How to Decipher a Ford Fe Engine

[@frizzellracing]

Been building FE’s for 40-ish years. I’ve gotten to the point where that is the only engine I build in my shop anymore

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Very cool! I want to build more FEs as well

[@brokensafety1]

@frizzellracing Hey maybe you can help me out then, My uncle passed away and left me a 1969 Torino, and a 1971 Ford F100, one engine is a 351 Cleveland, and the other one im not sure it has a 7L10 Stamp on the side of the block, and piston bore stroke is 3.75" approximate, and the bore width is 4.1875" I would greatly appreciate any kind of insight! it is a side oiler

[@turbotony796]

DUDE THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO!!!!!! I have been going ALL over the internet and looked at all kinds of videos about how to identify the FE that I am working on. you made it so easy to figure out. AGAIN THANK YOU!!!!!!!! I have the heads off so it is going to be easy to measure stroke.

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Haha I’m glad it was useful. The FE can be confusing but it’s definitely one of the most versatile engines out there

[@jasonmeineke8788]

Hey, bro, just wanted to tell you. Thanks for the video I appreciate it much. My stepdad's old school. I'm only 42 years old, but he was Vietnam. He's still alive, but he had a 57 Ford. One time years ago with a 390. He knows Ford's like no one else's business. I am so happy with this video. Thanks for the info. I'm gonna share it with him. Obviously.I'm sure he knew all this but thanks again

[@johnbroughton3401]

The drawback of a 390 was inefficient exhaust manifolds, the strangler 450 CFM 2 barrel and it's weight. The good news is that an Edelbrock RPM kit with a few other goodies remedies that. Just swapping out the iron intake with aluminum was the difference between grunting the iron one out with both hands to placing the aluminum job in with one hand.

[@mykatawato2043]

Like everyone says those C4AE-G heads are great performance low riser heads. As you may know, FE heads come in 4 flavors: High riser, Medium riser, Low riser, and Special (Tunnel port and SOHC). DUE TO THEIR HIGH-PERFORMANCE NATURE AND SCARCITY, the HR. MR and Special heads are very hard to come by. Low risers make up the vast majority of all the most common FE heads and come in two types: Big port and small port. The best Low Riser is arguably the C8OE-N Cobra Jet head, really it is a big port low riser and medium riser small port, combination head. Next down the list are the C4AE-G heads and the other early LOW RISER\BIG PORT heads, 5752142/3, C0, C1, C2, C3, EDC, C6AE-R, C6TE-G, C7AE-J, etc. These all flow very similar high flow rates like the Cobra Jet heads when larger 2.09 and 1.65 valves are installed. The later ones even have the bosses for the 16 hole exhaust bolts like the CJ heads, but not drilled. Some also have the Thermactor ports drilled, some do not. The last category, and by far the most common, are the LOW RISER\SMALL PORT heads like the C8AE-H, C6AE-U, D2TE-AA, C7AE-A, etc...The high velocity, a small port, late model, smog heads. Good heads but they flow less air than the large port, low riser heads, and make less horsepower. These were the last of the FE heads ever made before the FE line was phased out of production forever in the late 1970s. The large port, low riser heads like the C4AE-G and the C6AE-R are considered the budget alternative, poor man's CJ heads due to their similarity to the Cobra Jet heads, C8OE-N. Beware of pretender FT heads as they are all low RPM, small valve, small port heads with no performance value at all. They look identical to FE heads but have an additional exhaust port cast in them. Google the casting numbers on all heads to be sure. Lastly, although FT heads are junk, FT blocks and cranks are golden. The blocks are all very strong, HD castings that can run FE internals. (Like the 391 FT truck block) FT cranks are all forged steel, although the snouts must be machined down for FE usage or you will need to use FT hardware.

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Some great info, I should’ve gone more detail with the heads but there’s so many hahaha. I also have a set of the smog 428 heads which people have told me are anchors haha. So many variations with the FE

[@daleandrews3552]

I also like the '64 Galaxie 500 XL (with 390 badges) behind the engine you're talking about. Lots of good info and enjoyed the video. I just turned 70 so I can remember these cars when they were NEW! I used to remember riding our bicycles around the Ford and Chevy dealers in my small town of DeQuincy, LA in the early and mid '60's the day before new car day in September for the following year. They used to put brown wrapping paper over the windows the day before when they drove the new cars into the showroom. In those days, each year they completely redesigned the WHOLE CAR, including the dashboard and instrument cluster! For example, compare the body styles of the '60, '61, '62, and so forth Fords (or Chevys) from year to year. They're COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CARS!!! As a car guy, growing up in those years was magical. 🚗🔧🔩

[@jt9462]

Not all 427's are cross bolted,there are marine and industrial ones that are not.

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Really? Never heard that before

[@robbalex1963]

@@OmarRamirezGalaxie John Torrez 1 week ago (edited) Not all 427's are cross bolted. John is correct .

[@notme810]

Marine and industrial engines aren’t cross-bolted

[@cammontreuil7509]

@@notme810 most of them.

[@donnatalielucasheimbigner7598]

There are plenty of 427 TOP OILER blocks with the typical 2 bolt main caps. The cross bolts AND screw in core plugs are only used on the SIDE OILER blocks. It is true that if they are present on a FACTORY installed set up that it is a 427. As you said, there are competent machine shops that can set up the cap set up in a top oiler block. I put together a 390 block with the side bolt main caps, screw in plugs, & a 428 crank & 410 pistons to build a 410. Also, a 360 can be made into a 390 with a crank swap (they have the same bore). I don't remember if the 360 uses the 352 or the 390 rod, so you need to check that out also. It has been 30 years since I last messed around with my FEs. They are a great way to make fairly cheap but super reliable power with excellent torque. There are more good quality aftermarket parts for them now than there was 30 years ago.

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Some great info. You are right that you can make some good power relatively cheap. A 428 crank in a 427 block comes to mind!

[@donnatalielucasheimbigner7598]

I always wanted to do so, but the only 427 block that I found & could afford was a top oiler that was pretty pooched. The great thing is that a 30 overbore with that combo yields 454 cubes. There are a few aftermarket companies producing new side oiler blocks now. Not sure of the price, but it is probably fairly spendy. It would be a great combo with a set of high riser heads & manifolds.

[@pb68slab18]

I'm a die-hard Chevy guy, but even I know the diff between a .427 top oiler and the more common side oiler. There are a couple good books on the markings, numbers and other details of the FE motors. Which BTW is my favorite Ford engine.

[@billbrown5853]

352 and 360 use the same rod because they share the same stroke. 390 has a longer stroke therefore it has a shorter rod.

[@normanjones5167]

They never made a 2 bolt main 427 top oiler never. I have had several and my dad worked for the total performance program in the 60’s

[@gordonstroup882]

Hey Omar, great show. You showed me a few things that I didn't know at all, but then again, I am a Chevrolet and Mopar guy myself. I've never owned a Ford. Oh wait a second, I take that back. In the late 80's, a brother in law gave me a 1970 Maverick. That thing was stock as stock could be, all the way down to the air in the tires, ha ha! Well not the air in the tires because I had to buy new ones, ha. It was a white 2 door, 6 cylinder, automatic with red interior. Oh, it had factory A/C too. We had the car about 2 years, never had to do anything to it except change the oil, then we sold it. That's my Ford story, ha ha. Keep up what you're doing Omar, with your shows. They're very good and entertaining. God bless you my friend and I hope that you have a great day.

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Thanks Gordon! Those six cylinders are always pretty cool to me, I have a video on six cylinder coming soon!

[@broncobros2022]

Good info. You mentioned the CJ head and GT head having the extra exhaust bolts. They are NOT the same! The GT head has 14 bolts and the top bolt on the first and last cylinder is lower than the middle 2 cylinders. You can buy header flanges for 16 bolt CJ and use them on a standard 8 bolt head. But you can only use the 14 bolt header on on a 14 bolt head.

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

That’s correct!

[@notme810]

Good tips 0mar! 👍. One additional thing is that the C4AEG is a good head to have built in to a poor man’s Cobra Jet head, with the 8 bolt exhaust they are good in full size cars like your 64 or pickups. It appears to be a 65 390.. It would be a great platform to build a stroker 445 by boring it .030 over and using a 4.25 stroke crank from Scat.Good Luck!

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Yes, looks like a very good block to convert into a 445. If I decide to keep it, that will be the route for sure

[@jackieliner3812]

Also, the 6090G head is the early version of the 6090R head

[@Pedrofitbulls]

@@OmarRamirezGalaxie keep like da im putting turbos in mine

[@dinadaughtry8993]

A 390 that is not bored is a good find, especially with that aftermarket intake manifold, that alone is worth some good coin!

[@johngaughan1712]

Start with the basics. FE = Ford Edsel. Good that you are being critical about identification. DiF, MCC etc help identify years etc...

[@1951RKP]

While rare there were some FE 427’s that weren’t cross bolt mains. Some of the old marine applications used in old Chris Crafts and some industrial uses. I have worked on a old 1970 Chris Craft with 427 FE Ford and it did have cross bolt but some of the older ones didn’t. Very rare.

[@myname9337]

There are no known 406 cross bolt engines. 427 industrial engines and those used in boats were all cross bolted. However, what you have to be careful of on the marine 427s is the reverse rotation.

[@daledavies2334]

Not all 427FE had cross drilled and bolted main caps. Many family man sedans had a 427 without cross bolts, some in more door cars in '66 to '68.

[@fordman4287]

Pre 73 blocks have 352 cast in them. 73-later had a mirror "105" in its place, these blocks were cast at Michigan Casting Center, earlier blocks were cast at the Dearborn Iron Foundry.

[@jeffrey4547]

do u know how many different types of bell housing bolt patterns there is on a 390 so far i have ran into 3 different ones like a 63 t bird is one of a kind i got a 63 t bird 390 tri power running good for 75 buck with the cast iron auto but with a broke bell housing thought that would be easy to replace but could not find one no after market or used so i had to build it from scratch

[@dce428]

I have a D2-TE. That's a. 105 mirror blick

[@Imnotyourdoormat]

😆😆😆 Outstanding Video. An expert B-Esser once told me the "FE" on his 390 stood for "Factory Experimental"... When I told him he might want to check if it didn't stand for FoMoCo-Edsel I asked him why it also said "352" then? He said he didn't know that. But he also told me his stock 77' Mustang with a 302-2V was a...."BOSS."

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Lol

[@Imnotyourdoormat]

@@OmarRamirezGalaxie 😆😆😆Thats all I could do, was lol... but I did walk around and squat down and looked up under his 'Stangs back bumper and Yep, there it was big as life just as thought. He'd painted the differential bright yellow, and of course, he didn't clean anything or take it apart first, he just sprayed yellow over everything...dirt and all.

[@joebarber4030]

Don’t over look the the other FE performance engines that were made. The solid lifter screamers 352 , 390, 406, and 428 Hi Pro/ police. All high compression with solid lifters and hot cams. You just don’t know until you open those old FE’s engines

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Very true I’ve heard of the 352 Hipo engines in the Starliners and the police interceptors. Some truly great engines! I hope I come across any of them

[@walterf6993]

I noticed your 64 Galaxy 500 in the background. I had one with the 352. I wish I still had it. And thanks for the tutorial, very informative.

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Yes galaxies are my favorite! Thanks for watching

[@Pedrofitbulls]

@@OmarRamirezGalaxie I want one so bad I got a 74 super cab and a 79 too

[@Pedrofitbulls]

@@OmarRamirezGalaxie I’m putting turbos in my 74 so is a dually

[@91rss]

there was a 66 352 in 1 tons that had cross bolted block you can build a 427 from , a neighbor told me

[@KingCountyMetroSTC]

I knew before you measured stroke that you had 390 instead of 352/360. The end of the crank flange had smaller square notch rather than larger half circle cut out. Easier to see on engine stand although you might be Abe to see through flywheel inspection plate. Your method is easier if you can’t see the crank flange. I had a similar issue with 79 4x4. Sold to me as 400, turned out to be 351M after measuring stroke. Otherwise no way to verify. I was sold a 390 by a junkyard to find it to be a 360. After complaining after I measured the stroke they sent me a real 390 that used in a truck for over 20 years without any serious issues.

[@thinkingmanhillbilly]

the 406 also had cross bolted mains. the 361 and 391 FT engines have steel cranks but the snout is bigger the a FE crank snout, you can have them turned down to use in a FE or leave them for running a blower. You can also make a top oiler cross bolted block a faux side oiler by feeding oil to the mains through the side bolts with special hollow bolts.

[@dce428]

The 406 for the street. Was not cross bolted. About 6 monts into the racing season. In nascar ford came up with the cross bolt mains. For Nascar

[@kimmorrison9169]

Dave is correct here. Few 406’s were cross bolted

[@EmmaBarr-ft8le]

back in the 70s, i got a block and heads from a guy that told me it was 406. on the back of the block, it did NOT say 352. it had HP markings where the 352 should have been. as far as motor mount bolts, it only had 2 on each side, instead of 3 with a huge mount. still have 1 mount around someplace. this engine had both a cam thrust plate, and the old spring and button. this thing was an oddball in my opinion

[@v1-vr-rotatev2-vy_vx31]

First engines I ever built were the fees the part numbers were easy to deal with in the Ford dealer made it real easy when looking for extra parts, I found them quite easy to deal with in interchange heads cranks intakes you name it and those 1.76 rocker arm ratios is what racers use on their race engines

[@Terminxman]

Good thing you had that caliper to measure those extremely precise marker marks, you would totally be able to differentiate by 0.004" Not to mention measuring multiple strokes as if they had cylinders with different strokes that they somehow made work

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Thanks!

[@stevelee5724]

Because we all love Ford v8's and wanna learn. 💙 from New Zealand guys!

[@JDWard-Jeepster]

Early 406's are also cross drilled and while rare are not worth 427 prices. They never made a 406 side oiler.

[@smsjr36]

Great video! What about FT (heavy truck) engines. Such as the 330 - 391 ..How do you identify them?

[@roberthoffrichter287]

You know it's funny it doesn't matter if it's a 335 3:52 361 390 it doesn't matter cuz you can do anything with it 4:28 gets a little thin 427 definitely not unless it's a 427 block but you can do a390 on all FE. Blocks I believe 428's and later had beefier reinforced ribs in the crankcase area, but all cam be built great ,fact is 352's can be made to 500 HP and be 390's to

[@Beartracks51]

My Son and I have a 390 in our Truck..72 3/4 ton chassis dana 60 rear and manual tranny. and cab n front clip from a 77. We checked the stroke and it was three n three quarters.. 360 would be 3.50. Had a 67 with mild performance strong 390 had a 74 shortbed original motor was 360 but eventually put a 390 in it 2 different times. There expensive as hell to work on but wen there built rite they are Damn near bullet proof and last a long time if treated with love respect change tht oil and change filter out between oil changes. The oil return holes in heads should be opened up alittle and chamfered. I always run 6 quarts we live on bad bumpy dirt roads tht oil splashes around in pan.

[@oregonhumble3291]

It's externally balance fly wheel will have a counter weight for balance all 427 have a 428 crank also measure your stroke when a bdc

[@shonbratton1906]

N the old Kunitz Kraft days of ford stroker kits using ford rods. The FE kits used 351m/400 connecting rods

[@scrappyjunk8793]

you have some marine 427 that are not cross bolt they have flat top pistons and different solid lifters but it is a true 427 block

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

That’s right!

[@ronaldolweiler7745]

I like the 352 , 360 , bore them to use 60 over pistons , big bore short stroke ! 292 duration 512 lift , aluminum intake with a 750 , I beat 390s all day

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Hahaha that’s awesome. Thats a pretty big cam

[@scottscheuerman8714]

I have a aFE engine that has been rebuilt once that I am going to rebuild for a highboy pickup it’s number is C4AZ F the tag has cid 390 on it . I guess it was made in 1964 but besides that I don’t know what the AZ F means

[@njseashorechas2698]

Nice find! Keep up the great work, Thanks!

[@jessiplourde9121]

Went through a few 352fe engines in my 66 f250.

[@brianboyle3998]

My first guess is the white paint on the springs is an identifier for the builder.

[@mooosestang]

Hmmm, the motor in my 63 tbird has threaded holes in the block above the oil pan, but no bolts in them. I always thought this strange. they don't go through the block obviously or i'd be losing oil. I just assumed it's a 390.

[@mooosestang]

Ah, a little googling tells me they were used for transmission cooler lines in 61 and Ford changed the lines to the drivers side in 63 i think so that's why there's nothing threaded in the holes. Seem like large holes for a bracket.

[@edsel6818]

Hey my 1958 EDSEL CITATION has the ORIGINAL 410/475 engine, 😁 GREAT VIDEO 👍

[@errolpoxleitner7901]

I have 2 352s and 6 360s people claimed were 390s but I got them cheep the trurk blocks will make 427s or 428s with the right cranks.

[@gregscott3114]

G'day Omar another good upload mate, i enjoy the content . How is the 428 build coming along ? parts delay like everybody else i suppose , it's even worse down here in aussie !! Looking to build 445 stroker on my 390 for the 66 Fairlane convertible . thanks again

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Yes still waiting on the engine block, the rods have been resized with ARP bolts. Just waiting for parts as usual. A 445 is going to be killer!

[@notme810]

I hate the parts delays! That is a neat 390. The C4aeg heads are good. A guy named Blair Patrick did a 390 with a set optimized that won the Engine Masters Challenge Vintage Class at 596 peak hp with those iron heads!

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

@@notme810 damn that’s crazy

[@notme810]

@@OmarRamirezGalaxie Ford was way ahead of their time. Henry Ford pushed the engine dept hard to make the FE special. It is a pain but a trick they used was the huge 85 lb intake. It made the engine very quiet, but you could get it down to just a heavier than a small block Chevy by changing it to an aluminum one. All of the performance and racing engines weigh less than the competition by at least 60 lbs. lol. I weighed mine when I had it out and it was the same weight as an all iron SBC, lol.

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

@@notme810 hahaha yeah they’re pretty damn heavy lol

[@jeffoman54]

i'm pretty sure the 427, 428 is a different block from the rest of the FEs

[@roymartin4771]

Easiest is to just get the stamped number off the crank. I ran a 390 in a pulling truck with c4 heads off a 352 thunderbird motor and factory 4v 390 pistons rods and crank. Comp 305h cam 750 holley on the t-bird intake. Turned 7500 easily.

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Haha yes, most people don’t like taking apart the engine before you buy. turning 7,500 is insane haha. I don’t think I’ve ever heard an FE that high

[@roymartin4771]

@@OmarRamirezGalaxie blew my mind too. I was expecting maybe 6500 but it held together...somehow.

[@cooperparts]

You can drill heads for GT manifolds

[@AndieBlack13]

At 5:27 , see the oil-filter pad on the left? This engine has not been reworked, a performance shop would have optimized those oil-passages by enlarging & smoothing out the holes we see. Read Steve Christs' book on FEs.

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Very true I have a video on these modifications coming soon!

[@AndieBlack13]

@@OmarRamirezGalaxie So, are you going to have the block & heads run thru a "washer" first, then magnafluxed?...don't bother working on it till you get the green light from magnafluxing....blocks less likely getting cracks, heads are a bit more prone, especially valve seats, that narrow point from one seat to the other.

[@georgevazquez8521]

From what I understand the crank is a 390 because it has a notch cut in the mounting for flex plate

[@WesAdams-HillsideAuto]

That isn’t true about the notch…..

[@georgevazquez8521]

@@WesAdams-HillsideAuto I would confirm with stroke anyway

[@WesAdams-HillsideAuto]

@@georgevazquez8521 you totally should!!!

[@ablemarine9072]

Another guide to think of.........352 Fe motors can be a 352 360 390 and I think some 427 motors can have a 352 stamp on them! And Ford did make non cross bolt mains! Pull the heads to be more certain

[@iristhompson2350]

No body has mentioned the 332. When the FE's came out in 1958 they were either a 332 -2v carb or 352-4v carb.

[@jeffrevill6492]

Very nice video I had assumed the engine I have is 390fe maybe I need to look a little closer.

[@BHoller-pj2mx]

I Dig the tunes. FE For Ever!

[@sive1231]

Would've been better with commentary than music

[@jimolson8424]

There is nothing wrong with a 352 . It has thicker cylinder walls . You can bore it out big. Alot of people do not know this.

[@chrishorst6993]

There is even a 406 FE same stroke as 390. Instead of 4.05 bore of 390 it has 4.13 bore making it a 406 from factory

[@billythegreat5616]

Just take a look at the flange on the end of the crank if it has a half moon in the crank its a 360 if it has a small square notch 390 if if it has the square notch and a the halfmoon notch its a 352.

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

I’ve heard of this as well but it would be good to check the stroke to be absolutely sure

[@toviyalovelightlife6180]

So no adjustments of rockers?

[@jeffrey4547]

can u tell the different from a 352 , 360, 390 , 428, it is all in the stroke

[@edwinyoung2719]

The block numbers will also tell you what engine you have too

[@harlycooper8289]

You can also take a 390 Fe and use 360 truck Pistons and they will bump you up to about 10 and 1/2 to 1 almost 11:00 to 1:00 compression don't know if you knew that or not

[@samuelfreeman9518]

Later 360s actually had 390 pistons putting them way "in the hole" that's why 360s were dogs, 7 to 1 maybe. Also 390 pistons were usially zero deck, so early 360 pistons that had the taller compression height pistons (like a 352) would end up way "out of the hole" causing them to hit the head at TDC.

[@fordman4287]

Also 390 truck engines used 410Merc pistons to achieve the same thing

[@samuelfreeman9518]

@@fordman4287 Good to know. I'm going to be like a boomer and ask $500 for a set of used pistons out of my '73 F100 390 now, claim they are rare 410 Mer pistons, haha. That will help with my eventual stroker build.

[@stevelee5724]

On the 'GT' heads ? 14 bolt or 16... Do any parts roll over to Windsor or Cleveland? Any specs similar to W or C ?

[@larrymichaeljohnson1135]

1958 332cid 3.30 stroke app. 1st FE is missing

[@dce428]

The C4ae 6090 G. Head is the best. Standerd. FE. Head out there ported they can flow up to 300 + - 220.s. I know. My set flows around that they can be worked to make up into the 600 hp range. Stock they flow 245 - 178. Average not bad for a standerd 390 head to do better you will have to step up a a 428 cj. Head

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Yes I’ve heard of the “G” code head being the best standard head. By porting it, they can make some good power. I believe Barry rabotnick used them on a stroker FE with huge power.

[@dce428]

I run a set of worked C4 ae G heads on my 428 solid roller making over 650 +. Been running 1/8. Heads up / & grudge FE. Fox swap. Called tick turd. In have run. 105. In the 660. Ft breaking just off idle with a C6. On motor only. So yes. They can make power when modified

[@chenlee3240]

Oh mine is in between 390 406 because .004 is too small. I was hoping it was 352.

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

406 is really rare. I would say most of the time it is a 390 but you can always get lucky

[@earlcollinsworth]

You missed one! Lincoln used a 430 in the mid 1960's

[@Imperialist440]

The Lincoln 430 & later 462 are the MEL engine family, not FE. Lincoln's later 460 was the 385 series engine family.

[@michaelwhittier6631]

Its got a valve hanging out of the block ,thats how

[@stevelee5724]

Question. 14 bolt exhaust manifolds ? Not 16 ?

[@eighthof8]

Very good explanation. These are very good engines to make cheap power. It was an all day affair with 4 buddies and a case of beer putting headers on the engine in a uni-body car like my Torino. Then later, you'd need all kinds of weird extensions and socket wrenches to change the plugs. Was it worth it? Yes!

[@91rss]

on Fords, stuff happened at the plant if you "knew" a union guy or was a quick we need a certain car assembled. know a guy that built cars at Ford..

[@stevelee5724]

I admit it 'we love all v8's ' yes we do !

[@harlycooper8289]

Pretty good but there are several other things you need to mention I have three 427s Fe all of my engines have 427 high performance stamped on the back and they are center oilers 1964 a way to tell a 427 from a 390 is the heads here looking at a 427 someone claims to be checked the numbers on the heads if it has medium riser heads you are pretty good because medium riser heads will not fit a 390 the valves hit the side of the cylinder walls being they are for a bigger bore and the valves hit the top of the engine block instead of the hole another way is to take a scope stick down the spark plug hole and check for numbers on top of the Pistons another way to check is to center freeze plug hole remove freeze plug start on driver side get a flashlight look in the hole it will tell you if it is a 428 or 427 and sometimes you will get a 427 that has been stroked with a 428 crankshaft making your stroke a 428 stroke so don't let that fool you that somebody isn't selling you a 427 because of the stroke it ends up to be like at 4:54 460 at 30 over I have seen 427 Ford side oilers with no cross bolts so you can't really go by that either sometimes and by the way nice Galaxy I happen to have one just like it with a 427 in it

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Awesome thanks for that information. I guess it’s just like I said, ford did some pretty weird stuff back then haha. Also never knew some 427’s didn’t come with crossbolts. That’s pretty Bizarre haha.

[@cammontreuil7509]

My 64 427 doesn't say 427 at the back of the block. ?

[@henryverity4894]

I ordered a 1964 galaxy 500 new a 427 it did not have cross bolts 427s came out in 1964

[@cromm2279]

Very good info bro!💪😎🇺🇸

[@70sport37]

Pull the pan inspect clean run it !

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Yes, I’m going to put it on the run stand after I’m done with the 428fe. I think it will run

[@mikerosetta9140]

not all 427s are cross bolt

[@cooperparts]

I don’t think you can put the cam plug the other way hits the cam. Never tried

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

You would be surprised haha, it will run but it will leave metal shavings from the rubbing.

[@cooperparts]

Are you saying to did it?

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

@@cooperparts nope, I’ve seen the wear it does when the plug is installed backwards and it’s not good

[@kevinmacneill8008]

Good information, thanks for the video.

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Appreciate it thanks

[@kennethcohagen3539]

It’s not a 427 cross bolt. There are 427’s without cross bolts.

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Correct !

[@starzanhorse4758]

Anybody know what an X block is?

[@jamesrichardson2077]

never laugh at a 352 super intercepter.mine came out of a 64 galaxie,,she was NEVER outrun

[@brandonbell3089]

Didn’t mention the 360 FE

[@starzanhorse4758]

Castings!!!?? I have an X block

[@henryverity4894]

I HAD 1964 427 That didn't the cross bolts

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Correct, some industrial and marine 427s did not have crossbolts

[@Guitarranoel]

Just, out of curiosity, what is a 390 engine worth$$.????

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Depends on a lot of factors. I’ve sold a 390 short block for $400, I’ve seen running 390 for around $1500-$2000. What kind of parts, rebuilt, untested engine. Here in California they seem to go pretty high

[@johnnersinger9771]

What does FE stand for?

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Ford Edsel

[@dogismyco-pirate]

Thanks man!

[@michaelbenardo5695]

Is the Edsel 361 of 58/59 the same as the 360 truck engine?

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

I believe they are the same. A 390 block with a 352 crank.

[@michaelbenardo5695]

@@OmarRamirezGalaxie I always wondered about that. It is just like the 28 - 29 Cadillac 341 and the 1930 LaSalle 340. They are the same engine, but the Cad had to have a "bigger" engine.

[@DONTGIVEAFUCK1984]

Nice!

[@kiethholland3650]

Came for information not a music video

[@kellyscott227]

If it was me I would tear it down to check it out.

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Haha yes, but a seller wouldn’t really want you to tear down their engine when you’re trying to buy it

[@kellyscott227]

I meant after I bought it I would tear it down to check it out, set of gaskets are cheap for piece of mind. I've started them on the ground before I bought them.

[@duccanard9079]

Ya left out the internal/external balancing stuff

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Yes, lots more things come to mind haha. I think other people will comment and add to the list

[@notme810]

I would internally balance any engine that I plan to go over 6000 rpms with. Especially the 4.125 and 4.25 stroke kits.

[@byler390]

Keep posting! I’m restoring a 67 Galaxie Convertible XL 390 with tripower . Ill check if you have a IG account.

[@dfcvda]

wow

[@jackwagonhoedown4114]

I have a 332 FE…

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Wow pretty much the first FE made. Don’t think I’ve seen one in person yet

[@frizzellracing]

You want to sell the 332 ?

[@fishaholic122]

What does FE stand for?

[@OmarRamirezGalaxie]

Ford Edsel

[@fishaholic122]

@Omar Ramirez thank you I have a 63 galaxie and have been watching ur rebuild for tip, lord knows I need them. But I have been asking around for a long time about what FE meant and couldn't get an answer, thanks again