have a hybrid?" I found out they don't, but oh boy when i saw the ARIYA, I became obsessed.. lol There are so many excellent USED 23 Ariyas out there just sitting on the lots for less than half the MSRP! I wish everyone would look into it to make sure the market stays good for Ariyas and we have many many years of support from Nissan and/or Honda if they merge.
@kellenniles4581
@kellenniles4581 26 күн бұрын
I have a Leaf with an A2Z CCS to Chademo adapter and the Tesla NACS to CCS adapter and putting those together I have never gotten it to work (I was at a station that supported other vehicle brands). Also every time I tried it, my Leaf would throw up a EV System fault light afterwards until I turned my car off and back on again. Otherwise my A2Z adapter works amazing and I haven't used Chademo in months, if this adapter ever breaks I'm completely screwed.
@JeffS_EV_Talks
@JeffS_EV_Talks 2 күн бұрын
Have you made sure it is the V3 or above super charger?
@kellenniles4581
@kellenniles4581 2 күн бұрын
@JeffS_EV_Talks Yes it was a V3 charger
@middler5212
@middler5212 Ай бұрын
I’m super relieved to hear that an adapter even exists for my leaf!! 😅
@geft
@geft Ай бұрын
Thanks Tom. I ordered my adapter and it is on the way. 😊
@spencerc.3473
@spencerc.3473 17 күн бұрын
Bought a 2024 Leaf SV Plus and assumed I could get a CCS adapter eventually, but NACS too is so cool and unexpected! Only car to have access to all 3 plugs.
@Sneaker_Net
@Sneaker_Net Ай бұрын
Thanks Tom, this is good info. Makes more think I can get a LEAF again.
@ralanham76
@ralanham76 Ай бұрын
Why they don't have active cooling.
@JeffS_EV_Talks
@JeffS_EV_Talks 2 күн бұрын
@@ralanham76 Per Nissan slide deck it is because they were designed that way. Only a Battery Heater was added to keep the Battery from Freezing during extreme cold weather.
@EVVolksmanID.4
@EVVolksmanID.4 Ай бұрын
Tom, in the video with the Cyber Pizza truck you mentioned you had an Italian restaurant in Montclair? Was it on Valley Road near Tierney's? This video is bringing back fond memories. You installed one of the first level two chargers there back in 2011 or there about. We had a 2011 Nissan Leaf and it had like 75 miles of range. We couldn't make it from Basking Ridge to Montclair and back so we would stop at your restaurant and eat and charge the car. My wife remembers you had bottles with corks on the tables? And you had gluten free food. She is on a gluten free diet. You had a BMW with EV graphics on the side? This was you I hope? 😂You are definitely the OG of EV's! We have come a long way since 2011!
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Ай бұрын
@@EVVolksmanID.4 Yep. That was me!
@EVVolksmanID.4
@EVVolksmanID.4 Ай бұрын
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Thanks for the inspiration, being the original EV Guru, and the early help when I too was an early adopter. I check for new videos from you daily. Also listen to your podcasts with the other guys on Batteries Included. Who would have thought in 2011 that a Nissan Leaf could charge at a Tesla Supercharger! We have come a long way! The Leaf is gone but now we drive a VW ID.4 and Tesla M3 RWD. Waiting for the video when the ID.4 can use an adapter at SC's. Hopefully it will be sooner rather than later. Thanks Again!
@steveallwine1443
@steveallwine1443 Ай бұрын
I am very happy that you verified my Lectron NACS adapter will work with my Ariya without issue. Thank you!
@ThePoolboy789
@ThePoolboy789 Ай бұрын
that little push pin in the tesla adapter also locks the switch that allows you to disconnect from the super charger. so when it is connected to the vehicle it is not possible to remove the supercharger handle before removing the adapter.
@MikesCarInfo
@MikesCarInfo Ай бұрын
Shared.
@johnbaker5533
@johnbaker5533 Ай бұрын
It is not all V3s & V4s Tom. There are a couple of hundred sites that you cannot even with an adaptor. They are just Tesla only. There however now 18,830 NACS adapter stalls you can use them on (+ 1,488 stalls with Magic Docks enabled you could always use)
@jyearr6744
@jyearr6744 Ай бұрын
Do you have a link to where these are?
@johnbaker5533
@johnbaker5533 Ай бұрын
@@jyearr6744 Can't link on youtube but search for "supercharge info" for the website
@johnbaker5533
@johnbaker5533 Ай бұрын
@@jyearr6744 supercharge info has a map of this
@johnbaker5533
@johnbaker5533 Ай бұрын
@@jyearr6744 You can't link to anything on youtube and it just deletes any comments. Even describing them gets deleted. There is a map which shows the supercharge stalls out there.
@JimmyDorff
@JimmyDorff Ай бұрын
I want to charge my old non CCS upgrade-able Tesla via NACS -> CCS -> CHAdeMO -> Tesla.
@evahsia
@evahsia Ай бұрын
I finally received my official Ford adapter yesterday, and I have one of the first Lightnings. So, the pipeline from Tesla must be opening up.
@iAmInsaine22
@iAmInsaine22 Ай бұрын
*Cries in ID.4 ownership*
@MarkSparks-xd9yy
@MarkSparks-xd9yy Ай бұрын
I was at a Gen 4 Supercharger yesterday & for some reason the magic dock was not enabled. It said I could charge if I had an adapter. Just off I-35 at Lamoni , Iowa.
@agentcarder
@agentcarder Ай бұрын
Maybe due to recall on magic docks right now
@mongo64071
@mongo64071 Ай бұрын
I hope that the magic dock plug becomes the standard for chargers so we all don’t need to pay $235 more for an adapter. I mean no one pays for an adapter for a gas tank to fill up at a gas station. That detail should be provided by the charging station if they want customers.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney 29 күн бұрын
It probably won't. It adds complexity and cost. The companies would prefer to move that cost to you. That sucks, but that's business...
@mongo64071
@mongo64071 29 күн бұрын
these EVs are really not saving $$ when you include chargers, adapters, electricians, etc. I could buy gasoline for a Prius for 3 years for the cost of just the charging setup for 1 EV. Not worth it. ​⁠I can buy a lot of gas for $235
@phgiblin
@phgiblin 28 күн бұрын
​@@mongo64071 Pretty sure the minimum three oil and filter changes you need over the three years is going to cost about that $235 if your using quality oil. Also not everyone needs this, but you do need three oil changes...
@nomadichippie
@nomadichippie 26 күн бұрын
I’ve been charging my leaf a nacs super chargers for about two months now
@ericroe
@ericroe Ай бұрын
Most of the Tesla stalls are labeled. I’ve been to multiple Tesla Superchargers that don’t have stall labels.
@daemoncan2364
@daemoncan2364 Ай бұрын
NACS to CCS to ChaDeMo. Rube Goldberg would be proud.
@DVLITTLEPILOT
@DVLITTLEPILOT 19 күн бұрын
What are your thought on the Leaf Adaptor will they get cheaper ?? just your best guess
@bjm23vancity92
@bjm23vancity92 Ай бұрын
Nissan is in serious trouble. Recently they made the decision to merge the Infinity dealers to the Nissan ones. The Ariya seems like a pretty good EV but they seem to struggle with everything they do these days...
@DavidPlayfair
@DavidPlayfair Ай бұрын
Why on Earth hasn't Nissan produced their own Chademo to CCS convertor? Crazy!
@techismycologne
@techismycologne Ай бұрын
Now this makes me wonder - can you use native Magic-Dock chargers with the built in adapter without the gap filler? Is the adapter on magic dock different and lacking this pin?
@UpcraftConsulting
@UpcraftConsulting Ай бұрын
Magic dock is different. It locked to the tesla handle before releasing so did not need this pin. Many Aria owners have used magic dock without issue. The magic dock cannot release until paired back in the dispenser cradle so nobody steals it. Like an anti theft tag from a store it needs that special tool to unlock.
@barryw9473
@barryw9473 Ай бұрын
Volvo dealers in SF Area do not yet stock adapter.
@BozarthPrime
@BozarthPrime 5 күн бұрын
It is very frustrating how much Nissan has been hanging Leaf owners out to dry with the changing fast charger ports. They made a choice to stick with the CHAdeMO and so many people bought the car because it is a great little car and made an assumption that since no one in the NA market was making a decision on things that it would eventually get sorted and adapters would happen but here we are. The only adapters Leaf owners get are 3rd party ones.
@jsmedicalassisting6000
@jsmedicalassisting6000 10 күн бұрын
The A2Z adapters don’t work on Tesla super charger. I’ve tired a few different super chargers and they all fail. Done several updates nothing works.
@chunkychuck
@chunkychuck Ай бұрын
Props to nomadic hippie for getting the Leaf to work!
@kylestruble6568
@kylestruble6568 17 күн бұрын
Can you show a video of charging a Ariya on Tesla if you get a chance
@RONderluck
@RONderluck 14 күн бұрын
You’re joking right?
@EricDrummondBPCP
@EricDrummondBPCP Ай бұрын
So question because prices on the Nissan Aria are pretty good. I've been looking at this along with the Chevy bolt uv but question that little plastic piece it's not going to break over time. If you leave it in the charge port like if I don't want to keep putting it in and taking it out, can I leave it in the charge port and it won't it won't break over time or wear out over time? Will it? Great video by the way. Keep up the great work and have a good one. Lol. Those two combinations for the Nissan leaf look like a old school dust vacuum. Like when you want to get the stuff out the couch lol
@Jeddin
@Jeddin Ай бұрын
The instructions say to leave it in the port. Its not supposed to be removed once put in. Theres no reason either to ever take it out anyway
@EricDrummondBPCP
@EricDrummondBPCP Ай бұрын
@Jeddin okay so once it's in place you're not really supposed to take it out but it's not going to break over time. Is it? Because I'm getting to feeling that over time and it being plastic it might break. But thanks for that response. I appreciate it because like I said, I've been looking at the Aria and I've been looking at the euv and I plan to do mostly home charging. But if there's ever an instance where I might need to use a supercharger, there's way more superchargers around my house than anything else.
@Jeddin
@Jeddin Ай бұрын
@ it shouldnt break. Its just a space occupier in a space where nothing should ever touch it except that small depressible pin on the Tesla adaptor. I cant imagine anything else ever hitting it forcibly in that area to break it.
@nhokawa
@nhokawa 18 күн бұрын
@@EricDrummondBPCP It's a very sturdy piece of plastic, I don't think it will ever break. It's also available by itself for $7 if you already have a CCS to NACS adapter.
@mrdsn189
@mrdsn189 Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@SteveBrooks-v9y
@SteveBrooks-v9y 29 күн бұрын
I'm confused as to why an older (pre-V3) Tesla Supercharger won't charge a Chademo vehicle with a Tesla to Chademo adapter. PLC is not being used, correct, so why? And the same in reverse for the Tesla to Chademo adapter at a NON-Tesla NACS Supercharger station, that won't work either (because it is PLC only), correct?
@alexmartin831
@alexmartin831 20 күн бұрын
The problem is starting the charge. Cannot do it from the Tesla app as you can for v3 and above.
@Dave_E_M
@Dave_E_M Ай бұрын
Thanks for the update Tom. Has A2Z confirmed that their 2 adapters together will charge a LEAF at a Supercharger?
@GregHassler
@GregHassler Ай бұрын
I don't believe Leafs will be enabled for it. Similar to how Ford Focus Electrics can't charge on Superchargers even though other Ford's can.
@IronmanV5
@IronmanV5 Ай бұрын
Looks like Nissan & Toyota/Subaru used the same source for their port. Only other EV where there is a space between the DC pins is the Hyundai Kona/Kia Niro. But that's at the top and bottom.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Ай бұрын
Yeah, I posted that in the video @4:08
@michaelmlt
@michaelmlt 25 күн бұрын
BMW sent out a letter to some customers so hopefully some movement for us.
@Mobile_Dom
@Mobile_Dom Ай бұрын
I give it a month before A2z has a chademo to NACS adaptor based off of the chademo to CCS adaptor
@GregHassler
@GregHassler Ай бұрын
I think someone should just make a conversion kit for the Leaf, to permanently make it CCS.
@Mobile_Dom
@Mobile_Dom Ай бұрын
@@GregHassler someone tried a couple years ago IIRC in the Netherlands, but it was like 10 grand
@bobcarpenter1551
@bobcarpenter1551 Ай бұрын
It seems like this little pin could easily be 3D printed, given the right materials.Also, why didn't they just make it fill the whole thing in?
@ralanham76
@ralanham76 Ай бұрын
They saved 2 cents 😂
@pilotboba
@pilotboba Ай бұрын
Probably so you can remove it. However, I'm not sure why that would ever be needed.
@chrishansel9324
@chrishansel9324 Ай бұрын
Hi tom I have a question about nacs to ccs 1 adaptors. Do they just do DC input? So in other words do you still need a nacs to j1772 for ac charging? I need to replace my tesla tap and I was wondering if I could just get one adaptor. Thanks and I really appreciate keeping us informed on all the new charging equipment.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Ай бұрын
Yes, only DC. You need an AC adapter for AC charging.
@chrishansel9324
@chrishansel9324 Ай бұрын
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney thanks
@boeingav8tr525
@boeingav8tr525 Ай бұрын
looks like a 3d printed part would work for the Arriya
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Ай бұрын
Yep
@tomgibbs8809
@tomgibbs8809 Ай бұрын
So, do the CCS1 plugs at non Tesla DC chargers have the lower pin? I’ve looked for pictures and all I can find are plugs with no lower pin? Are we being unsafe at these DC chargers? I don’t think so.
@GregHassler
@GregHassler Ай бұрын
No, regular CCS plugs do not have that pin, it's only used on the adapter to secure the NACS plug so it can't be pulled out while the adapter is plugged into the car. Hard to explain but it's just a very simple interlock for the release on the other side.
@tomgibbs8809
@tomgibbs8809 Ай бұрын
@, that’s what I’m getting at, theres not really a reason for the pin. The Tesla plug, plus adapter is no heavier than the CCS plug on an EVgo station.
@bobberardino9760
@bobberardino9760 Ай бұрын
Is that small plastic piece needed if you use a Tesla Magic Dock?
@OlsenAaron
@OlsenAaron Ай бұрын
Yes, the magic dock uses the same Tesla manufactured NACS to CCS1 adapter as Tom showed in the video
@user-nisjer05
@user-nisjer05 Ай бұрын
No, the Magic Dock does not have the pin to lock the NACS cable in the adapter. It uses an electromagnetic lock.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney 29 күн бұрын
No, it's not necessary on Magic Dock
@Jeddin
@Jeddin Ай бұрын
What happens if you plug a wallcharger to a NACS to CCS adaptor as you did in the video? Will it pass current through and still work as a level 2 adaptor so you dont need a separate NACS to J1772 adaptor?
@spendle
@spendle Ай бұрын
You'll need a separate adapter.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Ай бұрын
No. These are only DC. You need an AC adapter for that.
@ralanham76
@ralanham76 Ай бұрын
Even if you could plug it in it won't work. It would be like plugging in a USB into an old serial port.
@tjackele
@tjackele Ай бұрын
Good info, Tom. Any idea/guess how soon my Hyundai will get authorized for NACS?
@GregHassler
@GregHassler Ай бұрын
I thought they announced it was coming in January?
@tjackele
@tjackele Ай бұрын
@ you are right kind of. Kia says Jan 15 as far as I know but no clear answer I’ve seen for Hyundai.
@bobjohnson4512
@bobjohnson4512 Ай бұрын
Are any car manufacturers starting to use the NACS port on their 2025 model production cars?
@RobBudge
@RobBudge Ай бұрын
Hyundai, Kia, and Genesis are.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Ай бұрын
Starting....on their new models. Not retrofitting existing models
@EzekielElin
@EzekielElin Ай бұрын
How is authorization working on the Leafs? I understand how the adapters physically work, but what is stopping someone like me with a BZ4X from saying I have a Nissan Leaf and plugging in to charge with a Lectron adapter?
@GregHassler
@GregHassler Ай бұрын
Somehow the communication protocol transmits information about the car, such as VIN or similar, so they can only enable the vehicles allowed to charge, you can't trick it.
@EzekielElin
@EzekielElin Ай бұрын
@ interesting, is the leaf adapter passing that information through? I would’ve expected it to appear as its own thing.
@jyearr6744
@jyearr6744 Ай бұрын
I think these adapter prices are insane. Will there ever be a sub 100 dollar model since this rollout is starting to happen?
@sabretooth77
@sabretooth77 Ай бұрын
That’s what I’m saying. I’m not pay $1,200 for both of those adapters if I wanna use Tesla chargers
@davidhoch
@davidhoch Ай бұрын
If I use this adapter with my Ariya and plug into a Tesla Level 2 destination charger, will it charge?
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Ай бұрын
No. These are for DC charging only. You need an AC adapter (NACS to J1772) for that.
@MDillonEV
@MDillonEV Ай бұрын
I have my Rivian adapter and, unless I'm confused, there is not a tesla super charger I can use where I live. Omaha, Ne. When will they open them all?
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Ай бұрын
They won't. The older V2 stations are not compatible so unless Tesla updates them (probably not anytime soon) only Tesla vehicles can use them.
@GregHassler
@GregHassler Ай бұрын
8801 W Center Rd, Omaha, NE Is a V3 that should charge your Rivian with an adapter.
@MDillonEV
@MDillonEV Ай бұрын
@GregHassler I'm only going by the Rivian app. The closest I see is in Lincoln.
@fiehlsport
@fiehlsport Ай бұрын
@@MDillonEVuse the Tesla app, under “Charge your other EV”
@keif_mn
@keif_mn Ай бұрын
Wait, you can just go to Nissan and buy a Tesla NACS to CCS adapter? I waited 9 months for Ford to send mine... 🤡
@barryw9473
@barryw9473 Ай бұрын
Did Ionna open up some sites?
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Ай бұрын
Not yet. Very soon.
@pfunk768
@pfunk768 Ай бұрын
Does this mean Tesla endorses or officially accepts the A2Z Chademo adapter?
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Ай бұрын
NO
@fiehlsport
@fiehlsport Ай бұрын
The Supercharger has no way of knowing what kind of adapters are being used, for what it’s worth.
@drewsmovs
@drewsmovs Ай бұрын
So to charge my 2018 SV LEAF at Tesla s/c I'll need to buy $999 CSS1>CHAdeMO & $185 NACS>CCS1 from A2Z (15% off with SOC coupon code on both?) from A2Z, or $285 from Nissan ... Yikes! PLEASE someone make an affordable NACS>CHAdeMO adapter for us LEAF owners?
@sabretooth77
@sabretooth77 Ай бұрын
Hopefully in the future the prices will drop. I heard it’s because they basically have tinny computers in them
@KnightAtomic
@KnightAtomic Ай бұрын
Does that lock the NACS so you can't unplug it?
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Ай бұрын
No, it's not a lock
@KnightAtomic
@KnightAtomic Ай бұрын
I didn't know if it locked the pin on the back so you can't undo the NACS while it's charging.
@GregHassler
@GregHassler Ай бұрын
Yes, it is, contrary to how Tom explains it. All the pin does is interlocks the release on the back side of the adapter so you can't press it down and release the NACS plug while the adapter is plugged into the car. If that interlock doesn't engage it won't allow the vehicle to charge. It does exactly what you explained.
@Anonymous-hy8oz
@Anonymous-hy8oz Ай бұрын
Is Mercedes next ?
@JulianZumaya-nd6xe
@JulianZumaya-nd6xe 28 күн бұрын
@thelake9596
@thelake9596 Ай бұрын
Good grief. As a Kia EV owner, I’m starting to feel stiffed by Tesla. It seams like we’re about a year behind what Tesla initially announced.
@JeremiahTownsend
@JeremiahTownsend Ай бұрын
The Kia and Ioniq lines are potentially the main rival to Tesla. Especially with your V2L features and the demonstrated usefulness during disasters.
@RobBudge
@RobBudge Ай бұрын
Kia is getting access to the Tesla network next month.
@Yanquetino
@Yanquetino Ай бұрын
Well… good for Nissan. I really am starting to wish that automakers had just made CCS-1 the "standard," like they did in Europe with CCS-2. With adapters, and authorization from Tesla, there would be NO problem. And Tesla would just have to adapt its ports, again like in Europe, and also in China.
@ralanham76
@ralanham76 Ай бұрын
It wasn't the automakers that chose ccs2 in Europe it was the government. In the US they let market forces win since Tesla has by far the most plugs everyone is now moving to them.
@Yanquetino
@Yanquetino Ай бұрын
​@@ralanham76 There are more CCS-1 sites than Tesla sites, but the latter has more stalls. That will change. Regardless, I still say it was a mistake to give E'loon any more power than he already has.
@ralanham76
@ralanham76 Ай бұрын
@@Yanquetino how many stalls are there, a search says around 5000 location? The search says 27000 supercharger. I don't think anyone gave Elon power the other automakers basically did nothing so now Tesla is the default. Just like everything else has happened the majority of users want whatever is common. It took 15 years for a common standard to show up.
@Yanquetino
@Yanquetino Ай бұрын
@@ralanham76 CCS-1: 9,015 stations; 20,174 stalls. Superchargers: 7,344 stations; 40,745 stalls. As I said, Tesla wins with stalls, not stations.
@BensEcoAdvntr
@BensEcoAdvntr Ай бұрын
Tom, Nissan kinda screwed me here and I'm hoping you are able to get in touch with them. We have an Ariya but also have a Bolt EUV. I ordered the NACS adapter from GM and the official Tesla one arrived back in October. I don't want or need a second adapter, but I'm basically required to in order to use the Ariya with a supercharger. For the life of me I can't understand why they don't sell that little plug separately. If they did, I'd be golden. But as of right now I'm pretty mad.
@glennmcgurrin8397
@glennmcgurrin8397 Ай бұрын
Someone needs to get the dimensions of the cavity so a filler can be 3d printed
@GregHassler
@GregHassler Ай бұрын
Fill it with some epoxy
@pilotboba
@pilotboba Ай бұрын
You can fix anything with chewing gum and duct tape.
@Anthony__420
@Anthony__420 Ай бұрын
No wonder why Nissan is two years from going belly up
@lukastemberger
@lukastemberger Ай бұрын
Why would you charge on a supercharger? I'm happy to not have to touch anything Tesla...
@GregHassler
@GregHassler Ай бұрын
Because they're everywhere in the US and actually work unlike the EVgo and EA stations.
@lukastemberger
@lukastemberger Ай бұрын
@GregHassler For me the home charger is enough. My car got charged at a station exactly 3 times in 13 months. And in those three times, EA worked perfectly. There are plenty of them across the US too. I'll never charge at a supercharger because I don't want to support Musk, but even if that wasn't the case, I'd never need to.
@pilotboba
@pilotboba Ай бұрын
@@lukastemberger No everyone's usage mirrors yours. People are unique.
@lukastemberger
@lukastemberger Ай бұрын
@@pilotboba Absolutely. I'm just saying that even if I needed to charge outside of my home more, I wouldn't use a Tesla station. Not saying everyone needs to be like me, just sharing my pov :)
@L.L
@L.L 23 күн бұрын
You mean the Honda leaf lol
@RONderluck
@RONderluck 14 күн бұрын
Nope
@L.L
@L.L 14 күн бұрын
@ but leaf will become a Honda leaf very soon lol
@RONderluck
@RONderluck 14 күн бұрын
@ nope
@L.L
@L.L 14 күн бұрын
@ well yes they are mergin together so it will become Honda
@RONderluck
@RONderluck 14 күн бұрын
@ that merger will not happen
@darcygibbons3836
@darcygibbons3836 Ай бұрын
Good grief Nissan 😂
@gregpochet4812
@gregpochet4812 Ай бұрын
Only Nissan , who still is hanging onto Chademo, would screw up the Ariya's CCS port.
@Wised1000
@Wised1000 Ай бұрын
CHADAMO is the main reason Japan refuses to want to produce any decent EV's. CHADAMO is a 50kw standard and, in JAPAN, there are stations virtually everywhere. Furthermore, Japan is not a "driving" country, driving is mostly a city affair, the notion of "road tripping" is thoroughly alien, if you need to travel anywhere you take a fast train and thats it! Clean, very fast and given the superbly extensive city railway system, you don't really need a car unless running errands in town. The notion of a long range EV, that would benefit from very fast charging is a little alien to their whole idea of transportation. It's a pity since that has put the future of their whole auto industry in jeopardy.
@stevewausa
@stevewausa Ай бұрын
CHAdeMO on the Leaf Plus can do 100kW
@JeremiahTownsend
@JeremiahTownsend Ай бұрын
Nissan is not some small local Japanese company, new to exporting to America. They had plenty of time to adapt the Leaf to the American market like they are begrudging doing now, probably too late.
@bobnaruto123
@bobnaruto123 Ай бұрын
CHAdeMO is not a "50kw standard" it can go up 400 kW and there are 100kw stations in the usa and 150kw stations in japan.
@Wised1000
@Wised1000 Ай бұрын
​@@bobnaruto123 Please let me know of any chademo vehicle ever made that charged at over 50kw....
@bobnaruto123
@bobnaruto123 Ай бұрын
@@Wised1000 the Nissan Leaf Plus (60 kWh) can charge at 100kw, the Nissan ariya (japan) can charge at 130kw, the porsche taycan(japan) can charge at 150kw (this is immitted do to infrastructure in japan, if there where 350kw 800v chargers in japan it could charge just as fast as the CCS taycans ),toyota bz4x (japan), lexus rz450e (japan),subaru solterra (japan) can charge faster than 50kw(limited to how bad the charging is on those cars regardless of DC port) the E-GMP platform cars ex, Ioniq 5(japan), EV6(japan),Genesis GV60(japan),ectm can charge at 150kw(same limitation as the taycan). basically any that can charge faster than 50kw on CCS can charge just as fast on CHAdeMO giving an appropriate charger.
@ecarfun
@ecarfun Ай бұрын
poor Nissan lol
@busog97641
@busog97641 Ай бұрын
Amazing, right!?!
@sayanchx
@sayanchx Ай бұрын
This is an uniquely North Americanself inflicted problem- EU has forced the CCS2 standard on everyone . There is a adapter now available for CCS to Chademo for the leaf.
@GregHassler
@GregHassler Ай бұрын
Thank God North America didn't force the CCS 1 standard on us, now we get to use the better plug. A relatively small number of older CCS cars will be slightly inconvenienced.
@tonystorcke
@tonystorcke Ай бұрын
I like Nissan, but I am sad they screwed up their CCS port. They are finished. They did it to save a few dollars.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Ай бұрын
It looks like Toyota and Subaru uses the same chargeport for the bZ4X and Solterra
@LakeLake123
@LakeLake123 Ай бұрын
“Screwed up” seems a bit extreme. You spend 5 seconds sticking a $2 piece of plastic in a hole and never touch it again.
@Derpy1969
@Derpy1969 Ай бұрын
Nissan is going bankrupt. I wouldn’t touch them with someone else’s money.
@tabaks
@tabaks Ай бұрын
What a joke, especially with an UNRESOLVED Nissan Leaf fast battery charging recall.
@tonys9413
@tonys9413 Ай бұрын
This is absolutely comical for Leaf owners 🤡
@barryw9473
@barryw9473 Ай бұрын
Nissan is getting near bankruptcy. This silly plastic piece is a sad commentary on how it has lost its way.
@nyleanderson9796
@nyleanderson9796 Ай бұрын
This video is way too long
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Ай бұрын
Give us you're address and we'll send you a prompt refund 🙂
@teslabulls1238
@teslabulls1238 Ай бұрын
I have bad news for Nissan vehicle owners. Your company is, most likely, going out of business.
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