HOW TO ENJOY VR ON A BUDGET! ESSENTIAL TIPS & ADVICE | MSFS VR SETTINGS

[@AeroSmithyProductions]

Fantastic video. Proves you can run vr and msfs without having to sell an arm, leg and possibly a kidney for a 4090. Big thumbs up from me.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Cheers Paul. That was exactly the purpose of this video 😊

[@Horendus123]

I still don’t see how vr works at 30 FPS. In my experience 45 has all sorts of weird things going on and 90 looks like real life motion.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@Horendus123 Because for the type of flying in this video, it's rather slow paced, therefore 35-45fps feels absolutely fine. If I were to play a fast paced shooter, or fly a fighter jet low down (like I say in this video), it would be a different story.

[@DCDesignsMSFS]

I've been using an Oculus Rift CV1 on a GTX1080 i7 with 16GB RAM for several years without any problems whatsoever. It's all about keeping the sim-settings sensible. I'm now running the same system with a Reverb G2 again without issues on the same settings. Updating to a 4090 system next week, but for the past few years, I've enjoyed VR so you're 100% correct.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Exactly mate. I swear most people who run into problems simply just have their settings far too high. Looking forward to hearing your reports on the 4090 though 😁

[@AudibleSpace]

What settings did you run on the cv1, Did you use OTT or ODT?

[@steveclark9934]

I5-8400 and 1080ti purchased new when released on quest 2 and no complaints. But will probably upgrade next cpu/gpu cycle. Got a ch flight yoke for $10 at Value Village and a flight stick for$7 a used playseat for $100 on CL and two 50w Tactile transducers for $35 and a $75 t150 wheel for racing and I can use the pedals also mapped for Rudders in FS a fantastic experience you must try it get used stuff a little bit at a time.

[@jango71]

Appreciated, you seemed to go the way of all KZbinrs that want us to buy all the products you sell.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I don't sell anything. I merely show what interest me 🤔

[@belgeode]

That 310r never gets old. Love it!!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Everytime I fly her, it feels like a special occasion.

[@NathanAnnandale]

I have a great time with my 2060super and my quest2. Took a long time to tweak it properly and sift through the mountains of outdated info to get it running beautifully, but it taught me a bunch which has helped implement into other vr games such as f1 22 which is also super demanding. I started with an i3 12100 and while it worked, it was the limiting factor. Upgraded to an i5 13600k and that has really helped. Now my gpu is my limiting factor but it runs great and I'm happy!

[@vengermanu9375]

When you showed your settings, it looked very similar to mine! Still running an Intel i5 (9th gen) with Nvidia 2060 graphics card and Quest 2 (in total about £1000 I paid at the time) and runs smooth enough for me to still enjoy the sim and get that VR experience. Been the same set up since 2020. Right enough sim itself cost me £70, then yoke £130, pedals £85, planes from marketplace £100's etc 😂

[@musefan12345]

I also have a 2060 GPU but I have an i7 10700 CPU and I struggle to run VR. I'm also using a Quest 2. Every so often my performance will drop, almost to a halt, and in the OpenXR dialogue it shows that I'm GPU bound when this happens. I know I'm asking a lot, but would you have any idea why this is happening? It's like it's overheating and throttling back. My graphic settings are all quite low too. I have no issues running it in flat mode, on a mixture of high and ultra settings.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

That's awesome! Keep on flying 👌

[@vengermanu9375]

@@musefan12345 Not really sure. Maybe Steve would have an idea. I'd say with mine about 90% of the time it is fine i.e. get about 25 - 30 fps in VR although very occasionally it will drop to around 3 - 5 fps during a flight i.e. sudden noticeable lag and becomes almost unusable. This doesn't happen very often and I notice when it does it seems to happen more often with certain planes e.g. I have a Sting S4 from marketplace where this happens more often than not. As far as thermal throttling, my GPU seems to do this within about 1 - 2 minutes of playing MSFS regardless. It only has a single fan and a large heatsink and thermal throttles at 83c very quickly after booting up MSFS. I noticed this early on in my PC's life and thought I won't be getting much life out of my GPU at this rate but seems to be the default for this card and still going 3 years later!

[@Incommensurabilities]

@@musefan12345 When you say performance grinds to a halt, do you mean like sub 10fps? And then after a while it returns to a playable value by itself? I have a quest 2 and I have this issue, it's very annoying. After a lot of experimenting I think it's to do with VRAM becoming too full, so I try to reduce settings that use lots of VRAM.

[@musefan12345]

@@vengermanu9375 Thanks for the info mate.

[@scottishwings9648]

Still on my 2080ti and RiftS…. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Does the job for me still.

[@bendersimvrtrucking8456]

gtx1080 handles the vr well enough with valve index. ill probably upgrade my cpu before gpu. great mileage for an 7 years old gpu.

[@kwaka5704]

I have a i9 12900k and 3090Ti, but think the biggest factor is internet bandwidth!! I have to use 4G home broadband and when the connection is sub 20mbs i can see a massive drop compared to 25mbs plus. Previously had a 1080Ti and i7700k and dont see much difference offline. So i believe the major factor is bandwidth and not hardware. Dont have VR anymore but would like to get back in to it.

[@adrianstealth340]

great vid best for longg time

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks Adrian 👍

[@pmcomputing2459]

interesting you mentioned a 1070ti as lowest baseline. I got frustrated with a lot of games because I had to turn the resolution down to play them and lots of pixellation annoys me. I upgraded from a Ryzen7 5800x with a GTX 1070ti to a 13700k with an rtx 4080, there is a massive difference in vr games

[@ujd2930]

Your graphics are amazing!

[@theoldgitwatgames4640]

I've just built a VR system for a friend specifically to keep the budget down, and they're happily flying in MSFS with an i5 10600k, 32gig and a 3060ti (all second hand) and a samsung odyssey plus, a logitech x52 hotas and Nextlevel racing FGTlite, it all came in under £700. So an immersive experience doesn't have to cost the earth. You just need to wheel and deal a bit and have realistic expectations whilst you save for a newer bit of kit.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Very well played sir 👌

[@sharkfisherman1884]

can u post your settings ? i have same card

[@4secsharkmr352]

Gooooood one buddy. Thx and take care

[@RTRT-de8vz]

Can you tell us what your resolution is set at please

[@marco_loewert]

do you use a yoke? If yes, which one, if not, why?

[@poolhallshark]

I appreciate you for doing this, even though you're gonna quit VR-simming and become a full time dog groomer. I know there are still MANY users out there with medium and low specs that still would love to have a go. But you'd be hard pressed to find a single video out there nowadays that have lower specs then let's say a 3090 and a 10700. I'm on a 3090 and an i7 13700k and I'm happy as a cucumber with that, but I was also very happy with my previous setup with a 3070 and a 10700k, averaging 35-40 fps. Great video, Steve. Happy Easter, Buddy ! Love from Norway ♥♥♥♥♥

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

That did make me chuckle mate 😂😂 I think generally speaking flight simmers are happy to spend a bit more since we get so much use out of our high end systems. But I must say once I dialed in my settings, my old system still packs quite a punch. Happy Easter my friend, much love from old Blighty 😊

[@poolhallshark]

@@VRFlightSimGuy 😁🥰🥰

[@citizenblue]

I've seen the Reverb G2 version 2 go for a low as $320 US on the used market. Best price to performance on any headset IMO

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Amaaaaaaazing deal that!

[@JDVVV378]

Great video have Shadow update with a RTX A4500 which is a 3070 TI good tips. Can play on relative high settings.

[@nigelmorris4769]

My budget vr is a Ryzen 5 3600 4ghz, gtx 1070, Sony psvr with velocity 1 flight stick and Logitech throttle, low Rez but you get the sense your are flying.

[@bondbond3428]

presuming you are using motion smoothing on the Aero?

[@sarathab]

Hi Thanks.. Your comments are encouraging. I just bought a Reverb G2, and am trying various settings to get an acceptable experience using my Ryzen 5 CPU and the RTX 2060 super. At very low settings just about acceptable. I am however thinking I need to upgrade my GPU to a 30 series at least.. but that is still a bit expensive. Everybody says go for a 4090, but I don't have deep enough pockets😢. Do you think I might be get a reasonable experience with the 2069 super.. at least for the time being?

[@Incommensurabilities]

Have you tried enabling DLSS in the MSFS options? It gives almost the same quality image but can really help with performance

[@sarathab]

@@Incommensurabilities Yes I am running with DLSS, it has given an improvement to just acceptable levels. All other graphics settings are medium. And low traffic.

[@bakakafka4428]

For non-native PCVR "you need a very fast computer". What would be your minimum spec for running the Pico? Kinda have to weigh the cost of a more expensive PCVR headset vs the more expensive GPU.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

4070ti min, since if has dual encoders.

[@bakakafka4428]

@@VRFlightSimGuy Pity it only has 12GB VRAM for that price. Why btw do you need dual encoders? Can they distribute the load between them, I thought it only meant you could do two streams at the same time. Also, do the AMD equivalents have dual encoders? I should go and watch more reviews I guess 😅

[@tazzharm]

hey nice vid. question for ya...at the 0.54ish mark you looked to your right and co pilot was visible in vr correct? if so how did you get this and what if any app did you use... thanks Glenn.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thankyou, this is a feature of this aircraft in the EFB.

[@tazzharm]

@@VRFlightSimGuy ok thanks. I'm trying to keep my eyes on GA planes that have the copilot visible options.

[@musefan12345]

I'm running a 2060 GPU with I have an i7 10700 CPU. I bought a 2nd hand Quest 2, which I got for a really good price off a friend. But from what you're saying the Quest was a bad choice based on my current GPU. I struggle with performance, my sim will drop to has low as 5 FPS, for a few minutes, and then will climb back up to 30 FPS. Then a few minutes later it will start doing the same thing. OpenXR is telling me that I'm GPU limited whenever this is happening. Am I missing some trick, or am I just going to have to fork out on a new GPU or even a headset? Or both lol

[@MrHercules222]

What is everyone doing about being able to read the instruments? I can turn down the settings enough to get good frame rates, but at that point the instruments are so blurry I have to lean in to see the numbers at all.

[@AnkushB1811]

I have a gtx 1660 Im using ur settings but its still bery laggy justvon the ground. 50ms of 13.9 ms just on the ground

[@keithb4048]

Curious (G2 V1 owner), does ANY headset have Variable Refresh Rate display? Dat what we need?

[@ryanw1433]

Thank you so much for addressing different budgets. From your perspective, if someone had X amount of funds, what would you prioritize? GPU, headset, motion rig? Is it better for example to go with a 3070ti upgrade (coming from a 2060 in my case) and use the unspent cash for a motion rig? Or put all the cash in a 4090 and put off the motion rig for a couple of years? Same with headset - stick with current G2 and prioritize a 4090 or a cheaper GPU and motion rig?

[@ryanw1433]

I’m used to barely squeaking by with a2060 and G2 running at half-res. And I’ve found low res 3D beats good res 2D! But it’s time for some improvements.

[@phil_nicholls]

You probably already know this - but commercial flight sims don’t have a huge amount of visual detail - what they do have is super smooth graphics; and I say from many hours in commercial sims, the immersion is very much there without all the detail. Smoothness is probably more important than fancy graphics. (That said, I do very much enjoy both)! 😉

[@Paradyski]

I want to switch into VR, I have a £2k budget for graphic card and VR. Any suggestions which card and VR I should concider ? I was thinking to get 7900xtx and Reverb. Currently I'm running AMD 5600x, nvidia 1070 8gb on B550 motherboard. Getting 30-40 fps in iniBuilds, PMDG, FBW, C414. All set on High End with volumetric clouds on Ultra

[@darrenabbott4047]

I have an RTX 3070 and get great performance with my Rift S. I am looking at upgrading my headset mainly to increase resolution. Got to say the Rift S has been great thus far just need to improve resolution...Would be interested in any recommendations for my setup. Ryzen 7 3.8ghz CPU, 32 GB RAM.... Great video BTW.

[@nzbankboyinvr4713]

3080/G2 here and after seeing your vids, I have a FOMO CPU in my head, so looking to upgrade end of this year to a 4090/4090ti depending on release date with a i9 13900/Varjo Aero 🎉 The motion rig will have to wait til next year 😂

[@rcichella]

I have a 10900k OC@5.3ghz with an RTX 3090, looking to buy soon the Varjo Aereo or Pymax Crystal (depending on your reviews and recommendations). Can you please tell if such system is enough for a high-end VR experience? Would you upgrade any of these components if you had unlimited budget? Thanks for your kind attention.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

That's a nice system, although if you ever upgrade, I'd go for a 4090, as your CPU is strong enough for MSFS. you'll see a BIG fps increase. Crystal should be on the channel soon 👍

[@bpilot1992]

Great video! I’ve just bought a quest 3 and have 1080ti. I get really bad AA issues and shimmer is really bad! Can you help me please? Thanks

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thankyou. Sadly the 1080ti is going to really struggle with the encoding.

[@bpilot1992]

@@VRFlightSimGuy thanks what do you recommend I upgrade too please?

[@paulsaunders6536]

There isn’t a magic bullet for.VR flight settings. Everyone will eventually find their ideal compromise between detail and frame rates. Tweaking settings can’t and won’t generate additional computing power, you need a very expensive graphics card and a very expensive processor and even when you get those you will have to make compromises. The hardware doesn’t as yet exist that will give us 90 FPS in the G2 in all situations. I’ve just invested in an RTX 4090, it’s brilliant, my processor is 10700k and I have a G2. I can run MSFS at high settings in VR, using TAA and I have the render at 100% in open composite. Without MR I get around 45 fps, flying over cites, dropping to mid to low 30s. For the smoothest flying experience I enable MR and fix it a30 FPS. It’s the best and sharpest VR experience I’ve had in MSFS. In 2D it’s a different story, I used the optimum settings suggested in G Force experience, that defaults to DLSS. I’m getting 100+ FPS over the cites and 130-160 over the likes of the Grand Canyon, graphics are pin sharp. An incredible up lift from the new card and DLSS 3.0. DCS has seen a similar but more modest improvement, multithreading helping here as well, I’ll stick with MR and 45 FPS, even though my GPU is running at 10-12ms for most of the time. IL2 the FPS has some pretty wild swings, from a steady 90 down to 60-65. I can fix the rate at a rock steady 45 using MR in open composite but with more headroom than. I had with my RTX 3080., but I’ll just have to put up with the occasional ghosting. With a more powerful card there is lot less tweaking and that’s a good thing. DLSS in MSFS is a real game changer for me, also generates a lot less fan activity on the new card.

[@Fullhouse0056y6]

So here is what i think. My current setup is: i5- 13600kf, 32gb ddr5, m2 ssd and evga rtx 3060 xc 12gb. Link cable is giniun oculus $80 cable. What i see is this. If i go to fs2020 settings and make all settings at maximum then i can see my video card is maxed at 100% and of course with 100% cant work correctly. Game quality in quest 2 will be amazing! 😀 but slow rendering coz of video card at 100%. To some how fix it i need to lower Rendering slider in fs2020 vr settings. Maximum you can do 200% for rendering and for me to avoid bitrate issues jerking etc... i need to lower to at least 90% on that slider and this still will have some issues very often. To remove issues it needs to start at 80. But then what is the purpose of using vr if u can't do 200%???? After u saw quality at 200% resolution and then going to much lower resolution 80-90, it is like heaven and earth difference. With 200 all so real, sharp and pretty and 80-90, even 100 honestly is JUNK. Why would you look at bad pictures on your house wall if u have super pictures to hang and watch. Jyst with fs2020 to be honest not possible to run it at 200% resolution and do not have signal issues distortion etc in quest. It is sad. If i am wrong please do tell and teach me , i love flying and in vr is like new life!!!! And i see all vr videos do not have renderingat 200 so what they see in vr is junk

[@paulmann8675]

Great video Steve Nice to see accommodating us not so well off VR pilots Steve 😃 I’m still sticking with my 3080 for now and recent upgrade to a 5800x3d with 32gb ram with gigabyte 570 motherboard but I want to change the quest 2 as you may have heard a few times on groups I want something better than the quest never thought of the rift s the g2 is fetching stupid money even second hand what about the pico 3 neo link that has display port

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Cheers Paul, that's a very decent system you have there with plenty of flight time left to give. I often forget about the Pico 3 link as I haven't tried one, but I've heard very good reports.

[@Incommensurabilities]

Has the upgrade to a 5800x3d improved performance with the quest 2? What did you have before?

[@rccanuck4473]

Can you run MSFS in VR with only 4 gig graphics card. And get a quality view?

[@lilphil26]

I run it with a 2060(6gb) and I have to turn down render scaling to 70 or so, so I would say probably not with a 4gb gpu

[@rccanuck4473]

@@lilphil26 I tried with 4gb panel not readable at all 4gb will not work

[@robskey]

Steve l got 2070 super and g2 but sim looks so bad😢😢😢

[@bakakafka4428]

BTW, don't forget about the Pico 3 Neo Link...

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Very true. I often forget because I've never tried it.

[@spatialpro]

More videos like this please (less 4090, Aero etc) 👍

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks Andy, I do my best to cater for all, hence the Pico 4, G2 content. Cheers!

[@Ahmedblaser]

Now try flying at KLAX

[@bigbangerz5856]

I run a 4090 with the Vive Pro 2, would like to upgrade my headset but the lack of decent FoV options (which I consider essential) is depressing, even the Pimax Crystal seems to be coming up short and lets not mention the Bigscreen ‘throw FoV under a bus’ Beyond