How to do a Micro Taper | An Interview with Christy Huff

[@Sears111]

OMG! So complicated. No wonder we’re having such a hard time. I’d never figure this out. All this video did was make me anxious about lowering my doses. Now I understand why people reinstate. It’s all so overwhelming getting off these Benzos with no real help in sight.

[@blbrightlights564]

I think this is all so scary not helpful and being 65 do I really want to be coping with this ghastly future.

[@MajICReiki]

Do not freeze in fear, it doesn't help either. Not everyone has a choice to stay on a medication. Seek Drs who know and can help, keep looking until you find who is right for you.

[@DelKidd]

Same here. I live alone, and now my anxiety is through the roof. I don't know HOW I'm going to even start once my thought process starts to deteriorate.

[@lisasmith814]

I honestly think the whole reinstatement and taper thing, is just prolonging the inevitable. The CNS is injured and you just got to go through it to get out. I personally would not have wanted to continue taking the poison for 3 years longer, knowing how much it had already damaged me. RIP Christy 🥺💔

[@stevietalk1]

@@blbrightlights564I’m 66 yrs. & I find i feel more in control of the process. I cut 5% and hold for 3 wks. This works well for me. I make a few wks. at a time .. I put ea. dose in an empty gelcaps. I didn have to be bothered each day. I’m not mathematics, & it’s actually easy. All the best❣️

[@stevietalk1]

I’m 66 yrs. & I find i feel more in control of the process. I cut 5% and hold for 3 wks. This works well for me. I make a few wks. at a time .. I put ea. dose in an empty gelcaps. I didn have to be bothered each day. I’m not mathematics, & it’s actually easy. All the best❣️

[@IceLynne]

I love her! It was her words I printed out and took to my doctor that was prescribing me Klonopin that gave him the knowledge he needed to agree to a lengthy taper. Thank you so much Christy!

[@marthaworc7873]

It really is the only sane way to do it.

[@MyHeroMacademia]

U were smart to do that and u're also lucky ur Dr was open to learning about it. 😊

[@JacquiQ]

RIP sweet Christy Huff - an Angel on Earth, you have helped so very many of us❣❣ I was on BZ's for 10 years. I am older, started tapering off 15mg Diaz/Val and my first cut was less than 10 % and it was too much. I should have been started on tapering 1/4 of a 2 mg tablet not a 5 mg tablet. Traumatised me. The pain was out of this world. My taper is taking years and has caused lot of issues for me.

[@gracegrace1896]

I’m in the middle of this mess and now she’s gone too. How many people do we have to lose?

[@katrinamenzies9398]

I know I feel like there is no hope 😢

[@MajICReiki]

I am amazed that I did this on my own in 2008. I had a pill cutter and a razor blade for smaller. No scale. I do recommend that you find a Dr like them to guide you through. I did well enough, despite the severe trauma. I had sought help then before going it alone. The recovery required me seeking an ethical MD/Naturopath Dr., her 'outside of the box' remedies and self administered treatment coaching was outstanding. I would still be primarily sustained on protein shakes/liquid diet, had i not found her, and several other complications that would have taken me much longer to profress my recovery. For me, it was a different medication than they discussed. It can be scary, but now there is more help and more sane psychiatric knowledge becoming more mainstream and available like they've offered here. Wishing everyone a better survival story than mine, and recovery. ❤

[@tombalthis513]

Where can I find a Ashton method Doctor I am in Ohio but am willing to travel to other states if I know I will receive the proper help.Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[@KatieJoMikell]

So, if the pharmaceutical companies know that tapering off is a very sensitive subject.. pun intended 😊 Why don’t they make these micro doses available to patients that want to taper down??

[@ajax700]

It is a BILLIONS of dollars sized business. No owner wants to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. Best wishes.

[@KatieJoMikell]

@@ajax700 Until they get sued and lose.

[@doeboy1103]

They would lose so much $$$$

[@ajax700]

@@doeboy1103 _They would lose so much $$$$_ No. They would not win. But they would lose nothing. And all society would win too. Best wishes.

[@KatieJoMikell]

People are gonna do whatever they can to get off this shit so either The pharmaceutical company could help some people out and make money off of it or they’re gonna lose anyways cause these customers aren’t coming back. Dr Witt-Doerring will make sure of that! I don’t know if he is currently with the FDA but he worked for the FDA so these pharmaceutical companies could sit back and be quiet and shut their mouths or jump in and help.

[@louisegardenia7674]

I’m so sorry to hear of her passing. May she Rest in Peace ✝️❤️

[@TE-7302-]

What do you do when pharmacies/insurance keeps switching generics? It’s happening a lot. 😢

[@MollyBrown-f9i]

Excellent video for someone who has done their research and has experience. Easy to follow. It nice to good information in one place.

[@sandrakerkez5172]

Rest in peace Dr Christy❤

[@JCatBIC]

I definitely didn't average my dry microtaper. I just weighed each one as I went along in my taper and subtracted the % of the reduction (Desired reduction/Pill total mg = X, 100-X=Y, convert Y to a %) to subtract from the weight (weight of pill - y% = goal weight). It's so much easier and more accurate. Ex 1.96 mg goal out of 2 mg pill 1.96/2 = 0.98 = this is 98% of the pill left, which means we are removing 2% of the pill. Weight the pill 0.22-2% = 0.2156 is goal weight (or 0.216)

[@TaperingHelp]

Hi Dr Josef. I can hear from your accent you are from Australia. Do you know any benzo wise drs and psychaitrists in Australia? or the Gold Coast/Brisbane area? I live in the Gold Coast. My Dr is great but not benzo-wise and AODS and the others are all into tapering you off linearly in 8 weeks. I can't believe the lack of support here. And that a doctor made me this way, in 28 days of starting Paxil (for the side effects).

[@SydneyDiva]

Did u find someone?

[@germainedenon311]

Rip Dr Huff

[@djammer]

Do we know what happened to her?

[@katrinamenzies9398]

@@MyHeroMacademialook up on benzodiazepines information coalition

[@katrinamenzies9398]

@@MyHeroMacademiabenzodiazepines information coalition

[@shermac246]

@@djammer she took her life

[@MrCyberShow]

I just read her obituary and it sounds like she may have taken her life. So sad. 😢

[@Hffefhjjhff]

i tried for 2 years switching from a dry taper to a liquid taper....it didnt work for me...i experienced severe burning hot sweats and would not sleep for 21 days straight ....i ended up having to go back to a solid tablet...next year i will try a dry cut taper..shaving the 2.5mg zyprexa tablet....

[@KatieJoMikell]

Just thought I’d share this with you so about five years ago I had an accident and I got hurt pretty bad they gave me pain medication and I had been taking Valium nightly very small amounts like 1 mg I didn’t feel like I needed the Valium when I was taking the pain medication because I was getting extra tired. So as it turns out I went completely off the valium and I haven’t touched one since. But you have to come off the pain medicine too but it’s a whole different ball game coming off of pain meds I think is way easier. But of course talk to your doctor!

[@SAMEntalhealth]

Believe it or not opioids can actually help the cessation of benzodiazepines. They calm you but also give you a dopamine boost. Buprenorphine, a safer partial opioid agonist, doesn't get you zooted but it's like clonazepam for opioids, long acting and keeps you calm ​@KatieJoMikell

[@terencehawkes3933]

Are you absolutely sure that going from a dry taper to a water taper was the reason for the nasty withdrawal symptoms you experienced?

[@Hffefhjjhff]

@@terencehawkes3933 I been dry tapering for nearly a year now down from 2.5mg to 1.25mg at present...I am still incapable of any sleep whatsoever...all I can do is rest...my burning hot sweats..are not as bad on the dry taper, allergies not as bad, joint pain and stomach issues not as bad, need to urinate all the time not as bad, escma not as bad...so yeah...I feel the water taper for me didn't work...but everyone is different..

[@allencollins6031]

No words. Just no words. 😔

[@KatieJoMikell]

But those are words 😂😊

[@allencollins6031]

​@KatieJoMikell Well yes Katie, they are words lol.

[@TE-7302-]

Why can’t W-D work up a survey and share with forums to get a sense of best tapering methods?

[@THXx1138]

*When disposing the waste do not flush down the sink or toilet. Water treatment plants are not equipped to remove pharmaceuticals. Pharmacies have waste dispensers for this.

[@JacquiQ]

yeah I have thought abt this - all these water taperers pouring their Benzo down the sink - we are poisoning ourselves and we wonder why we get sick and get cancer. I also wonder where the pharmacies dispose of drugs ? there is no safe way to get rid of this poison.

[@Victoria-uq8mf]

​@JacquiQ ive seen someone use activated charcoal to dispose of unused ketamine. Maybe it's something like that.

[@buwrews5469]

Rest in Peace, Christy.

[@1summerflower]

Needs investigated

[@listenlearn3644]

I heard she took her own life and it was related to her benzo w/d protracted SX's. May she RIP.🙏🙏

[@katrinamenzies9398]

@@listenlearn3644I don’t know if I’m paranoid but how do we know she is really gone? Does big pharma want us all to suicide as well??

[@buwrews5469]

@@listenlearn3644 She had one of the worst Moderna vaccine hot lots with toxicity of 2,000 to 5,000. above other lots.

[@buwrews5469]

@@listenlearn3644 She was injured by one of the Moderna hot lots. Alot of people who got jabbed for covid ended up with neurological injuries they chalked up to psych meds and killed themselves.

[@ZippoMan18]

Where can we get more info on micro tapering? I am having major issues with my diazepam taper.

[@KatieJoMikell]

If you have a family owned local pharmacy most of those pharmacies are the ones that typically can do compounding.

[@ZippoMan18]

@@KatieJoMikell I am in Canada so I am not sure if they can here.

[@KatieJoMikell]

@@ZippoMan18 you can ask any pharmacist they should know if compounding is allowed and then find a pharmacist that is trained in compounding. Hope that helps!

[@doeboy1103]

There's also KZbin videos on microtapering.

[@anjonsarker2374]

Fantastic

[@nwicconsultants6640]

On the final weeks or months of tapering when the amt. is extremely small....how is this to be handled from scale to pill box? If you were as mentioned doing a weeks worth of dosage how is each dosage contained before usage? Are there generic empty capsules available to pour this small amount into to be taken when needed? This aspect was not discussed in video and would appreciate feedback if someone knows the answer. Thank you so much in advance!

[@MajICReiki]

Valid question. I believe some med supply stores do sell empty gel caps. Try calling locally. For me, I shaved off smaller and smaller pieces and kept the different sizes in a weekly pill box. And it was a lot more guessing and feeling it out. But I had to, to survive and recover my mind and body. But this was a decade before any psychiatrist would have publicly formed any concierge medical practice like Dr Josef Witt-doerring has.

[@melanie98d]

RIP Dr Huff 😥

[@TheDavveponken]

What is the theory of tapering? When do you not need to taper? I started with 18mg of ritalin for seven days and then 38mg on the eight day after which I stopped cold turkey. Did I make the right call or should I have gone down to 18mg, then 9mg, 4,5mg?

[@ajax700]

Search for the Ashton manual for tapering benzodiazepines. And Rxisk "guide stopping antidepressants" for tapering "antidepressants" drugs. Nobody really knows. You will have to taper based on how you feel. Best wishes.

[@katrinamenzies9398]

❤Christy Huff

[@NINEU-NAUK]

And how to taper extended release pills like concerta or Bupropion ,wellbutrin ? Bcoz the doses especialy in Bupropion are masive 😢

[@carolinecroft7029]

So informative, thank you. Please can you tell me, would you divide the pill weight by the number of milligrammes or the other way round. For example 160( wt) ÷ 2mgs or 2 mgs ÷ 160 to get the dose of the tablet ?

[@taperclinic]

you decide what you want your cut to be. e.g., I want a 2% cut of a 1mg klonopin. then you weight the 1mg tablet, next you would mulitply the weight of the tablet by 98%. Then you would know when to stop shaving the tablet. e.g., the tablet weighs 10mg so 10mg x 98% = 9.8mg - ill shave the 10mg tab until the scale shows 9.8 mg. If you ingested the tablet it would be a 0.98mg of klonopin

[@MajICReiki]

​@@taperclinic😂 that is approximately how I guessed at tapering in 2008. I am so grateful to be alive and able to type this even semi coherently, now! 😅 Something I did then was one small sliver of a pill every other day, then every third day, until I was down to one every 5th day, in the last 5 weeks of my tapering. I was very diligent at it, and fortunately didn't have extreme, or complex, withdrawal symptoms in my 6 month process. Most of what I read up on came from surviving patients blogs and comment posts describing how to survive severe medication mismanagement. Is what I did, spacing days towards the end, a part of the tapering process, or was that just me winging it like most of my recovery? 😅

[@SheenaHolly]

That's a good suggestion. I wouldn't have thought about ever other day, and then every third, then fifth day. ❤ Thank You.

[@tomgreve8014]

I take zanax 4 times a day... How would this work for me?

[@annstar2793]

It look like this doctor passed away in 2017 based on an article I just read on BIC website. Self induced from horrible protracted withdrawal from Ativan. But this video looks like it was posted in 2023? Was it recorded along time ago and she’s also talking about slow tapering off Valium not being cold turkeyed off Ativan. I’m confused. Can someone please clarify? Thank you !!!

[@kevk741]

I can help. Christy Huff lost her life to her BIND symptoms in March 2024. She was five years off the benzo. She was still complaining of significant waves as little as 8 months before she died. We assume she was hit by a neurological flare with some akathisia perhaps.

[@annstar2793]

@@kevk741 thank you for info. So sad. May she rest in peace 🕊️♾️🕊️⭐️💜

[@parrosenqvist6030]

I had luck. Went from 150 to 100 to 50 mg zoloft and are now on 25 mg

[@Victoria-uq8mf]

How are you doing now?

[@ADHDGirl-jv7cw]

When I went from 50mg to 25mg with Zoloft - I had really bad withdrawal symptoms and went back to 50mg. Now I am tapering from 50mg to 40mg and ready to go down to 30mg! I had to make sure to incorporate a lot of exercise to generate the dopamine to compensate

[@MyHeroMacademia]

So, if u take benzos everyday for less than 2 wks, u won't get protracted withdrawals?

[@jamesrob8552]

No matter how long the half-life of a drug, it's always better to split up the daily dose into multiple doses. If your daily dose is 1mg, taking 0.25mg 4 times per day will carry you better than taking 1mg in the morning. Long halflife gives the illusion of it not mattering much. A prime example of halflife being an illusion how lorazepam has a longer effect on holding back seziures than valium even though Valium has a much longer half life and Valium has metabolites with 4-8 day half lives and lorazepam has no active metabolites yet it's effective longer. but there is much more going on than half life like how Lipophilic the drug is and how it diffuses into body tissues or fat.

[@fonzarellyplay370]

What if I only take benzo one day or 2 days out of the week?

[@georgiabessie]

Can you just stop? Most people that have to wean like this have taken the medication daily for months to years.

[@DeniseHurd-qm7id]

Tolerance can still develop.

[@fonzarellyplay370]

@@DeniseHurd-qm7id I actually used to take it more then that. I have been on it since like 09

[@DeniseHurd-qm7id]

@@fonzarellyplay370 still the same answer. We have seen it happen.

[@ajax700]

Search for the Ashton manual for tapering benzodiazepines. And Rxisk "guide stopping antidepressants" for tapering "antidepressants" drugs. You will have to taper based on how you feel. Best wishes.

[@kevk741]

I’m still heartbroken and trying to make sense of it. You probably got better than I ever will. That said, no one should have to do this 5 mins longer than they feel capable. I have lost 20 friends since March 2021 if I include you. Most had akathisia. Michelle was 9 years off. You mourned with us, so I’m not sure why I’m telling you? Miss you Christy. You were always a Twitter away. Hope you finally found some peace.

[@kevk741]

23 people. A lot happens in 6 months in our world. Miss you Christy.

[@niksy4]

Omg she died 😢... So sad... I just red about. What was the cause?

[@ShannonPankey]

Her obituary tells what happened

[@MyHeroMacademia]

I'm so sad watching this again, I can see that Dr. Huff is still experiencing protracted withdrawal while on panel. She looks anxious and very uncomfortable. 😢😢😢

[@kiwitraveller6451]

I cannot get the weighing scale which makes it harder to taper...only chemists have these but not for sale...how can one taper without a scale? It is hard now as my son goes into a rage withdrawal, sometimes not responsive he goes into shut down then having to phone the ambulance/police...and he ends up at ED for hours...can't keep doing this either as what is it doing to his brain? And now our govt are saying that police will not come out to any MH crisis...don't know what to say? sorry...

[@AdLineamDesignsGlasgow]

Amazon has them for sale: MICRO SCALES

[@ruthie2222]

Why doesn’t anyone talk about coming off Tramadol. Considering they act in the same way of an antidepressant, I never hear these mentioned 😢

[@ajax700]

Here in a south american country, they use tramadol for pain like it is aspirin. Oh dear. It is a very dangerous opioid. Best wishes.

[@PaulaGaudette]

It’s true I was on tramadol n I went thru hell wen I stopped it dr that perscribed it said it doesn’t cause withdrawals n the specialist dr agreed with me but I also did research. I Also still on klonopin down to 1/4 of .o5 mg. Also on buspar nuerontin lexapro ampitriptiline letrozole an anistoriatat.

[@PaulaGaudette]

Was on more meds n more mgs. I told my new phyc np 3 years ago I want to get off them I was still anxious n depressed n agrsphobia suicidal ect I can’t rem ember much right now I don’t sleep. I’m greatful for finding drs that r open to adverse reaction n withdraws ect.

[@B3l0v3d05]

Anyone doing water microtaper and can say how they handled it toward the end, smaller amounts?

[@AnnLaustsen87]

Does anyone know how she passed away?

[@Dylan-od2mp]

I’m afraid the reason they don’t announce is that she took her own life

[@AnnLaustsen87]

@@Dylan-od2mp I think this psychiatrist charges way too much money to help people taper.

[@terencehawkes3933]

If your medication is water-soluble, doing a water taper is more accurate, less fiddly, and the equipment is very inexpensive.

[@noelgillett346]

This newly minted practice of so called "experts" appropriating a knowledge space as their hegemonic territory so as to then ramble on and on with statements of th e obvious, it's the new normal of the new norm-hole. And it really sucks. I'm quitting tobacco, and have found the pattern very similar to that encountered in severe benzo addiction whereby the initital phase yields withdrawal reactions so severe as to profoundly re-inforce the dependency, this by way of creating more trauma. Finally, and only after several months pushing into withdrawal -trauma, am I finding it possibly to actually push back on the dependency so as to wean off. Even so, today's professional class culture is so stupid, hegemonic, arrogant, childish and vile that we ought best to be pondering the idea of the mass decertification of the professional class per the criminally insane cohort of textbook yammering trash that we of the salaried class have always been. Mindless, heartless, incompetent and arrogant, we destroy just aboue everything and everybody we touch, and this is by design. But we're too stupid and hooked to the smell of our own butt-cracks to so much as acknowledge our own penchent for buraucratized violence.. So it was for me in teaching, same in big law and medical science not to mention the clergy, all of us in these so called "helping" and "control " professions respectively are horrible creatures.

[@steph7960]

Most of it stems from over inflated egos..and doing what mummy and daddy want/ did..not because of empathy or compassion....that's why. Not saying EVERY one is. But it's certainly a culture.

[@listenlearn3644]

May she RIP. Someone commented that Christy took her own life related to benzo w/d.

[@ShawnRKA]

Yeah seems she did. Shoot I attempted 4 times and now im near paralyzed. All due to massive SI caused by benzo wd.

[@katrinamenzies9398]

@@ShawnRKA I’m feeling like that is my only option I’m scared I won’t get better

[@ShawnRKA]

@katrinamenzies9398 I know what that's like! Sorry Katrina. I've only found comfort in Jesus Christ. Other than that, my outlook doesn't look good at all. Keep going! What symptoms are you dealing with?

[@katrinamenzies9398]

@@ShawnRKA yes Jesus Christ is my only comfort I always grab my cross necklace which I’ve been wearing ever since I started my taper I’m down to the last 4 mg of Valium. I was on Ativan for 14 years. I m dealing with agoraphobia/ I can’t deal with any stress and I have intrusive memories and feel like I’m in an alternate reality

[@katrinamenzies9398]

@@ShawnRKA my comment got deleted

[@Itslorena_618]

I need help to taper from my xanax i am at 0.75.... so 0.25 .. three times a day... I dont understand the math or how to like do the cuts even watching the videos its hard

[@devinramos6317]

Don’t panic it’s not a one glove fits all for everybody . experiment with what works for you. Do some due diligence and research and just keep on keeping on everybody’s different and how they taper and everybody’s different on how long it takes go slow and be patient and loving with yourself. ❤🙏🏼 because we all respond differently to things. Therefore, what works for one person may not work for another❣️

[@Itslorena_618]

@@devinramos6317 thank you I've been beyond panicking my next attempt is a water taper

[@thomashelman3118]

No need to do this! I went from 3mg Xanax to none in 3 months Nov 16 I went down 50%. Then after thanksgiving I went to 1 mg. Then 12-15 went to 1/2 mg Xanax. Then I went To my Doctor and got 30 5mg Valium. Jan 1 -24 went to 2.5 mg Valium. Jan 12 went to 1.25 and stopped completely 1-16-24. The withdrawal was no worse than quitting coffee. Still don’t have normal sleep but I was on 30 mg Valium for back spasms for 30 years. Then my Wife died and I was switched to Xanax. My cable went out from 1-16. To 1-19 and the lack of cable was worse than the withdrawal from the Xanax! All these videos just stop people from taking action and control of their life. I still have 50 Xanax and 21 Valium left and even on nights of 2 hours of sleep I have not touched them. I forgot to mention I microdosed shrooms probably 1 time a week for a couple months before starting☮️

[@ShawnRKA]

Better thank God you didn't have issues.

[@kevk741]

Unfortunately, you have no idea what you are talking about. I was like you once. I even stopped and started benzodiazepines a half dozen times never realizing each time I stopped, the damage was more significant and lasted longer. Most of my worst symptoms erupted tardive months after stopping. Your comment about him stopping people from taking action is so out of line. He’s preventing benzodiazepine injury and you should know your place. Understand benzodiazepine injury before you come at someone like this.

[@thomashelman3118]

@@kevk741 your a fucking nut case ! I had to basically force my Doctor to let me wean myself off them. It took over a year. I went carnivore and got of all 8 medications . Coming from a Family of Physicians I only see them now for acute injuries and would never be treated by our health system . After what I saw them do in the last 5-10 years to my 90 year old Parents and 68 year old Wife that died of Ovarian Cancer. I wad treated for 35 years for a degenerative disc disease and multiple surgeries and disability and it turned out it was 100% the SAD food recommended by our wonderful medical system almost killed me!

[@kathya1956]

I think she committed suicide. So horrific

[@whisperingblues9887]

For people who claim to know what they are doing Christ that's sorely lacking on watching this it's dreadful.

[@Fireball1974]

Don’t believe any word this guy is saying . He is just lies

[@Auntie909]

Says who? A stranger on the internet?

[@marthaworc7873]

What exactly is this guy lying about?

[@easyridin75]

He is the only guy that I would believe. Most of them are just ignorant or don’t care.

[@kevk741]

Every word he says is true. He’s even sugar coating some of it to avoid scaring people. Those are my hurt friends he’s having on. How dare you make such a statement? Benzodiazepine Injury and benzodiazepine tapering injuries are real and crippling people and leaving them tortured alive in chronic akathisia & other BIND injuries. Find the Benzodiazepine Information Coalition and brush up on your lack of knowledge. Find Nicole Lamberson PA and hear about her benzodiazepine injury and her work for BIC and the award winning documentary “Medicating Normal”. Find Geraldine Burns and hear about her benzodiazepine injury and her work with the Massachusetts Benzodiazepine Bill and her work on the documentary “As Prescribed”.