How to Destroy an NBA Legacy: The Downfall of Doc Rivers

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[@coreythompsonTheOneandOnly]

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[@davesantan6532]

@@coreythompsonTheOneandOnly t Nancy😮

[@iwishiwasthomasshelby]

No one has done less with more. The 2008 Celtics win despite of Doc, not because of him.

[@VandoDaGoat]

@@iwishiwasthomasshelby pplllólmi9o9 oo o

[@twerktospec]

Money money money Yeah yeah

[@chad_b]

Doc raising the floor but lowering the ceiling is a great way of describing it

[@ItIsYouAreNotYour]

Doc stacking the teams and claiming getting to the championship involves luck is why he's a joke.

[@sgshumblecrumb6046]

It's true. When he has an undermanned or injured roster, they play way over their heads (See 48 win Clippers team that had no stars), but when he has lots of talent, he becomes a spineless coward who can't do anything but argue with the refs while his all bench lineups and his hero-balling star players blow another 20+ point lead in the second half. I almost look forward to the games where Philly has one or more of their best players out because they suddenly have ball movement and team chemistry, and I don't knock Joel and James for it as much because I know Glenn has no offensive approach besides "give the ball to Joel, give to ball to James." There's video of Harden saying to him that he thinks they should run pick and roll and Glenn is saying "first, we need to establish a pecking order." He literally enforces a slow, inefficient, iso-ball offense when he has more talented players that he can do that with. So many times Maxey has enough daylight to attack the rim and he just defers to Harden or Embiid because Glenn is in his ear telling him to give it to James or Joel. I don't think even Embiid and Harden want to play that way, it's just that Glenn thinks it's still 2008 and that he can eek out a championship run with 3 all stars playing that way, even though he needed a record amount of playoff games to do so, including a 7 game first round series against the 8th seed. His teams win in spite of him, not because of him (unless he has a mediocre or worst roster).

[@4392amtrak]

@sgshumblecrumb6046 I know you'll definitely agree with this, but I bet you even someone with hardly any basketball knowledge could've won that 08 chip with 3 1/2 hofs in which Rondo is that half. Thibs was the mastermind defensively, and KG was that alpha dog they needed. If either Van Gundy, Mike Brown, D'Antoni, or Dwane Casey had won a chip and had Doc's longevity, they would've been looked at as all time great coaches and probably would've accomplished as much as Doc.

[@tmasst07]

Arguably the greatest analogy or saying of the new year LOL excellent point

[@ChrisTheElectrician]

Please fire this man. My 76ers would’ve won already won if it wasn’t for him

[@itstaemonson]

I’ll never forget when Josh Smith said that Doc’s wife left him because he didn’t know how to make “ late game adjustments”

[@atraina6921]

I’ve been saying this from the start. No team or coach has milked a career and legacy off of one nba championship, more than Doc Rivers and the 08 Celtics. They make you think off of just one ring they were a dynasty and that Doc Rivers is a hall of fame coach.

[@4392amtrak]

And like I said, it took them seven games for them to get past an 8 seeded Hawks team and a LeBron led Cavs team. And as far as Doc goes, he'll get in the hof one day regardless based off of his longevity in the regular season with him already won 1000 games as a coach.

[@LankyMofo]

I’ve always said this. Preach!

[@robertharris4390]

I agree 100% he is vastly overrated the man hasn’t been past the 2nd round since the 2012 ECF. Most game 7 losses & how many 3-1 leads has he blown ?

[@J-Hue]

I mean, Doc coaching teams up well past their talent level can't be ignored on squads like those pre-Kawhi Clippers and the other squad he won COY for, thr Magic I think.

[@swim3699]

to be fair he went twice won 1

[@ShadowThe771]

This video aged like fine wine. After watching the Sixers lose in the semi-finals again, “Doc Rivers coasting off his past success” has been the most factual narrative in the last decade. Fun fact, this is the third time that Jimmy Butler has gone to the conference finals after the Sixers dumped him.

[@ralphwiggum1982]

I can honestly say I’ve never heard anyone say doc is a great coach like you said he’s still riding on that championship he brought to Boston an seeing how he bounces from team to team more then Westbrook now is a clear sign he’s a mediocre coach who got lucky with that championship I’d rather have Ty Lou coaching then doc any day

[@jaredwilliams1758]

The Mike McCarthy of the nba idk how people keep hiring him. I’d rather give someone a chance to be a head coach for the first time then hire doc who has statistically proven he cant get it done outside of having rondo Allen Garnett and pierce and still that was one time

[@chrisdenis3634]

its still aging well with the horrible start for the bucks

[@LewisBrazelz]

Here we go again, a year later and Doc doing what he does best again! Killed the Bucks season as soon as be showed up lol

[@zeked4200]

​@@LewisBrazelz Lillard and Giannis don't seem to mesh. Both might be too ball dominant to make it work. With that said, Doc didn't do a thing to adjust...try to get them playing to their strengths...maybe? Smh you or I could have coached that Celtics team in 08. Just roll the balls out and let them go to work. Anytime he's needed to coach up his squad, in big moments or big games, they come up short.

[@shermanngjazz]

Never forget that the Clippers immediately made the WCF after Doc left.

[@Bugzilla021]

If Kawhi didn't get injured, I would've given them a great chance at beating the Suns

[@captainsimp8864]

@@Bugzilla021 Hell they would have beaten the Suns if Kawhi didn't get injured. And Rivers got lucky that they didn't make it to the finals because that would have made him look like an even bigger fool especially after what he said about Tyronn Lue

[@pool5863]

overcame two 0-2 deficits too. ty lue the goat

[@shermanngjazz]

@@pool5863 Ty Lue the goat at 0-2 comebacks lol

[@isiahspencer3028]

And yeah y'all went to not making the playoffs after he left too 😆😆😆😆😆 the coach you guys got now sucks and if they don't win a championship this year he's probably going to be fired

[@whodeani2216]

The fact that this video dropped 4 months ago and Doc Rivers lost yet ANOTHER Game 7 😭😂😂

[@cyrillesu]

Never forget last year when the Sixers jumped to a 3-0 lead on the Raptors in the 1st round and the main conversation was, rather than how dominant the team looked, how they were going to be the first team ever to blow a 3-0 lead in a playoff series. The Doc Rivers effect.

[@J-Hue]

Philly's problem isn't Doc. It's that their team is led by two career playoff chokers in Embiid and Harden. Both were choking away series before he got there. The same is true of his Clippers squads sans the Kawhi-PG one where Kawhi and PG hadn't figured out how to play together yet. Doc didn't draw up a play for CP3 to botch 2 late game plays in back to back games trying to draw fouls when nothing was there. And CP3, as great as he is, was collapsing in the playoffs before and after Doc. Twice in N.O. against the Spurs and Nuggets and then in the Finals up 2-0 and then up 3-2 last season. In both the Denver and Mavs series, his team's dropped the final game(s) in record blowouts where the teams seemed to lack any kind of fight at all. Doc's biggest problem, again, has been coaching teams with career playoff chokers. When he had guys with killer instinct, they won it all and then made it back to the Finals despite being old as dirt as like a 4 seed. Philly will most likely fail come playoff time. Doc will most likely get blamed, but odds are it'll be because Embiid and Harden will do their usual number of playing small in the big moments and games.

[@seand7042]

@@J-Hue I don't know if that ECF vs Toronto a choke or not that was one of the luckiest shots I've ever seen in my life

[@thasneemrizvi]

and the crazy part was they almost did blow a 3-0 lead or atleast go to game 7

[@JoseFranco9]

@@J-Hue Harden is not a carrer playoff choker gtfo. The fact that his team lost in his prime 5 times vs Golden State who is a top 3 team ever is heavily ignored. You only realy could argue he choked vs San Antonio 2017 but other than that he played to his max and never got swept. Embiid on the other hand.....

[@sgshumblecrumb6046]

@@J-Hue Even when he won it all, he needed 7 games to beat a 37-45 team in the first round of the playoffs when he had a 66 win team. When they lost in the Finals 2 years later, you know what Phil Jackson said about them during the series if you actually watched the video and you saw what happened. Then there's the Clippers/Nuggets series. That's a cheap excuse to explain choking a 3-1 lead with Kawhi Leonard who damn sure isn't a choker. Embiid and Harden also didn't choke away shit before Glenn arrived. Embiid has been stuck in a dumb organization (that hires Glenn among other things) with no floor spacing on the roster as a back to basket post player and two overmatched coaches (Glenn and Brett Brown.) Harden.....maybe there's some playoff demons there, but his overall numbers in the playoffs are not far off from his career average, and he still went toe to toe with one of the hardest to beat teams ever in the Warriors dynasty during their Durant era. They went 7 games in the WCF against them and had a 3-2 lead before CP3 went down. They probably go on to beat a short handed Cavs team that GS curb stomped for the title. Doc coaches playoff chokers. Those playoff chokers all played for Doc Rivers lol.

[@bobuJonesu]

Who’s here after doc blew yet another 3-2 lead?

[@thatindiandude4602]

Here 😊

[@1987palerider]

Me😂😂

[@Cashmoneez]

I know we all kinda expected a philly implosion again but It didn't it would be another 3-2 doc x embiid disaster class

[@RYMAN1321]

And then was fired

[@HorizonOfHope]

That Rudy Tomjanovic isn’t on the all-time top 15 is outrageous. He had just one star, and admittedly it was Hakeem, but he squeezed every bit of talent out of that squad. Against Pat Riley, no less.

[@OH_MY_DOGGG]

If only his Lakers stint could have been fulfilled.

[@acnicodemus4734]

@@OH_MY_DOGGG regardless. He's a champion coach in Houston for crying out loud. He should be instantly in the list.

[@adgee5401]

We discounting Clyde?

[@F28aj]

@@acnicodemus4734yeah so with that logic Tyron Lue is on the list too lol

[@acnicodemus4734]

@@F28aj lol, Rudy was a decorated coach, also won a coach of the year award

[@monkehp]

That comment by Phil Jackson was brutal. "This team has lost more games in the 4th quarter than anybody in the NBA. They know how to lose in the 4th quarter."

[@kenrickkahn]

😂😂😂😂 He was just brutally honest..

[@lhourdeanthony4237]

@@kenrickkahn he was brutally honest. then years later, he and the Lakers got swept by Dallas in the 2011 Western conference semifinals, giving Dallas their only championship ring,

[@atomsk1972]

@@lhourdeanthony4237 They're talking about blown 4th quarter leads and you're talking about a play-off series loss. Apples and oranges.

[@lhourdeanthony4237]

@@atomsk1972 it just goes to show you, being brutally honest without looking at the karma that lies ahead could be even more brutally painful...that goes to show you that what goes around, comes around...

[@shotguncrucifix]

@@lhourdeanthony4237 nah you're just talking some bullshit lmfao

[@TheMilchBroetchen]

I always wondered, how much coaching did the 2008 celtics actually needed with the amount of talent they had?

[@iamidnight9731]

They also have a plethora of great assistant coaches, like the defense master himself, Tom Thiboudeau. Doc was literally handed a golden platter of talent and coaching.

[@mxhughes]

If the vets have high iq and minimize the ego then there's only so much a coach needs to do unless it's a specific playstyle.Luke Walton got immediate coaching gigs because of him playing step in coaching the warriors in 2016.Dude had absolutely no influence on anything.A fan in the stands coulda did the same shit Walton did which was literally nothing

[@apple-xx2or]

None they could of coached themselves like the the 17 warriors

[@joelthorstenson5278]

@@mxhughes as a Lakers fan I was flabbergasted when he got the coaching job. He was clueless when he played with Kobe and often looked lost on the floor. NOT at all someone I would give a coaching job to

[@Ghostaredead]

Exactly 😂 many coaches could have won with that team

[@siphillis]

Doc's inability to maintain success really makes you appreciate how Pop, Jackson, and Auerbach got the most out of their teams year after year, roster after roster.

[@justfate5912]

Bro I literally saw this vid in my recommended and it being 31 minutes long immediately made me think of Doc River's 3-1 stature in the league.

[@Zenrei03]

That might have been intentional 🤣

[@hectorcarrillo4714]

This is some funny ironic shit 😂

[@asaptenebrae2240]

No pun intended 😆

[@dejamike88]

It’s amazing that Doc is still cashing in that 2008 Celtics championship credit till this day lol

[@jonathanwashington9199]

Kobe Has 5 Would've Had 6 If It Wasn't For Doc Rivers LOL Hell Kobe Bryant Would've Had Two Three Peats In Two Different Eras 2000-2002 And 2008-2010

[@ruelandrade5185]

Loldwl i never see one man milk one ring so badly so tyron liu is one of the greatest coach he win a much harder ring lol coming back from 1 3 down while doc losing from 3 1 up lol

[@dejamike88]

@@ruelandrade5185 💯true that lol

[@TheRealtalk617]

@@jonathanwashington9199 more like Kevin Garnett. Doc is not responsible for that ring. Once KG got hurt and didnt fully recover to what he was before the injury, the Celtics were done. Made another run to the finals but it wasn't the same KG.

[@Dru2037]

​@@jonathanwashington9199 it was Bynum's knee more than Doc.

[@kingoffedoras9932]

Not gonna lie, seeing Docs downfall in his first year in Philly brought tears to my eyes. I've never felt pure joy like that before

[@benjamin-qn7nf]

On god 😂 I was tellin all my homies the Hawks would upset Philly, only cause I knew Doc was a choke artist

[@theuncancelable]

Still one of the greatest coaches of all time

[@jeezyhuncho2783]

@@theuncancelable hell naw

[@theuncancelable]

@@jeezyhuncho2783 can't disagree with facts boi

[@jeromeforonda2752]

@@theuncancelable no.

[@couragedadawg6210]

Bucks fans are sweating right now

[@proa007]

And now they're doing a lot more than that.

[@MrCasey__]

Bucks going to the Finals

[@Brian-m9v]

@@MrCasey__ HAhah who are you kidding

[@victor_autopilotliving5786]

Bucks just lost in a blowout a few days ago 😞

[@TippedScale]

​@@victor_autopilotliving5786it might be joever for you guys

[@Vdubatron]

THANK YOU!!! I've been saying this since Lob-City in LAC, when I was forced to pay attention to Docs coaching. Then I moved from SoCal to Philly and Doc followed me! I was preaching the first year here to anyone that would listen how Doc only runs 1 play and doesn't know what to do when a team figures that 1 play out. Now it seems like the book is out. Doc has got to go. He's GOT TO GO!

[@Dejays_lifestyle]

We're going through that with Joe mazzulla

[@MrRedpaul84]

I think his resume speaks for itself. He does NOT deserve to be in the same conversation as Popovich, Riley, or Jackson.

[@ruelandrade5185]

🙄 how did doc name get beside these 3 great coaches

[@HooodClassicsTV]

He is not where near the coach but he has a better basketball career than them cuz he played. Yes Phil and Riley did too but they weren’t as good as Doc

[@andersonlebrun8370]

Thank you for making this doc is holding the sixers back so much

[@idontlikeuidiot2060]

right weve had so many good players let go because of of his trash coaching players like isiah joe charles bassey and paul reed still not getting minutes

[@dylanhotrum7354]

@@idontlikeuidiot2060 this dude really thinks Isaiah joe Is a sixer still 😂

[@denan30]

Charles bassey on the Spurs

[@rahultalkssports1404]

Philly has everything besides a good HC

[@idontlikeuidiot2060]

@@dylanhotrum7354 my grammar is trash but I meant to say they were let go

[@pureo_nikku]

Thank you for adding some more context to the earlier Doc years. As a 76ers fan I can now point out he wasn’t special his first few in Boston and nearly blew it the Finals run🙄

[@arnabiarnab3037]

The Celtics ram should’ve won a minimum two rings

[@crablord7934]

IMO Rivers knows how to coach a bunch of underdogs since he knows giving the ball to them all the time or going superstar centric doesn't work with those teams, yet when he has next level talent he relies on utilizing them so much he doesn't know how to adjust whenever opposing teams sniff out his rigid schemes. A lot of his collapses are opposing teams making swift in game adjustments to hit them where it hurt, with Doc responding by contributing as much as a papaya on the bench area.

[@calicocalpico]

It's like when you first start playing a fighting game and don't know any special moves, you rely on fundamentals and solid basics. Then when you learn the projectiles and uppercuts, you become reliant and predictable on over-usage. All the dynamic skill goes out the window and becomes focused on "I'm going to hit them with this hadoken right after I get up"

[@JECZ23]

I'm born/raised in Boston & I'll be the first to admit that Doc just happened to be at the right place at right time to coach Boston big 3. He's not the worst coach but shouldn't be in high regard either.

[@garysanders7935]

By the editing on this one it seems personal for Dylan

[@justhereforthememes536]

As a Celtics fan, we should’ve won 3 chips minimum with those big 3/4 teams. Refs screwed in 2010, Perk and KG injuries were massive, but every team experiences hardship and even an average coaching performance could’ve held the team down. “Thanks for 08 I guess” is spot on, so much potential left on the table even if they did hit the home run once.

[@catchcan221]

Screwed my ass. Lakers shot 32.5% in Game 7 and ya’ll still couldn’t finish them. Ya’ll held Kobe to 6/24 shooting and still lose. Ya’ll had a 13 point lead late in the game snd still lost.

[@MistaTofMaine]

​@@catchcan221yep if I recall right nobody could hit crap that game 7 and pau gasol was probably best player.

[@Gravijahz]

Doc suffers from what many great people do: They begin to think their greatness is to be expected, rather than earned. Their ideas, their views cannot be questioned because of their success. And when there are failures, it must be the players, other coaches, etc because it surely could not be Doc Rivers and his greatness. When you have stopped being able to learn, adapt, be wrong, etc you have already lost. You're in the rear view mirror, ready to be replaced by those who have those qualities.

[@msc2u1]

💯💯💯

[@lil_james1584]

Facts 💯

[@bookmoon7244]

Coaches shouldn't have huge ego no matter how successful they are. They are nothing without good players, Lebron could carry trash team to NBA finals, Gregg Popovich can't.

[@DMalltheway]

Tom Thibs is one of the main reasons why the Celtics were that good and won a chip

[@kyhxx]

. etc

[@jusbandoreborn8947]

This man can’t stop choking, another 3-1 blown lead this time to the celtics 😂

[@BeatsbyVegas]

Was a 3-2 lead this time not 3-1

[@henrysmith4984]

It’s always a good day when Dylan posts

[@slashismyhommie8182]

Doc was overrated most his coaching career. He won ONE championship with a team that in all honesty SHOULD have been a dynasty type of team. Instead, that team was one and done. He refused to coach during a rebuild (one that was fairly a quick one). Went to a Clippers team that was built to "win now" then he got Kawai Leonard and PG13 to "win now" again. Then went to a Philadelphia team with superstars that again, is one of the better constructed teams talent wise. Doc Rivers has been overrated because he rode coattails of Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce.

[@joelman1989]

I’m literally saving these videos to show my kids in 10 years. Because lots of channels explain this stuff. But you have a talent for making a person feel like they are right in the moment not just learning about it after. Paying attention not just to the facts but the humans and their desires, emotions, fears etc.

[@TonyPajamas24]

Bot 🤡

[@20marvelman]

He gets a lot of things wrong for a summary channel, they didn’t have 4 all stars until 2011

[@Big73Red]

I’ve always looked at Doc the same way I looked at Tony Dungy in the NFL. Both are great regular season head coaches. But once in the playoffs they have one of their glaring weaknesses come out and ruin their team’s chances of winning.

[@EmbraceTheStruggle24]

Definitely a good and logical comparison :)

[@krisa7910]

Honestly, never thought Doc was that great of a coach. The wins he got were with super loaded teams.

[@iamidnight9731]

He rode the coat tails of great players AND assistant coaches. Proof that he aint that great is his inability to make adjustments when it matters most, hence the 3-1 curse. 🤣

[@DMalltheway]

Thibs helped him with that defensive scheme

[@etiennebunbury1285]

Typical of white people to say that a black man’s success as a manager or coach of a team is in spite of him! What have you inspired or won…

[@lalovillaverde2877]

Well here for an update. Doc just blew a 3-2 lead at home against the Celtics…. Doc was fired from the 76ers. (2023 playoffs)

[@thomas_the_cat]

doc has been living-off that 2008 reputation ever since...

[@lamchunting856]

Seriously how does he keep getting a job

[@Bearsfan15654]

@@lamchunting856 diversity and he kisses ass to the right people. Mind you I’m saying this as a black man, the man is a dynasty killer.

[@kingston4313]

@@lamchunting856 he’s top 10 coaches of all time

[@terenceflynn4555]

Doc is to basketball what Joe Maddon is to baseball: they can get you to the playoffs, but when the lights are brightest they can make head-scratching decisions that can cost their team the season. They also both won rings despite their poor performances ALMOST cutting those hopes short.

[@kenrickkahn]

Let them get you into the playoffs and switch them out for somebody else.. 😂😂 to make sure it's no screw ups..

[@nadiA-em6uh]

As a Sixers fan this hurts cause I need to see a championship soon

[@hrebientony]

Your window will close before you know it. Get that man out of there.

[@Pleebian94]

Go win one in 2K because Doc is gonna Doc.

[@mangobananana]

you got self claimed mvp overrated never won a 1st team nba Embiid + overrated trash coach doc gluck

[@ashrunzeda4099]

Embiid will suffer the fate of Iverson I tell you. Wasted potential.

[@mrsky67]

You’re not winning anything with Doc rivers 💀

[@staringatthesun861]

Update: 2023 -- Blown 3-2 lead in 2nd round versus Boston 2024 -- 1st round flameout against Indiana

[@timothy9979]

Dylan starting off 2023 with a banger

[@leeswift7883]

Wait a minute, why'd THIS video somehow come across my algorithm today?

[@cjmoss51]

The Magic bit is insane. Both because a team with Duncan, McGrady, Grant Hill, Doc would have been insane AND the fact that all 3 of the players are in the HOF regardless. Doc himself has a claim to a HOF induction just as a coach for how many wins he racked up over the years.

[@starastro4591]

Yeah and grant hill was always injured. We never got to even see a full season of what him and mcgrady would have looked like together

[@ItIsYouAreNotYour]

He doesn't deserve HOF. Longevity has nothing to do with HOF. He won once with a stacked af roster. The fact this guy gets job after job is remarkable.

[@ayeyobossman6151]

dude has had top talent on every team he has coached other than (arguably) the magic. Of course he’s gonna have a lot of wins

[@4392amtrak]

@itsyourenotyourstupid9045 If Mike Brown, D'antoni, Van Gundy brothers, or Dwane Casey was coaching the 08 team and had the longevity of Doc, they would've been looked as all-time great coaches and would've been as accomplished as him.

[@DMalltheway]

Sad that he wouldn’t let Duncan’s family travel with the team otherwise he’d retire a Magic.

[@johnpaulkerrigan7975]

As a Celtics fan who watched these finals runs year after year it’s hard to not think we could have had atleast one more championship if it wasn’t for docs inconsistency

[@presidential3228]

no its called kobe bryant 😂😂😂

[@ultimateyagerman]

​@@presidential3228 kobe lost the first meeting in 2008, kid 🫵🤡 Go finish your juice box

[@MrDewayne]

Doc also haven't coach a team pass the second round since 2012

[@kevinlawrence8580]

It seems to me it appears that Doc Rivers can't handle the pressure of high expectations. Or it could be he does not prepare his team well.

[@DwayneIsK1NG]

It still blows my mind that someone can blow a 3-1 lead. You were dominating a team and can't win just 1 freaking more? 🤦🏿 it's tough to blow 1 of those, but this dude has done it MULTIPLE times. That's a talent right there

[@aidanwatson910]

How many minutes did Doc play?

[@DwayneIsK1NG]

@@aidanwatson910Zero. And yes, a lot of blame are on the players, but Doc is NOTORIOUS for NEVER making adjustments to his lineups. Players can only do so much when their lineup is outmatched by a better coach. And besides, he's the ONLY constant in all these blown leads. So you kind of have to put blame on him

[@pittland44]

@@DwayneIsK1NG There isn't really any way around your points. Doc doesn't adjust. Case in point during their series against the Nuggets in the semis in the bubble, Paul George completely fell apart and went stone cold from the field (I mean he wasn't hitting anything, nor was he rebounding well). Did Doc take him out and have any of his bench players take over in an attempt to spark the offense? Nope. He kept playing him starters minutes, in late game situations, despite the fact that his shooting cratered. Same thing with Simmons against the Hawks. Simmons fell apart like an old Schwinn left out in the rain. Doc kept him out there. I mean Trey Young, who's a fraction of the size of Ben Simmons, made him look like an absolute punk. For whatever reason Doc doesn't pull guys when they're not playing well.

[@kingtachalla6181]

​@@aidanwatson910ppl defending doc in 2023 is crazy asf

[@aidanwatson910]

@@kingtachalla6181 I'm not defending him I'm saying a much of a notorious choke job coach he is so are a lot of players he's coached. And I'm also not going to act like NBA coaching in general is effective without the right couple Elite level plays, like the Celtics has and were able to overcome Doc's coaching for 1 championship when we should have had 3. Blame dispersion.

[@couragedadawg6210]

AND.... HE'S GONE AND NOW HE'S BACK

[@Bale4Bond]

What has Doc actually done successfully besides from coaching that one Celtics team to a championship?

[@4392amtrak]

And in that run, it took them seven games to get past an 8 seeded team and a LeBron led team in which he shot 35% that series. U can also make an argument that Thibs was the unofficial head coach that team.

[@thelosingimpossible]

@@4392amtrak LeBron wasn't shooting 35% because he wasn't feeling well, he shit 35 cuz the defence was perfectly focused on him and his team was shite

[@4392amtrak]

@@thelosingimpossible That's a good point. That Celtics team was one of the greatest defensive teams of all time with KG, Perk, Tony Allen, Posey, etc.

[@sydguitar99]

He had prime KG, Pierce, Ray Allen and a young Prodigy in Rondo..What coaching did he actually have to do LMAO

[@mangobananana]

@@sydguitar99 exactly lol if anything Doc limited them to just one championship

[@phillipbell4394]

This is random, but I do kind of wish that Larry Bird coached for longer because I really do think he had a shot of being a top 15 coach over Doc Rivers. In three years he took Jordan to a game 7 in the conference finals. He made it once again to the Conference finals in the second strangest season ever, and then he took Shaq and Kobe to 6 games in the finals. I get that he never one a ring, but he was the real deal. He was good.

[@avthecool129]

well said

[@chaegwan-jin1487]

This deserves a rewatch now, given current events around the Bucks... lol

[@FreshPrincex4]

Giannis about to spend the rest of his prime experiencing choked leads

[@guyturners]

Whos here in 2024 with Doc and the Bucks?

[@MrBronx61]

To be fair, Milwaukee got hit hard by the injury bug.

[@TippedScale]

​@@MrBronx61Poor Giannis

[@lessondburn3971]

Wow. I never heard his quote about Ty Lue was sitting next to me so nothing will change when he's the coach... Mf is sad. Lacking self accountability is literally the worst quality in a head coach. Bc we all know when u win, the coach gets none of the credit. And when u lose, he gets all of the blame... Well, except for this guy obviously. Philly does seem to be the perfect landing spot for him tho, bc he's also with a couple of known playoff chokers who tend to get injured or come up small when it matters the most. Embiid and harden also severely lack accountability. Like it's hilarious that they blamed Simmons in 2022, yet they had the same outcome last season.. and they all lookin like the spiderman meme, pointing at each other til this day, which is why the same exact thing will happen. Embiid will get a toe nail injury, Harden will put up 6 pts in the deciding game of a second round series vs the Cavs or sum shit.. Then Rivers will get a contract extension.

[@RacksonRacksonRibss]

Right. Lacking self-accountability is the worst trait any leader or manager can have - no matter the industry. I dunno how he gets away with it (oh right that one ring 15 years ago where he had 3 HOF’ers in their prime on the same squad).

[@lessondburn3971]

@@RacksonRacksonRibss 🤣🤣 Every member of that team juiced tf out of that one ring, w the exception of Ray.. u would think they won about 3 the way they talk Abt themselves

[@paulyramone1]

Last season Embiid had a busted face and hand, and Harden was far from fully fit and had only been with the team for about three months. To lose that series to a very good Miami Heat team under those circumstances was no disgrace. I get a lot of the criticism of Rivers, and agree with some of it, but this video is just a hit-piece with a clickbait title designed to maximize views. As a Sixers fan I hope this current group (which is much deeper and more connected without crybaby Simmons) wins it all and silences the haters.

[@lessondburn3971]

@@paulyramone1 Nets and Celtics i can't see losing to the sixers. Too many weapons. maxy is the only player I see that has that dawg in him. T Harris, harden etc... Ehh idk. I'm not a fan of any team particularly but for u I hope I'm wrong

[@nnnp634]

You described it perfectly. Rivers said they weren't expected to win it all in the season when they lost to bloody Hawks. Embiid blamed Simmons that season, and then blamed Harden next season. He wasn't wrong, but that's not the way to do things. While it is true that Sixers would've been champions if everyone played like Embiid, the same could be said for any other team with a top 10 player. If Joel wants to be the leader he has to carry the team both on and off the court and it's probably too late for Rivers.

[@Acidknights]

And the legend continues 😂

[@ehi_ij]

I just wanna say I was having a pretty meh day and I had no passion to do anything but seeing you post gave me a spark of excitement and enjoyment simply by seeing the notification so you might not see this but thanks

[@raneynewman8315]

This is aging well

[@MrNat10]

25:42 the “awww my gawd” had me weak 😂😂😂 nice touch

[@ninjxex]

Honestly thank you for your videos I’ve always found basketball interesting but having these stories explained for a basic simpleton like me is amazing and I can’t get enough ❤

[@InsaneTrickShots]

No one’s ever done less with more than doc rivers.

[@Ghostaredead]

Can you give an example of wtf your talking about

[@uncoolanon4158]

idk if youre joking or not, but pls be joking

[@EmmanuelAniTheSchism]

Came back to your channel after leaving it a while back: I have to say the videos are done much better now. With an emphasis on nuance, there's a lot more avenues you can go down, making it easier in terms of presenting your case! You're probably never going to read this, so normal probably realize but good job!

[@Jayden.Dean25]

He was a great coach when he coached the greatest team of all time in 2k15

[@aldyrasyid]

Perhaps it was Garnett, Pierce, Rondo, Allen who were good and not Doc 🤣

[@druft7303]

love the new editting style, can tell you've upped your game

[@richboyprado]

This aged extremely well

[@andrewvaldez8689]

Time to make a Part 2

[@nicktime5841]

Who is here after the Bucks got cooked in the first round

[@j.jtheboyy5088]

As a die hard clipper fan this man is responsible for my crippling depression

[@Unidentified_userr]

I’ll never get over playing Montrez against jokic. I never seen a man get cooked like that. I’m not sure that one would ever go away

[@papajohncena2516]

I’m pretty sure Doc has won more playoff games for Atlanta as a coach than when he actually played for them.

[@thekidblack111]

Who here around game 7 smh 😂

[@gutenbird]

Doc is as good of a coach as he is a doctor.

[@verawallace9055]

Lol

[@lotusjumpingspider8761]

😂

[@yousifgorgees6862]

Nah that’s crazy 😭😭😭

[@gutenbird]

@@yousifgorgees6862 Yeah. He's a worse coach than a doctor.

[@Germz_.]

Wait he's not a doctor dam 😂

[@dbzfan4evermj233]

You need to update this video bro 💀

[@danvol3835]

I can't believe that it took some people all this time to see Doc's shortcomings as a championship coach. Top 15? Psshaw! Yeah, he's a good coach, but not great. Teams should use him as a rebuilding coach, then hand over the team to a more competent coach... Kinda like what Golden State did when they hired Kerr to put them over the top.

[@mikewilson8205]

Great video! I think you could’ve went into a little more detail on Docs coaching during those early battles with Cleveland lebron. Really just out coached Cleveland

[@LewisBrazelz]

A year later and here we are, coaching the Bucks out of the playoffs in the 1st round. Shoutout to Doc, 18 years later youre still milking that 1 ring Boston won you

[@rocco9294]

I have a question for you dylan, have you ever considered doing videos like this for other sports?

[@dylandoesbasketball]

I’d have a few ideas for the NFL but I’m not sure if it would fit the channel

[@deeznutz8320]

@@dylandoesbasketball Maybe make a second channel Dylan does Football or something. Great channel

[@Not-Applicabl]

lol this video aged so well already

[@levnz]

amazing quality as always

[@coledrinkswater]

love how this video comes up in my feed hours after Doc loses ANOTHER game 7

[@ArmandoKozomara]

I mean they put together a big 3/big 4 in Boston that had more talent than any other teams so it's no shocker that 2008 Champs were the Celtics. But if you can win multiple championships, then you prove it wasn't a fluke but you're actually dominating your era.

[@thehaus6998]

25:00 I don't blame PG or Kawhi tbh, Rivers completly shut down training in the team, they didn't train togather, a newly formed team, which destroyed their ability to pass to eachother, read their own tendencies, and play united, with key players not being in the floor, the team was a hot mess, the fact they won 3 games with his bum coaching is spectacular

[@Buggie...]

Man I love this style of content keep it up

[@nelsonmongare9515]

And he just choked another 3 - 2 lead.

[@mrdeebo313]

Right on que

[@liamrab6]

in pathetic fashion

[@ThatPrettyMFR]

Another great in-depth video, Thank you Dylan!

[@mustafagilani443]

anyone here after doc got fired…

[@PatNeedhamUSA]

KZbin algorithm is savage for recommending this after yet another game 7 loss 😂

[@lecatbuddyforever9258]

Love the content and hope it keeps coming

[@reidye]

As a sixers fan. I was extremely excited when we got Doc…now I just don’t know what to think of him.

[@TheCriminalViolin]

Doc is like Rick Carslie and Terry Stotts - Anti-Adjustment, and never ever ever will dare to even consider adapting to the game. It is why I cannot strand them as coaches. They're outright infuriating to watch their teams, especially in the playoffs because of it.

[@AL-yk9on]

man your videos are so well put together

[@John-hk4fr]

He should have just stayed is Boston. The rebuild wasn't very long because Ainge really knows how to do it. The Celtics rebuilt fast and have had more success than Doc ever has after leaving. As A Cs fan when I heard he thought he was too good to do a rebuild, I knew what y'all know now. His plan in Boston of just ride the vets and trust in them to win worked because KG was such a beast. PP Rondo and Ray too, but KG ran that team emotionally. And Thibs handled the D schemes.

[@picassojulien899]

Honestly it was best that he left the celtics. They got better after he left and the rebuild was great

[@EmbraceTheStruggle24]

It really depends on how you view it because as a Sixers fan (currently Doc is the coach of course) and amongst him; so many coaches have come and gone with the team it's actually quite ridiculous. I was amazed brett brown lasted as long as he did because he never should have gone through all the so called 'process' torcher just to build a true championship contender. Sure, brett brown had his faults; and doc rivers is no exception either - but when push comes to shove; you have to have superstar caliber players in their peak; and I believe doc rivers had that with the Celtics, papavich had upper echelon talent in San Antonio. And Phil Jackson coached a bunch of future hall of famers in Chicago and LA.

[@nanitv2025]

Man it really hits different if you take success first to be followed by series of failures it would have been better if the other way around.

[@FreeKingShlime]

The goat has returned for the new year 🙏

[@Stutterstun]

and... he does it again

[@JonCom3dy]

Your editing skills are improving substantially! How you gonna blame Ben Simmons when it’s the coach who decides who is on and/or off the court lol. Also, Eric Spoelstra is light years ahead of Doc.

[@20marvelman]

His videos need work, he gets so much wrong, the Celtics weren’t 4 all stars in 2008 until rondo made it in 2011

[@StraightBleach]

Management is not gonna be ok with you sitting 35 million on the bench, this isnt high school. and at that point our other options would have been a rookie maxey and shake milton running the point.

[@marcmitchell679]

Magic Johnson's enormous influence is also likely the reason he was listed as a top 15 coach

[@jackson_1312]

Love this man’s videos. I mean documentaries

[@Apollo05]

I'm watching this the day Doc blew another 3-1 lead against the Celtics 😮‍💨

[@wicked521]

3-2*

[@Apollo05]

@@wicked521 the curse is lifted 😭😂

[@tashingamuchena6387]

“Fool me 3 times, shame on Doc” nah lol this one is personal 😂

[@lacerdaph23]

Tatum just drop 50 on docs head

[@sydguitar99]

As a Philly fan I am really hoping they fire this man before the playoffs bc we still have a Harden who's playing amazing, an MVP candidate in Embid, young budding star in Maxey and some quality role players.

[@urbg1661]

Gonna need an update here real soon 😆

[@apples874]

You're cruel

[@vevosucksish]

Doc Rivers was great for turning a losing team into a winning team, but could never be the coach to take them to the promised land. The 14 other coaches on that list would’ve won more championships with that Celtics team

[@fortynights1513]

So could Rudy Tomjanovich and Alex Hannum who I’d also have taken over Doc. Fine coaching career and not without his successes, but I would not call him one of the few best to ever do it.

[@somedudefromTX]

Milwaukee Bucks currently on that Glenn Rivers Struggle Train

[@irraoclair6353]

Dude I love these vids, I need more.