How to decide if the Fanatec Brake Performance Kit and Damper Kit are necessary for your V3 Pedals

There are two optional extras that Fanatec supply for the Clubsport V3 Pedals - the Brake Performance Kit and the Damper Kit. In 4 and a half minutes flat I'll give you my opinion on who needs 'em and who's best to pass on it.
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[@markthibault8579]

For the price of the V3's, the brake kit inserts should be included.

[@FormulaProg]

Especially since they used to be £299 and now they’re like £350

[@markthibault8579]

@@FormulaProg By the time I have them shipped with all taxes paid, they would cost me $685 CAD (£391).

[@FormulaProg]

@@markthibault8579 actually it’s probably around the same for me in pounds now because of brexit. I’m happy with my CSL elite pedals anyway.

[@markthibault8579]

@@FormulaProg Right now, I'm running my old G25 pedals with the TrueBrake mod. I'm happy with the feel but would like a set that offers more adjustability for pedal spacing as when I left foot brake, my left foot hits the clutch pedal sometimes which is not ideal.

[@FormulaProg]

@@markthibault8579 yeah my mate that I race with a lot in GT sport and ACC has a G29 and the pedals are surprisingly decent, better than my old plastic thrustmaster ones.

[@mr6291]

The brake performance kit is a must buy. I currently run 3 greens (cut the 3rd green down to the size of the foam bushing). Fun tip, if you have an 8020/aluminum extrusion rig, save yourself some money on inverted pedals and just flip them yourself. Buy a few pieces of profile, some corner brackets and just mount them upside down. Swapping the clutch and gas is very easy to do without much though and the wires are plug-and-play.

[@playdead7724]

Can you elaborate more on this please? I prefer inverted pedals but haven’t found much info on inverting them

[@DEMON_CHILD709]

Thanks for this tip got a fanatec setup on the way with V3 pedals

[@PacMan592]

3 years ago but all of that sounds smart as hell

[@Tj930]

I built an electronic equivalent of the damper for my G29 pedals about a year ago. Tuneable and adjustable - small amount for the brake; x4 for the accelerator

[@MrFruitsalsa]

I did order the BPK after using the V3's for 2-3 weeks. The different combination of stiffness can be daunting, but it gives a lot of flexibility. Was definitely worthwhile in the end!

[@dannyleeracing]

Good to hear, thanks for commenting for people also looking - I am sure many people initially install the BPK and go 'oh no', until they've given it some time to settle and then it's much more natural

[@Mogzilla86]

Thanks mate, i bought V3 and a BPK 2 weeks ago, just used the V3 but going to install the BPK tonight, what combo did you go for??

[@MrFruitsalsa]

@@Mogzilla86 went for a medium first, but I swapped to the hardest just to try and left it there since

[@chriskross1660]

I bought my V3 together with the BPK and after some driving I installed the BPK ... the red and green, not too stiff. It works better for me than the stock foams, a short moving way with a defined good pressure point. For me very good pedals, I recommend the black spring in the throttle and in the the clutch also. I tested no damper now.

[@drewedgeley2845]

What is your personal opinion on the damper? Just a rating of 1-100 will suit me and others just fine! T.I.A 👍 😊

[@jordancollier6716]

short, sweet, concise. Seriously brilliant video

[@066motocross]

I'm saving for these pedals. I race 100% oval tracks both dirt and asphalt. I really expect these to be a massive improvement over my current g27 pedals

[@dannyleeracing]

I'd say you'd find these pedals to be massively improved, the dimensions are much more like a real car and the damper would definitely be worth it for oval especially.

[@dustinglenn829]

I raced dirt oval a lot on iracing and these are a lot more fun to play with. Absolutely one of the best purchases I made besides a buttkicker.

[@McLogo76]

I just got a 8020 rig new and with that the V3 pedals and performance kit. I really like the brake with red/green 13mm. Thinking about getting the damper kit for the throttle pedal. Great vid!

[@DavyJonesSimRacing]

Thanks Danny for sharing your thoughts and experience with this product!

[@BUTTERY-APEX]

My v3 would be in the bin without both dampers .... Had a few pedal sets lots of mods. I'm installing second BPK now. I'm cutting this one 😅. If I had a pc id go Husky's but I'm stuck with these. Great video good opinion.

[@trendkill518]

Great video and look at these kits. I will be ordering what I need with more confidence now. Thanks

[@BenjaminBauckham]

When I bought my Fanatec gear (V3 Pedals (With BPK), Clubsport V2, and Formula V2), I decided against the Damper kit as most reviewers seemed to suggest it wouldn't be worth it, especially compared to the BPK, but after having many issues with UPS involving taxes, stolen items, and many more issues, Fanatec gave me a coupon to cover some of the issues, so I might actually get this damper kit with it for pretty much nothing :') Thanks for the video :D

[@mallardmalarky3112]

$299 for the Clubsport + damper + brake performance kit right now on Fanatec

[@ShadowRacing]

Always interesting to watch your videos! Keep up the good work👍

[@dannyleeracing]

Cheers geezer, I enjoy doing it when I have spare time, thanks for the support from the start

[@mirshia5248]

im using half pu only from the bpk no reds or greens, so it isnt for everyone

[@trendkill518]

Have you tried the damper on the brake? Any idea if worth it or the BPK should be enough?

[@jsanders299]

Great explanation, thanks. A question I can't find an answer to is the D pedal plates. What is their purpose?

[@HowlerBikeVlogs]

Great video, since the damper comes with the v3 inverted pedals i was on the fence of mounting it or not once it comes in. Now i will surely give it a proper go on the throttle as i mainly race gt3 but i do like a bit of drifting and rally on the side

[@wagonet]

Love your content. Your voice is great on camera too

[@Pawrcawddeo]

I don't know which one to buy between: - Fanatec V3 inverted (with Brake Performance Kit and Throttle Damper) - Heusinkveld Ultimate+

[@curry_man69]

Does the damper kit on the brake pedal make much of a difference? If so how does it feel on the brake with and without the bpk?

[@sib217]

Just picked these up and installed. I can’t seem to get the damper to turn so I can loosen it a bit….

[@runofthemillz]

Sooo I can get these with both addons for $530 or the heusinkveld sprints for $605 😬

[@drewedgeley2845]

Hi there man, i have subsribed to you as you don't draw things out, and just get straight to the 'honest' point! I appreciate that, as i don't want half an hour of waffling going on, unless it is required!? ... Thanks for the quick info, and on the mark. 👍 Drew (UK)

[@wwjnz9263]

How does the Fanatec CSP V3's with the brake performance kit stand up to pedals like the Sim-Jack Pro, Sim-Alien pedals or the Girrosim XR Pro pedals? At $420, they are right in the middle of the Alien and Girro's prices, but I want to know if its worth it to go with any of the other pedals for a little more or less (in the case of the Sim-Jacks). I will be coming from a set of Fanatec CSL-Elite LC V1 pedals. While I like some features of the CSL-ELITE pedals, not being able to adjust the brake to sit proud of the throttle when fully applied, is dissappointing. The CSP V3's can do this to some degree, with the BPK and some modifications. But the Jacks, Girros and, Aliens can do this right out of the box via minor adjustments. Plus the 3 aftermarket pedalsets allow me to place the pedals exactly where I want. The Fanatec CSLE'S pedals can get me close but the CSP's are kind of a goofy solution to pedal position. Software wise, DiView is a manual version of what Fanatec offers, so its a wash in my book. Plus my CSL-E's work better on DiView... So it will be second nature for me to set them up. So how does the CSP V3's compare to these other pedals?

[@ArchAangel21]

wish the csl’s could have a damper

[@playdead7724]

Would it be worth putting a damper kit on the brake as well instead of the BPK?

[@mrhammers78]

Any particular reason your pedal weights motors are upside down?

[@nidhoggroom]

@Danny Lee, Is there an easy way to swap the clutch and break on V3 pedals, I see there are several that have bought this pedal kit, but needs to swap when using Playseat F1 because of its middle rod mount. Perhaps you could do a video on how to do it?

[@dariennegron6938]

What should I have my damper at if I have the two reds and play f1 a lot

[@BeachCoffee]

Hi Danny. You may have answered this but what insert did you use from the kit? I have a kit on the way so want to know where to start. Cheers.

[@dannyleeracing]

Sadly I can't remember! And I've since sold the pedals so I can't check, either. Best thing to do is go middle stiffness according to the chart in the manual, then go out from there in either direction

[@Mogzilla86]

do you still need to adjust the load cell once you put the perfomance kit in??

[@dannyleeracing]

Yes, but that's just a matter of adjusting the preload piston or control panel settings - should be simple stuff

[@jamesleegte]

I upgraded from the elites with LC ( my elite LC pedal broke after three years of abuse ) to the V3’s and also bought the BPK as per you tube reviewers advising to do so. The stock set up is awful and I was 3/4 of a second a lap slower in GT3 cars at formula tracks. Not only that they feel horrible and are squidgy and mooshy. The BPK is more immersive and made me slightly faster than the elite plus load cells.

[@DrR1pper]

Which combo did you use?

[@jamesleegte]

@@DrR1pper I finished on 12 Green and 13 Red.

[@stoss-11]

All i have to say is DONT BUY IT, i tried all green and all red and it’s so stiff even after the pedals have been recalibrated that you can’t even press the brake to 100 if u tried and the car doesn’t slow down in the game. The piston on the shaft has plenty adjustment to make it way more stiff if you want. DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY AND BUY THE KIT. Fanatec really does have a reason why they don’t include this kit with the pedals lol i like a stiff brake pedal to, don’t get me wrong, but those stiffer spacers are for some crazy ass applications that 75% of ppl i don’t think necessarily need

[@ViaticalTree]

What you’re saying here doesn’t make sense. The choice of elastomer doesn’t affect the amount of force it takes to brake at 100%. It affects how far the pedal travels before you reach 100%. The amount of force is only dependent on the brake force setting in the software. This is how a load cell works.

[@SpaceRanger187]

What's the best set up under $500

[@dannyleeracing]

If you can get the V3's with BPK and Damper for that budget then you're pretty much set, you won't want to upgrade. Otherwise the CSL Elite with Load Cell Kit has much praise and comes in well under budget.

[@marceloazamendi3940]

Just curious.. which bpk combo do you recommend?

[@dannyleeracing]

I can't remember which blocks I've got in! I'm really bad at documenting...

[@abe_duarte]

I race with socks and the medium is quite good for now.

[@mkatakm]

Those were dark days indeed.

[@ThisLadWayne]

Anyone know how to get the accelerator and brake vibration for traction abs in ACC

[@abe_duarte]

Take a look at the utility Fanalab, it will allow you to set it up.

[@ThisLadWayne]

@@abe_duarte ahh i use simhub now, didnt know fanalab was doing it. which is best?

[@ThisLadWayne]

Damper kit is not worth it. Or mine is broken.. on accelerator any more than a setting of 2 and it’s ridiculous to press.

[@EeekiE]

We had this with ours. Within a few months it was leaking oil. We got in touch with Fanatec and they immediately sent a replacement before we even sent the original one back. Keep an eye out for it leaking.

[@ThisLadWayne]

@@EeekiE it makes a squishy sound. Is that normal?

[@dannyleeracing]

@@ThisLadWayne Squishy sound is normal because it's forcing fluid through an adjustable chokepoint. Don't forget that you would want higher settings 4-8 if you attached it to the brake pedal, and settings 0-4 if you attached it to the throttle. Rough estimates based on my own experience.

[@ThisLadWayne]

@@dannyleeracing thank you. Although the grub screw is tight. I feel the damper gets easier. Currently have it on throttle

[@Steve19105]

Use red weaker spring with it, black spring is too heavy. Good when driven with boots, but not without it. Just my opinion.

[@bernardste]

I bought Bpk. Used and try with almost all the combinations,but I totally lost pedal travel,and immediately became too stiff to use. Brake became on/off erasing any chance of trail braking . I removed,and I found again the right feeling. I usually drive with only socks,shoes are for real racing in my opinion (I prefer without them,even if I own kart shoes) I think it’s a lot personal,and it’s incorrect to say it should be installed by default. My opinion.

[@dannyleeracing]

Your opinion is valid - Clubsports do kinda demand shoes to use properly otherwise it'll be painful to use, I found that to be the case when I transitioned from G29. If you found the brake to be on/off then you may find that to be down to calibration more than anything but if you've got it how you like it then no need to revisit.

[@bernardste]

@@dannyleeracing I think this V3 has a lot of settings you can set,and even if I disagree that BPK should be already installed,I think you’re right when you say it should be included (into the box). There’s a lot of settings you have to try,and find the right one to be really comfy. There’s even some compromise you have to accept imho,because you’re right,stiffer is more realistic,but it doesn’t mean more performance. A lot of options you have to consider (preload yes/no,travel and how much,shoes yes/no, left or right foot for braking..),and find the right one. I recalibrate manually every time with Bpk,but even if inputs in the game are better,lack of travel for my style is more important,so I decided not to use it. Coming from a G29 too and it’s a big upgrade, but needed some time to get used to.

[@dustinglenn829]

@@dannyleeracing I had a hard time getting used to the pressure based brake coming from the thrustmaster TMX but the performance kit helped a lot. The cork like rubber really gave it a nice up front squish and helped me get used to it and especially trail brake. Having it on the lowest setting with a green/red combo I've found it to be insanely immersive and fun. Personally I think variable rubbers inside are an absolute must for the feel of trail braking, my best advice for anyone struggling with it.

[@chrispictures1]

These pedals are not as good as csl elite load cells.......I use the bpk and the creaking is horrendous,and it makes no difference how much grease i use...... there is also a scraping where the pivot enters into the section where the elastomers are.....my v3 are now going to be packed away and putting my elites back.......the seperate rubber options is a bad idea also as they quickly soften requiring constant recalibrating... i,m currently trying to think of a totally different material to use for dampers, i,m certainly going to try without the foam piece,as this squashes in a matter of minutes......these pedals are all show,,, simplicity is the key without having to strip everything down each time a small change is needed.......MY ADVICE IS. “GET THE ELITE LOADCELL

[@Jamdaman]

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