How to figure amount of Lithium Battery needed

[@manitobamanitoba1796]

Ty for truly helping out the car audio community.....your are one of the best selfless teachers🙏

[@SlamryCamry19]

Great explanation it actually helps me a lot good video

[@jasonbroom7147]

Helping people figure things out only helps them to a certain degree...unless they're really trying to learn.

[@kareemdefour4426]

What’s the c rating of the lishen 18AH and lishen 16AH?

[@jaz97]

Prob would have been better to show the equations to use so people can get started if they don't have a clamp.

[@TheLostAdventuress]

Make a Better video

[@grady.stu.8300]

Just go buy a clamp then. Can't expect someone to do everything for you in a KZbin video.

[@CSIT-energy]

Thank you very much for sharing

[@BoomTerra]

Salt 8K pulling 700amps. I have 12 prismatic lto 10ah 75c. I'm getting 12 more for a second 8k samn amp. That good?

[@Vesxel]

Are the CALB 3.2v 100Ah LiFePO4 Rechargeable Battery hood to use I can’t find no videos

[@gilbertsanchez4926]

I have 4 3000 2 ohms and 1 10500 what would be the best pack?

[@anthonymoy4471]

So if i wanna run a razor mx650 with a flipsky contoller 200amp for 2 hours what kinda setup do i need

[@BARBELLS-AND-BUDS]

Can you tell me a good inexpensive source to get the 45 amp hour yinglong LTO?

[@chadbeverly4926]

So a smart 8k pulls around 740 amp @2 ohms but for easy math let’s just say 800amps @2 ohms. So does that mean I need to divide 800 by 30 since the cells are 30 ah even though they have a 300 amp discharge to find out how many I would properly need to power it sufficiently ?

[@miguelcannegieter4813]

Hey bigg bro. I luv and appricate your insightful content. I personaly have gain more knowledge thanks to you and opened my mind to new things. On that note. I have to ask. If you were to run LTO cells which ones would u recommend for the absolute best performance @15.5v LISHEN, YINLONG, SHENGQUAN ? From your personal experience with these cells. Or are the headway Best bang for buck. @ 14.8 v. Dispite being lipo4 and sitting at a lower voltage. Pls and thank you bigg bro.

[@miguelcannegieter4813]

Bigg bro where can I purchase grade A LISHEN CELLS?

[@caraudionation6897]

Two banks of scibs 10ah charging on 200 amp alternator at 15.2 should support a taramps smart 5 (believe 500amps current pull)? Will upgrade to four banks after

[@mazda2284]

i would shoot for 40ah right away in 1 shot . that way you have more than enough and the proper reserve

[@Playinsince98-rk6ss]

Im kinda of on the same boat pulling around 270 amps , installing 250 amp alt, what cell bank would you recommend wana run 14.5 volts

[@Playinsince98-rk6ss]

@mazda2284

[@justforlaughs8988]

Well you could use the ohms law pie chart if you figure out voltage and wattage it will tell you what your amperage will be and impedance

[@deriklfixit]

YES!!!! I WAAS HUGE HELP.

[@travismoore8622]

I have a 320 amp alternator-will I be safe (not overcharging) a 32ah Headway 38120HP bank? What is the equation (alt amp vs AH)? Thanks in advance for the help, I really appreciate it.

[@FatMat916]

I had a 320 on my 64ah headways with a dc 5k and 90.4. Didn’t drop past 13.9

[@josephsaucedo8691]

Made sense to me I'm not the greatest at math but I no how to use Google lol it helped I don't know a how lot about batteries but it do electrical panel at work and understand about amp and what the draw is I can understand if someone no nothing how it could be harder to understand by the way good stuff I just found your channel I'll watch a couple more videos 👍👌✌️💯🎶 have a great one till the next one bass on💣🎇

[@mazda2284]

Thanks for watching! I try to explain things the best I can

[@drvictoria07]

So how many cells of those scib 10ah would i need for 10k watts rms power.

[@loudroverdc]

So how many do I need?

[@momanholmes8715]

I see people running lto SQ or yinlong 5S on 14.4 charging. The spec sheet says 2.8v max per cell so 5 would be 14v ...is that ok 14.4-14.6v charging?

[@mazda2284]

No . People running them over max voltage will find out in time how bad of a choice that is .

[@cerberusb4768]

@@mazda2284 So what's the optimal voltage to charge those Yinlong cells?

[@riversidefarms5845]

By chance do your know if those Taramps power supply / battery charger can be used to charge lithium such an yinlong and Toshiba scibs Or used as an alternator to play music at home with the car off

[@mazda2284]

Yea I run 480ah on my test bench with dual 100a power supplies

[@mazda2284]

I use rv power supplies that are adjustable voltage , they are made well and to last dealing with ac or refrigerator startups , cheaper too

[@riversidefarms5845]

@@mazda2284 can u send me a link to get a good one Maybe 200a or more Or even the 100a

[@mazda2284]

@@riversidefarms5845 amzn.to/3QsOcoy

[@zaranovian]

Hi, we currently have a 40' fifth wheel with 3 ACs that draw 16 amps each while they're running and including the refrigerator, etc. we are looking at 50 amps total. How many Lithium batteries would be needed to power all at the same time continuously drawing the 50 amp for an 8 hour period? Thank you!

[@mazda2284]

that would require 400ah minimum . however you do not want to be drawing the batteries down that far , i recommend doing 4s2p of the 280ah or 300ah lifepo4 cells , 8 cells total , this should give you plenty so your needs are covered and not over drawing the cells which will help with lifespan and they are easy to assemble yourself . it will also be far cheaper than other lithium options . there are a few 4s balancer options , ha12 has bluetooth app for android or a simple 4s heltec . discount code BDSB for all these products from sriko battery 2 Pack EVE (3.2V 280Ah LiFePo4) cells for RV, Solar discount code BDSB srikobatteries.com/product/2-pack-eve-280ah-lifepo4-prismatic-lithium-cells/?wpam_id=8 300ah 2pack 300a constant 600a peak cells Use Discount Code: BDSB srikobatteries.com/product/2-pack-eve-300ah-lifepo4-prismatic-lithium-cells/?wpam_id=8

[@zaranovian]

@@mazda2284 OK thank you. Unfortunately we don't really understand all of that lol. We were thinking of getting 3 lithium batteries and an inverter.

[@mazda2284]

@@zaranovian srikobatteries.com has a 200ah talentcell prebuilt battery that is simple to use. 3 of those would work for your needs . They have built in bms and voltmeter. I did a video on the 100ah , my dad uses one for his fishing boat , I use mine for portable power with a inverter

[@LithiumBatteryGuy]

Are you talking about 16amps at 110v?

[@bassin_uce3732]

Hey I a 320 brand x alt charging at 15.8-9 v on 2 bass 8ks @.5 and a md 5k on mids and md 1800 on tweets. Will 40-60ah scibs work or 72 ah plannano work better?

[@ericsmith3317]

72ah of plannano with the right alt... Will power a city block at supper time buddy

[@MickeyMishra]

Here is a SIMPLE way to figure this out for anyone. Make a battery bank. Get a Voltage meter. A Phone with Bluetooth connected to your stereo/Amp/DSP/Etc for signal. With the battery connected, if your voltage drops below the voltage you want to run? You need to add more battery banks in PARALLEL. So you need more cells for CAPACITY. If your doing COMPETITION? How much you need is 10 times what you think you need. So, basically? if you spent 1000 on Batteries alone? You need to spend 5,000. And your where you need to be. If your just doing a Daily? And are planning to build your own? Aim for spending about a grand just on cells. And then another $1,000 on hardware and a BMS system of your choice for a stock system that pulls about 300 amps at above 13 volts stable on bass notes. to reiterate, As soon as you see a drop in voltage, you need more cells in parallel in your bank. For reference? A 3 motor tesla on acceleration uses close to 1000 amps from the battery at 400V. With losses and other loads? That about 1300 amps. And it sags down to 320v or more depending on age of the fully charged cells. Older packs can dip to 300 from ~400 volts floating charge state. That battery is the almost the length of the Tesla. To put this into perspective? Since an unregulated amp puts out more watts up to its maximum rated voltage around 15v, but your car charges at 14.5 being the modern norm? Your Pack size to stay at that sweet spot @ 14.5 would need to be 6 times the size of a tesla pack to maintain a 30 second burst while pulling 700 amps continues from the battery without any voltage drop at all. There are ways around this? But if you are strictly out there with the goal of a 12v system wanting to compete? That's pretty much what your looking at if your goal is no more than 5% voltage drop for a 30 second burst. For anyone who is NOT competing in any sanctioned events? Simply go with the high-voltage system and use a high-voltage amplifier and call it a day. It's so much more cost-effective and the amount of power that you're going to hit for the money you spend is ridiculous! if you want to do something like this on the Cheap without buying something like a Tesla with the 400 volt power system then simply pick up an electric car of your choice with a pack voltage of at least 250v or higher. If you really want to go Budget? Just get a USed Prius. Hack the motor controller, and have it send out audio signals to your subwoofers. They are good for about 80KW. I said Kilowatts. Not watts. Basically? Its the most bullet proof Subwoofer amp known in existence. And it can do it all day long on a hot day. Regardless of the Impedance. BTW? Those high voltage amps are less then $800 bucks. Buy it from Amazon with the 4 year warranty, and make out like a pig in shit. Just one High voltage amp can put out over 50,000 watts RMS. More than you'll ever need. The only thing you will have to worry about is popping the main battery fuse on the EV. So keep some spares around. No adding any batteries. Just tap into the wiring. Add your amp, and your subwoofer box and your done. All for the low cost of less then $1000 bucks. No kidding. All your wiring and hardware needed / Required can come from the HomeDepot. It (CAN BE) [is] the most cost effective way to get power to your subwoofers imaginable. And done on a budget anyone with a JOB can afford.

[@coreyv3071]

Currently have 180ah cmax, 290 amp alt, and 4k amps draw. With alt charging voltage is good, with no alt voltage drops reasonably fast. Does that sound normal or could I have weak/ damaged cells?

[@ripsta2009]

Thats normal. If ya have a weak cell or damaged usually it will not hold voltage even at rest.

[@coreyv3071]

@@ripsta2009 I just got the bank and so far at idle no use voltage seems to hold.

[@mazda2284]

@@coreyv3071 what voltage are you charging your cmax ?

[@418lightning8]

my question is more like how many amps can I charge each type battery before its a problem point me in the right direction at least

[@gregblau8082]

I'm still wrapping my head around lithium before I make a decision. I have 2 builds coming up. One has a 150 amp factory alternator and will probably draw 150-200 amps. I'm thinking I about a 16 ah bank. Other car will probably be 350ish amps. I'm wondering if a larger bank would be enough for cranking it for a song once in a while

[@ericsmith3317]

16ah bank of what and what's your charge voltage?

[@gregblau8082]

I put 24ah of headway on the daily and it's running a 3k no problem. Charging doesn't drop below 14.5 but I have to keep the headlights on because it has a "smart" alt

[@ericsmith3317]

@@gregblau8082 have u unplugged your battery temp sensor?

[@gregblau8082]

No I haven't. I've run it with and without a underhood battery without seeing much difference. I like to have one though

[@ericsmith3317]

@@gregblau8082 I could tell a huge difference in my 40ah after I unhooked my AGM , my headway bank charges way faster without the AGM

[@mekyle9010]

Hey ..you ever tried running 40ah and 45ah yinlong cell banks in parallel? Each with there own balancer and connecting to a distribution block for positives and negatives

[@mazda2284]

You can do that with basically any lto in similar voltage range , ive mixed scibs , yinlong, nano , lishen , Shengquan all in different ways , as long as they are their own banks and have thier own balancer . The 40ah is better than 45ah yinlong tho just FYI. personally I'd use scib 10ah prismatic lto or Shengquan 6ah, they are sooooo much more powerful

[@mekyle9010]

@@mazda2284 thanks for response boet ,I'm currently running 90ah bank 410 alt , they doing bladdy good ,I'm yet to see how the 40s perform but very happy with 45s , only reason I might add some 40s in parallel is due to 45s being a bit scarce atm

[@mazda2284]

@@mekyle9010 add some shens or scibs and you will never want to buy a yinlong again lol

[@mekyle9010]

@@mazda2284 yikes those aren't readily available in South Africa , or atleast I haven't found any this side boet

[@mekyle9010]

Seeing as you mentioned 40 dominates 45ah ,what about 35ah cells ? Are they even better than 40 or similar besides capacity

[@Kicker700]

Finally! It's ampage not watts. It drives me nuts when all these people ask that damm question. They also think a battery is going to fix all there problems. It's only a storage device!

[@brandongrant1107]

I'm not really good at math anymore, so I have a Taramps md8k and DS1200/4 totalling just under 10k watts. charging at 15.2 volts Brand X 350 Amp alt. How many AH do I need to constant support of full wattage?

[@brandongrant1107]

all lithium types that can handle 15+ volt systems

[@ripsta2009]

With LTO technically a bank of 40ah yinlongs. Though per ah lishen is a stronger cell. But for reserve ya will probably wanna run around 72ah-80ah depending on which cells ya use.

[@BrandonMcClanahan]

LISHEN 26ah 2.5v LTO cells. I see them for sell on AliExpress. Are these real cells? Thinking of ordering some.

[@mazda2284]

dont trust anything on alibaba

[@mikew6135]

Look give a general idea for different power levels and for music or SPL type play. No need to make completely complicated.

[@mobshipa187]

Gonna be pushing 2 scv7500 at .67ohm each plus a sax200.4 v1 or v2 and maybe another sax for the tweeters so maybe 2000 to 2500 amps more or less really want to build my own bank have 2 cyber 12k’s at the moment I know there not going to do well.. I like the scib cells or yinlongs since I’m gonna be charging around 15.5 to 16 any more info would be very appreciated thank you

[@ericsmith3317]

Look at shenanquan (or how ever u spell it lol) I run plananno on factory alt at 14.8 nearly it's minimum charge voltage (14.5) and it's a straight up beast and I run 2 - 24ah banks 48ah total it runs my whole car , a skv2 4500 at .5ohm and a salt 2000.6 with ease

[@kevinAuman1]

Alright bro I got a question for ya lol I've been trying to figure this out for a while now and didn't want to risk damaging a $1k+ battery just to find out soooo do you know exactly what all is inside of my limitless cyber 12k??? I've heard multiple different things and not one person was absolutely 100% sure about their answers either lol I was told it has 38ah of pouches and then it also has ioxus caps inside and I do know it has to be something different than their reg liths because they rate the 45ah at 8k on 300a of charge while the cyber is only 38ah but rated for 12k but not specified on how much charge 🤷‍♂️🤔

[@mazda2284]

A123 pouch cells , around the time they started making those is when the 25ah cells disappeared from the Chinese lithium market . Id place my bets on that without having one here to pull apart and read the numbers on the cells . Knowing how limitless does things I wouldn't pay for a limitless battery

[@kevinAuman1]

@nate0 well that waste of money is powering my Wolfram AW-9000.1D just fine lmao and I never pay full price for anything so I scored a new one for $700 and had a dude offer me an older used 100ah limitless for it so I kinda knew right away that I might have had something if a guys offers you 100ah for 38ah

[@Tekjive]

I have the clamp listed and it’s badass and on point, and cheap af. Also what group do you belong to? I’d like to join, I want to devise my own bank for a modest 300-400 amp system based on music running an Orion 3kW ClassD + 750W ClassA/B

[@mazda2284]

facebook.com/groups/2142284452700573/?ref=share

[@FirstLast-tx3yj]

@@mazda2284 10C and 15C is low isnt it? Doesnt listen support 50C continious and 75+ peak??

[@mazda2284]

@@FirstLast-tx3yj not when studded , 50c lishen is welded . thats why the welded shens do so much more than non welded .

[@FirstLast-tx3yj]

@@mazda2284 you mean these cell have studs on the end so they have low C but the lishen is welded instead of having studs on the ends so it is capable of 50C?

[@mazda2284]

​@@FirstLast-tx3yj the lishens we get are not welded together so the specs given by lishen are not usable . with studs they are around 35c max with proper bussing like project db , with poor bussing you wont see anywhere near 35c and could be as low as 20c . studded shens are 40c , welded are 60c .

[@Rumblebee2655]

A how to video that never showed how to! Thought i may learn a little something, looked of interest.... o well

[@ericsmith3317]

What's the name of your group ???

[@ROTTBOXX]

Who makes bars for plananno cells? Going to get 42 and make a massive bank for a 15k

[@mazda2284]

1022 all fab , they have 6s6p in stock on sriko message 1022 all fab on facebook for custom orders Sriko Battery USA Sriko Discount code= BDSB srikobatteries.com/?wpam_id=8

[@jasenlauver4862]

Are you building banks for people bro?

[@ulakaipale5707]

can u make a vid on headways pls

[@mazda2284]

I have a bunch of videos on headway , go to my lithium playlist or search my channel for headway

[@ulakaipale5707]

@@mazda2284 more like matching an alternator, front battery with lithium?

[@michaelmartinez6660]

So how much lithium would i need to run a 10k amp?lol

[@basshead30]

👍👀👍

[@lowhertzhighspl]

What's better main battery? 14v (16v) 10ah LTO versus 12v (14.4V) 80ah AGM as a main battery with 1500f super cap? The most amps (burp) would be 1200amps. I ask bcuz my 12V AGM 80ah would start my car 5 days later (my car constantly draws 0.75amps 24/7 when not on due to dashcam and alarm) whereas now that I switched over to LTO 14v 10ah (30 eqah) which I charge at 15.8v and my car won't start after 8-12 hrs! Wtf. And the LTO costs 2x to 3x as much as my D3400! Grrr.

[@blakebrockhaus347]

That's not a problem with the LTO, 10ah just isn't enough to reliably run a car. Personally I wouldn't go below ~30. Because most cars come with 40ah of battery stock.

[@marquesgraham7887]

You didn’t explain anything 🤣