How to Choose your Legs - Breakdown with Numbers - Armored Core 6 (AC6)

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Chrightt

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@Chrightt
@Chrightt 11 ай бұрын
NOTE: Bipedal: Tian-Qiang actually got a buff to AP that wasn't mentioned in the patch notes. It now has 5.3k AP which means that it has even higher defensive score/cost than the dessert! Also, blunder on my part. For the QB reload time of tank legs, they tend to be longer than stated because of the weight of tank legs themselves.
@SyntaxDaemon
@SyntaxDaemon 11 ай бұрын
I feel like with that accounted for, between their score, cost, load, jump, and relatively low weight, they're the best all-rounder heavy bipeds! Edit: Although, if the load isn't needed, the Dessert make a compelling case, as you say.
@agentoranj5858
@agentoranj5858 11 ай бұрын
​@@SyntaxDaemon The Dessert legs are a hard sell even with
@SyntaxDaemon
@SyntaxDaemon 11 ай бұрын
@@agentoranj5858 Yeah I don't personally see myself using the Dessert unless for fashion.
@joshnoritake3167
@joshnoritake3167 7 ай бұрын
So basically, now tian is the go to legs for heavy biped
@maxireigl1919
@maxireigl1919 3 ай бұрын
Were the Lammergeier quad legs only added after this video, or did you leave them out for a reason? What's your opinion in them?
@LEOTomegane
@LEOTomegane 11 ай бұрын
"there are more bipeds than reverse joints, tetrapods, and tanks combined" which is a _CRIME,_ by the way!!
@richman6974
@richman6974 11 ай бұрын
Reverse joint legs are my absolute favorite, i just love the high jump
@Punishthefalse
@Punishthefalse 11 ай бұрын
They also kick very hard.
@Lunar137
@Lunar137 11 ай бұрын
Same here. I think my love of reverse joint legs comes from love of the Marauder/Marauder II mechs.
@tanklover385
@tanklover385 11 ай бұрын
" whos need to jump when you got this BULK!"
@easy8077
@easy8077 11 ай бұрын
I think even more amazing is how far you quick boost when you touch the ground. I was originally very confused with the jump distance stat. It's especially usefull if you use a booster that doesn't have too much quick boost duration to still cover long distances very quickly.
@ThePapino134
@ThePapino134 11 ай бұрын
sadly the reverse legs take longer to trigger the kick (lets be honest its a drop kick) so its easier to wiff than biped kicks
@NeightrixPrime
@NeightrixPrime 11 ай бұрын
I found myself using Spring Chicken a lot just to carry good weapons, and mostly relying on the jump for dodging.
@Warpded
@Warpded 11 ай бұрын
Same. Jumping all over the place while shooting missiles is very fun for me
@anthonyanderson9771
@anthonyanderson9771 11 ай бұрын
Idk if most people know that the jump is a free, spammable dodge. So helpful.
@colecarmichael5724
@colecarmichael5724 11 ай бұрын
@@anthonyanderson9771🤨📸
@LevantineR1
@LevantineR1 11 ай бұрын
@@anthonyanderson9771 Not only is it arguably the best dodge when considering how long your increased movement lasts(lol Balteus missiles), it's one of the strongest maneuvers you can do for purely offensive reasons. Went under the AC to avoid attacks while your battery charges? Jump and slash/punch/kick them in the face.
@bitcheslovecannons5073
@bitcheslovecannons5073 11 ай бұрын
Spring chicken is great for cheesing ibis, cuz you can jump to dodge a lot of her aoe, plus you can carry heavy ordinance to completely make a mockery of her.
@noBody-ue6cs
@noBody-ue6cs 11 ай бұрын
The legs are the soul. The pilot is stored in the groin
@miktmikleson4891
@miktmikleson4891 4 ай бұрын
Same!!
@StrangeAether
@StrangeAether 2 ай бұрын
That's why it's called a COCKpit
@JaggedJack1
@JaggedJack1 11 ай бұрын
For real though Chrightt you are my favorite AC6 content creator. Not just that, but any game you produce content for, you are always make the most informative and thorough videos of anyone.
@sphyrnazygaena2690
@sphyrnazygaena2690 11 ай бұрын
And for Elden Ring!! I call him the statistics wizard! Not a mere "number crunching" activity!
@ElecManEXE
@ElecManEXE 11 ай бұрын
AC games have always had a bias towards bipedal legs, but the numbers in this game are extra skewed. I was floored when I saw a parts list and saw only 2 quad legs. Hopefully we get some DLC that fleshes out the non-bipeds significantly.
@Darkja
@Darkja 11 ай бұрын
I agree, its ridiculous how limited everything but standart bipeds are, specially tetras. Deffinetly needs a light-weight model and a super-heavy too. Tanks need a lighter "floater" and reverse-joints could use a balance buff to the light one and maybe an alternate mid-weight.
@ElecManEXE
@ElecManEXE 11 ай бұрын
@@Darkja There's a lot they could do with various stats and unique aspects, honestly. How about a tetrapod with a high jump height to help get back into the air? How about a heavy tetrapod that doesn't get pushed back by weapons fire at all while hovering? Why not make tetrapod hover speed a stat and then you can make faster and slower ones, make the amount of energy used a stat and then you can have one that specializes in extremely low energy use but maybe slower speed, that would allow more of a focus on aerial boosting and not just flat hovering? Tanks already have all the stats from their built-in booster, play with that some more. Maybe one has super fast or super long quick boosts but slower unboosted movement, or one that has very low boost cost to allow quick directional changed. Maybe one has super long, super maneuverable drifts to better emphasize that facet of tank maneuvering. And yeah, we need more varieties of "hover tank", particularly some that can move faster would be super fun if tank legs are going to be the stand-in replacement for the hover legs of old. How about a reverse leg that jumps higher when you ground boost. How about one that can wall jump? How about one with claws that it can use to stop on a dime, making it super twitchy and swift? Or, ya know, do none of that and just do basic weight, defense, and aesthetic differences. I wouldn't hate that either, TBH. It wouldn't be as interesting, but it would still allow more tweaking within those special classes and more different aesthetics, which is always welcome.
@El_Fonz0
@El_Fonz0 11 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠it’s funny you mention the quad things, because hovering energy cost and hover speed are actually technically able to be uniquely set per leg, as well as hover QB speed
@Aereto
@Aereto 11 ай бұрын
​@@Darkja Me who used hovers for mobility and above water combat in past AC gsmes
@Darkja
@Darkja 11 ай бұрын
@@ElecManEXE I agree, there is so much potential, legs now more than ever determine a complete diferent playstyle, just as much if not more than weight, yet FROM seems hellbent in not exploring and expanding that concept, concept that THEY keep talking about, they say that they want variety and exploration yet 3 complete playstyles out of 4 are grossly underused. Its like they actively hate the entire concept of non-biped legs. And many PvPers dont help this either, they are also really biased against anything non-biped, oh, they pay lip service to wanting "variety", but only as long as its just the variety they approve of and doesnt defy the status-quo.
@gold664
@gold664 11 ай бұрын
You can take my Kasuars from my cold, dead, hands
@dragnus12
@dragnus12 2 ай бұрын
Kasuar/Nachtreiher body. Hu-ben gatling BU-TT/A (butter) sword Dual 6-shot missile launchers. This is my AC I used for the entirety of NG+, liberator of rubicon. It was the first one I built towards on my first run, but I experimented more until I finally ran up against Ayre. Once I hit her, I had to go back to the above to work her down. RJ jumping too good for dodging boss BS.
@Katiedid2040
@Katiedid2040 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, what really elevated my AC6 level from capable to really proficient was learning how to utilize kicks to the best of my ability. For my first playthrough and a half or so, I never used kicks or even rocket boosting really (didn't even bother with unlocking kicks until the second wave of OST boosters) and it was fine but I found the game to be pretty challenging. Then I unlocked kicks and accidentally did one, chunking my opponent's health. Never went back. It's amazing how much more damage you can milk if you kick at the end of an enemy's ACS downtime.
@windhelmguard5295
@windhelmguard5295 11 ай бұрын
boost kick is also an efficient mobility option for tank builds, since they don't stop at the end of the kick animation like the other leg types, you can chain boost kicks to cover long distances quickly without wasting much energy.
@dutchvanderlinde248
@dutchvanderlinde248 11 ай бұрын
But is it more effective against the ai than blasting them with both a charged shot from the coral variant of the plasma rifle followed by an earshot cannon round? (Or the other way around)
@windhelmguard5295
@windhelmguard5295 11 ай бұрын
@@dutchvanderlinde248 the kick is for when earshot is reloading.
@dutchvanderlinde248
@dutchvanderlinde248 11 ай бұрын
@@windhelmguard5295 Bring two.
@windhelmguard5295
@windhelmguard5295 11 ай бұрын
@@dutchvanderlinde248 i do. but they're both reloading.
@windhelmguard5295
@windhelmguard5295 11 ай бұрын
one thing worth mentioning is the physics of the boost kicks. because one issue i've found with bipeds, reverse joints and tetrapods is that where stops your forward momentum, which can be dangerous if you whiff. tank treads do not have this issue, as you'll just fly past your enemies, without stopping. this also turns the boost kick into an efficient mobility tool on tank builds.
@gengarisnotinsmash...
@gengarisnotinsmash... 11 ай бұрын
It is also worth noting that reverse joints almost have the opposite effect compared to tank legs: they pull back quite far after a kick. The recovery is still pretty scary, but I've missed important shots while trying to punish rjoint kicks because of that pullback.
@jeromeace1282
@jeromeace1282 11 ай бұрын
​@@gengarisnotinsmash... Huh, that's interesting. the reverse joints being like that is probably why I've been struggling so much to get the pilebunker to work then. Guess i'll have to figure out a legs/booster combo that makes more sense for it.
@cridus_
@cridus_ 11 ай бұрын
@@jeromeace1282 well, if you ACS-overload someone with a kick, you should be able to quickly QB to partially cut the recovery animation and load the pile bunker during the boost to hit once you reach the target. although, I haven't actually tested if you can cut short the kick recovery of reverse-joints by quick-boosting like with bipeds.
@Tigersight0
@Tigersight0 11 ай бұрын
@@cridus_Unfortunately, in my experience as a pile bunker enjoyer, boost kicks won't let you land the pile bunker. Its charge attack is only a hair shorter than ACS overload stun, so you have to start the attack FAST. I'm talking like, probably within a quarter second or so after they begin to stagger. When you boost kick them, it knocks them a good distance away from you. Even canceling out with a quick boost to close the distance, the two animations just take too long to complete. You can't get off a full pile bunker charge before the enemy can move again and instantly quick boost away from you.
@cridus_
@cridus_ 11 ай бұрын
@@Tigersight0 well, shit.
@sirpuffball6366
@sirpuffball6366 11 ай бұрын
15:07 this is actually wrong, the Tian Qiang legs have 5300 AP now, making them basically hands-down the most efficient heavyweight bipeds in the game
@Chrightt
@Chrightt 11 ай бұрын
Oh wow, I didn't see this cause their patch notes only mentioned attitude stability/jump distance >.> Let me add a note, thanks.
@jackandersen1262
@jackandersen1262 11 ай бұрын
Something I've found with the tank legs, is that usually ascent speed and EN consumption is so poor that you save energy by assault boosting at a high an angle and usually gain significantly more altitude doing so because of the speed.
@cridus_
@cridus_ 11 ай бұрын
I've seen someone suggest to keep spamming "kicks" to cover distance in the air quickly while even conserving energy XD
@JoshEastham
@JoshEastham 9 ай бұрын
I think tetrapods do this too
@Phos9
@Phos9 11 ай бұрын
I mentioned this on I believe your booster video but the altitude that reverse joint grounded quick boosts reach is inversely proportional to quick boost duration, meaning that if you’re running the fluegel or particularly the 12345, you can quick boost much more often.
@Chrightt
@Chrightt 11 ай бұрын
Yep, this is true. For Bipeds, QB duration increases time you're in jump while RJ reduces it. Granted, they're still too floaty on the RJs and don't go nearly as far even with higher QB duration.
@clutchedbyanangel
@clutchedbyanangel 11 ай бұрын
9:15 Digitigrade means standing on toes. "Reverse joint" legs are digitigrade. The "reversed" joint in question is actually the ankle, and not reversed at all. Nachtreiher is plantigrade, same as Bipedal legs. They just look weird.
@MrChoklad
@MrChoklad 9 ай бұрын
They have the knee put quite far back, which throws you off, but yeah if you look closely they are indeed just bipeds. Very cool design nevertheless
@dylandarnell3657
@dylandarnell3657 8 ай бұрын
@@MrChoklad I think the _bent shins_ do more to throw people off. The angle looks like it should be a joint, but isn't.
@LivingShdw
@LivingShdw 11 ай бұрын
I'm actually quite fond of the Kasuar. The reverse joint kick/boost interacts in an interesting way with boosters that have higher reload times but also longer jet duration. This can lead to you covering a lot of distance per boost and with the longer reload time, you can't really boost again until you hit the ground anyway. So, you get another grounded boost when it's ready again. The biggest difference between it an a biped leg (other than the obvious) is that you have to be more intentional with the Kasuar. For bipeds, you can constantly correct your position with quick reload speeds, but the kasuar lets you make much larger corrections.
@acaptainwithoutaship5192
@acaptainwithoutaship5192 11 ай бұрын
Shout out to my fellow Kasuar users! ^-^ Although I do use Nacht legs from time to time as they are pseudo-reverse joints. Great video, tempted to go Nacht legs fulltime
@syrusalder7795
@syrusalder7795 11 ай бұрын
If you plan on using a kick on a stunned enemy, get a few shots in first since the kick can extend the stagger duration by a small amount since they'll be stuck in a "oh shit i got kicked" animation for a sec or two afterwards. Great way to extend a punish combo if you need just a little more time to reload your big guns but the enemy will recover before they finish reloading.
@dumbduck6804
@dumbduck6804 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for making these, I really appreciate all the work you put into these videos, especially having pictures of the part in question.
@davidmalkowski7850
@davidmalkowski7850 11 ай бұрын
I find using Gridwalker with Kasuar really covers each other's weaknesses very well. Sure, you're not Natricher mobile with your quick boosts, but your huge jump height on top of the highest upward thrust/low midair cost means you can take to the air extremely quickly. I use them with a VE-20B/Ephemera core build that has Aurora/VP66LS guns :)
@Nivomandasrail
@Nivomandasrail 11 ай бұрын
THe biggest weakness of Kasuar legs is the low weight limit, and Gridwalker boosters definitely don't help with that. It seems like the only way to use Kasuar legs is to intentionally overburden yourself. Otherwise your build does pathetic damage AND dies in 2 hits. The vertical mobility is very rarely worth accepting those weaknesses when you could just use Mind Beta or Nachtreiher legs.
@davidmalkowski7850
@davidmalkowski7850 11 ай бұрын
​@@NivomandasrailSure, but when you're using VE-20B, the primary limiter to what weapons you can carry tends to be VE-20B and the low EN output before you run into weight issues. The only weapons that tend to buck this trend are bazookas, but there's no point in running them when the whole point of that generator is the maxed EN Firearm Spec, which offers +25% damage and -50% charge/reload time to any equipped energy firearm. With patch 1.03.1, Aurora is the first missile launcher to have that spec, but the rest are handheld weapons.
@cridus_
@cridus_ 11 ай бұрын
maybe it could be worth trying the hokushi too? but you'd be pretty much required to run light kinetic weapons (maybe plus a melee weapon).
@benjaminotalora363
@benjaminotalora363 11 ай бұрын
Lol I made a Kasuar leg build just for the challenge, I ended up with a high risk high reward close range build that's pretty fun to play. The trick is to think vertically, areal quick boosts don't have the weird hop to them, and with the right booster/generator combo you can usually get an areal quick boost mid hop Also, neat trick for the heavy tank treads, you can quick turn fairly fast while in assault boost! If you do this in a zigzag you can cover a surprising amount of ground if you have high energy capacity. Works with other legs as a way to charge at an enemy without getting absolutely wrecked by missiles or cannons, but it's even more useful with treads since they don't quick boost too well
@zekiel2533
@zekiel2533 11 ай бұрын
I didnt know the hal and basho werent worth it compared to the melander until now. I like the hal legs for the fashion and attitude stability tho. Good vid
@shayminthedoctor9663
@shayminthedoctor9663 11 ай бұрын
The Nachtreiher have been my favorite since the very beginning. I struggle a little with the low weight limit, but I've found the speed and evasive capabilities more than make up for it Great video! It's helped a lot with building some of my heavier ACs
@Madao_Aniki
@Madao_Aniki 11 ай бұрын
Well, just a personal opinion, but I want to frikin Object on Kasuar's bad rep in this vid. 1. Kasuar is one if not the best leg for a H&R or "Diver" build by having the lightest weight and highest Jump stat (both height and distance) and not everyone can keep track on a full jump of a kasuar leg with ease for aiming anything at close range so basically negates most of retaliation method. Easiest field example with kasuar and its build: Being a feather weight-Light weight build on 61k-65k range. With emphasis on close range fights between 0-100m (for me, it was 0-70ish), you can Jump in on an unsuspecting enemy from 150m easily and dump most of your damage then peace out faster than most people can react to you, or keep on the aggression by jumping over them when they tries to turn facing you, forcing them to keep track on you without doing any hits because either they try to keep aiming at you for a good shot or just entirely misses. 2. Before patch 1.31, this leg is an absolute perfect match with any dual zimmer build due to it can just Jump in unsuspected > unload double zimmer for instant ACS break > break punish with back weapon(in my case being Trueno since on 0 range you can easily shot it without fully lock-on) or kick them to next week and either keep the aggression or run away for another dive to either same target or different target if it's a 3v3 match. Now you can just replace the double zimmer with something else that can ACS break in a short combo like laser lance + sweet sixteen or something I rest my case
@humha7613
@humha7613 11 ай бұрын
This channel provided what is conveniently a college course for AC pilots. Thank you!
@jup1ter723
@jup1ter723 11 ай бұрын
Never really gave the Bornemissza a chance after seeing the boost speed on the stat sheet (what can I say? I love my lightweights), but seeing it hit 300 effortlessly has given me second thoughts. Thank you for the vid!
@kazj4908
@kazj4908 11 ай бұрын
it just sucks that grounded turning with the two heavy tanks is so miserable, otherwise I'd probably use them a lot
@Aereto
@Aereto 11 ай бұрын
The light treads are great, but treads have drifting while ground boosting, so take that to account when evading. You can go for hell on wheels style with that build as it allows firing weapons that normally require being stationary to shoot. Its natural counter being ACs built to track fast moving targets. The EMP grenade launcher will also annoy PvP when paired with the appropriate tactics that capitalize that status.
@Xanderj89
@Xanderj89 11 ай бұрын
@@kazj4908not hard locking on and knowing when to use the quick-boost enhanced turning tanks get is a big step up for usability ngl, lock on spins you around so quickly that your tank tries to turn a direction you didn’t intend and just kills the momentum, I had to really get used to free aiming to feel comfortable with them and not have them suddenly slow to a crawl because the enemy is fast and jerked my camera around
@EpsilonRosePersonal
@EpsilonRosePersonal 11 ай бұрын
Chrightt! I can't believe you! You had the perfect setup and you through it away! Why are the Legs the Soul of your Armored Core? Because that's where your feet are. 😝
@RenkaKurogane
@RenkaKurogane 11 ай бұрын
Nachtreiher. Never ceases to confuse me, because you think it's a reverse joint but it's actually a biped. Also, great guide once again. Helps when you want to build better designs.
@sirpuffball6366
@sirpuffball6366 11 ай бұрын
technically, the nachtreiher legs are not mounted with a reverse joint if you look closely, the of the leg below the knee joint just kind of suggests that
@stoovano
@stoovano 11 ай бұрын
They also benifit from the high jump distance affecting grounded quick boosts, without suffering from the rj unique boost, where they pop up in the air, not allowing you to chain leg assisted quick boosts
@RenkaKurogane
@RenkaKurogane 11 ай бұрын
@@sirpuffball6366 Hence why I say they always confuse me. It was only recently that I found out the Nachtreiher was actually a biped, because from the start of the game I've always assumed it to be a reverse joint due to its performance.
@quasadra
@quasadra 11 ай бұрын
It's a hybrid, that has the best from both worlds. Combine with the ALULA booster, it feels like piloting a NEXT sometimes
@Aereto
@Aereto 11 ай бұрын
​@@quasadra Just needs to be paired with the right generator appropriate to how you manage energy.
@magicalgirl1296
@magicalgirl1296 11 ай бұрын
Me like HAL. Looks sick, high stats, high stability, good jump stats for a medium weight so you can still move quickly despite them being on the heavier side of medium weight.
@vonrelevanz1963
@vonrelevanz1963 11 ай бұрын
A heavy biped build does have advantages over tank treads: -much wider angle at which you can assault boost (flies better) -much more responsive, if you actually try to avoid getting hit as well (maybe it's just bornemisza's bigger hitbox, but it feels like heavy bipeds dodge better).
@Brinkalski
@Brinkalski 11 ай бұрын
I use HAL for their high attitude stability (for bipedals). I was using Firmeza, but the speed wasn't helpful when I got staggered all the time. The HAL allow me to take more hits without getting staggered, and for a very modest EN load. Not only that, they have very decent jump distance, which gives me the effect I wanted from Firmeza with a lot higher AP
@GaleHarquebus
@GaleHarquebus 11 ай бұрын
I still run Nacht legs indeed for that incredible lightweight vertical jump.
@kevinhadj82
@kevinhadj82 11 ай бұрын
Love your content. And just for funs in terms of pronounciation : Nachtreiher = Nart (like ART with a N in front) - Rai (like in RAIse) - Her (insist a bit on the H like if it was doubled). It is a name of a heron (bird) breed in german language, which also fit with the thematic of that whole frame of being pretty agile and nimble.
@Boss_Fight_Index_muki
@Boss_Fight_Index_muki 11 ай бұрын
also, it needs to be spoken like you're coughing up phlegm
@justpassingthrough7728
@justpassingthrough7728 11 ай бұрын
Great vid, just one correction: you said that tank legs' QB Reload Ideal Weight is equal to their load limit, so if you stay within their load limit your QB reload will always be fastest, but the legs' own weight is taken into consideration for Ideal QB Reload, but not for load.
@Chrightt
@Chrightt 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, blunder on my part. I added this to the pinned comment.
@rhobidderskag1121
@rhobidderskag1121 11 ай бұрын
Unused EN Load HAS a useful purpose: it increases EN Supply Efficiency. You might think thats not important because of how fast your energy already recharges on the ground, but in the air, a high enough score can get you a meaningfully fast recharge rate while falling. You can combine the AG-T-005 Hokushi Engine with its incredibly high EN Output to Weight ratio, the Gridwalker Boosters with their superior upward thrust characteristics, and a high output adjustment core to achieve permaflight without the coral engine gimmick. A En Supply Efficiency Score of 7000-8000 is what you want to aim for; the higher it is and the lighter your AC is the less finesse it takes to maintain permaflight.
@GriFFonRec4
@GriFFonRec4 11 ай бұрын
He's talking about weight load limit. You shouldn't put on legs that can support a heavier weight because their cost is higher than the load you are currently carrying. Even for defense you may as well find another part to supplement the defense like the core or arms. Basically if you have spare weight on your legs, you should probably just use lighter legs. That said, he doesn't really consider Stability all that much in the video. I assume it's apart of the defensive capabilities of the leg, but as a stat it's a completely different consideration from AP and the 3 defenses in my eyes.
@TroidHunter
@TroidHunter 11 ай бұрын
I've been killing time by making my own spreadsheets for AC6 recently, so it was neat to see that someone as meticulous as you also thought that load limt + weight was an important stat. It makes the categories much more visible, especially for the bipeds. I'd post the sheet but it would feel weird posting my own on your video, aheh.
@TheSortingHelmet
@TheSortingHelmet 11 ай бұрын
Knowledge only helps all of us, including Chright :D
@jailcatjones3250
@jailcatjones3250 11 ай бұрын
Love the wheelchair tank treads
@philvess6376
@philvess6376 8 ай бұрын
Reverse joints charge kick/ double zimmer/direct impact missile (6x or 8x) was my favorite way to play at release. The amount of stagger this build was pumping out with an aggressive playstyle was a thing of beauty.
@JaggedJack1
@JaggedJack1 11 ай бұрын
Ohh new Chrightt video!
@Dredguno
@Dredguno 11 ай бұрын
Wrecker legs are good for breaking that all important 2000 attitude stability barrier to tank assault armor trades. important to note that the fortaleza stability was nerfed so that the max stability you can achieve is 1999, therefore you cant trade assault armor with those legs
@cridus_
@cridus_ 11 ай бұрын
oh neat
@sidders1943
@sidders1943 11 ай бұрын
The statement about tank treads having optimal boost time if you don't overburden them is false, they actually lose their qb reload very easily. You can check this very easily. On a side note I have yet to find a build where you actually want the wrecker legs.
@utewbd
@utewbd 11 ай бұрын
Firemza, wrecker, alba, nacht legs are my favorites.
@john-paul3271
@john-paul3271 11 ай бұрын
Great video as always, but I’m a so disappointed you didn’t go into how the tank leg boosters function. Specifically, QB reload speed is heavily reliant on weight for tank legs and I was wondering how/if the different tank legs had different thresholds for QB reload and other similarly effected stats. The booster video you put out said you would cover the tank leg boosters in this video. Hoping that you’d give us a graph like the normal booster got but instead of boost speed it would be QB reload. Maybe you’ll give this topic it’s own video later or when there will be more tank legs to compare like when they release DLC. 🤞 Got to give you the benefit of the doubt with all this excellent content you put out for the AC and Elden Ring community. Especially, in the face of these recent updates. Looking forward to your next release. Thank you for everything you do!
@LuciferLuckless
@LuciferLuckless 11 ай бұрын
He said in the video (19:17) that the QB reload stat for each tank leg is exactly equal to its load limit, so as long as you aren't overburdening your tank legs you're getting minimum QB reload time out of them. Their other booster stats should function exactly like other kinds of boosters.
@swordshaver
@swordshaver 11 ай бұрын
yayyy new chrightt breakdown, these have been invaluable for finetuning my builds, thanks for all the hard work
@dylansmall7787
@dylansmall7787 11 ай бұрын
We appreciate the time and accuracy it takes to test and put together an info sheet/video like this. Good job Chrightt! 😁👌
@rk13567
@rk13567 11 ай бұрын
These guides are incredible man, you’re the goat
@crestfallenhussar895
@crestfallenhussar895 11 ай бұрын
Here are 3 things I have foudn personally regarding 3 legs: 1) Basho's extra jump distance and speed is not to be underestimated. I think it has probably the smoothest side hops and general hops of any Biped. Great with a ground-based build using the Speed thrusters. you can circle hop while peppering your opponent with guns and avoiding return fire by throwing off the enemy fcs. 2) I said this before but 12345s on the Mind Beta seems to eliminate almost all landing lag of the grounded boosts that the reverse joints have. This is very unorthodox, but it does provide a unique vector of movement via a build that does nothing but grounded quick boosts to move around. Worth a shot although I haven't found its best use. Seems to pair well with redlines generators and gives enemy fcs tracking some trouble. 3) This hardly needs saying a light build using the VP-424s can reach quit fasts speeds while retaining a lot of stability. Ap sucks but a quad melee using the Pulse blade and more importantly the plasma thrower is a terrifying melee force that hardly requires the hover and nearly always has access to a punish melee attack when the enemy is in acs overload. You can also run a fast tetra with dual guns to utilize the hover to be able to maintain altitude and rain bullets (or in my build's case lasers) down on the opponent. this version of the build sacrifices back weaponry power however so it's very preference based. Both quad speed builds should be hitting roughly 340-350 boost using either alula or speed thrusters. Not the fastest but the benefit of precise altitude control helps make up for that.
@Josukegaming
@Josukegaming 11 ай бұрын
How do you run quad melee? You can only equip melee in one hand?
@crestfallenhussar895
@crestfallenhussar895 11 ай бұрын
@@Josukegaming Quad as in quad legs or the tetrapod legs. The armaments on my tetrapod (quad) melee build are left hand pulse blade, left shoulder plasma thrower, right shoulder huxley, right hand 4-missile hand missile launcher.
@EvilResidentXIII
@EvilResidentXIII 11 ай бұрын
In the chance we do one day see any form of DLC or update that introduces new parts, I would love to see the return of a "speed quad" If they can give us the wheelchair tank treads I don't see why a quad of a similar speed profile would be so impossible to ask for
@pallav8725
@pallav8725 11 ай бұрын
its kinda ironic that we don't have a speedy quad because in the first AC game, quads were the fastest leg types lmao
@EvilResidentXIII
@EvilResidentXIII 11 ай бұрын
@pallav8725 AC4A was my first AC game and yeah, that generation was all about speed, but I just have memories of enemies like Red Rum
@jakegibbs6003
@jakegibbs6003 9 ай бұрын
wish granted! we now have lammergeir legs.
@daemonhunter100
@daemonhunter100 11 ай бұрын
I love the Firmeza
@Playguu
@Playguu 11 ай бұрын
Firmeza my beloved
@Shifter5555
@Shifter5555 11 ай бұрын
I know Nachtreiher is is a very popular leg, but as someone that switched to heavyweights after chapter 3 it's interesting just how much the jump affects how you can play it, the fact it has almost double the jumping ability of the other 3 lightweight bipeds while retaining the fastfall means tap-jumping can be used entirely in place of quickboosting on the ground. And the score/cost reflects that too. It's an interesting offensive leg that can happily take lower weight boosters like the MULE with the extra weight spent on more defense or weapons.
@spacewizardpip1111
@spacewizardpip1111 11 ай бұрын
I could be missing some stuff but the Ve-42B/Hover Tank legs are just the best of in air combat. I tried Tetrapod legs and their hovering was really fun, but I often found myself falling pretty quickly to the ground.
@Chrightt
@Chrightt 11 ай бұрын
That would be a generator choice and build problem. You can run red-line generators and easily stay afloat on tetras Even for bipeds/RJs you can get a quick enough supply recharge with high enough efficiency to float forever.
@jeeBisOkay
@jeeBisOkay 10 ай бұрын
I actually really like the Kasuar legs for one major reason: they're excellent at close range, whether it's dodging or throwing off tracking. They're so damn fun to use with dual Vientos and a melee weapon.
@agentoranj5858
@agentoranj5858 11 ай бұрын
It's like you forgot about your combined weight + load limit stat when you got to talking about tanks. If you use your entire tank load limit, you'll be way over the QB reload ideal weight. The Bornemissza is very hard to keep at the ideal QB weight without either stapling a silly little core on top of its enormous hull, or giving up on the tank's main draw of having a lot of heavy weapons.
@Chrightt
@Chrightt 11 ай бұрын
LMAO yeah, I did actually. I was like, wow this is pretty convenient. Now that I think about it, my tank QBs have all been relatively long (but I mostly run wheelchairs so the QB difference isn't that big unlike the heavy tank legs). Added to pinned comment.
@acceleratum
@acceleratum 11 ай бұрын
Your videos are invaluable and sparked my love for AC6 helping me understand it all better!
@dylandarnell3657
@dylandarnell3657 8 ай бұрын
VP-424: [is only useful for sub-75k tetrapod builds] LAMMERGEIER/42F: "I'm about to end this piece's whole use case."
@ryughvilgefortz7538
@ryughvilgefortz7538 11 ай бұрын
hey ch-right bro, i followed your build u made played it for a quite while, u rly are good at what u do, u rly know what u doing bro, that build has like 80% + victory rate, very well optimized, very well thought out build, ty brada, keep on keeping on!
@xpavpushka
@xpavpushka 11 ай бұрын
Played almost always with bipeds/reverse. Quads are not my thing because to hover safely you have to be far away from the enemy, but gaining altitude is difficult and leaves me with low amount of energy (unless using redline engine). Most fun I had was using light(er) mechs. 60t close-mid range mech with 2x6 missiles, dagger and a weapon of choice is just 'chef's kiss'.
@KKKuma
@KKKuma 11 ай бұрын
We all know which leg piece you are going to use. All hail tha HAL leg!
@motokid6008
@motokid6008 11 ай бұрын
Good lord man you're a machine.
@alcoyot
@alcoyot 11 ай бұрын
This one where style/fashion plays a big role.
@alexradice8163
@alexradice8163 11 ай бұрын
I just can't use ugly legs
@BackwardsPancake
@BackwardsPancake 11 ай бұрын
Yeah - I really wish we had a couple more reverse joints (Or even digitigrades like the nachtreiher) just for this reason alone. Right now with the bipeds being so over-represented, only the gundam aesthetic fans are eating well.
@don945646
@don945646 11 ай бұрын
As a biped main thanks for the tips,it was very helpful.
@azurespectrum1985
@azurespectrum1985 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for these videos, probably the most important part on the AC. Cheers!
@Cheemsus0
@Cheemsus0 11 ай бұрын
Ive been using the spring chicken for my pvp setup. Run the stun needle, zimmerman, pilebunker and weaponbay your left for a laser dagger. Low damage but if your energy is depleted and the enemy tries to run its got 3 separate lunges for each swing.
@ethanowen159
@ethanowen159 11 ай бұрын
I love the way you format your vids
@Lemongrass_gaming
@Lemongrass_gaming 11 ай бұрын
0:09 because it’s a good pun
@Chrightt
@Chrightt 11 ай бұрын
For those that don't get it, the "sole" of your legs 😜
@tasin2776
@tasin2776 11 ай бұрын
Kasuar is actually good for melee builds since you can alternate between QB and melee cancel to move around while having a better kick than nachtreiher.
@AydenLloyd-js9wt
@AydenLloyd-js9wt 5 ай бұрын
Kasar is my favorite and I don't like you talking bad about it, but I also agree with you because all you have to do is equip one shoulder weapon and your overburdened.
@Darkja
@Darkja 11 ай бұрын
Hope FROM makes more legs other than bipeds... its boring being so limited with most builds (specially tetras now) and having soooo many bipeds that overlap with eachother so much.
@Hyperdisk
@Hyperdisk 11 ай бұрын
I want the ac2 hover legs that had almost no brakes. Basically ice physics
@Vayate
@Vayate 11 ай бұрын
These videos are great, I always learn a lot about AC building from them.
@RodneySizemore-uf4yu
@RodneySizemore-uf4yu 11 ай бұрын
We need fast running legs with super jump lol, and weapon arms need to come back, also I would really love to make an akimbo melee build so being restricted to which side a certain weapon is allowed on makes no sense to me at all, could you imagine dual wielding pulse daggers like holy crap non stop slashing hehe...
@TheRaven621
@TheRaven621 11 ай бұрын
Great work Raven🎉
@jacobolson1715
@jacobolson1715 11 ай бұрын
I’m always proud when I see the parts I’m using, and chright identifies the same strengths that I chose them for.
@peakspecimen
@peakspecimen 11 ай бұрын
Always appreciate these videos, thank you for your service, sir
@wolfiemuse
@wolfiemuse 11 ай бұрын
Good information! I’ve also felt like they were the most important, and I wish there were more
@YTKaedeIchigo
@YTKaedeIchigo 11 ай бұрын
Amazing video! Thank you for all this information. Very useful!
@jordanbauman-putnam9524
@jordanbauman-putnam9524 3 ай бұрын
I like to use the alba set with the Schneider reverse joint legs, turning on a dime mid air and high sustainability in the air is an easy eay to annoy your opponent, the legs guve a much needed boost to liftoff
@wiegraf9009
@wiegraf9009 11 ай бұрын
Great video, this is so informative!
@sphyrnazygaena2690
@sphyrnazygaena2690 11 ай бұрын
@Chrightt you are a real statistics wizard my man!! I needed to point this out, because I keep reading "number crunching" jargon referred to you, but that does not make any justice to your work! You study the data, produce/search for useful metrics and then provide meaningful conclusions!! You sir are a Statistician through and through! Do you happen to be a scientist?
@Chrightt
@Chrightt 11 ай бұрын
I studied economics for my major :P I do a lot of data analysis though.
@sphyrnazygaena2690
@sphyrnazygaena2690 11 ай бұрын
@@Chrightt Ahh close! But I was sure you got training and experience beyond "hobby level"!
@uhis1686
@uhis1686 11 ай бұрын
the real main selling point of the alba compared to other lightweight legs is that you get to look like a gundam
@davidteachout1888
@davidteachout1888 11 ай бұрын
I felt like I was being called out with how accurate the Tetrapod analysis at the start was lol
@BTpaintballer
@BTpaintballer 3 ай бұрын
A fun fact do a little upward boost as a tank, and it causes you to drift if you are turning
@ZeRedSpy
@ZeRedSpy 11 ай бұрын
Boat legs (floating tank legs) actually have a really solid assault boost speed.
@13576bard
@13576bard 11 ай бұрын
I've now done 6 playthroughs of the story, and I'm only now learning that the Nachtreiher aren't reverse joint 😅
@ripplecutter233
@ripplecutter233 11 ай бұрын
happy that crawler is a great biped. the starter ac is my fave fashioncore
@fillandeidda1736
@fillandeidda1736 11 ай бұрын
I wasn't ready for the Nachtreier revelation as biped and not reverse 😱🤣
@T1Oracle
@T1Oracle 11 ай бұрын
A low load limit and high EN is a huge problem! It really limits the uses of those legs. Costs are mostly irrelevant.
@Rigel_6
@Rigel_6 4 ай бұрын
Reverse Joints counterpoint - Kasuar legs look sick
@dangerwarg9682
@dangerwarg9682 11 ай бұрын
In every Armored Core game there are tank legs that are hover propelled. However the hovering part always meant nothing, making those legs just bad if they weren't faster than the go-to tanks legs. So it's a real treat to see that finally, FINALLY the hover tank legs actually have special hovering properties. The Nachtreiher legs also have a history. For roughly half the series there's a pair of digigrade legs based on an old villain's AC that used them. I don't recall if you could ever unlock the parts in the game the original legs were from. Whenever you can get them, they always excel an area another leg type does. Having said that, the parts said villian AC used may have been good* and cool, but that AC is super bad. You can almost recreate the AC in this game. Almost as in none of the cores or arms are tight match like the Melander C3 is for the very first mascot AC of the series. xD
@krustykrusader1702
@krustykrusader1702 11 ай бұрын
Really wish the Kasuar legs were worth using...
@cridus_
@cridus_ 11 ай бұрын
I've seen plenty of people really recommending them, here. I'm eager to try them. dunno why I didn't think sooner about being able to have the better kicks on a very light build.
@EStephensII
@EStephensII 11 ай бұрын
Chrightt be like “I trust you (simpletons) know there are four leg types” 🧐
@MonHunter
@MonHunter 11 ай бұрын
The boat legs also have a fantastic built-in booster for AB with AB values comparable to the dedicated AB booster Buerzel, so it can retain a surprising amount of mobility for its weight class.
@NumbingDisasterAnon
@NumbingDisasterAnon 11 ай бұрын
I run either Reverse Joint for quick response and tricky to track dashing or tank treads to drift a mfer
@gchyll2
@gchyll2 11 ай бұрын
Expect 1.04 patch changing key stat for legs😂😂
@johndemarco4286
@johndemarco4286 11 ай бұрын
Great Video! I would request a breakdown on all melee weapons next!
@GoToBedSheeva
@GoToBedSheeva 11 ай бұрын
How I choose my legs, it looks cool.
@fcfdroid
@fcfdroid 11 ай бұрын
This man has wisdom 😏🤌
@emberthecatgirl8796
@emberthecatgirl8796 11 ай бұрын
Literal “my soul is stored in the balls”
@WorkedSix28zerozero1
@WorkedSix28zerozero1 11 ай бұрын
You won't take my HAL-826s away from me 😭😭
@dutchvanderlinde248
@dutchvanderlinde248 11 ай бұрын
I went through NG with reverse joint, used the full Hal/IBIS set for NG+ and NG+2, now i think i might've found my true love with tetrapod. Lets me carry all the heavy murder goodness I was missing out on whilst not being nearly as ungodly slow as smelly stinky tank bits.
@seighnobos
@seighnobos 11 ай бұрын
I love making exact leg weight Limit ACS, it's satisfying and fun to build, though sometimes is not optimal. I used some to S some missions
@sssdrake
@sssdrake 11 ай бұрын
the kasuars definitely deserve some sort of buff, as they are now they just lose out to the nachtreiher legs, which are clearly supposed to be a middle ground between bipeds and reverse legs
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