More LR4 Timing Chain Failures - The Complete Chain Replacement On The Free Land Rover

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Lost Cause Ranch

Lost Cause Ranch

Күн бұрын

Today the long awaited 5.0 V8 timing chain replacement on Merlin, the free LR4. Timing chain rattle, restricted performance and timing fault codes sidelined this Land Rover and nearly sent it to the scrap yard.
Feel Free to skip around in the video (It's a long one I know, but wanted to keep the repair in one video to make it easier for anyone to reference in the future).
The previous owner was a viewer and reached out to see if we wanted to save Merlin, so we made the trip down to Tennessee with another LR4 and drug it home (Quite the adventure in itself).
The LR4 towing trip video: • Land Rover Rescue! Can...
This video is a touch more in depth than our previous videos on the LR4 timing problems. Those can be seen here:
• LR4 Timing Chain Probl...
• Timing Chain Day | Get...
This isn't meant as a complete guide, but gives you a great idea on the process and what is involved in replacing the chains on the early teens Land Rovers.
www.TheLostCauseRanch.com for Rover shirts and hats.
The good news is they updated the chain guides to prevent the wear problem, so this LR4 should be good for many years on that front.
#landrover
00:00 Intro
02:50 Special Tools
04:52 Tear Down
10:00 Fuel Injector Removal
14:03 First Look at the Timing Chain
20:42 Removing the Old Chains
23:41 The Fix
26:27 Installing the New Chains
40:16 Will It Start?

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@kitbeardstone
@kitbeardstone 5 ай бұрын
been waiting on this. ❤
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
I appreciate the opportunity, has created some more fun in my life. I’m happy to see your Merlin back in action! It’s a touch long but I wanted to keep the complete repair all in one video to make it easier to reference for people in the future. Just nice to give an idea of what goes into the job.
@AddictedMotors
@AddictedMotors 5 ай бұрын
Love me some chains… jealous of your ambition to keep the LR4s going. The lords work.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
I love me some LR4s. One of them should be reliable enough to make a RVA Rovers and Coffee.
@erichackney7301
@erichackney7301 4 ай бұрын
I was one of many who requested this video. I have 2012 Rover Sport and after viewing this video - you have lit the spark to accomplish this task. I truly gain so much on what and what not today 😂. Keep the videos coming and know that you are an inspiration…..to all who view!!
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 3 ай бұрын
I’m very happy to hear that, the exact reason why I like sharing this stuff. I’ve been fortunate enough to be around of ton of these and other various things so I like giving others some perspective of what certain things require. I hope it all goes great on your repair!
@douggriffith8435
@douggriffith8435 5 ай бұрын
If I only had half your knowledge I would be happy. Thanks for the taking us along on this adventure
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
Appreciate you following along as always, it's just a little knowledge gained from years of not being afraid of (or too stupid to be worried about) messing something up. Haha. But no, really I am fortunate to have the right people around me over the years along with a pile of cars to learn on to be able to stumble through some of these jobs.
@MarcinL-mc5fz
@MarcinL-mc5fz 21 күн бұрын
Thank you for your help. Great instructions! Greetings from Poland :)
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 12 күн бұрын
No worries, happy to help.
@Jabullz
@Jabullz 2 ай бұрын
Great tear down. Only thing I'd suggest is, while I understand it wasn't a vehicle you were gonna keep, talk with the owner or buyer on the oil. Tech manual says 5-20 but I run and have ran mine at 5-30 for years now. The reason being as I heard from many German/UK friends was the tech sheet (for the engine) was written that way was for emissions reasons in the EU. The 3L diesel I've heard many using 5-40 even. God bless the usa 😅
@williamconrad5055
@williamconrad5055 3 ай бұрын
You did a great job with this video! Great explanation for tools needed! You're quite the entertaining dude! Keep doing what you do, I love the videos!
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 3 ай бұрын
Hey I appreciate that! Try to have a little fun with it and give everyone a little idea of what to expect.
@dawinksta
@dawinksta 11 күн бұрын
Thank you, I have one with 127k mikes in mint condition, some day I will perform this job!
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 10 күн бұрын
Nice! Hopefully they just last for you and you don’t have to do them anytime soon.
@fitzventure
@fitzventure 5 ай бұрын
Had no intention of watching this entire video. Watched it all. Also, in Scottsdale, AZ, you can't drive 1 mile without seeing a new Defender.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
It was quite a bit longer than I like to make a video, but man I didn’t want to split it up or do the job a disservice by chopping too much out. I appreciate you sticking through it haha. I think we have 5ish in our town (100k metro area). Just not Land Rover Country here. I’d like to add a 2 door to replace the LR4 daily duties, so we would increase the percentage of them here tremendously with that haha.
@macalvarezLA
@macalvarezLA Ай бұрын
I just came home to CA from Scottsdale and it was nice to see more rovers in the area.
@markbielawski
@markbielawski 5 ай бұрын
OMG. I've been wondering if I would be able to tackle this job, but now I'm not so sure. It sure looks intimidating. Nice to have a Joe around who can handle it. Thanks for the video, and Happy New Year to you! 😃🥳🎉🥂
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
It’s doable, just tight in spots and in need of patience in others. With the tools and some attention to detail it’s not terrible to get the timing together correctly. I was just hoping to give an idea of how much of a job it is, even if you don’t e plan on doing it yourself you can have a touch better understanding of the process. Happy New Years! Always glad to chat with you. Makes life a little more fun.
@BeagleFerretTime
@BeagleFerretTime 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this in so much detail! I've been itching for a new project after ls swapping the D2, which your videos helped make possible.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
Glad to help, I was hoping to give an idea of what kind of undertaking it is. It’s doable with a little mechanical skill and some patience.
@any0n378
@any0n378 5 ай бұрын
Well done to you sir! I must say, these timing chain videos sure make me appreciate the LR3.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
The reliability of the LR3 4.4 is quite nice compared to these. But man the extra power in the LR4 is nice, so that makes them both great in my book haha.
@sstoess1
@sstoess1 3 ай бұрын
Excellent. Entertaining AND informative. Thanks for the effort Joe!
@jaykooter
@jaykooter 5 ай бұрын
this is an amazing resource for the LR community, thank you Joe!
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
I really appreciate that. I very much enjoy these things and it is fun to make the videos. Thanks for following along as always!
@MiguelCisneros81
@MiguelCisneros81 2 ай бұрын
Joe, just checking your channel and oh man, I’m so glad I found it! I own a 14 LR4 and love it (so far). I wish I had your knowledge on these vehicles. Keep posting awesome content! Thanks!
@user-eq6vv7lg3o
@user-eq6vv7lg3o 5 ай бұрын
Awesome video. Further reinforces my plan to never do the chains myself.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
Haha. That is kind of what I was thinking with the video. It is either going to give someone some confidence to do it or confirm they don’t want to do it.
@wabbatech
@wabbatech 5 ай бұрын
Very impressive workmanship indeed.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
Appreciate that! It's always fun digging into these things (Even if they are stubborn sometimes).
@zeroparity
@zeroparity 2 ай бұрын
Thank Joe! This is the first time I've come across your channel. This is easily the most informative video I've seen in relation to this engine. Excellent! The Timing chain is, I think, beyond my comfort level; I would love a video on how to remove the supercharger on Model Year 2014/15/16 LR4s, though.
@joshuaweaver9838
@joshuaweaver9838 2 ай бұрын
Well, you addressed the timing, but not the biggest issue I see with these engines. I pull these and do a complete tear down to remove the pieces of oil filter that plug up the oil passages and pickup tube, and also check for bearing damage. Next time your in one of those do yourself a favor and pull the 2 oil passage plugs and remove the oil filter housing. If you find debris there then there's 2x as much in the rear and the pickup tube is likely seriously restricted. The only way to properly address this is to pull the engine.
@wehtjns
@wehtjns 3 ай бұрын
Strong work sir. Thank you for sharing
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 3 ай бұрын
Appreciate that, happy to do so!
@johnsimpson6676
@johnsimpson6676 5 ай бұрын
Great start to 2024, didn’t understand most of what you did but great watching.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
Well I appreciate the commitment either way haha. But no, always enjoy you following along and Happy New year, hope all is well.
@johnsimpson6676
@johnsimpson6676 5 ай бұрын
Happy new year to you too, always surprised you don’t have any parts left over when you’ve finished! 😂
@realguy268
@realguy268 5 ай бұрын
This is the kind of content I want to see. Thanks for the insight
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
Glad to hear that! A little longer but I didn’t want to split up the job into a few videos.
@free2chasehappy
@free2chasehappy 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely amazing video! Great cause too! Keep up the good work sir!
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 4 ай бұрын
Appreciate that!
@nihallee
@nihallee 5 ай бұрын
Very nice and informative, thanks!
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
Appreciate that! Thanks for tagging along in all the Rover madness.
@MegaSkypes
@MegaSkypes 5 ай бұрын
Well done that is very impressive how you did all that now I’ve got to get mine done!!
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
Maybe I can fly out and lend a hand haha.
@MegaSkypes
@MegaSkypes 5 ай бұрын
@@LostCauseRanch don’t worry I will pay your airfare just bring the tools and I’ll do you a holiday as well given the prices I’ve been quoted!!
@roberttorres3809
@roberttorres3809 5 ай бұрын
Well Done ! Thank you for the video!
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
Appreciate that, fun to share these things.
@carlthetruthwilliams9447
@carlthetruthwilliams9447 3 ай бұрын
What a fantastic video. 2nd time watching it. Super enjoyable, clear and well done and with no gloves...Manly.😁
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 3 ай бұрын
Haha, I just can’t get around to liking rubber gloves. But I also don’t like dirty hands. So it’s such a dilemma.
@scottsnyder4575
@scottsnyder4575 5 ай бұрын
I have replaced Turbo, Cams and lifters on a TDI and have done timing, heads etc on Mitsubishi SUVs and Toyota. Tempted to get one of these cheap and tackle it.
@ba-raagebargaragegrill3334
@ba-raagebargaragegrill3334 2 ай бұрын
Thanks very much for this i just got a jaguar with the same problem this video will definitely work
@pgtips6143
@pgtips6143 5 ай бұрын
Wow what a job, pleased to see that it all went to plan. That last injector was a pain in the ass, good job it decided to hold together enough for you to get it all extracted. Love the work trays, perfect to have them in Land Rover Green 😂 Awesome job as always. Have a fantastic New Year, looking forward to you getting back onto the LS Defender. 😎👍
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
Yes, it’s always the one in the back corner haha. But could have been worse like you said. Just need to finish the insulation up this week then back on the stuff that matters haha. Happy Mew Year! Always good chatting back and forth.
@pgtips6143
@pgtips6143 5 ай бұрын
@@LostCauseRanch Likewise. Forgot to ask, did Farther Christmas bring you anything nice for the workshop? Have an amazing 2024 🍾🥳👍
@vido4x4
@vido4x4 5 ай бұрын
In the process of restoring a 1966 Series 2a. After watching this video, makes me wish my LR4 had the simplicity of Series Land Rovers. Cheers and Happy New Year! Really like your videos!
@nycinkmaster
@nycinkmaster 2 ай бұрын
when I hit 170k miles , I'll bring mine to you , great job!
@hansvanleersum8309
@hansvanleersum8309 5 ай бұрын
Top video,thanks Happy New year! Hvl.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
Appreciate you following along in the fun! Happy New Years as well!
@nature10879
@nature10879 5 ай бұрын
wow such an amazing job done there. Love landrovers especially LR4s. Those are tough especially the v8s with HD Package, very solid vehicles. They can tow too, comfortable and attainable. Besides the timing chain and air ride, all other things seem easy maintenance items
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
Very much agree with you. My daily 2010 is a HD package and I love the thing. It did just fine towing this LR4 back 750 miles. Once the timing chain is sorted they don’t seem to have anything overly out of the norm happen to them considering the complexity of some of it.
@nature10879
@nature10879 Ай бұрын
@@LostCauseRanch Was just wondering if the owners ever mentioned the oil change intervals they did on that LR4, 180k seems a lot before that failure as most average 100k or less.
@jonarnejorgensen1179
@jonarnejorgensen1179 5 ай бұрын
Good job. :) It is very interesting to see jobs like this.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
Glad to hear, it is fun putting this kind of stuff out there for people to see what is involved.
@jstokvis
@jstokvis 5 ай бұрын
Excellent HAPPY NEW YEAR.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
Happy New Year to you as well. Always appreciate you tagging along for all the fun.
@nickaskarov4800
@nickaskarov4800 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video
@Bosch1300
@Bosch1300 5 ай бұрын
am I the last person to still be using all air tools instead of battery. Great video as always.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
I was with you for a while too. But the electric stuff is just convenient and quiet. The newer stuff is quite good now, even my cheap harbor freight stuff.
@Bosch1300
@Bosch1300 5 ай бұрын
This must be one of those moments where I realize I'm getting old LOL
@4WDG
@4WDG 28 күн бұрын
How brilliant are you bro! Wow
@roverdogs_keithwhelchel
@roverdogs_keithwhelchel 5 ай бұрын
Wow I do not mind doing the work and all. But needing all them special tools sucks. So ways hard on buying one with timing chain issues. But wow what a difference in how it sounds. Great job and great video.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, the special tools make a one off job a little less stomachable. They are a very satisfying job though because like you mentioned the massive sound difference. Makes it feel like you actually did something haha.
@NewBeRVer
@NewBeRVer 5 ай бұрын
Ok, I’ll give ya a thumps up on this video. Happy New Year!
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
Appreciate that, Happy New Year as well! Thanks for following along, makes playing with these things even more fun.
@alexgoldstein7997
@alexgoldstein7997 4 ай бұрын
Doing a 3.0 SC right now....tons of fun.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 4 ай бұрын
How’s it going for you?
@fredbrackely
@fredbrackely 5 ай бұрын
Nice Job mate. 5W-40 and 6K mile oil change interval - but just to be sure Blackstone test the oil. No pre-lube of the chains upon install? It took me 3 days to get the injectors out, had to soak the sh!t out of them, and then I had multiple the cam cover bolts shear-off. - had to drill and tap the mothers. Biggest PITA job I've ever done.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
I haven’t explored switching to 5w40 on these but was curious about it. Been thinking about trying it on my driver one to see. So that is working out for you? I just oil canned the chain before closing it up and let it crank a fair amount before the first actual startup. But no I didn’t soak it ( or bake it like some people). Broken bolts are no fun and like I said, the injectors coming out is really what makes or breaks these jobs for me. They always come out, just not enjoyably sometimes. Not near as bad as a customers BMW that had broken windshield cowling that lead to water leaking onto one direct injector and resulted in having to pull the cylinder head to remedy that one.
@graham-martin5847
@graham-martin5847 5 ай бұрын
i use oven cleaner down the sides of the injectors to get em out works a treat not sure if you have mr muscle over there but its good
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
That’s a good tip. I’ll have to try that. I don’t recall seeing Mr. Muscle but I’m sure I can come up with something similar. Anything to help that situation.
@Mamster3
@Mamster3 Ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make these detailed videos and you have inspired me to get an LR4. I’m in the process of getting a 2013 and wanted to know from your experience, does the 2013 come with the updated chain components? Thank you!
@gregbailey9544
@gregbailey9544 5 ай бұрын
When and where will the LR4 be posted for sale? I would love to have this one be my first Rover!!
@gregbailey9544
@gregbailey9544 4 ай бұрын
Any idea on availability of the LR4?
@Land_Raver
@Land_Raver 5 ай бұрын
Ready to buy an LR4 now.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
If you can handle a P38 you can handle a LR4 haha. My percentage of running LR4's is 100% to 0% on P38's.
@Land_Raver
@Land_Raver 5 ай бұрын
​@LostCauseRanch I can definitely sort out a problem on a P38 in a hurry. Been debating on a newer Rover but the decision is difficult.
@ryanorr5755
@ryanorr5755 5 ай бұрын
awesome video, curious if the rear cross over coolant line has been replaced on that aj133
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
It's hard to say, it looks like it may have been at some point in its life. If I had the manifold off to do the other one I would have replaced that as well. But being the front pipe was replaced for sure I'll let sleeping dogs lie for now being nothing is leaking.
@Matt-rq6wz
@Matt-rq6wz 2 ай бұрын
If there is a way to check the current health of our chains without complete disassembly of the front end that would be incredibly useful. For example, a combination of looking through the oil cap, audio of a healthy 3.0 or 5.0 and one that is in need of an overhaul, ideally a borescope inspection would all make for an excellent video as there are a lot of us LR4 owners with perpetual anxiety about our chains health ha
@BrakeTheBank
@BrakeTheBank 5 ай бұрын
I have a 2012 Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged. I have to do the timing chains. I assume it will be a pretty similar process other than having to remove the supercharger? Any tips?
@aretools
@aretools Ай бұрын
I’m at 270k. And need to replace the timining chain. I have a shop and the room to do it just wondering how much time it would take. And if the specialty tools are needed over regular pullers…
@maxchobotov9501
@maxchobotov9501 2 ай бұрын
Hey LR Bro! 🙌 Thanks for a great video! Absolutely amazing 🤘 I own 2012 LR4 with same V8 5.0 in perfect condition with 65.000 miles o’clock and absolutely love this vehicle. I’m using it for overlanding mostly in the mountains during the summertime. Despite the low mileage I have already replaced timing chain for the new type. Now I clearly see what a pain in the ass it is to replace it and why did I have to pay that much. Appreciated! Since I’m passioned a lot with this car and want to keep it as long as I can, I would love to know your personal opinion regarding the oil specifications. I’m currently using 5W20 by COMMA with Ford endorsement WSS-M2C925-A as it was recommended by LR dealer. As far as I know this V8 is made by Ford (pls correct me if I’m wrong). Reply from LR global support: Please find the requested information below. There are two different engine oils that needs to look for. Using these JLR approval specifications(WSS-M2C925-A or STJLR.51.5122). I’m doing the oil change every 6K miles. Would you recommend to switch to some other oil specifications in order to make this engine’s life longer or you are absolutely fine to go with dealer recommendations of SAE 5W20 WSS.M2C925-A or SAE OW20 STJLR 51.5122?
@faisalibrahim2519
@faisalibrahim2519 2 ай бұрын
Can you elobrate on turning the engine twice and checking the time chains. I have a problem figuring out when it is turned twice. Also can you please share the torque specification for the timing chain and valve covers. And possibly a link to tools used. Thank you.
@baldocandia6062
@baldocandia6062 4 ай бұрын
How much torque on the cam gear tool to torque the bolts down?
@azabujubangaijin6607
@azabujubangaijin6607 5 ай бұрын
Great video! I am curious if and when this issue will hit my 2013 LR4. I read something that later 2013s and beyond are less likely to experience this issue, but this could be just wishful thinking.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
2013 is far less likely to have a premature failure. Yours should have the steel button. My suggestion is to just shorten to a 5-7000 mile oil change. That seems to help a ton especially since f you already have the updated stuff.
@azabujubangaijin6607
@azabujubangaijin6607 5 ай бұрын
@@LostCauseRanch Agree, been very proactive with the oil changes. Honestly, better to spend a little more up front to get the most out of it. Although, it does keep me busy with other issues. Just replaced the battery as it was having trouble starting, now same issue appeared this weekend. Heard the ground cable is a common issue. Looking for a diagram to tackle it today as a way to kick off the new year. Thanks again for your videos/comments!
@carlthetruthwilliams9447
@carlthetruthwilliams9447 4 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this... Though yours is a 2011 and mine is a 2012, I wonder if they ungraded my years guides? Some say the latter year of the 2012 builds were. Thank you for this vid...
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 4 ай бұрын
I’ve heard the same that some late 12’s got them, but I’ve never been able to confirm an actual build date that they switched over. Hopefully you are in the clear! But either way just keep up on the oil services and treat it right and they can do decent.
@thatflywelshguy9662
@thatflywelshguy9662 4 ай бұрын
would have loved a full price breakdown for parts and where you purchase them from
@michaelsong697
@michaelsong697 Ай бұрын
Hello! I believe my 93k 2012 Ranger Rover Sport needs this now. It's starting to knock when the engine is hot, but not all the time. I'm not sure if I need to change the camshaft phasers (all 4) when doing this job? Is this necessary? What would you quote for a job like this?
@rippinmachines
@rippinmachines 7 күн бұрын
What are your thoughts on checking chain tension through oil filler and how tight should it be? Check warm or cold? Also, how many hours does it take to replace chains/guides/tensioners by an experienced shop?
@abermudez3352
@abermudez3352 3 ай бұрын
Impressive work. I have a 2013 LR4 HSE and the LR Shop near me advised I need this exact repair. How much would you say this job runs parts & labor?
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 3 ай бұрын
Appreciate that. Over the years I have seen quotes in the range of $4000-10000 for them from various places. With our repair shop we typically landed in the $5-6000 range. That was including spark plugs, water pump, coolant pipes and depending on other things that needed attention.
@christophernavarrete3474
@christophernavarrete3474 2 ай бұрын
Once these chains are changed, do they typically give out again? I’m looking at picking up a 2012 LR4 with 175k miles on it.
@rossbarnard1579
@rossbarnard1579 3 ай бұрын
Wanted to ask where you bought the timing chain kit? Is there anyone you’d recommend?
@zroverz
@zroverz 4 ай бұрын
Do you know where to get a repair manual for an LR4, possibly a free version? I’m going to need to do this repair soon.
@faisalibrahim2519
@faisalibrahim2519 2 ай бұрын
Also. What type of rtv sealant do you use?
@BuyongoPhiri
@BuyongoPhiri 5 ай бұрын
Nice.
@user-bd7xr7ug2h
@user-bd7xr7ug2h Ай бұрын
Could you please tell me. When replacing the timing chain. If I was able to insert a special tool behind the crankshaft speed sensor. Also inserted a special tool in place of the starter. The key itself on the crankshaft pulley is at 6 o'clock. But the old timing chain itself does not match with the marks. What I need to do. Is it necessary to adhere to the chain to match the marks?
@davelr3x474
@davelr3x474 2 ай бұрын
Have you done a 5L with a supercharger?
@ghostofthedeep
@ghostofthedeep 25 күн бұрын
I want to do this job and unfortunately my lower timing chain failed as well. Trying to get the engine out with body on can't find any resources that really explain how to do it well.
@brianhough9205
@brianhough9205 3 ай бұрын
Well done sir. I'm just starting to educate myself on these vehicles. Another website says this defect is in 5.0 v8 from 2010-16, however you said this was fixed in 2013? Is the 4.4 v8 from 2005-09 the way to go for a coward?
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 3 ай бұрын
It’s updated in 2013, so less prevalent. But we have replaced them in the 2016 3.0 supercharged v6 as well. What I’ve noticed over the years is the ones that did shorter 5-7000 mile oil changes have faired much better throughout the whole year range. The 4.4 is a solid engine, we had one customer with 300k miles without having to do anything inside the engine. But the power of the 5.0 is very nice, especially with an oversized tire.
@mikesnedeger8694
@mikesnedeger8694 4 ай бұрын
Where did you get all the special tools for that? Looking at tackling one as I’ve found a pretty clean one for cheap with the same issues.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 4 ай бұрын
I can’t remember exactly where we got this set as we’ve had it for a while and have order dozens of different timing tool setups. It probably came from Atlantic British, but we did get some of the different sets off eBay as well.
@brandonedwards7166
@brandonedwards7166 12 күн бұрын
I am working on the V6 lr4. Just replaced the chains and after applying tension they are not signed with the timing mark on the guides. It is half a link off. After starting it up I get cam correlation codes for all 4 cams. Any idea why it's not lining up?
@Bobby82568
@Bobby82568 5 ай бұрын
You can tell they kept up with the oil changes, that engine looks very clean for the mileage it has.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
I agree, very nice inside. Definitely contributed to getting the early guides to last that many miles.
@slshawestimator4485
@slshawestimator4485 3 ай бұрын
After installing the chain and the slack adjusters, some manual say to pry on the shoe until you hear the slack adjuster click. Should I do that? I would hate to damage anything.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 3 ай бұрын
I have never personally done that. But I also pull the fuel pump fuse and let it crank and get a good amount of oil pressure being letting it fire up and run.
@TheDustinlangston
@TheDustinlangston 2 ай бұрын
I’m at 230,000 miles on my 2010 LR4 with the stock chains and tensioner. It’s starting to make a ticking noise until it warms up. May be time for this.
@trevino37
@trevino37 2 ай бұрын
Do you think an LR4 is worth it with a timing chain job requirement down the line, for none mechanics? I'm still undecided, while holding on to my 2002 P38?
@Rlanez21
@Rlanez21 3 ай бұрын
Would there be any chance you would change my timing chain on a 2015 Range Rover Sport 3.0L Super Charged HSE I have the timing chain kit already from Land Rover?
@guidogutierrez3462
@guidogutierrez3462 20 күн бұрын
Why you don*t give the torque set for cam.sprokets bolts and the tension torque in the tool when thinging the bolts ? Will be helpfull
@baldocandia6062
@baldocandia6062 4 ай бұрын
Quick question when ordering a new crank bolt does it matter if its left or right handed thread? I cant find any specification on the replacement ones.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 3 ай бұрын
Sorry I missed this earlier. It does matter. You can identify yours by the markings on the bolt head. But on the LR4s I have only ever ran across is the 12.9 left hand thread.
@ErikHaywood
@ErikHaywood 2 ай бұрын
What Is The Average Cost To Have This Done? Also, I Have A 2010 LR4, And I'm Hearing My Engine. It Almost Sounds Like A Diesel Engine. Don't Have The Indicator Lights On, But I'm Sure It's A Matter Of Time. Where Can I Go To Have This Work Done?
@Cold_Trails
@Cold_Trails 2 ай бұрын
How much is your price to replace the timing chains on a 2011 Range Rover?
@cumminsturbo98
@cumminsturbo98 3 ай бұрын
Can you please show in detail how your setup was removing the crank pulley with your bolts? I don’t want to have to remove the radiator as well
@yicendu6482
@yicendu6482 2 ай бұрын
Did you figure it out? I’m also stuck here
@cumminsturbo98
@cumminsturbo98 2 ай бұрын
@@yicendu6482 yes I had to remove the fan assembly and play around moving the radiator to sneak the bolt in
@yicendu6482
@yicendu6482 2 ай бұрын
@@cumminsturbo98 do you mean moving it without removing and disconnecting all those hoses? Remove bolts that secure the radiator? Thanks!
@cumminsturbo98
@cumminsturbo98 2 ай бұрын
@@yicendu6482yeah I had to disconnect some of the radiator hoses and remove the radiator support on the top but left the power steering and ac lines connected
@cumminsturbo98
@cumminsturbo98 29 күн бұрын
@@yicendu6482yes had to tilt the radiator at angle to slide the bolt in
@larr1994
@larr1994 3 ай бұрын
Wasn’t the timing chain issue resolved with the V6 models or less of an issue?
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 3 ай бұрын
Vastly improved on the V6. But we still have repaired those as well. But it’s not necessarily something I would freak out worrying about. For a note, on the ones that we did replace on the updated tensioners and rails, all of them were using the factory 15,000 mile oil change schedule.
@user-il9xl2oe4t
@user-il9xl2oe4t 3 ай бұрын
Could you tell us where you purchased your parts?
@skiffman10
@skiffman10 3 ай бұрын
Yes. I had the same question. In a bind trying to find a kit and where to buy it.
@raymondclark1785
@raymondclark1785 Ай бұрын
Toyota fans like to bash the LR timing chain issues BUT Toyota used to also. On theirs the chain tensioner didn't do its job and the chain jumped
@dlee6985
@dlee6985 3 ай бұрын
You make this look a lot less intimidating than other videos. Still intimidating, but not as bad. If I had the time, I’d probably attempt it but alas, I think I’m just going to get rid of my sport and take the loss. A shame, as it was great to drive.
@dbest282
@dbest282 3 ай бұрын
Sell it to me how much?
@MJ-qe5lg
@MJ-qe5lg 3 ай бұрын
Bro! When can I borrow those injector remove and timing tools? Ugh the price on those....
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 3 ай бұрын
Isn’t it crazy what some of that stuff can cost? It makes it tough to swallow for one job.
@MJ-qe5lg
@MJ-qe5lg 3 ай бұрын
Bro, I think I am living vicariously through your videos. I may video my dumb ass doing the same timing job and tag you as being the instructor. It's amazing how little KZbin has on LR4s
@vezirhoda
@vezirhoda 3 ай бұрын
Would the engine sound different if the chain is lose ??
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 3 ай бұрын
Yes, typically you’ll start hearing a short rattle on startup first but if it gets bad enough it will have a consistent rattle. But most of the time it will also have a timing code in the ecm at that point as well.
@esseyhaben
@esseyhaben 20 күн бұрын
How much cost me if I want to change it?
@baldocandia6062
@baldocandia6062 3 ай бұрын
How don you turn the engine clockwise if the bolt loosens that way??
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 3 ай бұрын
This one was regular thread. On these engine there is potential of either normal or reverse thread on the crank bolt.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 3 ай бұрын
I apologize, I was backwards on that response. It is a left hand thread on this one, was mistaking a different one when I replied. But the bolt is on tight enough when it is torqued down that without the crankshaft locked you can spin the engine either way without loosening the bolt. It requires quite a bit of force to loosen it.
@ter11112343
@ter11112343 2 ай бұрын
Who can do this job (on a Jaguar XK 2011 - same engine) in or near Switzerland?
@chadriddle4357
@chadriddle4357 5 ай бұрын
Is that a fomco number on the tensioner?
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
Yep, under Ford ownership while the AJ engine was developed.
@chadriddle4357
@chadriddle4357 5 ай бұрын
@@LostCauseRanch nice trivia to know.
@FlawedOffroad
@FlawedOffroad 5 ай бұрын
Sasha snoring or was that a distant jake brake😂
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 5 ай бұрын
Could have been either. But more than likely Sasha haha, she’s damn near in hibernation this time of year.
@raimzmoto
@raimzmoto 5 ай бұрын
So youre selling it?? Im interested!
@jasonpatzke
@jasonpatzke 4 ай бұрын
The removal tool for the dampener works with the radiator in place if you cut about 1" off the threaded rod and re-cut the end with a cut off disk. Takes about 5 minutes to modify the tool. I believe it is impossible to pull the radiator without the condenser and I was not going down that road. Just did this job this weekend.
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 4 ай бұрын
I thought about cutting it down, good to know that worked out, nice job. Yes, condenser comes out with the radiator. It wasn’t a big deal when we had the repair shop as we had an a/c machine and would suck the Freon down. But sold that machine with the shop. So I agree with you on not opening the a/c system if possible. How did the job go for you?
@KenM-RRS
@KenM-RRS 3 ай бұрын
Which end did you cut off? The left hand thread end that threads into the crank or the smaller right hand thread that the puller threads onto? Please let me know. Thanks
@jasonpatzke
@jasonpatzke 3 ай бұрын
Job went great! Glad I made the modification and have been sharing this with others so that people know it’s an option when you don’t have access to the tools to work on the A/C.
@jasonpatzke
@jasonpatzke 3 ай бұрын
I cut off about 7/8” from the smaller right hand thread end. Had to reshape the end similar to how it was so I could still get an adjustable wrench on it.
@autonomousindividual7780
@autonomousindividual7780 5 ай бұрын
Any rough estimate what an independent shop would charge and whats the parts expense. Appreciate it. Sure seem like a solid truck otherwise. In dick uh tiv
@engineer12v
@engineer12v 3 ай бұрын
How much will yoi be selling this for?
@user-sl5pc5bl5f
@user-sl5pc5bl5f 3 ай бұрын
Just called LR..they said $19k to replace!!!!! Can you do my sons car🙏🙏🙏we live in Va😂
@LostCauseRanch
@LostCauseRanch 3 ай бұрын
Ouch, for just the timing chain replacement? That’s the highest I have heard.
@raymondclark1785
@raymondclark1785 Ай бұрын
Just think if LR had used the Jag V-12 :(
@JayGuttie
@JayGuttie 3 ай бұрын
Are these SUV’s even reliable? Seem like a lot of work 😅
@borismospan8214
@borismospan8214 2 ай бұрын
what no torque specs on the covers?, your bead is too thick
@davidclarke9767
@davidclarke9767 5 ай бұрын
What a load of crap that's fitted to modern engines it takes hours removing all the plastic rubbish what with hoses sensors etc ,just to change timing chains. Modern engines what have we gained a few more MPG slightly faster acceleration sometimes poorer reliability, very expensive to repair. The good old days simple distributer, coil. Spark plugs and leads, not filled with loads of plastic, sensors everywhere, difficult to reach parts , with some models it's engine out.
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