How to Destroy an NBA Legacy: The Downfall of Doc Rivers

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@coreythompsonTheOneandOnly
@coreythompsonTheOneandOnly 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Dylan, you're getting great 😃👍 at these videos the sound bite you used at maybe 🤔 25:40, the omg 😱 sound bite to enunciate the inefficiency of montrez herrol, you put that at the right 👍▶️ place at the right 👍▶️ time ⌚ ⏰⏰
@davesantan6532
@davesantan6532 Жыл бұрын
@@coreythompsonTheOneandOnly t Nancy😮
@iwishiwasthomasshelby
@iwishiwasthomasshelby Жыл бұрын
No one has done less with more. The 2008 Celtics win despite of Doc, not because of him.
@VandoDaGoat
@VandoDaGoat Жыл бұрын
@@iwishiwasthomasshelby pplllólmi9o9 oo o
@twerktospec
@twerktospec Жыл бұрын
Money money money Yeah yeah
@chad_b
@chad_b 2 жыл бұрын
Doc raising the floor but lowering the ceiling is a great way of describing it
@ItIsYouAreNotYour
@ItIsYouAreNotYour 2 жыл бұрын
Doc stacking the teams and claiming getting to the championship involves luck is why he's a joke.
@sgshumblecrumb6046
@sgshumblecrumb6046 2 жыл бұрын
It's true. When he has an undermanned or injured roster, they play way over their heads (See 48 win Clippers team that had no stars), but when he has lots of talent, he becomes a spineless coward who can't do anything but argue with the refs while his all bench lineups and his hero-balling star players blow another 20+ point lead in the second half. I almost look forward to the games where Philly has one or more of their best players out because they suddenly have ball movement and team chemistry, and I don't knock Joel and James for it as much because I know Glenn has no offensive approach besides "give the ball to Joel, give to ball to James." There's video of Harden saying to him that he thinks they should run pick and roll and Glenn is saying "first, we need to establish a pecking order." He literally enforces a slow, inefficient, iso-ball offense when he has more talented players that he can do that with. So many times Maxey has enough daylight to attack the rim and he just defers to Harden or Embiid because Glenn is in his ear telling him to give it to James or Joel. I don't think even Embiid and Harden want to play that way, it's just that Glenn thinks it's still 2008 and that he can eek out a championship run with 3 all stars playing that way, even though he needed a record amount of playoff games to do so, including a 7 game first round series against the 8th seed. His teams win in spite of him, not because of him (unless he has a mediocre or worst roster).
@4392amtrak
@4392amtrak 2 жыл бұрын
@sgshumblecrumb6046 I know you'll definitely agree with this, but I bet you even someone with hardly any basketball knowledge could've won that 08 chip with 3 1/2 hofs in which Rondo is that half. Thibs was the mastermind defensively, and KG was that alpha dog they needed. If either Van Gundy, Mike Brown, D'Antoni, or Dwane Casey had won a chip and had Doc's longevity, they would've been looked at as all time great coaches and probably would've accomplished as much as Doc.
@tmasst07
@tmasst07 2 жыл бұрын
Arguably the greatest analogy or saying of the new year LOL excellent point
@ChrisTheElectrician
@ChrisTheElectrician 2 жыл бұрын
Please fire this man. My 76ers would’ve won already won if it wasn’t for him
@ShadowThe771
@ShadowThe771 Жыл бұрын
This video aged like fine wine. After watching the Sixers lose in the semi-finals again, “Doc Rivers coasting off his past success” has been the most factual narrative in the last decade. Fun fact, this is the third time that Jimmy Butler has gone to the conference finals after the Sixers dumped him.
@ralphwiggum1982
@ralphwiggum1982 Жыл бұрын
I can honestly say I’ve never heard anyone say doc is a great coach like you said he’s still riding on that championship he brought to Boston an seeing how he bounces from team to team more then Westbrook now is a clear sign he’s a mediocre coach who got lucky with that championship I’d rather have Ty Lou coaching then doc any day
@jaredwilliams1758
@jaredwilliams1758 Жыл бұрын
The Mike McCarthy of the nba idk how people keep hiring him. I’d rather give someone a chance to be a head coach for the first time then hire doc who has statistically proven he cant get it done outside of having rondo Allen Garnett and pierce and still that was one time
@chrisdenis3634
@chrisdenis3634 10 ай бұрын
its still aging well with the horrible start for the bucks
@LewisBrazelz
@LewisBrazelz 7 ай бұрын
Here we go again, a year later and Doc doing what he does best again! Killed the Bucks season as soon as be showed up lol
@zeked4200
@zeked4200 6 ай бұрын
​@@LewisBrazelz Lillard and Giannis don't seem to mesh. Both might be too ball dominant to make it work. With that said, Doc didn't do a thing to adjust...try to get them playing to their strengths...maybe? Smh you or I could have coached that Celtics team in 08. Just roll the balls out and let them go to work. Anytime he's needed to coach up his squad, in big moments or big games, they come up short.
@atraina6921
@atraina6921 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been saying this from the start. No team or coach has milked a career and legacy off of one nba championship, more than Doc Rivers and the 08 Celtics. They make you think off of just one ring they were a dynasty and that Doc Rivers is a hall of fame coach.
@4392amtrak
@4392amtrak 2 жыл бұрын
And like I said, it took them seven games for them to get past an 8 seeded Hawks team and a LeBron led Cavs team. And as far as Doc goes, he'll get in the hof one day regardless based off of his longevity in the regular season with him already won 1000 games as a coach.
@LankyMofo
@LankyMofo 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always said this. Preach!
@robertharris4390
@robertharris4390 2 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% he is vastly overrated the man hasn’t been past the 2nd round since the 2012 ECF. Most game 7 losses & how many 3-1 leads has he blown ?
@J-Hue
@J-Hue 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, Doc coaching teams up well past their talent level can't be ignored on squads like those pre-Kawhi Clippers and the other squad he won COY for, thr Magic I think.
@swim3699
@swim3699 2 жыл бұрын
to be fair he went twice won 1
@itstaemonson
@itstaemonson 9 ай бұрын
I’ll never forget when Josh Smith said that Doc’s wife left him because he didn’t know how to make “ late game adjustments”
@AshveerGrewal
@AshveerGrewal 11 күн бұрын
💀
@shermanngjazz
@shermanngjazz 2 жыл бұрын
Never forget that the Clippers immediately made the WCF after Doc left.
@Bugzilla021
@Bugzilla021 2 жыл бұрын
If Kawhi didn't get injured, I would've given them a great chance at beating the Suns
@captainsimp8864
@captainsimp8864 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bugzilla021 Hell they would have beaten the Suns if Kawhi didn't get injured. And Rivers got lucky that they didn't make it to the finals because that would have made him look like an even bigger fool especially after what he said about Tyronn Lue
@pool5863
@pool5863 2 жыл бұрын
overcame two 0-2 deficits too. ty lue the goat
@shermanngjazz
@shermanngjazz 2 жыл бұрын
@@pool5863 Ty Lue the goat at 0-2 comebacks lol
@isiahspencer3028
@isiahspencer3028 2 жыл бұрын
And yeah y'all went to not making the playoffs after he left too 😆😆😆😆😆 the coach you guys got now sucks and if they don't win a championship this year he's probably going to be fired
@whodeani2216
@whodeani2216 Жыл бұрын
The fact that this video dropped 4 months ago and Doc Rivers lost yet ANOTHER Game 7 😭😂😂
@cyrillesu
@cyrillesu 2 жыл бұрын
Never forget last year when the Sixers jumped to a 3-0 lead on the Raptors in the 1st round and the main conversation was, rather than how dominant the team looked, how they were going to be the first team ever to blow a 3-0 lead in a playoff series. The Doc Rivers effect.
@J-Hue
@J-Hue 2 жыл бұрын
Philly's problem isn't Doc. It's that their team is led by two career playoff chokers in Embiid and Harden. Both were choking away series before he got there. The same is true of his Clippers squads sans the Kawhi-PG one where Kawhi and PG hadn't figured out how to play together yet. Doc didn't draw up a play for CP3 to botch 2 late game plays in back to back games trying to draw fouls when nothing was there. And CP3, as great as he is, was collapsing in the playoffs before and after Doc. Twice in N.O. against the Spurs and Nuggets and then in the Finals up 2-0 and then up 3-2 last season. In both the Denver and Mavs series, his team's dropped the final game(s) in record blowouts where the teams seemed to lack any kind of fight at all. Doc's biggest problem, again, has been coaching teams with career playoff chokers. When he had guys with killer instinct, they won it all and then made it back to the Finals despite being old as dirt as like a 4 seed. Philly will most likely fail come playoff time. Doc will most likely get blamed, but odds are it'll be because Embiid and Harden will do their usual number of playing small in the big moments and games.
@seand7042
@seand7042 2 жыл бұрын
@@J-Hue I don't know if that ECF vs Toronto a choke or not that was one of the luckiest shots I've ever seen in my life
@thasneemrizvi
@thasneemrizvi 2 жыл бұрын
and the crazy part was they almost did blow a 3-0 lead or atleast go to game 7
@JoseFranco9
@JoseFranco9 2 жыл бұрын
@@J-Hue Harden is not a carrer playoff choker gtfo. The fact that his team lost in his prime 5 times vs Golden State who is a top 3 team ever is heavily ignored. You only realy could argue he choked vs San Antonio 2017 but other than that he played to his max and never got swept. Embiid on the other hand.....
@sgshumblecrumb6046
@sgshumblecrumb6046 2 жыл бұрын
@@J-Hue Even when he won it all, he needed 7 games to beat a 37-45 team in the first round of the playoffs when he had a 66 win team. When they lost in the Finals 2 years later, you know what Phil Jackson said about them during the series if you actually watched the video and you saw what happened. Then there's the Clippers/Nuggets series. That's a cheap excuse to explain choking a 3-1 lead with Kawhi Leonard who damn sure isn't a choker. Embiid and Harden also didn't choke away shit before Glenn arrived. Embiid has been stuck in a dumb organization (that hires Glenn among other things) with no floor spacing on the roster as a back to basket post player and two overmatched coaches (Glenn and Brett Brown.) Harden.....maybe there's some playoff demons there, but his overall numbers in the playoffs are not far off from his career average, and he still went toe to toe with one of the hardest to beat teams ever in the Warriors dynasty during their Durant era. They went 7 games in the WCF against them and had a 3-2 lead before CP3 went down. They probably go on to beat a short handed Cavs team that GS curb stomped for the title. Doc coaches playoff chokers. Those playoff chokers all played for Doc Rivers lol.
@monkehp
@monkehp Жыл бұрын
That comment by Phil Jackson was brutal. "This team has lost more games in the 4th quarter than anybody in the NBA. They know how to lose in the 4th quarter."
@kenrickkahn
@kenrickkahn Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 He was just brutally honest..
@lhourdeanthony4237
@lhourdeanthony4237 Жыл бұрын
@@kenrickkahn he was brutally honest. then years later, he and the Lakers got swept by Dallas in the 2011 Western conference semifinals, giving Dallas their only championship ring,
@atomsk1972
@atomsk1972 Жыл бұрын
@@lhourdeanthony4237 They're talking about blown 4th quarter leads and you're talking about a play-off series loss. Apples and oranges.
@lhourdeanthony4237
@lhourdeanthony4237 Жыл бұрын
@@atomsk1972 it just goes to show you, being brutally honest without looking at the karma that lies ahead could be even more brutally painful...that goes to show you that what goes around, comes around...
@shotguncrucifix
@shotguncrucifix Жыл бұрын
@@lhourdeanthony4237 nah you're just talking some bullshit lmfao
@TheMilchBroetchen
@TheMilchBroetchen 2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered, how much coaching did the 2008 celtics actually needed with the amount of talent they had?
@iamidnight9731
@iamidnight9731 2 жыл бұрын
They also have a plethora of great assistant coaches, like the defense master himself, Tom Thiboudeau. Doc was literally handed a golden platter of talent and coaching.
@mxhughes
@mxhughes 2 жыл бұрын
If the vets have high iq and minimize the ego then there's only so much a coach needs to do unless it's a specific playstyle.Luke Walton got immediate coaching gigs because of him playing step in coaching the warriors in 2016.Dude had absolutely no influence on anything.A fan in the stands coulda did the same shit Walton did which was literally nothing
@apple-xx2or
@apple-xx2or 2 жыл бұрын
None they could of coached themselves like the the 17 warriors
@joelthorstenson5278
@joelthorstenson5278 Жыл бұрын
@@mxhughes as a Lakers fan I was flabbergasted when he got the coaching job. He was clueless when he played with Kobe and often looked lost on the floor. NOT at all someone I would give a coaching job to
@Ghostaredead
@Ghostaredead Жыл бұрын
Exactly 😂 many coaches could have won with that team
@bobuJonesu
@bobuJonesu Жыл бұрын
Who’s here after doc blew yet another 3-2 lead?
@thatindiandude4602
@thatindiandude4602 Жыл бұрын
Here 😊
@1987palerider
@1987palerider Жыл бұрын
Me😂😂
@Cashmoneez
@Cashmoneez Жыл бұрын
I know we all kinda expected a philly implosion again but It didn't it would be another 3-2 doc x embiid disaster class
@RYMAN1321
@RYMAN1321 Жыл бұрын
And then was fired
@HorizonOfHope
@HorizonOfHope 2 жыл бұрын
That Rudy Tomjanovic isn’t on the all-time top 15 is outrageous. He had just one star, and admittedly it was Hakeem, but he squeezed every bit of talent out of that squad. Against Pat Riley, no less.
@OH_MY_DOGGG
@OH_MY_DOGGG 2 жыл бұрын
If only his Lakers stint could have been fulfilled.
@acnicodemus4734
@acnicodemus4734 Жыл бұрын
@@OH_MY_DOGGG regardless. He's a champion coach in Houston for crying out loud. He should be instantly in the list.
@adgee5401
@adgee5401 Жыл бұрын
We discounting Clyde?
@F28aj
@F28aj Жыл бұрын
@@acnicodemus4734yeah so with that logic Tyron Lue is on the list too lol
@acnicodemus4734
@acnicodemus4734 Жыл бұрын
@@F28aj lol, Rudy was a decorated coach, also won a coach of the year award
@siphillis
@siphillis Жыл бұрын
Doc's inability to maintain success really makes you appreciate how Pop, Jackson, and Auerbach got the most out of their teams year after year, roster after roster.
@kingoffedoras9932
@kingoffedoras9932 2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, seeing Docs downfall in his first year in Philly brought tears to my eyes. I've never felt pure joy like that before
@benjamin-qn7nf
@benjamin-qn7nf 2 жыл бұрын
On god 😂 I was tellin all my homies the Hawks would upset Philly, only cause I knew Doc was a choke artist
@theuncancelable
@theuncancelable 2 жыл бұрын
Still one of the greatest coaches of all time
@jeezyhuncho2783
@jeezyhuncho2783 2 жыл бұрын
@@theuncancelable hell naw
@theuncancelable
@theuncancelable 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeezyhuncho2783 can't disagree with facts boi
@jeromeforonda2752
@jeromeforonda2752 2 жыл бұрын
@@theuncancelable no.
@dejamike88
@dejamike88 2 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing that Doc is still cashing in that 2008 Celtics championship credit till this day lol
@jonathanwashington9199
@jonathanwashington9199 Жыл бұрын
Kobe Has 5 Would've Had 6 If It Wasn't For Doc Rivers LOL Hell Kobe Bryant Would've Had Two Three Peats In Two Different Eras 2000-2002 And 2008-2010
@ruelandrade5185
@ruelandrade5185 Жыл бұрын
Loldwl i never see one man milk one ring so badly so tyron liu is one of the greatest coach he win a much harder ring lol coming back from 1 3 down while doc losing from 3 1 up lol
@dejamike88
@dejamike88 Жыл бұрын
@@ruelandrade5185 💯true that lol
@TheRealtalk617
@TheRealtalk617 Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanwashington9199 more like Kevin Garnett. Doc is not responsible for that ring. Once KG got hurt and didnt fully recover to what he was before the injury, the Celtics were done. Made another run to the finals but it wasn't the same KG.
@Dru2037
@Dru2037 Жыл бұрын
​@@jonathanwashington9199 it was Bynum's knee more than Doc.
@justfate5912
@justfate5912 2 жыл бұрын
Bro I literally saw this vid in my recommended and it being 31 minutes long immediately made me think of Doc River's 3-1 stature in the league.
@Zenrei03
@Zenrei03 2 жыл бұрын
That might have been intentional 🤣
@hectorcarrillo4714
@hectorcarrillo4714 2 жыл бұрын
This is some funny ironic shit 😂
@asaptenebrae2240
@asaptenebrae2240 Жыл бұрын
No pun intended 😆
@MrRedpaul84
@MrRedpaul84 2 жыл бұрын
I think his resume speaks for itself. He does NOT deserve to be in the same conversation as Popovich, Riley, or Jackson.
@ruelandrade5185
@ruelandrade5185 Жыл бұрын
🙄 how did doc name get beside these 3 great coaches
@HooodClassicsTV
@HooodClassicsTV Жыл бұрын
He is not where near the coach but he has a better basketball career than them cuz he played. Yes Phil and Riley did too but they weren’t as good as Doc
@Vdubatron
@Vdubatron 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!! I've been saying this since Lob-City in LAC, when I was forced to pay attention to Docs coaching. Then I moved from SoCal to Philly and Doc followed me! I was preaching the first year here to anyone that would listen how Doc only runs 1 play and doesn't know what to do when a team figures that 1 play out. Now it seems like the book is out. Doc has got to go. He's GOT TO GO!
@Dejays_lifestyle
@Dejays_lifestyle 2 жыл бұрын
We're going through that with Joe mazzulla
@couragedadawg6210
@couragedadawg6210 11 ай бұрын
Bucks fans are sweating right now
@proa007
@proa007 10 ай бұрын
And now they're doing a lot more than that.
@MrCasey__
@MrCasey__ 10 ай бұрын
Bucks going to the Finals
@Brian-m9v
@Brian-m9v 10 ай бұрын
@@MrCasey__ HAhah who are you kidding
@victor_autopilotliving5786
@victor_autopilotliving5786 9 ай бұрын
Bucks just lost in a blowout a few days ago 😞
@TippedScale
@TippedScale 9 ай бұрын
​@@victor_autopilotliving5786it might be joever for you guys
@Gravijahz
@Gravijahz 2 жыл бұрын
Doc suffers from what many great people do: They begin to think their greatness is to be expected, rather than earned. Their ideas, their views cannot be questioned because of their success. And when there are failures, it must be the players, other coaches, etc because it surely could not be Doc Rivers and his greatness. When you have stopped being able to learn, adapt, be wrong, etc you have already lost. You're in the rear view mirror, ready to be replaced by those who have those qualities.
@msc2u1
@msc2u1 2 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@lil_james1584
@lil_james1584 2 жыл бұрын
Facts 💯
@bookmoon7244
@bookmoon7244 2 жыл бұрын
Coaches shouldn't have huge ego no matter how successful they are. They are nothing without good players, Lebron could carry trash team to NBA finals, Gregg Popovich can't.
@DMalltheway
@DMalltheway 2 жыл бұрын
Tom Thibs is one of the main reasons why the Celtics were that good and won a chip
@kyhxx
@kyhxx Жыл бұрын
. etc
@JECZ23
@JECZ23 2 жыл бұрын
I'm born/raised in Boston & I'll be the first to admit that Doc just happened to be at the right place at right time to coach Boston big 3. He's not the worst coach but shouldn't be in high regard either.
@andersonlebrun8370
@andersonlebrun8370 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this doc is holding the sixers back so much
@idontlikeuidiot2060
@idontlikeuidiot2060 2 жыл бұрын
right weve had so many good players let go because of of his trash coaching players like isiah joe charles bassey and paul reed still not getting minutes
@dylanhotrum7354
@dylanhotrum7354 2 жыл бұрын
@@idontlikeuidiot2060 this dude really thinks Isaiah joe Is a sixer still 😂
@denan30
@denan30 2 жыл бұрын
Charles bassey on the Spurs
@rahultalkssports1404
@rahultalkssports1404 2 жыл бұрын
Philly has everything besides a good HC
@idontlikeuidiot2060
@idontlikeuidiot2060 2 жыл бұрын
@@dylanhotrum7354 my grammar is trash but I meant to say they were let go
@justhereforthememes536
@justhereforthememes536 Жыл бұрын
As a Celtics fan, we should’ve won 3 chips minimum with those big 3/4 teams. Refs screwed in 2010, Perk and KG injuries were massive, but every team experiences hardship and even an average coaching performance could’ve held the team down. “Thanks for 08 I guess” is spot on, so much potential left on the table even if they did hit the home run once.
@catchcan221
@catchcan221 Жыл бұрын
Screwed my ass. Lakers shot 32.5% in Game 7 and ya’ll still couldn’t finish them. Ya’ll held Kobe to 6/24 shooting and still lose. Ya’ll had a 13 point lead late in the game snd still lost.
@MistaTofMaine
@MistaTofMaine Жыл бұрын
​@@catchcan221yep if I recall right nobody could hit crap that game 7 and pau gasol was probably best player.
@crablord7934
@crablord7934 2 жыл бұрын
IMO Rivers knows how to coach a bunch of underdogs since he knows giving the ball to them all the time or going superstar centric doesn't work with those teams, yet when he has next level talent he relies on utilizing them so much he doesn't know how to adjust whenever opposing teams sniff out his rigid schemes. A lot of his collapses are opposing teams making swift in game adjustments to hit them where it hurt, with Doc responding by contributing as much as a papaya on the bench area.
@calicocalpico
@calicocalpico Жыл бұрын
It's like when you first start playing a fighting game and don't know any special moves, you rely on fundamentals and solid basics. Then when you learn the projectiles and uppercuts, you become reliant and predictable on over-usage. All the dynamic skill goes out the window and becomes focused on "I'm going to hit them with this hadoken right after I get up"
@slashismyhommie8182
@slashismyhommie8182 Жыл бұрын
Doc was overrated most his coaching career. He won ONE championship with a team that in all honesty SHOULD have been a dynasty type of team. Instead, that team was one and done. He refused to coach during a rebuild (one that was fairly a quick one). Went to a Clippers team that was built to "win now" then he got Kawai Leonard and PG13 to "win now" again. Then went to a Philadelphia team with superstars that again, is one of the better constructed teams talent wise. Doc Rivers has been overrated because he rode coattails of Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce.
@henrysmith4984
@henrysmith4984 2 жыл бұрын
It’s always a good day when Dylan posts
@jusbandoreborn8947
@jusbandoreborn8947 Жыл бұрын
This man can’t stop choking, another 3-1 blown lead this time to the celtics 😂
@BeatsbyVegas
@BeatsbyVegas Жыл бұрын
Was a 3-2 lead this time not 3-1
@garysanders7935
@garysanders7935 2 жыл бұрын
By the editing on this one it seems personal for Dylan
@thehaus6998
@thehaus6998 Жыл бұрын
25:00 I don't blame PG or Kawhi tbh, Rivers completly shut down training in the team, they didn't train togather, a newly formed team, which destroyed their ability to pass to eachother, read their own tendencies, and play united, with key players not being in the floor, the team was a hot mess, the fact they won 3 games with his bum coaching is spectacular
@cjmoss51
@cjmoss51 2 жыл бұрын
The Magic bit is insane. Both because a team with Duncan, McGrady, Grant Hill, Doc would have been insane AND the fact that all 3 of the players are in the HOF regardless. Doc himself has a claim to a HOF induction just as a coach for how many wins he racked up over the years.
@starastro4591
@starastro4591 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and grant hill was always injured. We never got to even see a full season of what him and mcgrady would have looked like together
@ItIsYouAreNotYour
@ItIsYouAreNotYour 2 жыл бұрын
He doesn't deserve HOF. Longevity has nothing to do with HOF. He won once with a stacked af roster. The fact this guy gets job after job is remarkable.
@ayeyobossman6151
@ayeyobossman6151 2 жыл бұрын
dude has had top talent on every team he has coached other than (arguably) the magic. Of course he’s gonna have a lot of wins
@4392amtrak
@4392amtrak 2 жыл бұрын
@itsyourenotyourstupid9045 If Mike Brown, D'antoni, Van Gundy brothers, or Dwane Casey was coaching the 08 team and had the longevity of Doc, they would've been looked as all-time great coaches and would've been as accomplished as him.
@DMalltheway
@DMalltheway 2 жыл бұрын
Sad that he wouldn’t let Duncan’s family travel with the team otherwise he’d retire a Magic.
@lalovillaverde2877
@lalovillaverde2877 Жыл бұрын
Well here for an update. Doc just blew a 3-2 lead at home against the Celtics…. Doc was fired from the 76ers. (2023 playoffs)
@joelman1989
@joelman1989 2 жыл бұрын
I’m literally saving these videos to show my kids in 10 years. Because lots of channels explain this stuff. But you have a talent for making a person feel like they are right in the moment not just learning about it after. Paying attention not just to the facts but the humans and their desires, emotions, fears etc.
@TonyPajamas24
@TonyPajamas24 2 жыл бұрын
Bot 🤡
@20marvelman
@20marvelman Жыл бұрын
He gets a lot of things wrong for a summary channel, they didn’t have 4 all stars until 2011
@pureo_nikku
@pureo_nikku Жыл бұрын
Thank you for adding some more context to the earlier Doc years. As a 76ers fan I can now point out he wasn’t special his first few in Boston and nearly blew it the Finals run🙄
@arnabiarnab3037
@arnabiarnab3037 Жыл бұрын
The Celtics ram should’ve won a minimum two rings
@konsciousk00
@konsciousk00 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, never thought Doc was that great of a coach. The wins he got were with super loaded teams.
@iamidnight9731
@iamidnight9731 2 жыл бұрын
He rode the coat tails of great players AND assistant coaches. Proof that he aint that great is his inability to make adjustments when it matters most, hence the 3-1 curse. 🤣
@DMalltheway
@DMalltheway 2 жыл бұрын
Thibs helped him with that defensive scheme
@etiennebunbury1285
@etiennebunbury1285 Жыл бұрын
Typical of white people to say that a black man’s success as a manager or coach of a team is in spite of him! What have you inspired or won…
@staringatthesun861
@staringatthesun861 6 ай бұрын
Update: 2023 -- Blown 3-2 lead in 2nd round versus Boston 2024 -- 1st round flameout against Indiana
@DwayneIsK1NG
@DwayneIsK1NG 2 жыл бұрын
It still blows my mind that someone can blow a 3-1 lead. You were dominating a team and can't win just 1 freaking more? 🤦🏿 it's tough to blow 1 of those, but this dude has done it MULTIPLE times. That's a talent right there
@aidanwatson910
@aidanwatson910 Жыл бұрын
How many minutes did Doc play?
@DwayneIsK1NG
@DwayneIsK1NG Жыл бұрын
@@aidanwatson910Zero. And yes, a lot of blame are on the players, but Doc is NOTORIOUS for NEVER making adjustments to his lineups. Players can only do so much when their lineup is outmatched by a better coach. And besides, he's the ONLY constant in all these blown leads. So you kind of have to put blame on him
@pittland44
@pittland44 Жыл бұрын
@@DwayneIsK1NG There isn't really any way around your points. Doc doesn't adjust. Case in point during their series against the Nuggets in the semis in the bubble, Paul George completely fell apart and went stone cold from the field (I mean he wasn't hitting anything, nor was he rebounding well). Did Doc take him out and have any of his bench players take over in an attempt to spark the offense? Nope. He kept playing him starters minutes, in late game situations, despite the fact that his shooting cratered. Same thing with Simmons against the Hawks. Simmons fell apart like an old Schwinn left out in the rain. Doc kept him out there. I mean Trey Young, who's a fraction of the size of Ben Simmons, made him look like an absolute punk. For whatever reason Doc doesn't pull guys when they're not playing well.
@kingtachalla6181
@kingtachalla6181 Жыл бұрын
​@@aidanwatson910ppl defending doc in 2023 is crazy asf
@aidanwatson910
@aidanwatson910 Жыл бұрын
@@kingtachalla6181 I'm not defending him I'm saying a much of a notorious choke job coach he is so are a lot of players he's coached. And I'm also not going to act like NBA coaching in general is effective without the right couple Elite level plays, like the Celtics has and were able to overcome Doc's coaching for 1 championship when we should have had 3. Blame dispersion.
@Big73Red
@Big73Red Жыл бұрын
I’ve always looked at Doc the same way I looked at Tony Dungy in the NFL. Both are great regular season head coaches. But once in the playoffs they have one of their glaring weaknesses come out and ruin their team’s chances of winning.
@EmbraceTheStruggle24
@EmbraceTheStruggle24 Жыл бұрын
Definitely a good and logical comparison :)
@Bale4Bond
@Bale4Bond 2 жыл бұрын
What has Doc actually done successfully besides from coaching that one Celtics team to a championship?
@4392amtrak
@4392amtrak 2 жыл бұрын
And in that run, it took them seven games to get past an 8 seeded team and a LeBron led team in which he shot 35% that series. U can also make an argument that Thibs was the unofficial head coach that team.
@thelosingimpossible
@thelosingimpossible 2 жыл бұрын
@@4392amtrak LeBron wasn't shooting 35% because he wasn't feeling well, he shit 35 cuz the defence was perfectly focused on him and his team was shite
@4392amtrak
@4392amtrak 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelosingimpossible That's a good point. That Celtics team was one of the greatest defensive teams of all time with KG, Perk, Tony Allen, Posey, etc.
@sydguitar99
@sydguitar99 2 жыл бұрын
He had prime KG, Pierce, Ray Allen and a young Prodigy in Rondo..What coaching did he actually have to do LMAO
@mangobananana
@mangobananana 2 жыл бұрын
@@sydguitar99 exactly lol if anything Doc limited them to just one championship
@terenceflynn4555
@terenceflynn4555 Жыл бұрын
Doc is to basketball what Joe Maddon is to baseball: they can get you to the playoffs, but when the lights are brightest they can make head-scratching decisions that can cost their team the season. They also both won rings despite their poor performances ALMOST cutting those hopes short.
@kenrickkahn
@kenrickkahn Жыл бұрын
Let them get you into the playoffs and switch them out for somebody else.. 😂😂 to make sure it's no screw ups..
@thomas_the_cat
@thomas_the_cat 2 жыл бұрын
doc has been living-off that 2008 reputation ever since...
@lamchunting856
@lamchunting856 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously how does he keep getting a job
@Bearsfan15654
@Bearsfan15654 2 жыл бұрын
@@lamchunting856 diversity and he kisses ass to the right people. Mind you I’m saying this as a black man, the man is a dynasty killer.
@kingston4313
@kingston4313 2 жыл бұрын
@@lamchunting856 he’s top 10 coaches of all time
@johnpaulkerrigan7975
@johnpaulkerrigan7975 Жыл бұрын
As a Celtics fan who watched these finals runs year after year it’s hard to not think we could have had atleast one more championship if it wasn’t for docs inconsistency
@presidential3228
@presidential3228 Жыл бұрын
no its called kobe bryant 😂😂😂
@ultimateyagerman
@ultimateyagerman 11 ай бұрын
​@@presidential3228 kobe lost the first meeting in 2008, kid 🫵🤡 Go finish your juice box
@lessondburn3971
@lessondburn3971 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. I never heard his quote about Ty Lue was sitting next to me so nothing will change when he's the coach... Mf is sad. Lacking self accountability is literally the worst quality in a head coach. Bc we all know when u win, the coach gets none of the credit. And when u lose, he gets all of the blame... Well, except for this guy obviously. Philly does seem to be the perfect landing spot for him tho, bc he's also with a couple of known playoff chokers who tend to get injured or come up small when it matters the most. Embiid and harden also severely lack accountability. Like it's hilarious that they blamed Simmons in 2022, yet they had the same outcome last season.. and they all lookin like the spiderman meme, pointing at each other til this day, which is why the same exact thing will happen. Embiid will get a toe nail injury, Harden will put up 6 pts in the deciding game of a second round series vs the Cavs or sum shit.. Then Rivers will get a contract extension.
@RacksonRacksonRibss
@RacksonRacksonRibss Жыл бұрын
Right. Lacking self-accountability is the worst trait any leader or manager can have - no matter the industry. I dunno how he gets away with it (oh right that one ring 15 years ago where he had 3 HOF’ers in their prime on the same squad).
@lessondburn3971
@lessondburn3971 Жыл бұрын
@@RacksonRacksonRibss 🤣🤣 Every member of that team juiced tf out of that one ring, w the exception of Ray.. u would think they won about 3 the way they talk Abt themselves
@paulyramone1
@paulyramone1 Жыл бұрын
Last season Embiid had a busted face and hand, and Harden was far from fully fit and had only been with the team for about three months. To lose that series to a very good Miami Heat team under those circumstances was no disgrace. I get a lot of the criticism of Rivers, and agree with some of it, but this video is just a hit-piece with a clickbait title designed to maximize views. As a Sixers fan I hope this current group (which is much deeper and more connected without crybaby Simmons) wins it all and silences the haters.
@lessondburn3971
@lessondburn3971 Жыл бұрын
@@paulyramone1 Nets and Celtics i can't see losing to the sixers. Too many weapons. maxy is the only player I see that has that dawg in him. T Harris, harden etc... Ehh idk. I'm not a fan of any team particularly but for u I hope I'm wrong
@nnnp634
@nnnp634 Жыл бұрын
You described it perfectly. Rivers said they weren't expected to win it all in the season when they lost to bloody Hawks. Embiid blamed Simmons that season, and then blamed Harden next season. He wasn't wrong, but that's not the way to do things. While it is true that Sixers would've been champions if everyone played like Embiid, the same could be said for any other team with a top 10 player. If Joel wants to be the leader he has to carry the team both on and off the court and it's probably too late for Rivers.
@phillipbell4394
@phillipbell4394 Жыл бұрын
This is random, but I do kind of wish that Larry Bird coached for longer because I really do think he had a shot of being a top 15 coach over Doc Rivers. In three years he took Jordan to a game 7 in the conference finals. He made it once again to the Conference finals in the second strangest season ever, and then he took Shaq and Kobe to 6 games in the finals. I get that he never one a ring, but he was the real deal. He was good.
@avthecool129
@avthecool129 10 ай бұрын
well said
@timothy9979
@timothy9979 2 жыл бұрын
Dylan starting off 2023 with a banger
@kevinlawrence8580
@kevinlawrence8580 2 жыл бұрын
It seems to me it appears that Doc Rivers can't handle the pressure of high expectations. Or it could be he does not prepare his team well.
@nadiA-em6uh
@nadiA-em6uh 2 жыл бұрын
As a Sixers fan this hurts cause I need to see a championship soon
@hrebientony
@hrebientony 2 жыл бұрын
Your window will close before you know it. Get that man out of there.
@Pleebian94
@Pleebian94 2 жыл бұрын
Go win one in 2K because Doc is gonna Doc.
@mangobananana
@mangobananana 2 жыл бұрын
you got self claimed mvp overrated never won a 1st team nba Embiid + overrated trash coach doc gluck
@ashrunzeda4099
@ashrunzeda4099 2 жыл бұрын
Embiid will suffer the fate of Iverson I tell you. Wasted potential.
@mrsky67
@mrsky67 2 жыл бұрын
You’re not winning anything with Doc rivers 💀
@chaegwan-jin1487
@chaegwan-jin1487 11 ай бұрын
This deserves a rewatch now, given current events around the Bucks... lol
@FreshPrincex4
@FreshPrincex4 10 ай бұрын
Giannis about to spend the rest of his prime experiencing choked leads
@leeswift7883
@leeswift7883 Жыл бұрын
Wait a minute, why'd THIS video somehow come across my algorithm today?
@danvol3835
@danvol3835 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe that it took some people all this time to see Doc's shortcomings as a championship coach. Top 15? Psshaw! Yeah, he's a good coach, but not great. Teams should use him as a rebuilding coach, then hand over the team to a more competent coach... Kinda like what Golden State did when they hired Kerr to put them over the top.
@MrDewayne
@MrDewayne 2 жыл бұрын
Doc also haven't coach a team pass the second round since 2012
@couragedadawg6210
@couragedadawg6210 Жыл бұрын
AND.... HE'S GONE AND NOW HE'S BACK
@MrNat10
@MrNat10 2 жыл бұрын
25:42 the “awww my gawd” had me weak 😂😂😂 nice touch
@TheSchism-y7p
@TheSchism-y7p Жыл бұрын
Came back to your channel after leaving it a while back: I have to say the videos are done much better now. With an emphasis on nuance, there's a lot more avenues you can go down, making it easier in terms of presenting your case! You're probably never going to read this, so normal probably realize but good job!
@ehi_ij
@ehi_ij 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanna say I was having a pretty meh day and I had no passion to do anything but seeing you post gave me a spark of excitement and enjoyment simply by seeing the notification so you might not see this but thanks
@CaiominTwin
@CaiominTwin 6 ай бұрын
12:04 Right side pic is Brandon Bass, who didn't play for the Cs until 11-12. he was on DAL in 08. need to swap this pic out
@rocco9294
@rocco9294 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question for you dylan, have you ever considered doing videos like this for other sports?
@dylandoesbasketball
@dylandoesbasketball 2 жыл бұрын
I’d have a few ideas for the NFL but I’m not sure if it would fit the channel
@deeznutz8320
@deeznutz8320 2 жыл бұрын
@@dylandoesbasketball Maybe make a second channel Dylan does Football or something. Great channel
@guyturners
@guyturners 8 ай бұрын
Whos here in 2024 with Doc and the Bucks?
@MrBronx61
@MrBronx61 7 ай бұрын
To be fair, Milwaukee got hit hard by the injury bug.
@TippedScale
@TippedScale 7 ай бұрын
​@@MrBronx61Poor Giannis
@j.jtheboyy5088
@j.jtheboyy5088 2 жыл бұрын
As a die hard clipper fan this man is responsible for my crippling depression
@Unidentified_userr
@Unidentified_userr Жыл бұрын
I’ll never get over playing Montrez against jokic. I never seen a man get cooked like that. I’m not sure that one would ever go away
@Acidknights
@Acidknights Жыл бұрын
And the legend continues 😂
@John-hk4fr
@John-hk4fr 2 жыл бұрын
He should have just stayed is Boston. The rebuild wasn't very long because Ainge really knows how to do it. The Celtics rebuilt fast and have had more success than Doc ever has after leaving. As A Cs fan when I heard he thought he was too good to do a rebuild, I knew what y'all know now. His plan in Boston of just ride the vets and trust in them to win worked because KG was such a beast. PP Rondo and Ray too, but KG ran that team emotionally. And Thibs handled the D schemes.
@picassojulien899
@picassojulien899 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly it was best that he left the celtics. They got better after he left and the rebuild was great
@EmbraceTheStruggle24
@EmbraceTheStruggle24 Жыл бұрын
It really depends on how you view it because as a Sixers fan (currently Doc is the coach of course) and amongst him; so many coaches have come and gone with the team it's actually quite ridiculous. I was amazed brett brown lasted as long as he did because he never should have gone through all the so called 'process' torcher just to build a true championship contender. Sure, brett brown had his faults; and doc rivers is no exception either - but when push comes to shove; you have to have superstar caliber players in their peak; and I believe doc rivers had that with the Celtics, papavich had upper echelon talent in San Antonio. And Phil Jackson coached a bunch of future hall of famers in Chicago and LA.
@dogcowrph
@dogcowrph Жыл бұрын
At minute 0:54 the graphic says “ATL leads 4-3”. Isn’t that winning the series? It’s not a nine game series.
@shazaalala28
@shazaalala28 3 ай бұрын
yes, it means they won. graphics just say “lead” to show when a team is winning, and atl is leading and they won.
@Jayden.Dean25
@Jayden.Dean25 2 жыл бұрын
He was a great coach when he coached the greatest team of all time in 2k15
@Not-Applicabl
@Not-Applicabl Жыл бұрын
lol this video aged so well already
@Buggie...
@Buggie... 2 жыл бұрын
Man I love this style of content keep it up
@LewisBrazelz
@LewisBrazelz 7 ай бұрын
A year later and here we are, coaching the Bucks out of the playoffs in the 1st round. Shoutout to Doc, 18 years later youre still milking that 1 ring Boston won you
@druft7303
@druft7303 2 жыл бұрын
love the new editting style, can tell you've upped your game
@papajohncena2516
@papajohncena2516 Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure Doc has won more playoff games for Atlanta as a coach than when he actually played for them.
@ninjxex
@ninjxex Жыл бұрын
Honestly thank you for your videos I’ve always found basketball interesting but having these stories explained for a basic simpleton like me is amazing and I can’t get enough ❤
@Jebronjarden
@Jebronjarden 6 ай бұрын
I mean is it really that crazy that hes had a 1000 wins when hes been coaching for like 30 years. Bro he had to win less than 35 games a season to do that. Its just that not a lot of coaches have this many years as head coach. Hes blown the most 3-1 leads and lost the most game 7s. Granted their not always his fault like kawhi and pg just had a melt down theres nothing he could do and joel was injured and ben had a melt down. So theres context needed but still one chip and the career length aint enough
@Herb23
@Herb23 Жыл бұрын
We need an update vid
@jimmorris1424
@jimmorris1424 Ай бұрын
You need to upgrade this video now with Bucks tenure. Soon. Doc's best work so far lol
@levnz
@levnz 2 жыл бұрын
amazing quality as always
@raneynewman8315
@raneynewman8315 10 ай бұрын
This is aging well
@lecatbuddyforever9258
@lecatbuddyforever9258 2 жыл бұрын
Love the content and hope it keeps coming
@aldyrasyid
@aldyrasyid Жыл бұрын
Perhaps it was Garnett, Pierce, Rondo, Allen who were good and not Doc 🤣
@gutenbird
@gutenbird Жыл бұрын
Doc is as good of a coach as he is a doctor.
@verawallace9055
@verawallace9055 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@lotusjumpingspider8761
@lotusjumpingspider8761 Жыл бұрын
😂
@yousifgorgees6862
@yousifgorgees6862 Жыл бұрын
Nah that’s crazy 😭😭😭
@gutenbird
@gutenbird Жыл бұрын
@@yousifgorgees6862 Yeah. He's a worse coach than a doctor.
@Germz_.
@Germz_. Жыл бұрын
Wait he's not a doctor dam 😂
@somedudefromTX
@somedudefromTX 8 ай бұрын
Milwaukee Bucks currently on that Glenn Rivers Struggle Train
@InsaneTrickShots
@InsaneTrickShots 2 жыл бұрын
No one’s ever done less with more than doc rivers.
@Ghostaredead
@Ghostaredead Жыл бұрын
Can you give an example of wtf your talking about
@uncoolanon4158
@uncoolanon4158 Жыл бұрын
idk if youre joking or not, but pls be joking
@JonCom3dy
@JonCom3dy Жыл бұрын
Your editing skills are improving substantially! How you gonna blame Ben Simmons when it’s the coach who decides who is on and/or off the court lol. Also, Eric Spoelstra is light years ahead of Doc.
@20marvelman
@20marvelman Жыл бұрын
His videos need work, he gets so much wrong, the Celtics weren’t 4 all stars in 2008 until rondo made it in 2011
@StraightBleach
@StraightBleach Жыл бұрын
Management is not gonna be ok with you sitting 35 million on the bench, this isnt high school. and at that point our other options would have been a rookie maxey and shake milton running the point.
@ArmandoKozomara
@ArmandoKozomara 2 жыл бұрын
I mean they put together a big 3/big 4 in Boston that had more talent than any other teams so it's no shocker that 2008 Champs were the Celtics. But if you can win multiple championships, then you prove it wasn't a fluke but you're actually dominating your era.
@AL-yk9on
@AL-yk9on Жыл бұрын
man your videos are so well put together
@ThatPrettyMFR
@ThatPrettyMFR 2 жыл бұрын
Another great in-depth video, Thank you Dylan!
@Apollo05
@Apollo05 Жыл бұрын
I'm watching this the day Doc blew another 3-1 lead against the Celtics 😮‍💨
@wicked521
@wicked521 Жыл бұрын
3-2*
@Apollo05
@Apollo05 Жыл бұрын
@@wicked521 the curse is lifted 😭😂
@tashingamuchena6387
@tashingamuchena6387 2 жыл бұрын
“Fool me 3 times, shame on Doc” nah lol this one is personal 😂
@andrewvaldez8689
@andrewvaldez8689 Жыл бұрын
Time to make a Part 2
@GothPaoki
@GothPaoki 2 жыл бұрын
Most overrated coach in the history of the league period. Managed to get only one chip with that Celtics squad and he's been cashing in on that for 14 years. The fact they still give him control of lucrative projects is absolutely insane.
@richardovercast2258
@richardovercast2258 Жыл бұрын
Doc has been leaning on that 1 chip for awhile now. Hes a great regular season coach but not a good playoff coach.
@TheCriminalViolin
@TheCriminalViolin 2 жыл бұрын
Doc is like Rick Carslie and Terry Stotts - Anti-Adjustment, and never ever ever will dare to even consider adapting to the game. It is why I cannot strand them as coaches. They're outright infuriating to watch their teams, especially in the playoffs because of it.
@vevosucksish
@vevosucksish 11 ай бұрын
Doc Rivers was great for turning a losing team into a winning team, but could never be the coach to take them to the promised land. The 14 other coaches on that list would’ve won more championships with that Celtics team
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 11 ай бұрын
So could Rudy Tomjanovich and Alex Hannum who I’d also have taken over Doc. Fine coaching career and not without his successes, but I would not call him one of the few best to ever do it.
@sydguitar99
@sydguitar99 2 жыл бұрын
As a Philly fan I am really hoping they fire this man before the playoffs bc we still have a Harden who's playing amazing, an MVP candidate in Embid, young budding star in Maxey and some quality role players.
@Stutterstun
@Stutterstun Жыл бұрын
and... he does it again
@mikewilson8205
@mikewilson8205 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I think you could’ve went into a little more detail on Docs coaching during those early battles with Cleveland lebron. Really just out coached Cleveland
@InsomniacTC
@InsomniacTC 10 ай бұрын
One chip with 4 all-stars in the starting 5, Lob City with a deep bench, Hardens MVP seasons. Whoever said hes a good coach it outta their mind. And Ty Lue might be the next one
@FreeKingShlime
@FreeKingShlime 2 жыл бұрын
The goat has returned for the new year 🙏
@thekidblack111
@thekidblack111 Жыл бұрын
Who here around game 7 smh 😂
@nanitv2025
@nanitv2025 Жыл бұрын
Man it really hits different if you take success first to be followed by series of failures it would have been better if the other way around.
@CYMotorsport
@CYMotorsport 2 жыл бұрын
4:51 he somehow has a habit of tricking ppl into thinking his teams are worse than they are. We’re calling the 99 magic bad ? Why? Bc you lose great players doesn’t mean you don’t have any left. Ppl just assumed when they lost franchise talent they’d be horrendous but that’s how good that team was with Shaq & co. They were also in a weaker conference with the next closest team 12 games under 500 and only 3 teams making the playoffs vs 5 from the west.
@urbg1661
@urbg1661 Жыл бұрын
Gonna need an update here real soon 😆
@apples874
@apples874 Жыл бұрын
You're cruel
@coledrinkswater
@coledrinkswater Жыл бұрын
love how this video comes up in my feed hours after Doc loses ANOTHER game 7
@tonywong8134
@tonywong8134 2 жыл бұрын
The most overrated coach in NBA history: the most blown 3-1, 2-0, and 3-2 leads. He has played with 12 HOFs and only has 1 title after 20+ years coaching.
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