How To Farmer's Walk: Turns, Tips and Tricks

[@mrfizch]

Why this dude got 2 sets of shoulders

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Hahaha, I am confused

[@mrfizch]

your traps lol

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Hahaha thanks man! they are from heavy farmer's and deads

[@johnty3221]

trap workout video please !

[@MikeLee-tv3pz]

You got them boulder shoulders with extra boulders! Exactly what I'm looking for, as I have a neck that makes giraffes look short. Farmers walks also give me runners high haha

[@NimW]

count trapula

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Hahaha!

[@commentconnoisseur1001]

oh, hi son.

[@jprichardson8791]

The fact that you fell and still smoked those guys is crazy

[@voborny]

Wow this is the most comprehensive farmers walk video I've seen on KZbin... and it's 7 years old. Bravo!

[@rafaelnacha1788]

i became a biggest fan of this dude, man you break it down and explain it. subscribe for this guy and you won't regret it

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thank you so much man!

[@bobtroti5581]

Love how you reply to every comment :) Few youtubers care about their fans that much. Great content by the way :)

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thank you so much, i really appreciate that!

[@jeraisnaturalfitness9313]

After seeing that first clip when u fell and never gave up I have much respect for u sir

[@mikesmancave8833]

Thanks for the advice! I'm currently at 74kg in each hand at 99kg bodyweight

[@stevelee3144]

One of the best videos out their on farmer walk tips! Thanks

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

I really appreciate that brother!

[@irmaesquivel2235]

That was super informative and helpful, especially the part about the turns. I hate the turns. Can't wait to try this out!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

That will be a game changer for you brother!

[@irmaesquivel2235]

Hahaha! I'm a girl, so mastering the turns must be a man maker of sorts! Too much of a game changer...

[@benrosenberg7972]

I definitely have trouble with turns! Thanks for the tips. I'm only 155, but I can do 185 per hand for 40 yards, but turning at 20 yards is killer!

[@JustinThiel]

I started lifting and strength training 12 weeks ago and I just found your channel a week ago. I'm truly addicted and want to learn from you as much as possible. I wish I would've watched this before yesterday, because I did my first set of Farmer Walks with dumbbells at my gym and felt something pop near my AC Joint. Going to get it checked out tonight. I know now that I shouldn't have let my shoulders drop and flex my traps while walking.. I should've kept my shoulders back and chest high. I just hope that it's a level 1 or 2 AC Joint injury and that I will heal 100%. I really want to start doing Strongman Training and this took the wind out of my sails. I know you have been through some bad injuries and that inspires me.. Thank you for the great channel!

[@terrycummings8415]

great info. i thought i knew everything about farmers walk, but you taught me something and i can't wait to try it. i already knew and agree with every other fact you said, but i never thought of cancelling momentum around the turns by opposing the handles. fantastic idea! i'm actually excited. 54 years old, can carry 210 in each hand for 25 feet out, turn, 25 feet return, 420 total. the only thing you didn't mention was romanian grip. i use it because i use triceps bars for my farmers walk. a cheap way out of buying fw handles. much better than dumbells. if you're reading this and like the idea, don't get the threaded handles. get the smooth handles and use spring clamps. it will save you time and aggravation during your workout. but romanian grip isn't possible with thick handles. you won't be able to reach and overlap your thumbs with your fingers. it takes a while to toughen the thumbs, but it's well worth it. probably get an extra 20 pounds in each hand with romanian grip. i learned it from a tommy kono seminar at york barbell when they inducted bill kazmeir into the strongman hall of fame. great event. kono is a genius. you may also like, magnus samuelson says to tighten the traps into an actual shrug to free up the legs. now i've tried it, but i don't really like it. i like my arms to just hang off my shoulders like ropes. this way i can put more of my mind into my grip, and let hip strength drive me. i'm sure it all has to do with body types. anyway, kudos my friend, great video. i will check you out often. maybe sometime i'll send you some outdoor workout video.

[@leonardochatzinas4932]

My man. Your traps are out of this world. Started with farmer's walk today and it is definitely my new fav exercise!

[@jamienyeste5438]

Dude i just stumbled on your channel the other day and i"m in love. you are awesome to watch, articulate and really seem to cover all the questions i have. Keep killing it man!

[@tjsho417]

Thank you so much for uploading this Brian, I can't tell you how long I've been waiting for this 'How To' Video lol! Farmers Walk is one of my favourite workouts and this is going to help me a ton. Thanks again brother!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Sure thing TJ, sorry it didn't get made faster!

[@tjsho417]

No worries! Can't wait to see what more you got in store for us!!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Hopefully some good content!...I hope!

[@shroudedunity]

shooting and moving. i KNEW it! i called it on one of your first videos. you have a military/LEO swagger to you.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Not anymore my friend...That was a past life

[@runescapeclassicable]

you got huge HAAUUUGEEEE traps... vid on that ? tips/tricks would be really great :D

[@abnercoelho4035]

I think its all his carries, deadlifts and presses.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Hahaha yea man, this IS the video on how to get them! It is all of the carries and heavy deadlifts I do

[@Moodiam]

Steroids

[@hironizer1332]

Hard work+ roids

[@josevillanueva9705]

I love you and respect your work because you do this for strength and not aesthetics

[@bobmcc6626]

This is the most helpful video on this topic that I have ever seen. Especially appreciate the turn instruction as I see now how I can make those turns better. Many thanks.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Sure thing Bob, Glad it helped!

[@bobmcc6626]

Turns are working better for me already thanks to the advice you presented here. Very helpful.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Sure thing man, i am glad it helped!

[@altemple5322]

Love this channel, I started doing farmers carries at my gym and you are right, everything hurts. I only have access to trap bar and have done 40' walk with 410#...its no joke. Thanks Brian

[@AxlGao12]

Not gonna lie, Alan brought me here. But I subscribed instantly! Love the videos, man! Thanks all the way from Mexico!

[@jaysmith2009]

Good advice thanks dude

[@ethanzydel5348]

thanks so much. I'm only 13 and I am in need of every tip I can get! so thankyou for the video

[@semaraugusto]

I don't have access to farmer's walks implements and my gym has a 34kg max dumbell, but I do have 2 H bars on my gym, so I load them up and use'em as if they were the implements. It works pretty well

[@deurerdan]

Great info, Brian. If any of your clients struggle with rolling their feet to walk smoothly, check out some marching band videos. It's called roll-step, or glide-step, and it's exactly what you were talking about.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

That is a great tip brother, thank you!

[@chappy4756]

Awesome vids man, appreciate all the effort and positive energy. Turned up the frequency and intensity of my farmer's walks. Graduated from my gym's biggest dumbells/kettlebells to a heavy-loaded trap bar for more carry weight. Keep the vids coming

[@wb416]

Great sprawl and recovery dude! Seriously, good information.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Hahah thanks man, it definitely got dicey!

[@johnnyriley4827]

Awsome tips. Great job.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thanks brother!

[@johnandstephanie377]

Excellent content, enjoy the channel. Thanks for the videos.

[@theBoonarmies]

Nice shout out to Clint, I've stumbled on to his videos recently and have picked up a few things from his channel as well. It would be cool to see a KZbin Strongman meet.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

He seems like a really cool guy, i hope I get to meet him some day but he lives in Cyprus now, so it is pretty doubtful

[@ruleoftwo9086]

Hey Brian, I really enjoy your channel. All of your content is pure gold! Keep it up!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thanks Neal, I really appreciate that!

[@bijansina848]

fantastic video. very informative and well delivered. farmers walks are one of my favorite bang for the buck exercises and this will make them better

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

That is great, I'm glad it helped!

[@chelseythomas388]

The tips and knowledge in this video!! My lanta. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us! I want to try farmer's walks now.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

That is awesome man, you should definitely give them a try!

[@fogleaton]

great video! really like strongman training looks badass

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

It's a lot of fun, you should try it!

[@waseemalmlek4678]

thank you a lot your videos always so useful I appreciated please I have a question what about yoke walk is farmer walk is enough or both of them should be in my training program and also what a bout shrugs too? thank you So much

[@JrFireweb]

Great video, just got me some farmers, time to put thede tips in motion.

[@MsquaredFTW]

thanks a ton Brian! hopefully my turns will look less drunk from now on

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Hahahah hopefully brother!

[@godzola392]

Ok, I’ll be studying this for tomorrow’s workout. Need to clean up my turn for the online qualifier next month

[@DonavonYoung]

I love these vids man. I have applied all your tips in my training, and it has already started paying off. Cheers!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

That is awesome feedback man, thank you!

[@aeiou99999]

Excellent. Thanks.

[@djdeej.]

Wow... never seen anyone take the trouble to teach the turn. Thank you. One question after watching this vid and the one you did on the yoke carry... if I could pick one to do for more upper body strength, which should I go with?

[@lauriemac28]

Great tips! Thank you!

[@oscarrobertson2257]

Excellent info/video!!!

[@adamhutchison19]

For the roll step if anyone happens to be or have been a marching band nerd (like I was in high school) it's the same step you use for marching band.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Absolutely true!

[@jorgesepulveda8380]

good advice. Thanks!

[@paulwilliamson6660]

Thanks, Brian. You're awesome.

[@benjaminjansen5393]

Another top notch how-to. Good stuff!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thanks Benjamin!

[@mikesmancave8833]

What are the best shoes for farmers walks

[@jeremybender3308]

I want start incorporating Farmer Walks into my training now. Should I use these as a secondary type exercise on deadlift days or would that be too taxing on my CNS for one day? Thanks for all the content you crank out. It is greatly appreciated.

[@harrisashraff]

awesome video bro.. tons of info.. will implement it

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thanks man, i appreciate it!

[@forbesfoofighters]

that tip for walking quietly/gently works miracles. this tip also applies to running and jogging. don't slap your feet, imagine you're barefoot and place your feet softly.

[@tdbUSA11]

Would a hex bar work as a substitute for actual handles or are dumbbells the best alternative?

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

I think the hex or trap bar would be better than dumbbells. No doubt there. Dumbbells should be your last resort if you don't have other options

[@tdbUSA11]

Awesome... Thanks Brian!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Sure thing!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Sure thing!

[@ruskudin]

Great content! Thanks a lot. I understand the 3 different days with variation of distance and weight. Do u recommend 1 day a week? Thanks

[@0v94]

best tutorial out there! and im a fan of the funny cuts

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thank you so much for saying that!

[@Kian19870]

Hey Brian, stumbled across your channel a while back and you have become one of my favorite youtubers! Seriously do not understand how you do not have like 500,000 subs! Anyway, I have a question/request. How would one go about programming strongman training? Would love if you made a video on this. I always wondered how many days are spent doing barbell movements & how many days are for strongman implements. How would you work them into lets say a 3x a week fullbody routine, or an uppper lower split? Keep up the good work man!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thanks for the kind words! I made a like 12 minute long video explaining how to layout strongman programming into your normal strength routine on Alan Thrall's Channel. It is called "Free Strength program" or something like that. That should point you in the right direction. Also if you want me to lay out a personalized program for you, i sell that service through my website

[@Kian19870]

I'll check that out, thanks. Would love to hire you but am broke at the moment haha, whenever I have a spare bit of cash I would definitely be up for it though. Cheers.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Absolutely man, I look forward to working together!

[@jonathanswinsburg7716]

Another great video. Very helpful, thanks!!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Glad it was helpful brother!

[@um52]

Another great video as always! I just had a really random question though! I want to use my trap bar for farmers walks. My max on the trap bar deadlift is 570. I'm aiming for total body HYPERTROPHY, not strength nor endurance etc...what percent of my 1rm (570lbs) should I start with..I'm aiming for 3 sets of 30 yard walks..my endurance is okay but I just want to put on size...thanks!

[@Michael-xj8ju]

Brian, thank you for doing these videos. I feel like you're going to be one of the most sought after coaches in the near future. Could you please elaborate on exactly how to breathe and brace during the farmer's walk. Breathing and bracing has added exponential gains to all of my other lifts. But here we are walking, we must breathe at some point, right? I've been breathing and bracing while picking up the implements. Then breathing normally while walking, bracing as much as possible. Am I doing it wrong?

[@theoilybarbell5187]

Big fan Brian. How do you feel about the hook grip with farmers walks? Any thoughts.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

I would love it if I could pull it off. The handles are too wide so I can't seem to get it. But if I could, i would

[@RonnieLunn84]

One of our competitions this year the farmer's had almost 1 3/4 inch handles... good luck hook gripping that. I'd say if you can do it do it, but do it in competition only, don't sacrifice the grip training.

[@theoilybarbell5187]

Very true. I have trouble with the hook grip anyway. My hands are just to small. I just opened up a gym and decided to include some strongman implements. Thought I'd get some opinions for my members. I appreciate the input.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Absolutely man, f you need anymore ideas, feel free to bounce them off of me

[@brianarcher5753]

I am new to farmers walk. What is the best type of footwear to use?

[@stefonejames8336]

what about dumbells farmers' walk? Yay or Nay?

[@erichill5328]

Brian, New subscriber great channel...! Question: Can you build decent leg size with just specializing in farmers carries? Or do you need to add in some form of front or back squats? I was thinking of the following: Monday: Heavy short distance Tuesday: off Wednesday: lite long distance Thursday: off Friday: medium / medium distance Repeat... Would I need to add any dead lifts or is this enough hip hinging? Not a strongman just enjoy all the benifits of the loaded carries. Many thanks....and Happy New Year. Best regards, Eric

[@iWiSHiHADSKiLLZ]

Got that farmer's tan to go with the walk lol

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Yep...I burn easily

[@macrobius726]

Thanks for this, I have a hell of a time with turns!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

They definitely mess a lot of people up, I am glad you found it helpful!

[@DasGregTheAlmighty]

Wicked video. I learned a whole lot. I always hesitate using farmers walk implement cause my gym has a uni-directional indoor track where we are allowed to use them so I'm always forced to go the full 200m. That's when taking breaks every so often counteracts my ego. I'm definitely going to implement them more often. Which lift days (bench, dealing, squat, ohp or row) do you recommend adding these farmers walks to?

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Hahaha I can totally understand that brother! I like to throw them after my deadlifts since a lot of the same muscles are used. But if I am getting ready for using them in a comp, I will have a carry day all on it's own

[@DasGregTheAlmighty]

Very good thank you so much.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Sure thing man!

[@cameronrumbolt1201]

Awesome that your subscribers keep going up. One of the best you tubers going.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thank you so much! Hopefully they just keep coming! it would be a dream to hit 100,000!

[@bobmcc6626]

Question - Brian - have you any experience and/or thoughts that you can share regarding the use of SPUD portable farmers handles? I have been thinking about purchasing them because they are portable (convenient) and they can handle the weight. However I do question whether the grip and the "to/fro movement" (or lack thereof) might not transition well to traditional farmer's handles work.

[@marzmarch]

I made some from slings and pipe. Works grip and traps and trains the movement. But you already identified the major difference between handles. Pull height is different and easier with straps as well. But they do kill the body.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Yea, i agree with what Ryan said. I have never used any myself so I am not sure how good or bad they are. But something is usually better than nothing!

[@Steveman1981]

"Don't do that"....lol... So do you have and videos on injures and or prevention. I have been overdoing frequency on bench and deadlift (not smart...but I was getting gains). I don't have a tear yet (I think) in my biceps and the area that the pec connects to the left arm, but I feel something nasty there when I stretch. I have been doing nothing for the past week and a half, hoping for the best! lol that is the only way I know on how to combat that! Head goes body follows...lol thats a Wrestling/Jui-Jitsu thought process. And yes I know the Road Runner, my life choices are on point....for the most part!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Yea man, I made one a few weeks ago but it is more about lower back problems but it covers some basic injury stuff as well. I hope it helps you out man, and hope you feel better soon man!

[@fellipepbraga]

Hey man, great video and awsome channel, I know this video is kind off old BUT if you could, I have kind off a "noob question" hahahaha, I split my training in 3 days (Squat Day/Bench Day/Deadlift Day) sooo, in wich day should I put the farmer's walk??? (Sorry for my realy bad english, i'm a brazilian hahahaha)

[@jaydubb85]

@brianalsuhe What about knee pain/shoe selection during the farmers walk? I recently started doing farmers walks at my gym, I did them three times a week for a week and then started to do another session the next week and could barely do them because the pain in my knees. I dont know if its because my knees arent used to the farmer walks or if its my shoes i was wearing(new balance running shoes) or a combo of both. What do you recommend- Thanks

[@michaelxguilfoylex2473]

thanks for this great info. yep I learned something new :)

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Sure thing, thanks for watching!

[@matthewmorley261]

Im doing farmers walk with a hex bar. Does it make much of a difference if i drop the weight at the end, turn and pick it back up or should i keep hold of it and turn. Im worried about the heavy weight twisting my back with the turning momentum with very heavy weight

[@geoffskate]

In the turn of the weight, you make it look easy with one plate. But.. what if I put more plates? Doesn't look easy to cross the outside wing over the top inside wing with a bunch of plates. Another problem is that I can't just drop the weight and grab it again in the turn because it hurts A LOT and the calluses gets worse (I would only do it in a competition). Is there any weight or distance that I should not do the turns? In my gym i have 50-60 feet of distance to walk. Thanks! And by the way.. this channel is amazing! Subscribed.

[@gardenjose]

I love farmers walks. I just wish my gym wasn't so bad and had some bars :( I want a huge upper back like yours. feels bad man.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

I totally understand man but make the most of what you have. I didn't have access until about 2 years ago when I decided to buy my own. But i feel your pain brother!

[@philclarke3660]

Quality content right here.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thanks Phil!

[@vvc_551]

I do farmers walkers at my gym with kettlebells. Any different tips I should follow than the ones you've mentioned? Ty

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Not too much, they probably just don’t go heavy enough to get the full training affects that you could get if you had handles

[@jc30005]

I can't find the vid u made where u had a program on a white board where there was a main move an accessory and a strongman lift. Heavy, medium, light. Can u tell me the title please.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

It is on Alan Thrall's Chanel and it is called Free strength program with Brian Alsruhe

[@jc30005]

Thanks. Do you think if I swapped out the strongman move for another accessory or 2 it can be used for bench squat and dead? Ohp being accessory for bench.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Yea man, absolutely. It is just a basic progression. You could fill it with whatever exercises you would want

[@lokarz8696]

Hello Brian, how are u doing?

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Hahaha doing awesome, how are you?

[@lokarz8696]

Man, Its almost 2am and I need to go to sleep but all I want to do is to pick some heavy shit in my hands and go with it for a walk. People would think that Im some robber or something. I think a better idea would be if I'll do it tomorrow morning. Peace

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Hahaha yea man, maybe wait until morning!

[@chrisizzy1801]

4:22 hell that's a enormous forearm! Looks like you could crush rocks with bare hands!!! O.O

[@rameshhansaravendra]

Today I walked 1km with 9kg dumbbells in each hand. Is that ok?

[@hesherishere3336]

Amazing traps dude

[@drivass_11]

Which is better farmer walks with trap bar or farmer carries like the one he's using?

[@markosverdhi]

What if my gym doesnt have those bars? My last gym had a hex bar but it was just too far. What bars can I use that are in the average gym?

[@rafaelnacha1788]

hei BRIAN, what do you think about ''intermediate fasting'' for strongman

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

I like it. It definitely helps some people make weight.

[@oska1010]

What are your thoughts on using fat gripz?

[@williamtopercer5296]

Hey Brian, what are your thoughts on using a trap bar if you don't have farmers implements or dumbbells that go heavy enough?

[@williamtopercer5296]

Anthony Tran, Thanks

[@BHLDR90]

For general strenght purposes is it ok to do this on deadlift/lower body day? I find this excersise very taxing.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Absolutely, it works most of the same muscle groups as the deadlift so i think that works well.

[@MrModguru]

What distance is considered a one rep max for farmers?

[@newerest1]

this is super in depth

[@michaelpritchard373]

Hey Brian, awesome content! Could you clarify why using dumbbells rather than specific farmers walk equipment will be more harsh on your grip?

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Because they roll out of your hand like a double overhand deadlift. The farmer's handles pull straight down . The weight distribution changes the entire game man!

[@michaelpritchard373]

Makes sense. Thanks

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Sure thing

[@JamesKeeton1]

Brain, this video has been incredibly helpful! The advice on the turn is awesome. I would have never figured that one out on my own. It's made a huge difference in my farmer's carries. Do you have a "How to Yoke Carry"? I've been working my way though your channel, but haven't seen it yet. Cheers, JK

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thank samna, but I have't made that one yet. My Strongman videos get less views than anything so I only throw them in sparingly. I wish there was more of an audience because I have a LOT to say about that kind of stuff!

[@JamesKeeton1]

10-4, I'd defiantly watch it. I guess most people don't have access to the equipment...

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Yea or they choose not to participate because of the Sport's stigma. But hopefully that is changing.

[@terrycummings8415]

well, you have one new watcher here. i do dinosaur workouts. i'll look at your strongman stuff. thanks.

[@jones786]

+Brian Alsruhe Brian, could you explain what you mean about the sport's stigma? I didn't know it had a stigma. I thought bodybuilding had more of a stigma because of the *extreme* steroid use and unnatural looking physiques, whereas strongman was pretty respected (as functional, authentic etc.).

[@grassman8684]

Stupid question, How do I get a 1 rep max on Farmers walk? I mean am I looking for the amount I can pickup or a distance? Thx. Brian

[@harrisashraff]

i don't have farmers handle... can i do a farmer walks by using ropes wrapped around plates? will i get the same stimulus?

[@corneredfox7216]

Hey, man. Do you shrug your shoulders as you walk, or do you let the weights pull down on the traps (where you get that downward stretch on the traps)?

[@NattyvsJuiced]

I know it's not ideal but I find if I don't bend my elbows slightly it kills my elbow joints.

[@bloodynose5970]

Welcome to the Trap Nation. Your guide:Brian Alsruhe ;)

[@angrykoala6390]

mate on what body part day can I incoprate this exercise in my workout routine? I wanna look half as good as u do

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

They usually work well after your deadlift my friend!

[@fpalitang]

I'm just curious what kind of various footwear you use for all the different Strongman events. Do you just use one flat shoe for everything?

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Nope! Barefoot for deadlifts, only shoes for squat and press event's and Nike Freeruns for carries, hope that helps!

[@ClickForAVirus]

i wanna do farmers walks but im at commercial gym, and dumbells dont come close to implements

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Then change gyms or make some implements of your own out of towing straps and PVC Pipe. Solutions, my friend...

[@ClickForAVirus]

im gonna look into making my own like you suggested, btw does bad sleep quality affect your strength progression or workouts, i feel like if you have diet in check sleep is not that major but this is coming from someone who has trouble staying asleep for more than 4-5 hours so im kinda bias

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

I'm in the same boat as you. I have always had trouble with sleep, but people swear it makes a huge difference so i am just going off what the proverbial "they" say

[@jhonsmith8638]

Nader Chowdhury i know it has been 11 months but i must answer. i have been working a night job for 6 momths at the start iwas good got lots more food in me and hitting prs but now its cathing up to me the lack of sleep so i belive sleep is more important then food or training.