How To Check The Timing Chains + Guides On Your 5.0 or 5.0 SC V8 - They Shouldn't Make This Noise..

[@petercunningham5820]

I knew it was time to do mine when I was at a stop light and the guy next to me asked if it was a diesel LOL... I have an L405 SC that I did the timing chains on a few months ago. Big job, I made a video documenting the entire job start to finish.

[@colincooper4563]

I looked at your videos and did not see a video documenting the entire job start to finish

[@petercunningham5820]

@@colincooper4563 Its there. It was posted 4 months ago.

[@colincooper4563]

@@petercunningham5820 ok I see it thankyou will watch

[@ATX_Engineer]

Yeah, that video isn't listed

[@robertcastillo90]

Yeah its def not there you liar!

[@trevino37]

I think that timing chain test is a good method for novice when looking to purchase an LR4....do the push down with a screw driver test and see how much play it has.....even if it moves some, it provides some indication of how soon you will need the timing chain replaced....maybe or maybe not

[@FactsMattersUSA]

The timing belt change takes a few hours to change but you learn so much about your engine. I did mine in 2 hours and love my machine. Just be sure to buy the kit, not just the chains.

[@Spartansrule118]

this job only took you two hours the first time you did it?? i find that hard to believe

[@Melazai-q3h]

I’m glad I saw this video 😂.. I thought the timing was gone on mine. Mine sounds just like the silver one and I thought the timing was gone. I guess I will change the oil and plugs.

[@kylersrgv]

Yeah that rattle sounding like a marble rolling about is the supercharger coupler for sure.

[@AddictedMotors]

It needs all the things.

[@TheSaturnV]

In case anyone is wondering, this problem was solved for the 2013 model and up. It all came down to absolute moron engineering of the timing chain tensioner arms. The tensioner-plunger is made of hard steel and it pushes against an aluminum tensioner arm. Over time the plunger of the tensioner digs into the aluminum and the obvious outcome is premature slack in the whole chain setup, necessitating this way overly expensive repair. Land Rover redesigned the parts because they knew they goofed. I wonder how many of these beautiful machines will get "totalled" over owners not having the spare $6-$8k lying around to save their Rover.

[@petercunningham5820]

Weird....Mine is a 2013 5.0L SC and had this problem. I changed the chain, guides, and tensioners. I've got 20k miles on it since doing the job. Runs great.

[@powermoves101]

Interesting. My 2019 had this problem at 62k miles.

[@RealRegularAzzPerson]

im one of those owners

[@trevino37]

I heard of that solution but I think that solution only applied when you replace the timing change....I heard 2015 and 2016 are still affected by this timing change issue requiring the same fix with the part to prevent the issue from surfacing again...until something else goes

[@nasser-ist]

And then they introduced engine coolant leak problem to these new ones. Brilliant!

[@cpscps2679]

A 90k change interval for a timing chain is just insane. My truck has a90 k interval for the timing belt, but only a grand for it with water pump.

[@-jimmyjames]

the updated guides and angle geometry of the adjusters fixes this issue.

[@HuTcHHeeLaN]

In newer models? Or can you get those parts updated on a 2011 sport?

[@Spartansrule118]

@@-jimmyjamesland rover created those new parts?

[@lijax9606]

Updated chain kit pushes the interval to double that

[@cpscps2679]

@@lijax9606 a timing chain and associated hardware should last forever.

[@Chewie374]

That actually sounds like the supercharge coupler. Needs to be replace. Easy job.

[@AddictedMotors]

Yup, it was also replaced.

[@rippinmachines]

That is a lot of miles. Would this really be an issue if there was half the mileage on it? A lot of vehicles wouldn't be on the road anymore with 180+miles on them.

[@BRobinson28]

This comes from owners neglecting oil changes had mine since 2011 with 179k just changed my water pump and Lowe control arm

[@MegaSkypes]

Mine sounds fine at 113000 kms love the power!

[@-jimmyjames]

the problem areas were revised by mid2012-2013 ishhh

[@powermoves101]

I never see the supercharged V6 mentioned for having timing chain issues but mine did at 62k miles. To me, the setup looks the same minus 2 cylinders.

[@AddictedMotors]

It’s the same motor.

[@blakslee720]

Would you guys speculate that the 10k mile oil change interval (rec by the factory) is partially to blame for this problem?

[@AddictedMotors]

Could be. But most don’t change them at 90-100k.

[@ImagineRecordings]

Many Land Rover Forum discussions have brought this up. There is a general consensus that a more frequent oil change interval (every 3-5K miles or so) _does_ indeed seem to reduce wear on the guides or at least slow the wear down process, due to lessened exposure to consistently dirty oil, as well as maintaining optimal oil pressure within the engine (as opposed to consistently high-ish oil pressure). At this point, this "consensus" seems to be mostly anecdotal only, as no strenuous, measured A/B tests have been done to prove or disprove the theory. In my own experience with our LR4, regular oil changes at around every 3500 miles sure does seem to make a difference. We're at ~92K miles and it sounds as good (quiet and purring) as it did when we bought it at 67K miles. Will continue this oil change interval for as long as we have the truck, and hope we never run into this issue. It may ultimately happen, but if we can prolong it from happening as well as take better care of the engine in the process, I see no harm in that either way. :)

[@Chewie374]

100% i.cant.believe range rover recommend every 10k oil.change. idiots

[@petermacgregor9805]

Absolutely, if you change the oil at factory specs you will only get 70k - also make sure the oil levels are ok too!

[@jithendrabandarupalli9444]

Loved the work ❤ I’m just trying to buy a Range Rover hse 2012 with 1,30,000 miles on it what do you prefer me to check on it And what’s the life of a timing chain to replace..?

[@AddictedMotors]

Eh. Who knows. 60-100k? Depends on oil changes.

[@trevino37]

i have a 2002 p38 with 160k miles and no timing chain work required...not sure if the RR HSE has these same issues because I have not heard of any requiring replacement at the RR shop...seems like the LR4 are the ones affected by this.

[@htd000]

Question -Going to look at a used 2011 RRSC with 112k. Crankshaft position and misfire codes. Knowing it would need a timing chain and water pump, etc. would there be any further signs to look for as far as more extensive engine damage? clean rig and only asking 3500. Thanks

[@AddictedMotors]

Ouch, offer less!

[@harryj1081]

You do know that there’s a second chain on the left side called variable camshaft timing VCT units that could also has noises.

[@AddictedMotors]

Yup. They’re all bad.

[@smhri]

I’d buy it in that condition.

[@alextoussaint9424]

Any experience with these throwing a p2279 -air intake leak? Did a smoke test with no results and mechanic wants 4k for a timing chain replacement.

[@AddictedMotors]

Seems cheap for chains..

[@charged]

Are the supercharged engines more likely to need the guides done at 90-100k vs the NA 5.0 engine or is it an issue that effects both engines equally?

[@AddictedMotors]

Both.

[@trevino37]

I have a 2002 P38 with 160k miles and no chain work required......seems it only affects the LR4's.

[@macalvarezLA]

Not covered by warranty?

[@knockoutartist101]

Bruh, It still sounds like a diesel after the cold startup settles, not as bad as the beginning of the video, but I can definitely hear the diesel sort of noise.

[@alfredkiranga1237]

What is the estimated cost to fix a timing chain? Thanks

[@AddictedMotors]

6k

[@Ryeapatton]

How much was the full servicing on the LR4?

[@AddictedMotors]

6k

[@NewEraComms]

What if you pull up on the chain and there is a lot of movement? Should you only push on it?

[@AddictedMotors]

Either way.

[@garydeandeery]

The chain will move around a lot like that if the engine is off it’s not under pressure so you can’t tell that way It’s amazing how much a chain will stretch if you put them together it’s hard to tell

[@matthewkonopka3012]

176k miles. not bad

[@marcusskyfall]

Good job.

[@donnelleeustache4549]

This is why some put ls1 motors in these...problem solve

[@sofyane4428]

Any Range Rover equipped with a BMW engine is a 🍋

[@AddictedMotors]

This is a jag motor.

[@masterq2.033]

@@AddictedMotors Ford derived Jag motor.

[@hawaiiyamat]

@@masterq2.033 wrong, jaguar designed for ford.

[@jarosvaldoromeu5715]

The bmws engines was before 2005 , land rover/jaguar makes its own engines, and ford doesn't own land rover since 2008

[@nicktozie6685]

Think new svr f pace will start getting Beemer v8s

[@hh7258]

SQUIRREL! 😂

[@justinsincoise6693]

Rod knock

[@Chewie374]

Sounds more like the supercharge coupler. That's how it sounds. Easy fix. Not rod knock.

[@TopboyP]

I just bought a 2010 LR4 with 140k miles for 5k. Beautiful truck runs very good but when you start it and sit in idle it has a little vibration. I assumed the timing chain wasn’t done but was hoping it would hold for a year or two but I think I have to address it right away (gulp) little nervous on how much this will cost me and if it’s in the 2-3k range then I think I might had made out for a total of 8k but that’s wishful thinking 🤞 Any idea what the replacement would cost in todays cost?

[@AddictedMotors]

4-6k once your in there.

[@TopboyP]

@@AddictedMotors thank you sir

[@TopboyP]

@@AddictedMotors do you think I am a total idiot for buying one at 5k for 2010, great condition beside this inevitable fix or might it be worth it for 5k 140,000 miles

[@AddictedMotors]

@@TopboyP your forgetting that once the motor is addressed other rover wear items will also need doing.

[@TopboyP]

@@AddictedMotors aww man not what I wanted to hear but I appreciate your honesty my friend, thank you. I think I’ll go find a bridge to jump off now