How to deal with women close to you, an unhelpful guide by Kanade Izuru (ENG SUB)

Izuru's channel: / @kanadeizuru
Original stream: • 【雑談】最近ひきこもりがちな男【奏手イヅル】
#ホロスターズ #Holostars #Izuru

[@cassiopee9264]

Context: they were talking about school uniforms Note 1: About the end, Izuru then says that he has some kind of trauma but he did not get NTR'ed. I saw someone mention it in Astel's chat recently and it was really rude, please do not do that. He was just talking about something that might happen if he was being too nice. Note 2: 1:30 speculation but the reason he insisted he was really fine was probably because some people *wouldn't stop* asking if he's fine or sick, despite the chat telling them that his sniffling was NORMAL. Please do not be so insistent Congrats to RAG, they did their best in the APEX tournament today!

[@chiiken993]

Thank you for this! 🙏

[@Anikane]

Thank you for the sub!! Also yeah I cringed reading the chat 🤧 Idk why but especially Izuru’s chat is sometimes like this and I’m like noo can yall chill a little 😭😭

[@真冬-p1w]

I see a lot of people MISUNDERSTANDING that he GOT NTR-ED, so I want to clear that up. He spoke about NTR at the end of this clip, but that does not mean that happened to him. There was a comment in live chat(japanese comment) that said "Seeing with how you are with your mom, if you get a girlfriend you would most likely fight with her a lot". In reply to that comment, he said "No, the only woman I fight with is my mom. I don't really care what they do to me so I'll be like 'It's fine, it's fine' then will get NTR-ed at the end." THOSE WERE JUST "IF"S. Additionally, he have said several times in the past that he has no experience of having a girlfriend, and have no plan to have one. Thank you for even reading this comment!💖

[@cassiopee9264]

@@真冬-p1w thanks for your comment! This was my original understanding of the situation but someone told that right after where I cut off, he says that he has a trauma and that it has been a few years so... It quite confuses me now I'm sure of the fact that he wasn't admitting to it in my clip but it's the part that comes after that's a bit confusing. No RTR though

[@真冬-p1w]

@@cassiopee9264 Could you pls somehow correct your pinned comment, because many fans are misunderstanding it...Sorry, just don't want to let false news spread.

[@AdachiCabbage]

Why are poor Izuru's chats always end up being full of these kinds of people? I remember the last time some idiots were having conversations in his channel and kept saying that since he didn't speak English it was alright. I seen the same thing in Subaru's channel, with some oversea bros even saying "well I can spoil anyway she's not going to read it because she doesn't speak English so chill bro," when in fact Subaru can read some English; the bros backseating/spoiling to the point that I just report and blocked a ton of them. Never seen them again after either or their 'buddies' that I didn't block so there were just there to be an arse. So damn annoying.

[@arctohru]

If there are enough viewers, usually these sort of messages would get drowned out, but because he doesn't have that many its clear as day to see the not-great people

[@AdachiCabbage]

@@arctohru I just hope that he doesn't put all of the overseas bros in this light. I know how hard it must be in general to be a vtuber and to have disrespectful people on top of that is sad.

[@ApaMustacheeze]

oh my lord, the chat- are they new viewers? it's kinda.. cringey..

[@WaterCryo]

probably some 14 years old honestly it's both cringy and sad

[@_strawb]

@@WaterCryo Not all 14 year olds are cringey, nor is only 14 years old cringey it’s just that thier new viewers and don’t know the rules. Ngl new people asking how old Izuru is always annoyed me tbh, if they did the math from his debut they would know.

[@WaterCryo]

@@_strawb yes i do know that not all 14 years old aren't cringey since i am 14 myself but majority of time its just teen girl fanboying and i added 14 for the funny edit-restate my statement, not to say that i have never been cringy,i have been cringy but not as much as these fangirl

[@chocolatevancandy9929]

Istg the chat is....... Interesting. Like if it isn't people asking for him to speak English, it's people spamming nyas/catboy comments, or it is people asking if he has a gf or his age. Like. Personal questions are like even worse because 1. You should respect him, he'll only talk if he wants? And even worse, izuru _has_ talked about all those things before??? So if you are that fucking curious just. Look it up????????? Also poor baby :( being cheated on sounds like a traumatizing event tbh

[@cassiopee9264]

Really, most of those questions can be so easily answered with just a quick research but idk... the "are you sick" comments were the cherry on top 😩

[@chocolatevancandy9929]

@@cassiopee9264 yea, it shows they don't watch him often,,,,, izuru somehow always has the worst chat in holostars :(

[@RaemiChimiko]

"Then, just like that I'd get NTR'ed" ....Well that escalated quickly. F

[@cassiopee9264]

No one saw that coming-

[@gil_11]

@『M I R A』 basically getting cheated on

[@Kyuusuke39]

I imagine Izuru hovering over the "Leave Group Chat" button everytime he's engaged in a family chat lol Thanks for TL!

[@cassiopee9264]

I'm just imagining them seeing "Izuru has left the group chat" once a week, his family must be mad tired of adding him back lmao You're welcome!

[@jt4304]

First of all- poor izuru :( second of all- chat was so rude and annoying wtf-

[@geasstk1334]

yeah.....sometimes you ask yourself what the fuck is wrong with people

[@misslucywucy]

probably it's the new viewers :/ like chile yall too thristy

[@ShrooMIR05]

His EN viewers are the worse. Astel come close too.

[@excel161]

and probably annoyed him too. Because he understands English he often had to make a pinned comment demanding the english viewer not to be so annoying. the one I remember are he was asking not to have out of context chat and banning the hearts emoji

[@weedsoldierreal]

@@excel161 Yeah, Izuru has sadly have one of the most toxic chats I've seen, the EN part atleast I don't know about the JP bros, it's not because of the size either, I've seen plenty of bigger ones like Roberu and Choco where the chat's overall mature, so what gives?

[@noe4354]

2:46 "i love you so much that ill build a shrine just for you" wtf

[@cassiopee9264]

Yeah... Chat was weird that day, there were a lot of new viewers from the Outfit Reveal and... it was pure cringe

[@noe4354]

@@cassiopee9264 not even roberus chat is like this tho.

[@icahopilm898]

my eyes widened like the toy monkey meme where it looked behind him and looked straight again

[@Leahsfilms]

Lmao I saw that 💀

[@hiyoise]

its honestly very unsettling, they should keep that sort of thing to themselves, chat is getting out of hand

[@jamesjason8471]

Imagining themselves as not getting a girlfriend is one thing, but imagining getting one and then getting NTR'd for being a "nice guy" is really something else. Izuru and Astel really need to socialize with people outside of Holostars.

[@meferswift]

Sadly its based on reality.

[@junkyyard2273]

Apparently he did experience getting ntr'd

[@cassiopee9264]

@@junkyyard2273 I'm not even sure, one person said he was, another said he wasn't (that's what I first understood as well) so... Let's stay on an "if scenario" I guess

[@Vi7Vi]

"she told me I was too nice...I couldn't believe it" - 2pac, about how he got dumped

[@AdachiCabbage]

Astel actually dated a lot and apparently he's bi.

[@cookiesxcream7495]

Guys, Izuru understands english. Please control yourselves jesus christ..... This is very annoying

[@lore8984]

Thank you for the clip!!! That NTR comment really was out of nowhere- I was like ???? poor Izuru.. But oh god I was in stream for this one and was watching the chat in real time and I swear the EN chat was SO annoying and rude that day.... aside from the chat though, it was an enjoyable stream to tune in to! I remember Izuru reading out my comment somewhere in it, regarding the "simple life" topic, it really made me happy ww

[@cassiopee9264]

Yeah it was surprising! The chat was insufferable that day, I feel you... It was enjoyable tho, and aww I'm glad he read your comment out loud! Simple things but they can make someone's day so much better! (also, love your profile pic!)

[@lore8984]

@@cassiopee9264 Right, sometimes I'm ashamed to be apart of the ENG chat when things like that happen 😔... but thank you!! And yes, exactly! It really made my day! also thank you sm!!

[@user-zh5vo8db2e]

jesus christ the chat. also that escalated quickly,,?!?!?

[@richardch.4356]

Damn his chat be saying some freaky stuff

[@raenedjadi7976]

OMG I WASN'T READY FOR THAT ENDING

[@cassiopee9264]

NO ONE WAS LMAO

[@luji3306]

Fisrt of all, Thanks for the translation! Amazing work as always! I was in the chat realtime that day. I was kind of sad after saw en chat(I'm a Japanese user though) That make me don't want to chat in English somehow :< About ntr, Betrayal sucks. I wish him the best for his future.

[@cassiopee9264]

Thank you, I'm still getting there! Yeah I'm always lurking during his streams and wishing JP comments would suddenly flood the chat so he can't see some of this embarrassing stuff 😩 Hopefully it gets better someday and you can comment in English comfortably!

[@leamncd]

Ikr. I also rarely ever comment in Izuru's streams because of some ill-mannered eng chatters. Most I'd say are "lol" and "nice". On the other hand, I'm more comfortable commenting in english on Astel's streams. Though we should probably keep it down and give more space for the jp fam.

[@misteeanna]

the ntr comment came out of nowhere omg izuru 💀💀 thank you for the translations!!! every clip from you makes me love the holostars boys even more ;u;

[@icahopilm898]

bro izuRU NO he's like the LAST member I'd see ntr'ed bc of his general demeanor but this is only his vtuber side. But I don't want to see any more boys ntr-ed either.. :((

[@antonevan443]

God the English speaker in the chat are so cringy

[@apigeon9884]

So Izuru can read English after all! And here I was thinking "thank God he can't read those cringy fangirl comments (in English) in the chat"

[@potechiz]

I'm pretty sure Izuru have the highest English skill compared to other Holostars member. He just says that he can't speak/read English to avoid these cringy and annoying En chat like the one you saw in the video

[@rika362]

I just got into holostars one week ago so i'm pretty new that's why i'm trying to gather all informations I can get from all the members through searching and youtube but d---mn. After watching some translated videos of Izuru, I mean.. these chats... it's too painful to watch. What's with the "I love you" or "nice english". At least try to listen and learn some basic japanese so that you can somehow understand them. If not, then just listen quietly and let the JP bros talk to him or anyone who knows Japanese or just pretty much talk to him with proper topics even if they don't know Japanese. Interacting with them even if you do it in English (but please make it an easy english for their own sake) is pretty much appreciated by them. Gosh, I'm having second-hand embarassment from this video. I just hope Izuru doesn't generalize international fans or put us in the same level as these immature brats 😢😣

[@domi8499]

Nah, he loves all his fan, just not the cringy type, which is everywhere, not just the oversea fan, but the JP fan as well.

[@emoaf8555]

@@domi8499 oh...jp cringy fans proof?

[@domi8499]

@@emoaf8555 Izuru has recieved some real cringy stuff on his maro, some even accused him of ignoring his fan, which he replied by doing 14-minutes straight rant on stream

[@emoaf8555]

@@domi8499 lol that's funny, ig they were kidding tho

[@hao9631]

Kaida Haru and Izuru should collab sometime, they would relate to each other alot. Kaida too only have his mom hhhh

[@cassiopee9264]

That would be awesome!

[@evelynauleopold9450]

poor Izu predicting his future of getting NTR'd

[@Meme-jj9dm]

Imagine being Izuru's mom and getting blocked by your own son hahah if this were Twitter, his mom probably had alt accounts to bypass that block lol Also, that last bit...oof. First, he got catfished. Now, we know he got ntr-ed too. Our poor boy just can't take a break.😔

[@cassiopee9264]

She would have dem side accounts lmao I sure don't want to experience having a child of mine blocking me whenever he pleases 😭 Edit: a lot of people misunderstood the end but he didn't get NTR'ed, I just wanted to clarify that bit!

[@Meme-jj9dm]

@@cassiopee9264 thanks for clarifying. I thought it was a what if scenario until I saw one of the comments below talking about his trauma? So that was a bit confusing. It's good to know he was not NTR-ed and hopefully, he won't be. I read your comment though about someone bringing it up in Astel's chat. WTF?! Was Izuru collabing with him that time?

[@cassiopee9264]

@@Meme-jj9dm yeah, he only mentions some kind of trauma but not that! Yes Asuizu were playing Apex that day, I was really pissed asdfhjk

[@Meme-jj9dm]

@@cassiopee9264 I normally watch Astel full screen so I don't get to see his chat when he plays. I think I would've been pissed off as well had I seen that.

[@nanimatoryah]

Izuru is like one of the mc in anime/live action "Yamato Nadeshiko". Respect the guy cuz he knows what he's doing and also whenever Izuru doing a "chat only stream" lots of stupid people keep requesting songs and shit. That's so annoying.

[@nuiverse]

i didn’t expect that ending. izuru doesn’t deserve being treated like that 😔💔

[@katsu558]

"Is Izuru oka-" *"nO peRsoNal qUesTions"* Also, dude really admitted to being NTR'd. Honestly, respect.

[@lore8984]

The "no personal questions" thing was in response to people asking him "how old are you?" and "do you have a girlfriend?" and "are you in school?", which i saw quite a bit in the chat, they were just (rightfully) telling some eng viewers off so I dont see how thats bad lol

[@emoaf8555]

How did it seem he might not be ok tho.

[@axu890]

aaaaa thank you for the clip and tl omg that NTR bit was er... izuru are u ok ??? ww and ive noticed this just recently but i feel like izurus chat is the one that usually has cringey and creepy comments-? theyre wildin

[@cassiopee9264]

Nah his chat is the worst, I hate it there so much I listened to it again and he confirmed having some kind of trauma only, no NTR

[@axu890]

@@cassiopee9264 ah damn poor izuru 😔 that definitely left a mark on him

[@cassiopee9264]

@@axu890 it's quite confusing honestly, so I'm staying on an "if scenario" like I originally understood it, after all

[@yuna5129]

For some reason this is really helpful for what I'm going through right now and it just brought a smile to my face and I want to hug him because of what he has been gone through~~

[@onmyoji01]

Man :( that was sad hearing him get NTR'ed knowing what a great guy he is. ps. I spam my mom instead of blocking lolol

[@cassiopee9264]

Izuru was only talking about getting cheated on if he was being too nice btw! I never text my mom lmao

[@onmyoji01]

@@cassiopee9264 ohhh i see, thanks!

[@chuuyasan28]

Poor Izuru. His story and EN chat being weird. I guess I understand his channel rules now ahhaha

[@curlyeggyvtuber8087]

i watched this live and never thought that he is talking some deep things jsdbfnsd i srsly need to learn japanese

[@-Raylight]

Blocking your own mom and then unblock her lol 0 female friend in LINE? Someone date Izuru already! xD Lmao the ending, I wasn't expecting Izuru to say NTR. Who hurt you, Izuru? :(

[@cassiopee9264]

"after 3 days" I can't believe his nerve

[@edabakb]

Well as someone who has been cheated on before, I feel you Izuneko ❤ Thank you for the clips hun 🙌🏻

[@craftK98]

Izuru needs to man up and find some female friends to talk with although not as girlfriend(it's a plus if he gets one lol) Also the ending though didn't expect that,hope that he's already over with it😔

[@hiiragihasmanywaifu]

Missed some parts of the stream Also thanks for the clarification clipper san about ntr! (I was looking forward (not forcing tho) for izuru to have female friends in apex tourn esp the shuffle part but izuru wasnt there anymore and resting maybe)

[@cassiopee9264]

I'm clarifying that but it didn't happen to him, he just talked about it eventually happening (he was really tired so he left early, yes)

[@Lalalin26]

I'm early kkk 0 female friends on LINE? That's why you're still single Izuru-san😔 . Izuru: *left the family gc* His family: ah.. here we go again . Get NTR'ed cuz he let her girlfriend(s) do everything, idk which one is at wrong, Izuru or his girlfriend(s) lol

[@cassiopee9264]

Yeah, boy just has his mom and finds a way to block her lmao I can't with him! He's chaotic even among his family, I...

[@scyred4568]

Letting them do what they want just means he trusts them. Definitely the girl's fault. For example, let's say a girl let's Izuru do whatever he wants and he cheated then it's obviously his fault. The fact that someone needs to keep you in check probably means you're already a shitty person. It's entirely up to the said person to cheat or not. There is no "accidently cheating".

[@wyverdmez9190]

Both.

[@oopsiewhoopsie5742]

@@scyred4568 true true lol

[@kaigaikarano]

the last lines.... hurt me as human and as a man very much.

[@purplex360]

the english chat is horrid af ffs

[@meferswift]

Sadly being nice guys IS a prompt for being NTRed. Just reality on developed world. Also can happen on underdeveloped world

[@astelshusband2459]

wtf izuru lmao

[@takotakey9426]

The fact that he got away with blocking his mom... Can't relate 😅 also wasn't expecting the ntr comment... Poor boy...

[@cassiopee9264]

He wasn't cheated on btw! He was just saying that if he were too nice, his gf would do whatever she wanted and he might get cheated on!

[@takotakey9426]

@@cassiopee9264 oh ok! Sorry about that. It's just that it happened with my mom's friend that I assumed wrong

[@kresspqressie7722]

Oh my this boy w

[@gellichan09]

Izuru so relatable ... 😔😂

[@unownnnn]

It clearly sounded like he was saying something hypothetical so I have no idea the comprehension levels of people that are supposedly native.

[@goldenland9958]

What is this bruh- I can't understand the topic of this video ಠಿ_ಠಿ

[@donspulish]

smh id never ntr him i would just introduce him to my bf and we will be a big happy gay triangle

[@Xanek]

Well that ending went from 0 to 100 real quick...

[@no_namematrix8630]

God his little sniffles are adorable!!

[@kozuains]

what does ntr mean thank you for the tl!! 🙏🙏

[@keonmilksoup]

i think ntr means like cheating , his gf going out with someone or someone stealing her from him

[@Vi7Vi]

Yeah, it means cheating (in a relationship). In this case, Izuru is saying because he s too nice and lets his partner do whatever she wants, he'll get cheated on (and is seemingly speaking from experience)

[@kozuains]

@@Vi7Vi oh damn okay,, wild

[@cassiopee9264]

@@kozuains I don't think he was cheated on, he talked about trama after that but didn't specify

[@viicky22]

sorry for my ignorance but what is being "NTR'ed"??

[@cassiopee9264]

NTR, short for Netorare, is a type of cheating trope in hentai generally where the MC's bf/gf is "stolen" by someone else and the MC knows about it. But people use the word to talk about irl cheating sometimes, though it is a bit different (since NTR can be a fetish/enjoyed by the person who's being cheated on, I wouldn't use it in real life) Hope it helped!

[@viicky22]

@@cassiopee9264 ohhh, thank you!

[@Mp0i0313]

Ntr'ed life

[@Yokizeshi]

Why is his model's mouth not moving?

[@cassiopee9264]

I don't really know it's usually like that

[@cowboi4394]

Wait hold up I’m kinda confused anyone could explain-

[@ohime-samauwu9465]

izuru-san kind of looking like kokichi here ngl lol😭👍

[@9uu009]

Wtf NTR is?