how to do a manual entry and why we have too

[@CT-pv9gu]

You’re lucky you can’t take that lorry into London! Haha Thanks for the advice. Was in a van today and have to do a manual entry tomorrow

[@TruckerJohno]

Indeed long gone on them days obviously now work for a different company with trucks that can go into London I don't mind it occasionally

[@Felix-rising]

Funny how they change the law and get told on KZbin. Thanks for your time and effort mate

[@countycricklewood]

Good lesson and done during daylight so can see the screen. Newbie and trying to get to grips with these rules/law, so don’t get in trouble. Cheers!

[@TruckerJohno]

You're welcome👍🏻

[@ringmaster996]

​@TruckerJohno You said basically you have to do 3 things Cross hammers ⚒️ Bed 🛏 Cross hammers ⚒️ But I've watched some other videos and the guy just done two things Rest 🛌 Cross hammers ⚒️ So I'm confused 😕

[@ringmaster996]

​@@TruckerJohno Is cross hammers, rest, cross hammers for drivers who are doing tramping and is rest and cross hammers for drivers who leave the vehicle and go home❓️ please explain 🙏🏽

[@TruckerJohno]

@@ringmaster996 crossed hammers is other work, so any work that isn't driving. The bed symbol is rest.

[@franktreadwell3442]

Well explained. Thank you

[@lorry7509]

Great vid mate keep it up

[@CcHhRrIiSs2024]

Great video mate. When has it become law to do manual entries? Im new to hgv driving and working for my 2nd company both conpanies never shown me to do manual entries they just put the tacho on rest before removing then insert it the next day. Im guessing this is wrong?

[@TruckerJohno]

Yeah it's been law a couple of years now they pretty much want your card everything you have done as when you just pop thr card in and leave it it shows a question mark, this use to be accepted as a rest period but now they now want it to show rest

[@CcHhRrIiSs2024]

@@TruckerJohno ahh right i didnt know this so its a good job i came across ure video. Thanks for the informative video and thankyou for the reply👍🏻

[@gary63693]

I got stopped by the DVSA 5 weeks ago John, where did you get this info from? Reason why i ask this, is because DVSA man downloaded my head unit and card and everything my side was spot on. Cheers matey

[@TruckerJohno]

It's just what I've been told through my company I work for

[@NR3HGV]

yeah you would think the whole point of all these gadgets is to make life easier not more confusing. silly me

[@williamfence566]

Below is the extract from the DVSA website regarding needing to action manual entries . It was updated in August 2020. "ensure that all duties conducted since the driver card was last removed from a tachograph are manually entered onto the card record, using the manual entry facility on the tachograph " Spot on Trucker John-o

[@TruckerJohno]

Ah ha I knew I was right somewhere 🤣

[@williamfence566]

@@TruckerJohno Company I work for really keen and check when downloading card. Love your Vlogs BTW

[@TruckerJohno]

We have to download every day keep a close eye on us that's how it should be for all companies really

[@Icemanr85]

Amazing thanks mate

[@ryangrey4009]

Well explained, manual entry not required for first shift right ?

[@TruckerJohno]

First ever shift or first of the week?

[@ryangrey4009]

Yes first ever , is doing a print out advisable after each shift

[@TruckerJohno]

You shouldn't need to do it for your first ever shift, as for printouts you only really need to do 1 when you get an infringement so you can write on it the reason why to hand to a dvsa officer if you get pulled over

[@ryangrey4009]

ok great thanks, newly passed myself . Just trying to gathering as much information on this topic as I can

[@TruckerJohno]

No problem happy to help

[@a320nick]

Thank you.

[@TruckerJohno]

Welcome

[@wiganer9912]

Another tip, BEFORE you put your card in, select other work on the tacho, that way when you finish your manual entry it will be on other work rather than rest

[@TruckerJohno]

True

[@collinparker7219]

Once the first 'other work' is done and you push ok, the next line has a flashing 'rest' icon. MUST you OK this icon to tell the tacho to record rest?

[@TruckerJohno]

Yes

[@manpreetdhaliwal2905]

If you using a new card first time what should be done

[@TruckerJohno]

Just enter bed until the time you started then other work until the time you put your card in

[@raithrover1976]

I'm a newbie (at the tender age of 47) and would say that if you were able to program the timer of a VHS video recorder back in the day, you'll have no problems with this😂

[@TruckerJohno]

Indeed

[@waynehammerton5698]

Thank you John

[@Q.P.R]

👍👍

[@Malline-sv3hk]

I did a CPC today do I need to log my weekend off

[@TruckerJohno]

Do you mean do you need to log doing the cpc as other work?

[@Malline-sv3hk]

No I mean do I have to log my days off cheers

[@TruckerJohno]

Got ya, yes you do so log rest (bed symbol) from when you finished your shift on Friday till when you start on a Monday 👍🏻

[@Malline-sv3hk]

@@TruckerJohno thanks for that one I’ve only had my HGV for around 1 year I heard stories thanks for confirming take care fella 👍

[@TruckerJohno]

Yeah a lot of people still seem to thing you don't need to do it but dvsa do want the record to be continuous with no missing parts

[@MountainGoat2024]

Thanks john

[@nigelcharles5824]

Does it record it either way

[@novoscotia]

What will the first line of the tacho display read if your using a new tacho card and haven't driven/used a tacho card for years?

[@TruckerJohno]

If you haven't used 1 for years I'm sure it will still show the last time is was used, and as for a new card I'm not too sure

[@johnmayberry7669]

When l pull my card at the end of my shift it goes on rest until it goes back in the machine as long as there is no missing time and you can account for what activity you have been doing 24 hrs in the day .it's quite simple

[@williamlord2537]

Thanks

[@johnmayberry7669]

M8 after 15.36 if you finished your shift at 15.40 why bother putting it on other work..when l pull my card l am on break l am not handing in paperwork or doing other work

[@matthewdoyle3877]

So you leave the keys in the truck?

[@davidfennessey2727]

If you only drive a few times a year how are you going to do a manual entry for 100 plus days

[@TruckerJohno]

Keeping a diary is acceptable 👌

[@spudtrainspotting9149]

Surely it does it all for you? It knows when the vehicle is moving, and when your stopped in traffic it goes back onto crossed hammers.

[@TruckerJohno]

If you don't do a manual entry it leaves a question mark between when you last took your card out and put it back in, they use to interpret that as rest but now they actually want to see it on rest so you have to do a manual entry to show you was on rest

[@pauldeal68]

​@TruckerJohno so if I take my card out on a Friday at 4pm and put it back in at 6 am on the Monday morning I have to then put a manual entry for the rest over the weekend??

[@ricardoraimundo4834]

Can you complete manual entry if you've accidentally left your card in overnight?

[@TruckerJohno]

Nope

[@Slim-b7s]

Whoops.. last time i done a manual entry was 3 yrs ago 😂

[@theydontlikeitupem.4725]

Same and that was by accident 😂

[@damage2323]

Flip me we are being tracked 24/7 where's the incentive to drive now!

[@TruckerJohno]

Hardly being tracked they just want the information on the card to be continuous so it doesn't show any gaps just means less questions asked when you get pulled over

[@NR3HGV]

exactly you would think with all these gadgets would make life easier?

[@rokketron]

Manual entries are not mandatory! Won't do manual entries, Won't use poa!

[@TruckerJohno]

Hero

[@truth3358]

It is not a LEGAL requirement as you stated to do a mandatory that is set in stone 2022

[@wiganer9912]

It is a legal requirement!

[@nigelcharles5824]

Can you just put it on bed before you take card out

[@TruckerJohno]

You can but you still need to enter it when you put your card back in as it will still show a "?" On the print out

[@nigelcharles5824]

@@TruckerJohno great video john

[@jonesyuk1596]

I’ve been told as long as you you place it on rest at end of shift and show at least 15/20 mjnutes of other work after adding it in on next shift (to show daily checks), manual entries are not required… I hate manual entries so I’ve happily been following that advise lol

[@Drewski28622]

@@jonesyuk1596yeah how can they argue that unless they gonna ring your boss up and actually see what time you start work which I doubt

[@matthewdoyle3877]

@@jonesyuk1596just do manual entries to cover yourself you prat