How To Edit Drums With Beat Detective - Warren Huart: Produce Like A Pro

[@LaminarSound]

Probably the best explanation on editing drums ive ever seen. Thanks for taking the Greek out of it Warren.

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi +Sean Hebert Aw shucks! Thanks very much for your kind words I really appreciate it! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren

[@SteveStockmalMusic]

Hey, I speak Greek !!! Yes it’s true I am American and I speak 4 languages... whaaaat? Got a gig in Greece and learnt 25 words a day, did that for about 5 months, then lived there for 7 years. So in this case, this was “all Greek to me”. I understood it perfectly. Thanks Marv (get it?,...Marvelous) Steve

[@ניבאופיר]

Its perfect explanation!!!

[@dmledo]

Years later and still is an awesome tutorial! Thank u

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@diegoferrera787]

Been using beat detective the way my mentor taught me for years until I started to hear how over-quantized my drums have been lately. Came to youtube for some tips and I'm so glad I found this video. Instantly helped my drums sound more natural. Thank you Warren!

[@MoatsBrothers]

That was the best Beat Detective lesson ever. Thanks so much.

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi MoatsBrothers thanks very much for the kind words! Very glad I can be of help! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren

[@heartstringssound-Doug]

I find myself re-educating myself with Beat Detective and found your tutorial here. You seem to have always had a gift for communicating extremely well even when getting into the details. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience to help us sir. You Rock!

[@Producelikeapro]

Wow! Thanks ever so much

[@alexlangford9928]

my tutor showed me how to use this and I had no idea what he was talking about until I just watched this!...Thank the lord for my fellow brit.. good work warren, please keep em coming. Much love from the Garden of England.

[@Producelikeapro]

Hello Alex in Kent! That's wonderful to hear my friend! Glad to be able to help!!

[@avva_music]

Warren you are not only a gifted producer and engineer but teacher as well, this is the best tutorial I've seen in editing drums! Being a drummer myself you have no idea how much I appreciate these videos! Cheers!

[@Producelikeapro]

Please check out the video on how I use Beat Detective in this video. Have marvelous day!

[@andresgil9216]

I used to edit drums using elastic audio. I had completely forgotten the Beat detective and it works a thousand times better . Thanks for the excellent tutorial!

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi +Andrés Gil Great stuff! So glad to be able too help! Yes Elastic leaves too many artifacts for me! Have a marvelous time recording! Many thanks Warren

[@warrenhuart]

Please check out my How To Edit Drums with Beat Detective video on www.producelikeapro.com If you sign up for the email list you will get a link to the Drum files to download so you too can edit them! Have a marvelous day!

[@commontimeproductions]

Until today I didn't know how to go about doing this even though on feedback Friday we were called out on timing. We recently recorded a gig and this tutorial is a god send! You rock Warren, this is so easy to understand and I will be easily able to time align the drums for the 6 songs no problem.

[@SteveSZ27]

Finally! a work flow that makes sense to me. Separating for only kick snare and toms is brilliant. Thank you!

[@bretphelan6848]

Warren you are a gentleman and a scholar!

[@sidneyjosephmusic]

This was AWESOME and so clearly explained. Thank you!!

[@Producelikeapro]

Wow!! Thanks ever so much

[@sidneyjosephmusic]

@@Producelikeapro Finally got it and understood a great workflow 👌🏼 Thank YOU!

[@SamuelBosTube]

Thanks a lot Warren! You`re the most friendliest person on youtube! :-) Thank you for taking the time to make this kind of videos!!!

[@sporkrazm]

Warren, thank you for sharing this. In the past I have used Elastic Time on drums with mixed results. Your explanation of Beat Detective has been enlightening - far better than any I have seen in the past - and I can't wait to try it. Thanks, so very much.

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks for watching Rick Lucier! I really appreciate your comments! Many thanks Warren

[@arthur.monticelli]

What can I say? Warren you are an angel. Thank you very much for your tutorials.

[@GusParkermusic]

Great video! Very detailed. Thank you!

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi +Gus P Music Thanks very much for your kind words I really appreciate it! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren

[@AdamShepard]

watching you do this with a trackpad is giving me anxiety but you're nailing it

[@octopusonfire100]

Just wanted to tell you that such a seemingly unimportant thing as using the suspend/enable groups shortcut has drastically improved my workflow. Thanks!!

[@octopusonfire100]

+Do not Question Authority Also, you could benefit from the Shift + ; shortcut to extend selection when re-enabling groups (After doing the analysis on the Kick+Snare). It feels more natural to do Cmd+Shift+G and then Shift + ; and it saves you another click.

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi +Do not Question Authority I love key short cuts! Makes my life so much easier!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

[@SteveStockmalMusic]

Ditto, Especially on my new laptop.

[@MrJimmy01001]

Thanks for this excelent and accurate explanation Warren! I love the confidence and effectiveness of all your tutorial videos. You are a walking library sir 🙌

[@winstonmckenzie3481]

This is an excellent refresher course of Beat detective, easy to understand and follow. Thank you very much

[@rodrigorr22]

Thank you so much, the suspended groups and the trigger pad made all the difference!

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi +Rodrigo Pex Fantastic! Glad to be able to help! Thanks very much I really appreciate it! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren

[@AlbertoDati]

Brilliant tut Warren, useful and straight to the point! You definitely made my day.

[@ThomasDiognardi]

YESS been using this for years but never knew you could just use fundamental tracks like kick and snare as trigger points, and then add the cymbals in right before the Separation phase. THANK

[@66KhzProductions]

If I could give you thousands of thumbs up i would you are the master!! Thank you so much! I really like the part about retaining the swing of the percussive elements such as the hi-hats! Just awesome! :D

[@Producelikeapro]

Wow!! Thanks ever so much

[@66KhzProductions]

@@Producelikeapro No problem i am a student at uni right now and doing a pro tools module, so thanks to you i fully understand this concept, seriously bruv, you rock! I cant believe you give for free!

[@Producelikeapro]

Please check out my how to use Beat Detective video, let me know any tips you may have as well! Have a marvelous day! Many thanks Warren

[@CameronMeadows]

Thank you! Beat Detective is finally making sense.

[@paperofdisaster]

the best tutorial for beat detective ! thank you so much warren :D

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi +DANIEL POD Thanks very much for your great comment I really appreciate it! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren

[@paperofdisaster]

+Produce Like A Pro same goes to you Warren .. cheers from malaysia !

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi +DANIEL POD Thanks very much for your kind words I really appreciate it! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren

[@RonjoV]

Hey Warren thank you for this, drum editing has always been such a time consuming mystery before this video!

[@dreambeliever3652]

Man buddy...i really appreciate your content!

[@GB00691]

So helpful. Thanks Warren! Definitely going to seek your advice in the future.

[@Producelikeapro]

HI +Gareth Bothma Of course! Glad to be able to help! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

[@vminator]

Thank you for making this video! Really cleared things up for me.

[@jeffreyboga196]

Thank you, clearly explained

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@christophermeraz-mata]

I FINALLY GET IT! Thank you Warren!

[@TheRecyclable]

Best tutorial ! you explained the concept ! appreciate it !

[@dasdrums]

thank you so much for this. Been needing to learn how it works

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi +dasdrums Wonderful! I'm so glad to be able to help! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren

[@metrakos]

Very helpful video…. thanks Warren

[@JuanCarlosMelian]

Thank you so much! Best regards from DK

[@adamcoe]

Thanks for the straightforward runthrough, this made BD make sense. Cheers!

[@ddrummer1821]

I know you've worked with the best of the best studio drummers in the world. Is there any of them that need no editing whatsoever?

[@stevewilliamsonguitar]

Thank you Warren!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks Steve! My pleasure!

[@HarmonicMolecues]

warren you da man!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks ever so much

[@malumahloo1341]

Awesome channel! Subscribed! Keep up the great work!

[@wrightguyz]

thanks for the tutorial - doing marvelous work over there !

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi +BrandonX76 Thanks YOU!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

[@TheSoundConnoisseur]

You are a GENIUS

[@JaacobRS]

Fantastic tutorial, thanks!

[@starfishrecordingvallejoca9763]

thank you, you have helped me a lot with this tutorial

[@luizronconi]

AWESOME!!! Thank you again Warren!!!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks Luiz Ronconi! I really appreciate it! Have a marvelous time recording! Many thanks Warren

[@charliewilson9923]

Great video, helped me a lot

[@teamuprgc]

Yup! You Definitely ROCK!!!

[@AadiArora]

Very well Put on how to best use Beat Detective! I had a q: How do you approach using beat Detective, when you need to quantise an entire session to the grid . Say Drums, Guitars, vocals , bass- all recorded live.

[@Niklasjblixt]

Awesome! I've always used Elastic Time to do that but I find that it creates a lot of artifacts sometimes. But after watching how you work with beat detective I think I'll incorporate this workflow into my edit work. Thanks!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks NiklasJBlixt! I've used elastic time as well, but I find the phase alignment gets messed up using it. Have a marvelous time recording! Many thanks Warren

[@jorgenlandhaug663]

Great tutorial Warren;)

[@jim2010mopar]

Great video!

[@ReubenGetzGilbert]

Thank you so much!

[@ndres1]

thanks you ! Amazing Tutorial ! Worked awesomely for me :P

[@timunkel9136]

very helpful, thanks!

[@slowburnav4037]

Love you buddy!

[@Producelikeapro]

Thanks very much

[@AndrewVonGregor]

Excellent tutorial! Thank YOU, ever so much, Warren! (-:

[@4ashtek]

Thank you!

[@ideospheremusic8002]

I know this an older video but I want to know if you have to map the tempo first with songs not recorded to click before using this? If the tempo sways all over the place do you leave it or map what it should be first and then apply Beat Detective? You are the best Warren, I’ve learned so much from you!

[@PabloLaFrossia]

Thank you so much for these videos. Greatly appreciated! \m/

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi Pablo, thanks very much! So glad you enjoy the videos!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

[@davidlorentz5480]

Fab vid m8!

[@danielenicosia6389]

You are great! Very straightforward explanation. Very good!. Question: often we deal with relative fast drums fills, which might not be very precisely "on grid". Now, how efficient the beat detective is to correct such cases? Shall we rather treat such cases (I mean every single transient of a complex drum fill) manually? Thanks a lot!

[@lancemccomb8906]

Always a great source of knowledge... Would you recommend doing this before tracking other instruments or if you're in a situation where everything is tracked does this effect the other instruments timing relation?

[@MrAcapela]

thanks a lot for your knowlegde and for sharing it

[@nagynagy3819]

You are great Keep on plz

[@patrickskinner704]

Warren. Quick question. What value do you suggest for swing if you want to let the drums be just a tad loser than exact grid?

[@bryanciliberto]

Hey Warren! Thanks for the video. I found it clear and informative. One question; what exactly does the “fades” step do? I can’t really hear a difference between before and after you did that last step.

[@cameronjohnson6305]

Hi there. Great video. Thank you very much for your content. I was wondering if using beat detective is strictly only for audio that has been recorded to a click track? I imagine the result are far better if the original performance was recorded to a click. Thanks, Cam.

[@kalebtreacy9493]

Hey Warren, just discovered this from the subscriber e-mail. You have legit saved me hours of editing, I've been doing it manually! I noticed on the first 6 bars you used the floor tom track to search for transients as well, but in the next 12 it was just the kick and snare. Was the first one a mistake and you'd get main body right i.e kick/snare and fix up the toms manually if need be?

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi +Kaleb Treacy Thanks very much for your great comment I really appreciate it! If there isn't any tom performances then I don't include them in the search for transients. I hope that helps! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren

[@Iliour_Griften]

Thanks a lot!!!

[@brandonbikoff792]

Can you do a. Video on superior drummer 3 . Routing and mixing

[@jamesmaginnes2993]

Hi, I used this workflow and it worked great however small green triangles have appeared. They seem to align with certain transients and is on each of the track in same possition, so there would be one on the kick track and then one the snare ect in the same point in the track. The drums sound in time now though. Anyways thank you so much great video

[@SteveStockmalMusic]

Hi Marv, Reading the comments below it suddenly occurred to me that I could use this to edit vocal stacks (like Vocallign). Does this make sense?

[@JohnHarris-jg3gu]

Hey Warren ... in Conform .. How can spaces appear between the transients... ? Is it deleting unnecessary parts of the drum tail ? .. or is it shrinking the length of the hit to make room to move it ??? thx

[@davidlorentz5480]

Excellent Warren, great job, maybe cos we speak the same language (cough’ proper English, which is hilarious as I’m a scouser, inside joke fellas ha ha!) but I do find your vids clear concise and uncluttered, now if only I could find where I put my pencil......

[@sonmustang]

Great tutorial Expert! I have another way to edit drums by using Event Operations, can I share with you?

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi +Thái Sơn Nguyễn Great stuff! Please do! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren

[@giosound404]

Hello there, let's say we do have our room mics in our playlist, shouldn't we time em to the grid as well?

[@stevegeorge7773]

Just wondering if beat detective procedures have changed since you posted this video 5 years ago?

[@Producelikeapro]

Negatory! Stil the same technique

[@funkyadhesive]

Helpful stuff. I'm not a protools user, do you know of any free VST equivalents to Beat Detective?

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi +funkyadhesive that's a great question! I know Recycle does basic drum editing of loops etc, but I don;t know how tracks it can handle? Anyone else have any ideas on great VST drum editing software? Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren

[@jonduke4969]

hey warren, What is the short cut to zoom on a section of the track?

[@augustourbinibateria]

Hi! Exelent video. Thanks a lot. I do have a question. Im having problems editing djent metal drumtracks which have a lot of BD and SD while constant cymbals are beeing played. I get a lot of noise and kind of a "sweeping sound" in the Overheads channel. Any suggestion? thank you!

[@rchoplin1]

At 9:31 in the video you deal with a transient that is clipped off due to previous editing. Why don't you just use the trim tool and then handle that section with Beat Detective instead of Snap to Grid?

[@gabrieleponticiello6842]

Thanks Warren!!! Little tricks here and there that most likely will make me proficient on BD. Haven't tried them all yet... One question for you and everybody else: I am on PT 12.7 and I noticed that if I don't cut down files/tracks into sections (as you do @ 10'03") , remaining whole files slightly slip on the timeline and consequently on the grid. Has this ever occurred to anyone? Am I doing something wrong? Thanks again, marvellously!

[@jamesnyttemusic]

Hi Warren! Would you recommend doing this step before or after phase-locking all the tracks (with time alignment)?

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi +jamesnyttemusic Great question! Whichever way you work just make sure you playlist the tracks so there is always an unaltered track to return to. Personally if I were aligning the tracks in phase I might do that first then edit and the chop points would be more accurate. Happy New Year! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren

[@jvilmusic]

I know I’m 8 years late. But I’m mixing a song for a client and on certain parts of the drums when I use beat detective it like makes it sound worse. I can’t seem to figure out why it changes it so drastically.

[@SamnangsChannel]

Hi Warren, great tutorial. I tried using this just now, but I'm having some trouble as my drummer is playing various ghost notes and odd time signatures. How would I edit the parts so that they sound natural?

[@HarveyThibault]

Warren. I've watched your videos and want to fully understand this. If you receive drum tracks from a band and there are phase issues... would you use beat detective to quantize the drum part, THEN use the time adjuster to put them in phase? Or would you want to time adjust THEN quantize? Does it matter which way you go about doing these? Thank you. Keep up the great work.

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi +Harvey Thibault Great question! Duplicate the playlist then edit them, then adjust the edited tracks last! Thanks very much I really appreciate it! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren

[@HarveyThibault]

Excellent. So once you've consolidated, time adjust? Thanks so much.

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi +Harvey Thibault Yes Sir! Playlist so you have an edited one! Thanks very much I really appreciate it! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren

[@kangband]

Hi Warren, thank you for the video as usual. I have a question now. You set the trigger pad at 15ms. That means your drums transients sits behind the the cut. And if you quantize them, it will be quantized by the cut line. and you'll have all your drums quantized 15ms behind. Am I right? or do i got it wrong?

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi +kangband Thanks for the great question! No the trigger point is the transient and that is what gets snapped to the grid, the cut is in front of that! I hope that helps? Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren

[@kangband]

Oh now I see it. Thanks Warren for the kind comment.

[@andrewolivetreemixing]

Great video! i use this technique a lot. But i've recently gotten a ton of work where the client is REALLY particular about getting edits as slammed on the grid as possible. You technique for editing drums is great except for the fact that all the songs i've been getting, the drums hit at different times on different mics. even when nudging over the room mics to match the close mics, they still come off of each other down the road here and there. so slicing the entire drum group isn't an option, and i've been going in track by track....ugh. i don't imagine there's an easier way, but if there is, i'd love to know!

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi +Andrew Olive Tree Mixing Great question! You should still edit in group ode as I do then consolidate and if you want t adjust phase do it afterwards. The relationship between the mics stays constant soother's no need to go out of group. Does that makes sense? Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

[@andrewolivetreemixing]

Yeah I figured as much. The guys I'm doing some editing for sent me a screenshot saying they wanted EVERYTHING on the grid, which I thought was strange. But after trying it, it sounded phasey and unnatural so I just went back to the way I've been doing it, which is the same way you explain in your excellent video. Thanks for the response

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi +Andrew Olive Tree Mixing Ok phew! I'm glad that worked out!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren

[@R.Outler]

I NEED TO STUDY YOU!!!

[@simoneapostoli3954]

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[@gabrieleponticiello6842]

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[@RhysHoneMusic]

IF you havn't used a click track is this possible?

[@outshyneofficial6771]

Should you time align the drum tracks before going forward with beat detective? Or is beat detective more less gonna take care of that for you? Sorry if it seems like a dumb question. Newbie.

[@ChrisJohnsonDrums]

I would think better to do it first. Because if you did it after, the fades would happen at different times on each track.. Haven't tested it though

[@Mpalmquist]

How are you going to single zoom mode tool so fast? Is there a key command?

[@Producelikeapro]

Hi Michael Palmquist thanks for the great question! I'm using the R and T letters with the AZ button enabled. Have a marvelous time recording! Many thanks Warren

[@drippingcolorsound8754]

So when you don't edit hi hats or other particular tracks with the drums as a whole, wouldn't it cause phasing issues? Specific parts are gridded and other aren't?

[@Producelikeapro]

Everything is edited as a group, so the relationship between the mics stay consistent

[@mattdyer918]

is suspending the group and selecting the specific tracks kick, snare ect. more efficient then using collective mode?

[@ellyk765]

I record my music using a microphone plugged into a VHS tape player onto a blank tape. I output the music from the VHS player's RCA output into my computer's mic input on it's sound card using an RCA to 1/8" adapter. I open up "sound recorder" in my Windows 95 PC. Here's it's specs: 133 MHz Pentium (1) processor 8 megabytes of RAM 256 kilobyte video RAM 3 gigabyte hard drive the sound quality is ~*SuPeRb*~ it sounds better than a high end pro tools interface

[@rolaca11]

do you even 2016 bro? :D

[@ellyk765]

rolaca11 Hell yeah man, I can overdub my tracks also. What I do is I record one instrument at a time in "sound recorder" and then I open up a new window of "sound recorder" for each instrument and then I press play on all of the windows as fast as I can so that way they are in synch. Then I use another program to capture my soundcards audio. Voila! Multi track recording rig

[@rolaca11]

I bet you can do manual compression as well. I'm telling you, no computer can beat a real man handling the gain knob

[@ellyk765]

Yeah, I plug a mic into my guitar amp that has a pedal board with compression effects hooked up to it using an XLR to 1/4" adapter into the input and then I mic the amp with the microphone that's fed into the VHS recorder. Sometimes it doesn't work properly, so I'll use a tape recorder instead. I can do multitracking also, I get a second tape recorder and playback the track after I record it and pick up the audio into the other tape recorder while I play the new track on my guitar, well it's sort of a guitar. It's a ukele fitted with metal strings tuned EADG, I use a sound hole pickup fed into an amp with distortion for metal tracks

[@SteveStockmalMusic]

You’re awesome !!! I thought I was a mad scientist, but CLEARLY I have met my match !!! Bravooooooo