How To Destroy A Franchise - Dragon Age Veilguard

[@TheActMan]

Support me on PATREON ► www.patreon.com/TheActMan Bioware has fallen on hard times with Dragon Age Veilguard. Between the bad writing, generic combat and a lack of RPG identity, the Veilguard is easily one of Bioware's WORST games. I think it's one of the worst games of 2024. Welp, time to start up a new playthrough of Mass Effect or Dragon Age Origins...

[@EKk8819]

Well at least "Them" and "They" have a game they can enjoy. For all us normal humans who live in reality this game is BOGUS! Also too bad "Them" and "They" make up for an entire 0% of Dragon Ages fanbase... Why these companies continue to ruin their own legacy to please this non existing non binary crowd is beyond insanity! Even if there was these pretend non binary gamers everywhere they wouldn't wanna play these trashy games either!! What agenda do these people really have to keep pushing this nonsense to us I have no idea, but I'm so glad gamers aren't buying it in the slightest!

[@tomvu1470]

Steps to destroying franchise began long before Veilguard. Start with the money grab project Dragon Age 2. Rushed into production before game was fully fledged out. Inquisition merely let the franchise remain on life support. It was already heading downwards and this latest iteration merely accelerated the crash down a cliff

[@tomvu1470]

From what I recall, even the story behind the making of Inquisition was a bit of a sh*tshow that somehow Bugsthesda managed to pull out

[@EKk8819]

Too bad "Them" and "They" make up for an entire 0% of Dragon Ages fanbase... Why these companies continue to ruin their own legacy to please this non existing non binary crowd is beyond insanity! Even if there was these pretend non binary gamers everywhere they wouldn't wanna play these horrible games either!! What agenda do these people really have to keep pushing this nonsense to us I have no idea, but I'm so glad gamers aren't buying it in the slightest!

[@Scytha86]

Now you feel what we are because happened with the franchise what you care about. The only reason your disappointment exist because the people who made those great games are no longer work there, its just a logo and behind it people who dont care about games just their personal mission to force their wold view on us.

[@DontStopCornPop]

Someone mentioned that the human characters in this game look the same as the human characters in Shrek and now I can't unsee it...

[@dominiking69]

And as of reading this statement neither can I

[@Someguy1a]

Neon knight did in his video

[@mistydolphin2524]

@@DontStopCornPop that is an insult to Shrek characters.

[@Ohmlander]

The one dude looks like the Eskimo ppl from Ice Age lol

[@olesyamoiseenko1547]

that was synthetic man :)

[@velvadere7832]

"So, I'm non-binary." Peter: "Who the f*ck starts a conversation like that? I just sat down."

[@xianviii]

People who don't want to beat around the bush and get to the point of the conversation. Sometimes this is exactly how this conversation starts. How many times have you watched a show or film where a character wants to discuss something personal and just sits there stuttering and tripping over their words for 7 episodes causing problems because they just won't speak directly? Besides, that line is the best line in the entire questline as it's literally the only realistic one. It's probably the only thing taash ever says that isnt being sexist, racist, bigoted or just straight up offensive to the rest of the group.

[@Member_zero]

@@xianviii Hey. I need you to know I'm vegan. That's right. I'm vegan. And you better remember.

[@creamywhitestuff7732]

@@xianviii Hey man, I need you to know that I identify myself as an apache helicopter. That's right. I am an apache helicopter. And you better remember.

[@Ilyak1986]

In the meantime, a lot of potential players suddenly identified as non-buynary.

[@MadWatcher]

@@xianviii Hey, I need you to know I'm actually autistic. That's right. I'm autistic, And you better remember

[@KeytarArgonian]

Having Isabella, a self admitted murderer, thief, sometimes slaver and people trafficker suddenly care about peoples pronouns was fucking wild.

[@antonakesson]

I mean.... she would, if she liked the person. She is nice to those she likes and not to those she doesn't like. I think she would care only because the other person cares. But this Isabella feels off anyways.

[@terribleivan1475]

@@KeytarArgonian erm, she might be an amoral menace to society but at least she isn’t a *bigot* like you, chud

[@mikeallan7740]

The whole scene is a struggle session lecturing us that apologising isn't enough and prostrating yourself before the person you've offended is the only way to atone. It's the end result of having degenerate attention seeking narcissist authoritarians influence a games writing.

[@quigonlynn1]

​@antonakesson indulging someone's mental instability isn't being kind. In fact you are doing more harm than good. Would you agree with an anorexic that they are fat even though they weigh 4 stone? It's exactly the same thing. Refusal to accept who you are requires professional psychological help, it doesn't need normalising.

[@KeytarArgonian]

@@mikeallan7740 i find it very much religion coded too. I know someone that was talking to their therapist about how guilty she feels about being ‘a bad feminist’ and to me it came across like a confessional. Ironically, she hates this therapist now because the therapist basically pushed back and said something along the lines of ‘what does that even mean? Where is this notion coming from’. It’s like a dogma it’s so weird to me.

[@MyKuntze]

I don't even want to pirate this game...

[@Brian-uq6jm]

Same, would not even touch if if someone gifted it to me.

[@FM-ny6cn]

​@@Brian-uq6jm I'm someone gifts me this game, I'm suing lol

[@donaldn5798]

The fall from grace is all too common nowadays

[@williamtruett3421]

Sadly I'm going to play it to see how far the series has fallen I waited ten years and I can say it looks bad 😔

[@ofusowre7620]

😅

[@blehbleheh]

Bioware after Mass Effect Andromeda: "We've learned our lesson" Bioware after Anthem: "Alright we mean it we learned our lesson" Bioware after Dragon Age Veilguard: "Learning lessons is rooted in racism and misogyny"

[@mikelus102]

Return to form

[@FakeAdirTV]

Character development

[@Flesh_Wizard]

​@@FakeAdirTVcharacter devolution

[@darthcinema4262]

The ultimate tragic hero to villain arc

[@crazyguywatchnu]

Shhh sounds like you are blaming woke and act ma'am doesn't believe it's hurting games

[@slushbrain8495]

I posted on the dragon age reddit and got banned for saying tash is the worst written character in bioware history. It had 3k likes before ban.

[@Cbd_7ohm]

​@@Ratimir101Worst company ever. I got banned on there multiple times for no good reason. Half of the people there are mentally ill.

[@-dreamless-]

Pointless to post anything on Reddit these days. Mods, and even most of the users there, are woefully thin-skinned and hate any sort of criticism.

[@Cbd_7ohm]

@@Ratimir101 Reddit is terrible.

[@IzunaSlap]

@@-dreamless- Being a mod is the only semblance of power they'll ever have in their pitiful excuses for lives

[@GrievousReborn]

You cannot have a level headed conversation about that character on that subreddit without somebody accusing you of being a bigot

[@TheIndogamer]

I saw the notification and I thought it said "How to destroy France"

[@brawlytgamer4995]

Should been that

[@TheActMan]

that is also high up on my list of priorities!

[@MGBlast666]

Relevant

[@crimhammerlock8963]

Bouta follow this up with "Why a war in Europe would be so AWESOME"

[@gunznblades3547]

An Italian friend of mine would approve of that title XD

[@Akiraspin]

Remember when this was a series about the nuance and necessity of sacrifice during times of war? Remember when it had tons of background origin stories that were each like 3 hours long and fully immersed you in both privilege and oppression? Remember when it was about making hard choices that you could feel would shape the futures of many? A game that really made you think? Remember when characters behaved as if they actually lived in THIS world and not our own? *Well you better forget all that shit because now it's about you sleepwalking through mobile-game tier combat while being inundated with borderline fucking Velma-tier dialogue.*

[@Acrylescent]

I swear there is an infection in the media writing space right now that makes them all forget what “show don’t tell” means.

[@grindcoreninja6527]

It's partially condescending and partially due to global audiences. I also know a guy in the film industry and he's said that nepotism rules writing rooms, not talent.

[@WolfieElsworth]

Possibly the "writers strike" hitting things way harder than anyone realized it would. Makes sense actually...

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

@@Acrylescent Trend chasing. Happened before with the "emo" back in the 00s, multiple media depicting "edgelords" in "dark" worlds and whatnot, the trend reaches its breaking point (to the video-game media) when Donte showed up, remember him? Devil may Cry reboot was received with tons of scrutiny, the western media in general shifted to more colorful stuff ever since (even more so with the success of the MCU). Trends makes everything look and feel the same, the difference between the current "w0ke" trend compared to "emo" is how social media twisted the trend into something abhorrent, the ugliest trend I've ever seen, it makes the hippies look reasonable in comparison

[@Bioshyn]

Just don't call it woke, that's overused.

[@TheHorreK2]

So true, its a plague... not just games but Movies too. Like everything is just giving you in conversation. Nothing is really shown/you almost get no scenes where you can figure stuff out by yourself.

[@yasuchika]

Tash is 100% some writer's self-insert, and that writer has severe childhood trauma.

[@thereaver8083]

You misspelled "mental retardation".

[@majora919]

Yeah "Trauma" , I guess that's what they call it now

[@tubey84]

It's literally the game director. Corinne Busche - a trans woman and self-described 'queerosexual gendermancer'. 'course, Act Ma'am won't flag that properly, because he's sat upon the fence as usual.

[@rockowlgamer631]

@@majora919 More like drama at this point

[@SonicChaocc]

I read that as Trash and its a really good nickname for that character

[@StevenW42]

Crazy times where I’m not excited for Mass Effect 5 and Elder Scrolls 6

[@denurios2439]

Indeed, also, I can't believe I'm happy that KOTOR remake got cancelled. Wild times.

[@oo7sk8punk]

I dunno, seems about right... do you think people who love the movie rocky were hype for rocky 5? there's reasons why most franchises don't go that far

[@vintage9240]

What’s wrong with elder scrolls 6?

[@vincentcoates2442]

@@vintage9240 After starfield being incredibly mid at best with all of the same problems people have expressed having since like fallout 3 and skyrim people just dont expect that bethesda will change anything to make es6 any better.

[@americancapitalist9094]

Playing through the original Mass Effect Trilogy and enjoying it so much. Not sure what was happening in my life that made me miss out on these. Maybe some day we’ll get back to games like this, but if not- at least we had them.

[@teirdalin]

About social issues. Why do they not use the term Aqun-Athlok instead of non binary? Literally it's already in the lore and culture.

[@ilarioraio]

because Taash is a little kid desperate for atention and using an already established term in her culture wouldnt make her feel special

[@Dynoids]

That's the main problem with a lot of modern games. Instead of reflecting today's issues (socially and politically) in a fictional world in the context of that fictional world. They instead insert today's issues intrusively and completely outside of the context of the fictional World they inhabit.

[@Bartoc1988]

Or the current writers only know stuff that was written down in a fandom wiki.

[@FearOfTheTrooper]

writers are too big of narcissists to do it in any reasonable way

[@cameronwiscovitch4186]

Fun fact! One of the staff for Veilguard (specifically a cultural consultant) was Laura Kate Dale, a former Kotaku journalist who infamously accused Persona 5 of being ableist because of a miss heard verse in the opening song “Wake Up, Get Up, Get Out There” around the time of Joker’s inclusion in Smash Ultimate. Yes, this game had involvement from a Kotaku writer. That should tell you most everything you need to know about this game.

[@terribleivan1475]

@@cameronwiscovitch4186 oh wow, I remember that outrage bait. Glad people are keeping tabs on these paragons of virtue and talent lol

[@BuryTheLight-tds]

Damn, I remember hearing about her a few months ago before the game was announced, that's one hell of a coincidence.

[@frankbumstead1804]

CEOs are finally seeing what happens when you go with a trend that flies in the face of good business practices. It goes unnoticed until release and then Andrew Wilson gets to talk to investors with egg on his face.

[@YourBlackLocal]

Fun Fact! This isn't even true. A simple google search says they were a cultural consultant, which isn't even a writing focused job.

[@cameronwiscovitch4186]

Still not a good look for being a cultural consultant when her biggest piece was so hated, Kotaku had to walk it back and apologize. Still, thanks for catching that. Comment was fixed to better reflect this.

[@alitgm1903]

it felt like a group therapy session instead of dialogue

[@mikeydflyingtoaster]

And a lecture. Their ability to make the dialogue feel like both is actually admirable

[@Kolya-687]

Literally

[@Ryder42]

And a terrible one at that

[@HI-hr5up]

This game was made for game journalists.

[@andresbogado7133]

Troon therapy.

[@TurtleChad1]

The dialogue is extremely off putting. I do not understand how people can like this type of writing.

[@dodgsonwevegotdodgsonhere9970]

They don't like it, they just get paid to say they do.

[@terribleivan1475]

Or they know that they’re supposed to like it to fit in

[@insertgenericusernamehere2402]

Many many bioware games have had corny dialogue, if the game is fun it doesn't matter.

[@katoka143]

Well hello person that i see under every asmon/hero hei/ rev says desu/ luke stephens video

[@insertgenericusernamehere2402]

@@katoka143 turtle or me? Lol

[@TheRealCarlBrutananadilewski]

Why does every single line of dialogue feel like it was written ironically? They don't talk like people having a conversation, they talk like they're aware they're in bad fiction

[@asarishepard8171]

With their reactions of surprised Pikachu face, im guessing they're not aware their writing is bad 😂

[@someguy3186]

Because they’re written by socially stunted weirdos who spend more time on Reddit/Twitter than they do with actual human beings.

[@CrazyOtaku11]

Dialogue choices are just an illusion in this game - Good nice guy - Jokey nice guy - Serious nice guy And almost 100% of time the dialogue doesn’t match with what was written.

[@TheNamesDitto]

Ah the Fallout 4 dialogue choices. Greaaaaaat

[@masterknife8423]

Tbh dialogue choices are just like that in DA Origins and BG3.

[@MSKIV]

@@TheNamesDitto least the Fallout 4 dialogue can be funny on rare occasions

[@henrikaugustsson4041]

You forgot that every category is also snarky and sarcastic.

[@ifckdyomama]

@@masterknife8423Not at all. You must not have played either of those games if you think it’s the same

[@derpderpderpPSN]

Origins: send Alastair to be executed so you can recruit Loghain Veilguard: sorry for misgendering you

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

Soft, sterile and fake

[@Ryder42]

I did not even know you could do that in Origins... I've always taken the beat the crap out of Loghain option lol

[@thisismyyoutubecommentacco6302]

@@Ryder42 He's pretty much a direct replacement for Alistair in terms of roles (both are tanks) but yeah, if you keep him alive Alistair quits the party and you have some options. He can quit and Anora will order his execution as she views him as a threat and competition. He can quit and you can convince Anora to spare him, you'll find him as a drunk in Kirkwall in DA2. You can convince him to marry Anora whether he's in your party or not, that said if you want to do this while killing Loghain you need to be the one to do it, not Alistair, as if he kills her, she won't marry him. I've always let Loghain live and then had Alistair marry Anora, makes the most logical sense game of thrones style for the realm and stability and Loghain actually has a decent impact in later titles (inquisition especially). You can also run into him in DA Awakening as he's now a warden and actually is sent to Orlais as an emissary (ironic considering his hatred of them for their invasion of ferelden).

[@tlaloqq]

what does misgendering have to do with anything? you chuds always soy face at any queer depiction in media as if queer folks haven't been around since well life itself. hermaphrodite the greek god was intersex, shiva (god in hinduism) has a half female half male form, mulan and Joane of arc both are gender non conforming people. Hell look at the history of rome, greece and persia. Just say you don't like queer folks and be honest :/ and also shame on @theactman for liking this comment. Didn't realize you were so afraid of queer folks

[@bluemoon1716]

​@@Ryder42yup i had loghain have sex with morrigan to make the old god baby and then he got to reunite with her in Inquisition

[@Sir_Carnage]

The "modernization" of the dialogue and interactions is probably the most frustrating and eye rolling.

[@keiran5170]

I've played 18 hours and its so jarring when they use modern words like " you can vent to me", its borderline fanfic

[@elseggs6504]

​@@keiran5170 And this is therapyspeak! Notice how venting, gaslighting, and red flags popped up? Its mentally ill people who think theyre smart cause they asked their therapist once

[@akmal94ibrahim]

But it goes so hard though, no cap

[@theunknowman12]

​@@akmal94ibrahim yeah hard to watch

[@abtimus]

that is definitely off putting yes

[@kelsipherzatozia840]

It's like they wrote dialogue using an AI that was forced to watch marvel movies over and over.

[@adamtapparo2168]

What’s wild is that BG3 was a million times more inclusive of any/every sex/gender/race, allowing anybody to romance anybody else, they just didn’t feel the need to jerk themselves off about it.

[@ursusemperor]

Its mainly the fact that BG3 shows instead of telling, It doesnt feel condescending

[@barrag3463]

Because they had real writers working on BG3.

[@bastiwen]

Even Inquisition did it better when it comes to trans characters with Krem.

[@Lucitaur]

One of the nice touches they did is have the 'identity' (a personal thing) option instead of 'prefered pronouns' (what annoying cunts demand others to refer to them as OR ELSE).

[@JovencitaPera]

Bg3 wasn't woke because everything was optional. I could go around the game murdering every minority I see if I wanted to. In this garbage game they removed the ability to skip cutscenes when the trans character starts preaching

[@rodrigozzzz8198]

Every time you feel stupid, remember that Bioware management looked at all this and said "looks good, let's release it"

[@Jorendo]

Even worse, they looked at it as said "So we F'ed up Andromeda, the fans were not pleased, it was a buggy disaster, we rushed that one out of the gates, was a massive flop, We did that to make out "dream" game, though our developers didn't even know what type of game they were making until we told the world at the E3, it was a surprise to them as well, we rushed that one out of the gate but again we disappointed our player base, it was a giant flop, we nearly had to close there! We then began to make Dragon Age Dread wolf, a live service game, online only, that enraged our fans of Dragon Age who wanted a new RPG, so we can't F it up this time, now made this. Looks good, let's release it".

[@rodrigozzzz8198]

@@Jorendo This is because you never saw how they butchered "The Old Republic". It seemed almost on purpose.

[@hatsoff4524]

They literally have the HR team held the writing team at gunpoint, telling them to not offend characters

[@Ewil.Bluetooth]

One look at the Director interview and it would be obvious that he wouldn't be able to make a normal game.

[@Ewil.Bluetooth]

​@@hatsoff4524No HR needed when that guy is in charge.

[@steeldragon9041]

Keep in mind, they made Dragon age 2 in only one and a half years. Yet for 9 years of development we get veilgaurd.

[@healsallwounds]

It wasn’t nine years. BioWare pissed away like five years trying to cobble together Anthem, only for it to flop tremendously.

[@steeldragon9041]

​@@healsallwounds still DA2 is LEAGUES better than vielgaurd in less than half the time

[@JwaaT5oh3]

Shows the difference between old BioWare and woke incompetent BioWare.

[@rawrdino7046]

What about inquisition?

[@xiii0722]

​@@steeldragon9041Definitely seems that way, kinda ridiculous. And then decisions like removing the feature to switch between party members... So many stupid decisions must have been made there.

[@norsefirefighter]

“You like what you like, don’t have to prove it to anyone” but god damn they will gaslight you for just disagreeing with them and not liking the same things.

[@Metaldude-th1rte3n]

In Baldurs gate 3 there’s a dilophosaur in the circus of the last chapter. If you use animal speaking spell or potion you can hear his story and his dialogue is more interesting than everything I saw coming out of veilguard’s characters

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

A random rat in BG3 has more character depth than these cartoons

[@leviticusprime4904]

@@RRRRRRRRR33a fucking cow has more character than any of the bozos in DA:V

[@ArDeeMee]

He‘s such a sweet little guy, too. Even if you don’t use Speak with Animals at all, he seems so much more tame and relaxed after the feeding.

[@bmbrowns1778]

@@RRRRRRRRR33 The craziest part about this is its completely true. Random animals in BG3 that most players haven't even spoken to are better written and voiced than anyone in Veilguard. Absolutely crazy

[@syloui]

I respect their commitment to that

[@Bjorn_R]

Whoever wrote this game should have made a game about troubled teenagers on summer school in the woods. I guess the group therapy vibe could have made sense there..

[@oponomo]

Actually, you managed to see the good in the bad! Great job sir! (or sirrette)

[@jastinellyson8733]

This is what happens when trannies make shit. Try to appeal to kids and self project in everything.

[@jjc5871]

I think that game is called The Quarry. Not sure how troubled they were though. Before getting eaten alive that is.

[@JoaoVictor-rg5ix]

​@@jjc5871Kinda troubled. The werewolves disagreed thought.

[@dommer4killdx834]

You've got it all wrong Act Man. BioWare didn't make this game. A company named BioWare did. The people at BioWare that were responsible for games like Mass Affect 1-3 and the Dragon Age games are gone. They either left when things like Anthem and Andromeda were what was being worked on or got laid off. They're all dust in the wind now, and new people have come to fill their roles now that the dust has settled. This game never had a chance to be anything like any other BioWare game because BioWare didn't make it.

[@plazmadood]

This is the major takeaway from this and other shitty sequels I wish people would grasp. The developers you loved have long since moved on, these people are puppetting the company name and relying on your love and nostalgia to push half-baked and poorly written garbage out like this for a quick buck.

[@insensitive919]

Bioware hasn't been the same since Greg Zeschuk left to make craft beer in Edmonton.

[@tinminator8905]

@@plazmadoodPoorly written, yes. Half baked, no. Love it or hate it you can clearly tell this is a game that took a long time to make. There are kilometers of carefully designed environments. Dozens of optional quests that aren’t just lazy “gather material” chores. Dozens of hours of voiced dialogue. An insane level of polish with almost no bugs. I 100% agree that this is not Dragon age and there are tons of reason to shit on it. But there were people who genuinely tried.

[@nowsmile790]

People often don’t understand That most of the people that worked on their games almost all of them are probably gone either retired or moved to a different company a while ago. The only thing that really has remained the same is the company name and the logo.

[@mantequilia2016]

Exactly the same can be said about Bethesda most of the original team is long gone and have been replaced by people who want nothing to do with the original titles or want to change it completely

[@joshuapatrick682]

Larian is the “new BioWare” and 10-20 years from now Studio X will be the “new Larian”.

[@Slomoshun4u]

The shit that irks me the most is the freaking "journalists" that blindly supported this game because of the message while completely ignoring or avoiding the writing

[@BullyMaguire42069]

its almost like the gaming media has been compromised for years and gamergate happened for a valid reason

[@QuiteFunnyIsnt1t]

@@BullyMaguire42069 Maguire..do you realize how dumb you sound saying that? it didnt happen for a "VALID REASON", people were just being actually just RACIST,MYSOGONISTIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE. nothing can JUSTIFY or SAY that gamergate was A GOOD THING. you need to critize stuff through whatever your seeing with but instead for the product.

[@Thanatos2k]

@@QuiteFunnyIsnt1t No, you have swallowed the misinformation.

[@eyesofdeathperception6730]

​@@QuiteFunnyIsnt1t Gamergate wasn't originally made for political purposes. At least not back then. It was created because of journalist corruption. It's far more different and sad today. But it did have a genuine reason to exist back then.

[@Lizzardtong]

@@eyesofdeathperception6730 like all things that meant well....whatever is in charge now corrupted the original goal into a worse version of itself.

[@GlobalOutcast]

I cant even listen to the dialogue in this game, it makes me wanna tear my ears off like Piccolo when Gohan whistles

[@nemesisofeden]

A beautiful analogy

[@TheActMan]

I give you an A+ on the reference

[@pokeman123451]

This game makes me want to eat Icarus

[@kien9350]

Picolob: WHAT?!

[@tanelviil9149]

​@@TheActMan "You Either Die a Hero, or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become the Villain" whats wrong actma`am cant say the word??? ---W --------O -------------K -------------------E You wanted this, you asked for more... here you go .... have fun with games like that __________________________ I'm just glad i turned my back to those companies a long time ago. i play cool games not some _ OKE trash

[@jesperburns]

13:05 One of the most basic rules of writing. Don't repeat back/deny verbatim what has been said. Usually you'd write. "You were destroying the world" "I was merely trying to save it" or something.

[@TheFatalcrest]

"You were destroying the world" "I'm the only one truly seeking to save it!"

[@christiandelcarmen1278]

@@TheFatalcrest. my personal choice would be more like: “You’re destroying the world!” “I’m the only one who’s willing to do whatever it takes to save it!”

[@brunishka]

But that interrstin instrument. People can and will lie, especially to themself.

[@TheFatalcrest]

@@christiandelcarmen1278 I agree, very nice indeed 👍

[@bernderbernder3087]

There are some obvious exceptions to this rule-- like a character who is talking down to you- or mocking you, gaslighting you into thinking you're crazy for even posing the idea. "You were destroying the world." "*You* *THINK* I was '*destroying* the world?' Such extreme language from someone who doesn't have the *NERVE* to do what it takes!"

[@Themalusdarkblade]

the writers definitely got their degree from a cereal box, very cringe! Makes me question Mass effect 5

[@Tochi68]

The biggest issue I notice in most entertainment spaces is toxic positivity. Many creators and consumers are so averse to criticism that we end up with bland, uninspired products. Even worse, some extremists go so far as to gaslight themselves and others into believing the product to be the best thing ever, engaging in endless arguments with strangers online to defend it.

[@thatoneguy8146]

Marvel and its effect on entertainment

[@mrmoviemanic1]

The Bioware discord is filled with people telling me all the time that DAV is an improvement on everything and DAO is very “old” and “outdated” I get these are hardcore fans but it’s like hardcore fans in the same vein circlejerk and say that the previous games have problems that this one doesn’t. Plus they just try hard to force everyone else to see things a certain way and if you don’t then your kinda considered a problem. Bioware employees really shouldn’t rely on places like this as the games they want to make for. (FYI, the place isn't all bad, a lot of people do genuinely care and like pretty much all the games. But it's the outliers that get people stired up that tend to be more a factor, even then they're not insurrable, just tend to parrot)

[@ZaWardo151]

So pretty much what Star Wars fans do Except that they can both be toxic to the fandom and ruin it for others, or sometimes they’re a little bit more forgiving, and a live and live policy is usually around But when you got some of those creators that are just there they tend to lean to one side and stick with it

[@BuryTheLight-tds]

​@@ZaWardo151True, both sides are equally as bad as the other.

[@lutherheggs451]

No different than the lower IQ brain dead who cry about everything being woke and some pathetic "woke agenda" to take over gaming when it involves other than white manly men and only da weemonz you can fap to

[@TevyaSmolka]

It’s kind of sad dragon age in this sad state because as a huge dragon age fan this game should’ve been slam dunk but man oh man the execution was so disappointing in my opinion.

[@TheActMan]

absolutely

[@TevyaSmolka]

@ indeed and heck I beat the game myself this week and after beating it as a whole even though I don’t think it’s that bad of a game, from Dragon age fan myself this game felt like they took dragon age elements out for a generic story taking care of elven gods instead of solas which is confusing because solas should’ve been main villain from the very start but nope it’s instead of other villains who aren’t interesting as solas which is so disappointing in my opinion, as for gameplay it was boring and repetitive with the same enemies over and over which isn’t fun but just boring and generic at least in my opinion.

[@amberhernandez]

A decade of development hell + the revolving door of upper BioWare staff, particularly the loss of creative leads, put me on edge well before the game was announced. It's like hearing the phrase "extensive reshoots."

[@BoneRazrK]

@@TevyaSmolka Thanks for sharing your experience with the game! I've been a fan since Origins and have had varying degrees of enjoyment with the sequels. Something about this game has turned me off it though. I might pick it up next year on a Summer Steam Sale discount.

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@BoneRazrK your welcome and I can understand that and honestly if you do pick it up I do hope you enjoy it more then I did, because at the end of the day we all have are own opinions, oh by the way I also reviewed this game on my channel as well if you want to check it out when you have time of course there’s no rush take your time.

[@jonathanabgrall6075]

Whoever wrote Taash needs to find a new job, like desperately.

[@aWraithsSoul]

No. Please keep them unemployed forever.

[@dodgsonwevegotdodgsonhere9970]

Whoever wrote Taash should not be allowed anywhere near another piece of media entertainment in the next 50 years.

[@gorillagroddgaming]

They’ll probably join the 41% before they find another job 😂

[@bobbydyne]

Hopefully just putting the fries in the bag

[@MelonGearSolid]

They need to seek a therapist and speak to their parents 😂😂😂😂

[@leonald723]

Everyone in this game looks so sleepy, even characters themselves are bored with the game world they are in, lol

[@MoreImbaThanYou]

The game was planned as a live service. And it shows. The level design, the ability system, the combat, the stiff leftover animations. Everything just screams "I was a coop action-slasher once!"

[@snil4]

And then came Concord...

[@KisekiFan]

Its EA, recall they said that Single Player games are dying and Live Service MMO is the way forward.

[@Shadowseer7930]

EA just can't accept that every game won't earn FIFA money ​@@KisekiFan

[@robertagren9360]

Trailer is for an online game.

[@jjc5871]

Lmao I completely forgot about that.

[@aaronbood1999]

If this is the level of writing in modern bioware games, i don't want mass effect 5 to happen.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

But... but... member Shepard?? How he saved the galaxy, member? Member Garrus? Member the blue alien ladies??

[@aperson3996]

Eh, tbf, I think the only people from the Dragon Age Veilguard team that will be working on ME5 are the actual devs and animators, everyone else will be a new team. The lead narritive director I heard has a pretty good of projects similar to Mass Effect under her belt. And theres Mark Gamble, so Im a bit more hopeful that they can actually deliver. But who knows still gotta wait amd see

[@declancampbell1277]

@@aperson3996 they've consolidated the Veilguard team into the ME5 team, so its not promising. The leads are different in a lot of places, so there's a chance they can see the terrible writing and rip the writers a new one, but im not hopeful considering the culture of "toxic positivity" in dev teams these days.

[@Jorendo]

I don't get why you would think that after Veilguard. You should be worried about Mass Effect 5 after the disaster that was Andromeda. That one alone showed Bioware didn't know how to make a proper Mass Effect game anymore.

[@aperson3996]

@@declancampbell1277 i mean, I really don’t see how the dev teams having a lot of the same effects anything. Where do you think all of the decisions for the narritive of Veilgaurd came from? The narrative team, which will be a completely different team. The devs will mostly be the ones actually coding and making the game. And say what you will about Andromeda, but I could tell the Turians were Turians, the Salarians were Salarians, ect.

[@BoxingDawg]

My biggest gripe is the use of modern words in a medieval "Dark" fantasy game. Hearing the word "coffee"and the twitter slang and their way of expressing and talking instead of using medieval words and slang and accents... is so immersion breaking. I couldn't imagine characters in Game of thrones talking like that "Christmas is coming ... "

[@eastbow6053]

Coffee bigoted nobinary etc etc many words like this

[@marlonbrando1631]

I think there is a balance to be struck. While it is tempting to just replace most terms referring to IRL things, or to completely change how people talk, this may make the world far less comprehensible. Everyone knows what coffee or tea is, and making people talk in a certain way may make it difficult to actually comprehend what is said and described. At the same time, going the other way and making everything to be too familiar takes away from the fantasy element. Imagine if Shrek 2 tried to be serious.

[@CorinneO.O]

​@@marlonbrando1631they clrearly done it right in Origins.and with coffee? Geez they could use "he drinks potions/tonics/brews/elixirs/infusions/mixtures/philters/serums to stay awake" it's not that hard to find words that fits the world

[@markBalentine123567]

because they are not giving you a game but brainwashing disguise as a "game"

[@stormsabre22]

@@marlonbrando1631 This is so pedantic. They we're able to strike the balance before and sell 12 million copies 10 years ago so what changed ?

[@fyshfysh1281]

This reminds me of the latest saints row just in a fantasy world. Also, fyi this game is rated M when there is no blood, nudity, or cursing.

[@asarishepard8171]

Its rated m for " ma'am!"😂

[@AjMorganv16]

Dialogue Written like they had HR in the room the entire time

[@evansinclair1999]

Luke was a real one for that analysis 😂

[@Darkeus1]

​@@evansinclair1999That was SkillUp. Austin specifically.

[@RoyaltonDrummer922]

Bro you just stole that comment from Skill Up

[@Crispifordthe3rd515]

HR and the DEI 💀

[@evansinclair1999]

@@RoyaltonDrummer922 oh yeah it was skill up not Luke 😂 however how did he “steal” a comment Ralph didn’t copy right the description it’s not patented

[@TheDovahkinia]

Side characters in Elden Ring have a few lines of dialogue and they are still more compelling, touching and emotional than this entire game

[@s0meRand0m129]

Rya?

[@Critter97]

Hollow Knight as well

[@celwenileran2135]

Hyetta :(

[@ishaanmurarka9082]

Not just side characters. Even the dogs and imps leave a more memorable impression than this whole game.

[@dragontear1638]

There's a nearly-dead man that *really* hates a particular drake that leaves a strong impression in Shadow of the Erdtree. I'm confident anybody reading this will know who.

[@BrendanStuart]

The lead character writer 100% has father issues. Everything Taash says to its mother is everything the writer wishes they had the balls to say to their daddy

[@racingraptor4758]

His... Don't play pdf writers crazy game

[@whoozeybeat2531]

@@racingraptor4758 i dont even think he has gender dysphoria he just wants to be "special"

[@redneckrambo9626]

Bold of you to assume to that thing had a daddy

[@LoneWolfFromEast]

It's her, therefore it's she, not they.

[@evakhaan]

@@LoneWolfFromEast and now we should all do 10 push-ups so that this dude doesn’t cry?

[@Nathan-ez1wo]

I don’t understand why every game is trying to make it seem like there are no stakes by making characters act like they are goofing off around town

[@KatallinaVT]

Because people have stopped being willing to grow up in the real world--see the non-ironic use of the word adulting--and as such stories where you do something serious are no longer relatable to them.

[@threestars2164]

Marvel movies

[@SeanTxty]

"I know there are ancient Gods threatening the whole world, but everyone seems really distracted with their personal issues like their gender identity. I think it would be best if we resolve these things before worrying about the threat to the existence of the whole world."

[@Edax_Royeaux]

Marvel, Disney, DC.

[@nielsB_FPV]

It's the Marvelisation of media. Every character is a smart mouthing goofball, and that fucking sucks

[@Nerbit13098]

The art style is easily my biggest problem. What's annoying is that it's not like you can't have serious/darker moments with a cartoonish art style. As you mentioned, look at Fable. First game starts with the town getting razed, and then the sequel has your sister literally getting gunned down next to you. Whereas in Veilguard, the art style being as cartoony as it is just ends up reinforcing its less serious tone than previous games

[@Chris-ih3ke]

I legit thought the Darkspawn in Veilguard were Fortnite enemies or GMOD workshop creations than anything from Dragon Age at first.

[@xxtheblockxx]

Can You Beat Veilguard While Taking The Story Seriously?

[@ArDeeMee]

@@xxtheblockxx (Difficulty Impossible)

[@leoncoben6983]

Yeah but the issue is, no Dragon Age fan wants that shift. It doesn't matter how well they pull it off, we want more of what Origins and 2 did. Dark, gritty, serious, with an art style that comes off as sharp and harsh like a sword. They keep changing the art style every game, and every time everyone keeps saying they should've stuck with Origins, ESPECIALLY WITH THE DARKSPAWN. It's like Origins entire art style was crafted _after_ they were done with the Darkspawn designs because they _never_ look natural to the universe. They're not ugly in the sense of "terrifying monster" they're ugly in "what the hell am I looking at" because they're some horrible mix of horror and cartoon. A cartoony style will never fit because Dragon Age goes all in on doom and gloom and despair. You're supposed to feel on edge, like something is wrong with the world.

[@snil4]

Personal bias but also the Xenoblade series, it might look like this fun and silly anime adventure with it's art style and some of it's quirky events but every one of these games starts right off with a huge tragedy and this tragedy is what moves you forward to see what happens in the story.

[@LEOvsMAO]

Also, it COULD be a good Dragon Age game, but I read on Wikipedia, that EA decided to move Creative Director of all Dragon Age franchise to work on Anthem, and rebooted development of Dragon Age with a Creative Director of Sims franchise. Can you understand the level of STUPIDITY - move your experienced vision owner from one of the main IP to half-dead service game, and give away your millions dollar IP about dark fantasy to a Sims Designer!

[@dr_diddy]

yh when I learned the sims director was the lead for DAV... it all made sense 😭

[@Wulfspyder]

Is there even a team on Anthem anymore or is it dead dead yet?

[@irenes7115]

ea is sinking fast

[@luukthijssen4917]

Wtf is Anthem?

[@lutherheggs451]

Its hilarious when sad pathetic people feel the need to actually make up weird fantasy stories. Especially after its a well known FACT that EA wasn't on board with Anthem after they saw Bioware was struggling to make it and that it was FACTUALLY Bioware who completely and totally wanted to make Anthem... Ahhh man if only these weird pathetic people actually looked into things like facts before they invented weird BS stories

[@BarokaiRein]

The weirdest thing about having no recap at all is that even if you played and finished Dragon Age Inquisition, you might have no fucking idea about what's going on here because there's a pretty big chance that you didn't play the Trespasser DLC. Like, looking at achievement data, a lot of the people who actually finished Inquisition just never went back for the DLCs, and probably assumed that Bioware didn't do all the setup for the sequel within a single DLC.

[@reignmans]

isabela in DA 2 : dooms a city to death because she wanted to steal a book and she stole it. isabela in DAV : oh let me take 10 push ups cuz i messed up with your pronouns

[@guyonyoutube501]

It's funny how Veilguard is so bad that everyone now tells DA2: "Perhaps I've treated you too harshly."

[@Quiet_Winter]

Because it was never that bad, is it worse than the first one? Sure, but still it was enjoyable, and i get that it can be a repetative to do the same things in the same place but still​ the storywas good, and all things considered, it was as good as it can be due to time constraints and how rushed it was, literallya game made in year and a half with cut script better than a full time developmentin 2024 with massive budget, embarrassing, amd more choices too lmao @guyonyoutube501

[@ShrimpEmporium]

It’s so fcking annoying. Being a queer person, it pisses me off so much. Because people see this crap and begin to hate all of us. Just know that the majority of us are actually normal

[@matheuzinog]

​@@ShrimpEmporium dude YES!! I always say this. The pink money culture is making ppl hate us even more it sucks

[@koagz]

And the funny thing is she didn't even do 10 so she half-assed it which makes her look like she doesn't care then continues to ramble about how not to make it about yourself for 5 minutes instead of just saying "I'm sorry" and being done with it.

[@F0XRunner]

And yet all the major outlets proclaimed this game was a 9/10. This game just shows how much of a farce professional game and movie reviews have become.

[@jackrodriguez3404]

Nothing to do with woke agendas right 😂 ?

[@mikester4896]

@@jackrodriguez3404 No, just the usual "We'll pay you to make a positive review so we can sell more copies" agenda. IGN are notorious for this which is why every FIFA and COD game get consistently decent ratings even though it's obvious that they're mediocre at best compared to their older games.

[@jackrodriguez3404]

@@mikester4896 shut up that’s why concord got a 7 instead of a 3 or 5 ? I don’t understand why you clowns want to pretend woke agenda isn’t a thing when people like sweet baby inc will tell you themselves 🤦‍♂️

[@mobiusoneplays3218]

@@jackrodriguez3404No, it has everything to do with money. The woke agenda you’re looking for is just an excuse for your kind to forget big reviewers are beholden to advertisers and the game publishers themselves.

[@hoobadoobamaster8551]

​@mikester4896 makes sense... WAITso why do they rate actual good ganes with none of that stuff as mediorce if theyre not reuly bias

[@stygames5450]

As a Canadian, I apologize for BioWare. They do not represent us as a whole (at least, I hope not).

[@TheActMan]

you're one of the good ones

[@J01789]

You mean apologize for Bioware?

[@zeked4200]

You didn't say "eh" or mention maple syrup once. How do we know you're really Canadian?

[@GtheMVP]

Modern Bioware is the perfect representation of Trudeau's Canada. It's almost scary how their downfall timeline matches Canada's lol.

[@stygames5450]

@@J01789Fixed it.

[@werbearjack]

Most of the things you mentioned - including Taash - just stem from one single source: Veilguard has no patience to be an RPG. I just recruited "the mage slayer". He has a demon inside himself but it apparently not possessed. Can we talk about that when recruiting him? No. The dungeon he was in can not be entered again after completing it and I missed a chest in it. After the boss fight there is a moment of silence where you can "do things before moving on" which literally just means loot the boss room. Can you return to the rest of the dungeon? No. Can you talk about the demon inside your new friend now? No. After moving on we go to the family of our new friend - inside a cutscene, of course - and his mother/leader has been killed. The cutscene does not stop and moves us along back to our main base. All we do to address the demon is see how our new companion struggles to contain him and then just take his word that everything is ok. When we finally regain control of our character we can have 1 (exactly one) brief conversation with our new recruit where he talks about drinking a lot of coffee so he sleeps less because of the demon. And that's it, please move on to collect the next party member, we have no time for characters of world building, we need to complete the party so we can show you the next setpiece! After a few hours Veilguard's plot feels like it is constantly hurrying you along - not because the world is in danger but because we have a schedule to keep and all this RPG stuff is standing in the way of that.

[@whocares5195]

Dragon Age Veilguard is a PG game in an R rated universe.

[@Hope4NewDay1]

Disney would love these writers and directors... Look what they did to my boy Carnage.

[@ericjensen7580]

It puts the PG in RPG

[@1NotN]

@@Hope4NewDay1 Carnage is not in a Disney movie, all the Spider-Man villain spin off movies are made by Sony 100%. If you were referencing a Spider-Man film might have a point in that case, because while they are all made by Sony MCU writing is done by Disney's Marvel.

[@Spyash2]

Y'know what really bothers me about this game the most? We got a THIRD of content that was originally planned to be in this game. The game was supposed to be a lot longer too; the opening scene where Rook interrupts the ritual? That was supposed to lead to the third act in the original concept. And in the original concept, the New Divine would have called an exalted March on Solas after he gathered all the elves in one place with the intent of taking down the veil. Rook would have been part of the Inquisition and followed the orders of the Inquisitor. We finally would have met The Warden from Origins again. We would have learned that the person we left in the fade is still alive, (only much older due to the time difference in the fade), as we would have gotten stuck in the fade and would have had them rescue, and escape the fade with us, which meant we potentially could have had the Warden, Alistair and Morrigan in one place again. We would have had to prevent a war between the Tervinter Imperium and Quinari, orchestrated by Solas, and we would have known what the red lyrium idol artefact from Dragon Age 2 is meant to be in Veilguard after Solas uses Blood Magic to cleanse it: it's the dagger he uses in the opening act of the game.

[@Flesh_Wizard]

That would have been incredible. If they got the gameplay and world down too it would have been better than Inquisition

[@rzr0015]

The same thing happened to dying light 2. Some woman falsely accusing the games lead writer of the diddy, made us all miss the real vision he had for the game😢

[@MrWaffel]

That would explain why there's (almost?) no mention of The Faith or The Maker or Andraste in Veilguard.

[@Spyash2]

@@MrWaffel Yeah. We also would have had a mobile underwater base in the form of a whale. Only a part of it made it into the final product, though. It's one of the rooms you can visit in the fade.

[@KeytarArgonian]

In Mass Effect, really by Mass Effect 3, BioWare had perfected the voice acting process because they would have the actors listen to the lines read by the character/actor they were interacting with. So when Jen Hale is delivering those lines with Anderson at the end of ME:3 she got genuinely choked up at Keith David’s performance and they kept it in. That brief conversation is THE best piece of Dialogue Bioware ever recorded in my opinion, and it hasn’t been matched since because they don’t do this practice any more.

[@cheez3184]

Its the best way to record voice lines in any game tbh, feels more natural and doesn't sound like two robots having a prompt conversation.

[@aeraaureliawashereonce]

This is a good practice. I'll take note of it for later

[@harveyfox6856]

See we have committed to going full grifter huh?

[@carrottopevans]

Larian taking over KOTOR like they did for Baldur’s Gate, even for one game, is a dream. Imagine that depth in the Star Wars universe. Hell, any universe they’re passionate about will benefit from their touch

[@dindjarin8816]

Well don't forget who owns star wars you really think they allow a product with the quality of BS3 no you will only end up with star wars outlaw from now on .

[@AC-ce3tj]

Yes, especially if they would hire Chris Avellone to write it. But it seems that everybody is now avoiding to hire Avellone since the fake accusations against him, even though his accusers admitted that they lied after he has filed in a libel case in court. I want more games written by Chris Avellone. It is so sad to see maybe the best video game writer be canceled in that way.

[@neoduke007]

OMG that would be epic, imagine a KOTOR 3 by Larian, it's perfect too as KOTOR while real-time with pause played a lot more like a turnbased combat system so it would be great to have Larian take on a KOTOR game. Or better yet if Larian can figure out how to achieve real-time with pause for their combat system

[@Photonkannon]

Pls god yes. My body is ready. 🤤

[@delta2372]

Ok baring the fact that KOTOR 3 can't happen because of the EU not being canon anymore and that KOTOR 3 died because of a stupid MMO (SWOTOR) I honestly don't want larian touching KOTOR, baulders gate 3 already has allot of the wokeness that veilguard has and i don't want KOTOR to be touched by that, I'm already weary about this apparent space RPG they are working on. Before I get blasted, baulders gate 3 is as woke as veilguard but doesn't have as bad of dialogue, the main issues with baulders gate 3 (barring the silliness of things like black elves in when elvs apart from drow have always been pale skin and fair hair) all stema from the end of act 2 and the vast majority of act 3 with what I'm talking about. Act 1 some of it is present but act 1 has enough quality content that you can overlook it and you can ignore it if you want to. Act 3 though? ehhh it's a little hard to ignore it.

[@MichaelB-jw5po]

"Like that time you ditched your orders for a better strategy during a darkspawn attack" Yeah, that's how people talk about shared past events with each other, sure

[@TheActMan]

Bruh I was laughing so hard

[@EripmavsDYraid]

That sounds like it'd lead into a Family Guy cutaway gag.

[@johnrivers5798]

Why was Dragon Age Origins so awesome?!!

[@-_El_Pollo_Loco_-]

So i have a theory, could it be that they wanted veilguard as a mmo/live service game, and that baldur's gate 3 made them go back to making it solo ?

[@anaguma90]

Josh Strife Hayes just did a really good DA:O retrospective.

[@Xeakquh]

​@@-_El_Pollo_Loco_-that's not even a theory they restarted Veilguards development like 3 times 2 of which were going to be live service titles iirc.

[@Dragonage2ftw]

It wasn’t.

[@Greendeath312]

It was awesome don’t listen to the recent comment

[@OfnionGidnir]

This is a good example of a company not knowing how to make good use of left politics in a game. BG3 and Helldivers 2 are good examples of how to do it perfectly.

[@Punk_CiTy]

What leftist politics are in Helldivers 2?

[@OfnionGidnir]

@@Punk_CiTy The whole game is basically a satire of totalitarian fascist regimes and war propaganda, just like the movie Starship Troopers.

[@Punk_CiTy]

@@OfnionGidnir Ah, sensible leftist politics. Thanks for the information.

[@gregogrady8027]

@@OfnionGidnir You don't seem to have ever actually read the book for Starship troopers did you?

[@yabadabadu8171]

Why does any game have to be about politics? It’s fucking entertainment media, where politics don’t have any place…that’s why I hate video game industry today

[@jazzyzjas9701]

Taash the Trash is 100% a self insert.

[@AngelicImp8641]

A self insert of a sexual predator, as a matter of fact.

[@foulXD]

I wouldn't have minded Taash being non binary that much, if she would've been written well. but her whole personality ARE her pronouns. yes, I said HER, because I think the term "non binary" is silly.

[@andresbogado7133]

@@foulXD Non binary in a medieval world lmao.

[@foulXD]

@@andresbogado7133 its so immersion breaking. taash is 100% a self insert from some weird dev. 💀

[@lutherheggs451]

@@foulXD Man you must really hate Balder's Gate 3 then with its pronouns and ability to create a trans character with a huge dong

[@PlusOneGamer]

The build up to the Brood Mother in Dragon Age Origins was hands down one of the most horrific moments of a game I've ever experienced. I can't imagine ever experiencing something like that in a triple A game anymore. Now the most horrific things in games are the cringe inducing dialogue.

[@Yodalemos]

tbh I think BioWare nailed it even before then with the reveal of Sion in KotOR 2. Oh wait nevermind that was Obsidian.

[@Flesh_Wizard]

The air of unease was thick enough to be cut with a sword

[@thesupreme8062]

In general the whole deep roads was sick

[@tufcat92]

For sure. Having the rhyme be spoken by the surviving dwarf as you're getting closer was a very nice touch

[@Rem-753]

I think a current BioWare dev said in an interview that the quest A Mother's Hope (Filda & Ruck) was too dark for their taste...one of the few quests in origins that has no "good" outcome, between mercy killing the son, letting them both get lost in the deep roads forever, or lying to a grieving mother

[@leonsqueezy8691]

"Thanks to Taash " "That's why we recruited HER "

[@qasimishtiaq8930]

Her?

[@TheActMan]

UMMMMMMM 😡

[@SolusWhite]

How dare you get it wrong!!! "That's why we were FORCED to recruit her" get it right lol.

[@howser5826]

@@qasimishtiaq8930 F***ING PRONOUNS

[@Lohengrin88]

​@qasimishtiaq8930 that's 10 push-ups for you 😂

[@AFloatingTaco]

Yo this guy is amazing. From the Luigi’s mansion background music to the humor, quality content. Looking forward to your future work.

[@deg3309]

"Like they've taken all the edge out of Dragon Age. Like it's gone soft." That's a great way to describe it, actually. Dragon Age with rounded corners and no objects small enough to be a choking hazard for infants

[@IIIKobra]

*You Laugh You Loose Challenge, Written Format* **HR VILLAFIED** *A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUCEMENT BEGINS* "DRAGON AGE IS LIKE ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION! We have a problem. Now that I've got the chatting rooms attention. Unwanted Flops! Why are they happening? I've something to announce, Not getting what we asked for, or expected from this sequel it's just soft. Here's why: "The time finally came! The knock at the door! You grab the package from the mailman at the back sliding door, you lay on the couch, thinking you're in for a rock solid, fun with the family night. Taking turns on what has always been a single player game. You anticipate an experience of immense revived joy, able to penetrate your soul and tickle your nostalgia at the same time, and then bam! You're suddenly hit with the realization of a floppy disc not capable of a "return to form". A flaccid husk of its former glory in fact. After all is said and done it just leaves you feeling sorry for whoever owns this junk in front of your eyes. You can't help but feel partially responsible for the result. After an elongated waiting period, It's just unfortunate to be stuck with this as their re-entry point offering. This is what they brought to the table? A floppy disc? The balls on them... Butt then you realize, This is a joke. At the end of the day you don't even need to take it the hard way really, who cares if its underperforming! You feel me yet? So take the load off yourselves, lets get this mess cleaned up, we'll bounce back stronger than ever!, lets get our minds focused on the right spot, lets grasp onto hope, firmly, with both hands, so this beautiful IPP may rise again someday. IPP* damn i think the PP button just broke again on my keyboard it isn't working PProperly. It keePPs doubling, any helPP on fixing my PP would be aPPPPreciated". "Back on track now, seriously though, That's Dragon Age Veilguards' writing on a nut shell. They are incapable of discretely hinting anything without unnecessarily dangling the obvious bits, directly in front of your face! Everything is always laid bare with them, the mystery is gone, We don't want our eyes to be seared looking at this again. It was complete sensory overload they flash banged us, literally. They want every orifice of the game, filled to the brim, with their 'progressive magic'. Its literally shoved down your throat at this point. With all these holes filled up with the same 'magic' shit everywhere, there was no more room to fit expansive quality anymore. It just doesn't feel the same as it used to. How do we pull out from this?" "Butt then I remembered, It's too late. its launched already. The ship sailed. To make matters worse many are not even allowed to touch or talk about the ppproducts contents at their own pace either, Nobody else is playing right now, this isn't right. The general public don't understand what is happening at all. This wasn't designed for them, don't they get that? And yet they're acting out, They tried to tell us what to do for years prior, like, sure whatever. Now their all banned for being annoyingly based, we even had to ban The Lich King and all of his roaches from one of our Subreddits preemptively. Act Mans Sweeping waves of doxxes to all of subrettors family members almost railed us, BUTT FUCK EM! If we go soft and let them back in the door with these evil truths things will get worse. Its all their fault to begin with for not devouring the contents that we wanted them too! All they had to do was line their sheep up to receive our product and we had the wool in the bag. *Hundreds of glaring eyes pierce from across the room* "Oh my aPPologies, I forgot we hosted this at an APPPPlebee's for a second there. We'll try and keep the language to a minimum, I'll wrap it up, StuPPid keyboards on the fritz again anyway. I hoPPe you got the meat and PPotatos of what I was trying to expressively reveal to you. You didn't? welPP, stePP bros, I'm stuck on how to show you a clearer presentation then this. Perhaps I should have been more transparent and listened to outside demands". "Who woulda guessed at the beginning that stePP bro was also Your mail man though"! -someone yelled from the back. "APPologies, I don't have time to address that, I Get its important context but we need to move on, My time is up". "I formally welcome you to , Electronic Arts, text to speech, orientation day briefing. Your dinner and travel expenses are covered by us, there's a tab running at the bar. We look forward to you sliding right into the PPositions advertised, you'll fit PPerfectly in our recently exhumed company Bioware, I promise you. Time to heal this damaged, free flow PPipeline. We need the creative juices flowing through the company as a hole again. I will not repeat my self on saying this again, we need a mass effect from this operation. Thank you for your time, Enjoy your evening". "Ahem... uh, everyone PPut your hands together for CEO Andrew Wilson?... with his opening speech tonight titled [How To Leave Important Context Out of A Story So People Get Confused As Shit Trying To Figure Out What The Fuck Is Actually Happening Behind The Scenes]. Welcome to the new players RPG experience. We need to take a short technical time out to PProperly fix this damn key board, the PProgram will resume shortly". Asmon and Act Man, I wish I had the editing skills to make this into a mystifying video for you both and your chats but atlas not to be. Your channels sourced me laughter in some of the darkest years of my life. Now that my life's taken a turn for the better I just want pay it forward to you both somehow, I hope ya'll can be assed to read all this this one day. I hope you get laugh from it. Love from Australia way.

[@jackrodriguez3404]

If only there was a word describing this phenomenon exactly…. Like wokeness and it’s political correctness ( you know things not having edges )

[@Flesh_Wizard]

Time to start edging our games again

[@colebaptista772]

I’m from Edmonton Canada and will gladly drive on our dangerously snowy roads right now to go to the BioWare building and slap everyone

[@skbproject5589]

Watch out they'll worship Satan and touch your no no places

[@darcrequiem]

You sir are a gentleman and a scholar.

[@cipher01]

@@skbproject5589 wtf lol

[@powderhounds77]

Blows my mind that BioWare is in Edmonton of all places, need to send those pussies to the patch for a few years.

[@Celestiusify]

isn't the studio that make Bioware games now is based in US now?

[@lethalramen]

It only feels like they removed the "Evil" choices because they didn't want people to bully Taash. Imagine being able to misgender her in every dialogue choice that she ends up leaking your party or something worse lmao. It just shows how unconfident they were with their writing, so they steered away from any realistic character interactions (like disagreements) in favor of severe toxic positivity.

[@TheSchnieder6]

They didn't include choices like that because then that would be them "endorsing" those views/actions. It's heresy to the cult.

[@XFGHL78E]

@@TheSchnieder6 I always like how they view these things. "People can die in the dozens if not hundreds base on your actions, but you better not use the wrong word when addressing people- because apparently that is worse."

[@btadlock1]

no they removed the evil choices because you are playing rook and they are not evil. lmfao couldnt be very evil with hawk or the warden either.

[@helikos1]

Act Man hit the nail on the head with her and it's a major problem with people today. Their entire personality is wrapped about being gay or whatever. They don't have anything else about them. I've encountered many homosexual people from all walks of life and with many of them I didn't even know they were, because they had more of themselves than just their sexuality which isn't my business anyway.

[@veleseth1371]

@@btadlock1 The fuck you mean the warden couldnt be evil You can be the most fucked up guy in origins there ever was from murdering wounded soliders,killing,sacrificing children,being racist,betraying your companions killing them on spot after defiling the ashes of a god etc. In Origins you could be a fucked up person,the most evil from the games Ive played aside from Tyranny from Paradox because that one lets you choke a newborn in its crib and you start by playing as an evil guy and go from there ah good game good times

[@RantersRevenge]

Does anyone remember when Act Ma'am defended this game and hyped it up before it came out? Pepperidge Farms Remembers....

[@mickethegoblin7167]

Did he? Rip

[@djukor]

What rustled my jimmies the most is when they developers stated how they finally made the combat in a dragon age fun. The implication Being that the older games ware not fun because they ware tactical strategy RPGs and not action games whit Pro wrestling moves or marvel super hero moves in a fantasy setting.

[@TheHulk1850]

To be fair, there are wrestling moves in Skyrim and they are pretty badass and fit better than you would think, but I do get what you are saying and I agree.

[@threestars2164]

? They are certainly not the most innovative games ever made when it comes to that area.

[@TheActMan]

excuse me while I shove a screwdriver into my eye sockets so I can pretend I never read this

[@TheREALwymario]

Taash may have singlehandedly set back nonbinary acceptance by years. I hope people learn from them, namely how not to treat others who have difficulty understanding or adjusting to your new identity (the pushups thing is just fucking evil), and how not to write LGBT characters in games.

[@docmacabre]

100% agree. Taash feels like a mean-spirited parody of nonbinary people.

[@abelgonzalez158]

That is by design! The wealthy benefit when we are divided and their methods are many. Look at the corporate tax avoidance and executive tax bailouts while pushing dei and no accountability for leadership anywhere in the corporate world

[@anthonykarnes6804]

​@docmacabre they are mean spirited parodies of people

[@Dietskittles]

It looks like they were there to just check off a box, not for any meaningful inclusion.

[@Badassdude1234]

Heard that Taash might have been a self insert of one of the writers for this game. The one with blue hair. Can't miss it.

[@r.e.z9428]

At least Andromeda had the decency to take place in another galaxy. It wasn’t good, but it left the original trilogy alone. While Veilguard basically ruins or burns what was setup before.

[@elseggs6504]

Andromeda couldve been good too, but just like Veilguard, you play as a whimp. Not once do you get to be an asshole or simply overrule your groups teenage drama

[@MaxLittleBuddy]

Don't worry, Mass Effect 4 will do the same

[@r.e.z9428]

@elseggs6504 The writing was pretty bad too.

[@elseggs6504]

@@r.e.z9428 Oh I know. Being a whimp instead of a leader, despite officially being one is just bad writing. I understand moving away from Renegade/Paragon system so you arent restricted by a score. That however isnt what happened. Theres only one choice in the entire game thats close to ME2 Renegade and its not even done that well. The crew youre meant to care for only has one character that is tolerable. Your bosses arent even the good kind of unlikeable like the Council or interesting like the Illusive Man. Instead its "My face is tired"

[@jerkopatrik]

It’s weird how BioWare (at least in my opinion) nailed the combat and completely butchered the writing and characters in ME:A. Mass Effect games (well mainly 1 and 2) never really had good combat but the writing was cinema asf. You know something is wrong when the best part of a Mass Effect game is the multiplayer, and yes, ME:A’s MP was hella fun. To be honest, so was ME3’s. I put like 600 hours into ME3 MP because it had a ton of new and interesting abilities and you could play as basically every species (even Voluses, a fucking Collector (!!!) and a Geth Prime unit as well).

[@Vikt0rian]

Origins made me fall in love with Dragon Age, Dragon Age 2 made me ask if we were okay, but we agreed that it was just a little hiccup in the relationship. Inquisition was a shattering divorce, and Veilguard is them getting together with a drug dealer that sells crack to children...

[@vince5000]

The only thing I've found interesting about DA Veilguard is the games journalists malding over it not getting a nomination for GOTY

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

"Journalists", don't forget the quotations. Let's not insult the real journalists out there who are struggling

[@arnoldasm7300]

lol. i also was surprised that they not include This game, knowing Game Awards.. did ea spend all their money on veilguard unicorn 'writers' and had no left for bribery ?

[@DentStyleNewsNetwork]

@@arnoldasm7300ding ding ding, that and maybe the game awards want to be taken seriously again for the first time in a decade lol.

[@kenjinpiniteu]

@@DentStyleNewsNetwork not with Geoff Knighley greenlighting Shadow of the Erdtree, a fucking DLC, for GOTY. He's got his tongue so deep in FromSoft's ass, it's pathetic.

[@Gear3]

Or the articles that came out like a week or two after the game came out and were suddenly criticizing it after all those sites gave it 9s and 10s.

[@thelastcrow5660]

"So...I'm non-binary" - Dialogue from a dark fantasy game

[@terribleivan1475]

I enjoy the name “Rook” for a straightforward and inflexible, yet competent and important character. Gonna be years before I can use it without people thinking of this dumpster fire now.

[@terribleivan1475]

I’m actually disgusted they felt the need to explain it word for word in the game, just pathetic

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

Someday the name "Mustang" will be sullied like this, I am already bracing myself

[@Apt23-v8u]

​@@RRRRRRRRR33for a fma fan that is a horryfing nightmare

[@robrockstar9648]

Play the banner saga the main character Rook in that game is way better

[@terribleivan1475]

@@robrockstar9648 That’s where I first saw the name haha! Great game I agree

[@AlphaBiggotz]

You owe Az a full apology.

[@Hybridial84]

“I hope they put identity politics in all AAA games moving forward, just to spite people like Az”.

[@shadowmaster335]

you forgot to mention that, not only did they not try and hook old players back, they actively tried to get rid of them, how?, ohh, by destroying everywhere we've been in the last 3 games, orlais, ferelden, free marches, etc, (if you picked the warden "origin" you get a letter stating that, basically tevinter & a fraction of redcliffe is left after the "super blight" wiped it all out off screen)

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

The sterilized writing, cartoonish visuals, the Kingdoms of Amalur combat in 2024, etc.. all crappy stuff that makes this game mediocre at best. But the fact they erased the previous games is the most egregious stuff about this new DA. I'm not even a big DA fan, only played Origins a long time ago, forgot most of the plot, location names, characters and so on... but we all know the main gimmick of Bioware sequels is the illusion of choice. This game is so sloppy, a caricature of Bioware, they simply erased the previous regions off-screen, lol can't be more lazy and convenient than that, this should be the main focus of criticism

[@ldmo3600]

Saying that you are non-binary in a world where theres no concept of digital machines it just sound stupid.

[@DecontructRecreate]

Bro, the genre is fantasy, it doesn’t need to make sense.

[@JustAFishBeingAFish]

​@@DecontructRecreate Just because it's in a fantasy world doesn't mean it doesn't have to make sense. It would be a pretty awful game if every story element was completely incoherent and the timescale constantly changes without telling you. You are confusing fiction with nonsense.

[@theblackknight101]

@@DecontructRecreate That is such a lazy argument to make.. explain away everything with "magic go brrrr.."

[@youngonion9339]

@@DecontructRecreate do people actually have this opinion lmao how does it being fantasy excuse problems like referencing modern technology

[@captainp367]

It sounds stupid in real life too

[@Ragd0ll1337]

27:10 a perfect example of this is Arcane and Blue Eye Samurai, two very “woke” shows which don’t preach and even people who hate “woke” stuff like those shows. The plot is about the plot not about the specific social issues that person might encounter because real people are more than JUST their gender identity.

[@QuadratusTiberium]

Fucking love blue eye samurai

[@bencarlson4300]

My philosophy on movies and shows has always been “if it’s good, I will watch it” regardless of subject matter. Quality isn’t dictated by personal beliefs or statements.

[@hairycake538]

Gender identity is not a real thing. Grow up

[@BrickDaniels-qu7bz]

@@QuadratusTiberium It was aite. Not sure I even finished it..

[@zero1343]

That was how woke was being used for quite a while, only referring to stuff that pushed much of the identity politics at the expense of the story or setting. But like many words online it's expanded to mean so many different things to different people that it's pretty much useless now.

[@Veritas-superbia]

There is no actual exploration in vielguard. You are on a track, you don't ever leave the track by your own volition, you can't get off the beaten path so to say. It's garbage

[@Foxador]

What I find the most jarring, other than some of the self inserts, is how when you go to recruit people to your party all you say is "it's the end of the world! come on!" and then they join you. Yet when the worlds about to end and the gods are going full super sayen... everyone's like, "whoa!! we gotta like chill out and talk about our unresolved feelings! There's no way I could say the world unless my lifelong daddy issues get resolved *first*" Like... wtf? You gotta all sit down in a circle and have a group therapy session and hash out our feelings and then go try to solve our lifelong problems all in a moments notice or "My minds not going to be in the right space to save the world"

[@workstudy8118]

0:11 smell of modern gaming

[@italysr]

the smell of wokees

[@GrzegorzMikos]

Western gaming, don’t shit on Asia and East EU.

[@keon4923]

😂😂😂

[@PenguinWithInternetAccess]

AAA gaming*

[@insanecheapo195]

DEI gaming

[@gamerforlife123100]

This the storytelling you get when you hire someone on your team who wrote a book with the title "what i learned from Mario's b*tt""

[@shadowX2121]

If ChatGPT told EA how to make the newest Dragon Age game that is kid-friendly for 2024.

[@Yodalemos]

ChatGPT couldn't possibly write so poorly.

[@qdawg8087]

Ironically might’ve been better had they listened to ChatGPT 😅 here’s it’s response. Look at points 3 and 7: As the lead producer for a sequel to Dragon Age: Origins, making the game more palatable to a modern, diverse, and sensitive audience would involve several key strategies: 1. **Inclusive Character Representation**: Ensure that the character roster includes a wide range of backgrounds, ethnicities, genders, and sexual orientations. This would not only enhance representation but also allow players to see themselves in the game. Expanding on non-binary and LGBTQ+ characters with meaningful narratives would be essential. 2. **Culturally Sensitive Storylines**: Approach the lore and storytelling with a focus on cultural sensitivity. Engage consultants from diverse backgrounds to ensure that the portrayal of different cultures and characters is respectful and accurate. This would help avoid stereotypes and promote nuanced storytelling. 3. **Player Choice and Consequence**: Enhance the player agency in shaping the narrative. Allow players to make choices that reflect their values and beliefs, with consequences that feel authentic and impactful. This would foster a deeper connection to the story. 4. **Mental Health Themes**: Integrate themes related to mental health, trauma, and healing into character arcs and storylines. Providing a compassionate portrayal of these themes can resonate with players and promote awareness. 5. **Accessibility Features**: Implement a robust set of accessibility options to accommodate players with different needs, such as customizable controls, subtitles, and visual aids. This would ensure that everyone can enjoy the game. 6. **Community Engagement**: Involve the gaming community in the development process through feedback sessions and open forums. This would create a sense of ownership among fans and help identify areas for improvement. 7. **Dynamic World-Building**: Create a living world that evolves based on player decisions and actions. Allow for diverse narratives that reflect the choices made, giving players a sense of agency and connection to the game world. By focusing on these elements, the sequel could resonate with a broader and more diverse audience while maintaining the core essence that made Dragon Age: Origins beloved.

[@shadowX2121]

@@qdawg8087 So it's a human error than because I would rather play this Dragon Age games with the old art style of the previous Dragon Age lol.

[@Chawk282]

Bro ChatGPT is way better than whatever that was.

[@PowerfulRift]

There is nothing child friendly about this radical gender stuff. You must be retarded to believe that.

[@LostOneOmega]

Taash seems like she was intended to be the favorite by the development team NOT the audience. They really wanted you to like her. Ironic, when you consider she's part of one of the most abrasive race in Thedas and she likes the most destructive creatures that have destroyed everything they touch. Really stupid there, Current-Day Bioware.

[@dusttodust915]

Then she fits the narrative then, cause the people she's based off of destroy everything they touch to.

[@Jdjdjdujakzgsha]

Did you just say HER!!!! 10 pushups

[@JwaaT5oh3]

I ain’t gonna focus on her at all. Not doing any of her side quest nothing. Skipping all cutscenes that mainly involve only her and if it was a option which I doubt like most companions but not all I wouldn’t even recruit her and since I’m forced to do so I’d send it to its deaths in a heart beat but of course character is protected from that while they least woke ones aren’t.

[@oldmanMikehere]

This is a wildly good metaphor for how these woke lecturers alienate people, who may have been supportive.

[@TheodoricFriede]

Ok to be "fair" to nuBioware, they have done that for years. Bioware has always had their own developer favorites who they push harder than any other characters. Liara and Leliana are the two most obvious.

[@ParanoidAandroid]

I fully agree - Dragon Age: Origins will forever remain the greatest Bioware game ever made, and it has been downhill ever since.

[@Lotharrr]

Baldur's Gate 2 is the best

[@Resijew]

Hey Act Man, remember how you shat all over HeelvsBabyface for his Starfield rant, and you said something along the lines of “I hope they put identity politics in all AAA games moving forward, just to spite people like Az”. Well here you go buddy, this is the game you were hoping for. Enjoy.

[@Toodream]

for real, sad to see everyone ignoring this hypocritical nonsense.

[@michaeljcaboose1152]

You aren’t very bright

[@Clownin_around]

@@michaeljcaboose1152well duh, humans don’t glow smh. 🤦

[@TurdFerguson-td9nx]

​@@michaeljcaboose1152Stop talking to yourself

[@pvd9085]

I totally agree about the importance of starting small. Just take Final Fantasy VIII for example. You start out by doing an exam for your mercenary school. Fast forward dozens hours later you are fighting an evil witch from the future who is about to compress all of time together into one place while a tear drop consisting of billions of monsters fell from the moon towards earth. It took time to get to that place and the characters who you grew to love along the way actually mean something to you.

[@cirederfsamot2730]

yeah, that is a staple of JRPG to the point of becoming a meme, but that's because it works : Start of the game, kill rats, save cat. End of the gamee, kill god.

[@esperlihn4446]

... Wat

[@Warrior_Culture]

I have no problem at all with what people want to identify as or how they want to be referred to. However, having a fantasy character in a Dragon Age game just state "I'm non-binary" feels so jarringly out of place. You don't learn about them, they don't show you who they are through action and interaction, they just say it like it's their name. And what's worse, they don't even say it convincingly. They say it like they're confessing to their parents, not like a strong character from a Dragon Age race that's known for it's strength and stoicism. That, among other moments, rip me right out of the game and back into the real world repeatedly.

[@Handles_are_garbage]

Imagine how powerful that could have been to have a strong, stoic character say matter-of-factly "I do not identify as male or female; I am simply a warrior" (or something to that effect) Making every queer character have this uWu demeanour is patronising.

[@graye2799]

Modern day gender crap like that is as cringe in real life as it is here.

[@Elintasokas]

I reject it both in real life and games. There's no shame in doing so.

[@dmurray2978]

Your tolerance has led to this slippery slope FYI

[@lutherheggs451]

You must HATE Balder's Gate 3 then with its pronouns and ability to create a trans character with scars and a massive dong.

[@doubletoked7054]

I knew it was a bad sign when folk were touting hair physics over gameplay and story

[@LamiNalchor]

I've never actually watched the Origins trailer. It looks absolutely great and not even much outdated. What the hell?

[@bandarsalh1338]

The way the dialogue is written alongside the delivery is that of a modern setting than a medieval one

[@twoshotsinthedark]

I got in "trouble" on a Discord server and an artist blocked me because I "talked too harshly and mentioned Taash's looks/design." I'm not even kidding. Some people are stun locked into the emotional maturity of High School theater kids. Edit: I got a good amount of attention: Anywho, I'm SHP or Serendipitous House Pet. I make art/write. I'm gonna make some art of good NB characters while namelessly telling these people to go fuck themselves. Artistic pettiness. It's all good.

[@celwenileran2135]

That's how they operate. People who designed this game or align with it censor and silence any criticism. They create echo chambers where they can hear themselves and smell their own farts while pretending they smell like roses. Why do you think we got this mess? Because all the criticism was swept away. Nobody listened to feedback or they specifically hired playtesters who wouldn't have any critical view on the game. It's just sad. But hey... At very least now we can point at this failure and laugh.

[@yukioacumora4430]

Well at least their time in the Sun is coming to a close. People are getting more and more fed up with this type of bullcrap that it's becoming the new intollerated by majority concensus lol.

[@SirQuantization]

You went on a discord to shit talk an artist? No wonder you got blocked by them. Nobody is required to give a shit about your opinion. So entitled 😂 also I say that as someone who fucking HATES Dragon Age, but you’re just being a douchebag by the sounds of it.

[@_Lunaria]

And Act Man was wondering why they removed all the blood and gore and cool action scenes from the Failturd.. cause those "people" cannot handle anything, i mean you call a woman, a woman and they will need 3 months of therapy or they will cry their brains out.

[@robrockstar9648]

It’s not like we spent several hundred hours saving Ferelden or anything.

[@sleeplessbard2519]

every origin is the same in veilguard anyway "rook is a good guy, the superiors are mean, rook did the good thing by defying orders, rook was told to lay low"

[@manen2391]

I mean if we simplify it down to that so was origins, DA2 and DAI , origins was the most in depth but still could be narrowed down to , important event, infected by darkspawn, have to go be a Grey warden, DA2 only effected which sibling died and Inquisition genuinely had the same get sent to chantry to do x, chantry blows up

[@sleeplessbard2519]

@manen2391 but the difference between them is the story of each origin vastly different here they're literally all the same thing

[@manen2391]

@@sleeplessbard2519 I mean they've never felt that different to me , sure it's a bit more in depth in the intro compared to the others but it's just the same story in different fonts, Maybe it's because I thought Origins had a boring and convoluted storyline but it's the one I have the least amount of hours in before Veilguard came out, its DLC was more interesting to me

[@modermonkula]

Jade Empire is actually sweet, definitely a hidden gem

[@knowledgegaming8437]

The thing is devs will blame KZbinrs, gamers. They won't blame themselves. Because they are the cause of their own damn failure. Nobody else.

[@BigWheel.]

I have a bad feeling that's a reoccurring theme that dominates their life. It's not a healthy way to live.

[@ilarioraio]

@@BigWheel. I mean if you look at the group you can see is only integrated with people who share the same beliefs and political views, i bet whoever they deemed as an "outsider" was casted away inmediately so they could continue living inside their little bubble, like tReddit communities these days where everyone that thinks differently than the extreme leftists are banned.

[@fightedmealready2692]

Step 1: Not understanding what makes the original games so great Step 2: Ship it out!

[@Halosrighthand]

@@fightedmealready2692 I think the misunderstanding is that people think BioWare's current devs actually believe that Origins was a good game, when they don't. They have said as much themselves. They do understand what made Origins great, they just hate everything that made it great, and have 0 intentions of doing those things. It's time to face the music, the devs that made BioWare what BioWare was are long, long gone.

[@starsuper64]

If you want to play a good RPG, Metaphor Refantazio is right around the corner for you to try (It's already out, I'm just saying that it's not to late to play it)

[@TheActMan]

I checked out some gameplay for that and that game has a pretty sick art style too

[@starsuper64]

@TheActMan highly recommend it. Sorry, I had to be an ass just for you to look at it

[@xcellentcreations3312]

What about persona 3 Reload?

[@J01789]

Right around the corner? It's already out.

[@starsuper64]

I meant it in avaliablity. But yeah probably should have worded it better.

[@mjasian5829]

Funny thing is that if this game wasn't dragon age, the hate wouldn't exist, it would just be a meh game instead of a dumpster fire

[@FlorianD30]

What also pisses me off is that they destroyed all the old areas from the previous games for no reason. "Hey, remember all those places you knew and loved from the old games, Ferelden, Orlais and the Free Marches? Well though shit, Darkspawn invaded and ate everyone you knew. Have a nice day."