Dangerous vs. Safe batteries, Explosion and fire test!

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Li-Pol (LiPo) batteries are widely used in nearly all Cell phones and other home electronics. Yet, they are unstable and dangerous. In our test, we compare LiPo with available LFP and LTO technologies.
You may not recognize the danger of sitting in your pocket, but consider the danger for projects involving batteries and prevent future issues. Designing a machine, device or tool that uses batteries? Choose wisely!
All tested batteries are based on lithium, however, the additional substances in LFP and LTO provide necessary stabilization and prevent dangerous behaviour.
Are you wondering how toxic is that smoke? This we've measured in this episode: • How toxic are the Lith...
We tested:
Overcharge
Li-Pol (0:24)
LTO (1:03)
LFP (1:28)
Short-Circuit
LTO (2:27)
LFP (3:02)
Puncture
LTO (3:54)
Li-Pol (4:28)
LFP (5:05)
External fire (ignition)
Li-Pol (6:17)
LTO (6:30)
LFP (6:56)
The safe LFP and LTO on our shop:
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www.ev-power.eu/LTO-technology/
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Пікірлер: 899
@GWLPowered
@GWLPowered 4 жыл бұрын
We tested (timed links): ----------- Overcharge Li-Pol (0:24) LTO (1:03) LFP (1:28) Short-Circuit LTO (2:27) LFP (3:02) Puncture LTO (3:54) Li-Pol (4:28) LFP (5:05) External fire (ignition) Li-Pol (6:17) LTO (6:30) LFP (6:56)
@headlessxp4948
@headlessxp4948 3 жыл бұрын
Weird @6:17. I have never seen a LiPo in an 18650 Li ion package before. Where did you get these?
@bonnyadrian2887
@bonnyadrian2887 3 жыл бұрын
Wow ...
@Psi105
@Psi105 3 жыл бұрын
@@headlessxp4948 lipol is a battery brand. Lipo is a battery chemistry type. The video is a bit confusing
@cakonemicke2198
@cakonemicke2198 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKfOmqyMidubg6s those Winstone batteries sucks big time
@ev-olution8597
@ev-olution8597 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you cleaned all this contaminated site after your tests. I can see the crop fields near by. Do you know that lithium batteries are very toxic, especially when burning. You even spilled some water on punctured cells, which then ended up in the soil. The worst thing is that it was done by firefighters, as usually they are the persons who knows about such dangers. But not in this case, it seems they are stupid enough even to breath in the toxic fumes.
@rakshitjain7755
@rakshitjain7755 3 жыл бұрын
conclusion : lipo batteries are a good substitute to firecrackers
@CarLoverPhotography
@CarLoverPhotography 3 жыл бұрын
And life po4 is a great toxic smoke bomb substitute
@Gregory_12
@Gregory_12 3 жыл бұрын
Conclusion: GWL is a no good company that is taking our rights to own batteries that can spontaneously combust
@viejaspeliculasfilipinas3621
@viejaspeliculasfilipinas3621 2 жыл бұрын
For me, it's a source for death smoke, and oh, the smell of fire
@Jackson22379
@Jackson22379 2 жыл бұрын
@@CarLoverPhotography naaa ,not enough smoke
@Tejas_Edu
@Tejas_Edu 2 жыл бұрын
The thing you are holding is also a firecrackers
@jestronixhanderson9898
@jestronixhanderson9898 3 жыл бұрын
I knicked a lithium pouch with a box cutter in my bedroom :) I ran with it in my hand to the other end of the house to find the screen door locked! Grabbed the keys and unlocked the door, I threw the battery which was a massive smoke machine by then, before it hit the ground it burst into flames ! That was a close call ! Lesson learnt !
@soekarmana
@soekarmana 3 жыл бұрын
lol when you cut that lithium pouch : "the bomb has been planted"
@bbqpitmaster1324
@bbqpitmaster1324 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Close call for sure. Hope your hand was alright!
@huntzkush
@huntzkush 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just genuinely curious... you're screen door has a key lock on it? And why is the lock on the wrong side? Lmao
@drewjohnson4794
@drewjohnson4794 Жыл бұрын
@@huntzkush LOL
@user2C47
@user2C47 Жыл бұрын
That screen door is almost certainly a fire code violation. A point of egress must not lock to the inside without a readily available means of unlocking it.
@km5405
@km5405 3 жыл бұрын
safety and energy density is always a engineering tradeoff. most of the more volatile chemistries are perfectly safe if treated right. but there is something to be said about using inherently safer chemistries for alot of applications.
@kadragon3764
@kadragon3764 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Li-PoL are very common because of their form factor compared to that of the others. You may say that they're super dangerous, but that's if you're excluding modern circuitry that commonly comes with said batteries effectively eliminating almost all of the risks. Similar way to Nuclear Power in a way. It is arguably one of the cleanest and most efficient energy production methods. Modern plants have many safety features making a meltdown very very unlikely. But due to it being also one of the most horrible disasters if it does go horribly wrong, a few accidents have put a bad taste in many people's mouths.
@BloPsy__
@BloPsy__ 3 жыл бұрын
@Stratos Fear Nuclear power is safe if you follow proper guidelines too :) Jokes aside, nuclear power is the most efficient source of energy right now and also one of the cleanest at the same time. Sure there is nuclear waste, but there are reactors in development that can use said waste as fuel. The most used power plants are still coal ones and they are much worse ecologically than the nuclear ones. Not even mentioning that by burning coal, there are radioactive particles released into the air.
@javabeanz8549
@javabeanz8549 3 жыл бұрын
@Stratos Fear how about Hanford?
@mode3763
@mode3763 2 жыл бұрын
@@BloPsy__ So why does everyone wanna get rid of nuclear power and cover everything in PV panels?
@BloPsy__
@BloPsy__ 2 жыл бұрын
@@mode3763 Because of the "very smart" people that fear the Nuclear energy. Germany is great example. They had shut down their nuclear power plants, yet their renewable energy sources aren't sufficient enough for the country. They are buying energy from other countries - that energy is mostly produced by coal and nuclear power plants. For example, Czechia is the one country that is selling it's energy to Germany. And Czechs do not want to shut down their nuclear power plants even tho there are a lot of protests from their neighbours. They even plan on upgrading the existing powerplants to get more energy, because they know that coal will once dry up and nuclear is only viable option in this part of the world. Solar panels are utopian dream that will cost huge amount of money and will pollute our planet a lot if everyone will really switch to that. Not even mentioning the need of some sort of energy storage for winters, bad weather times etc. It will be probably huge battery banks, which will only last for few decades since you know, batteries, that will pollute our world so much, that those "very smart" people will regret not trusting Nuclear energy.
@wascalywabbit
@wascalywabbit 3 жыл бұрын
So,regardless of battery and application (other than cars) it looks like it would be a good idea that the battery box should be something like a wood stove /oil drum stove with a chimney that vents to the outside for solar and wind battery banks just for precautionary safety... This video just made me redesign my bank in my head over a power wall
@lihtan
@lihtan Жыл бұрын
I actually put my ebike battery inside the stove when I charge it.
@norcore8504
@norcore8504 11 ай бұрын
Tesla always shows their power wall bank things outside the house in all their images for this reason
@peterjackson2625
@peterjackson2625 7 ай бұрын
Maybe all EV batteries should have a fireproof chimney. Just in case.
@greedfox7842
@greedfox7842 5 ай бұрын
we make battery bunkers for charging lipo batteries in the FPV RC drone hobby. its a fireproof brick stove, with a battery charger inside... our 6s 1500mah batteries could burn a house to the ground.
@GWLPowered
@GWLPowered Жыл бұрын
Are you wondering how toxic is that smoke? This we've measured in this episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6HHf56NqJ2Wpac
@lukef.7049
@lukef.7049 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting tests! What was the state of charge of the batteries? Note that the probability of a thermal runaway significantly drops at a low state of charge. This is especially important when buying cells that have been transported by air. Those are usually shipped at 30% SoC.
@davidniquot6423
@davidniquot6423 4 жыл бұрын
Those are interesting cases .. but .. what was the overcharging current for each case .. cause it really depend on the charge current.
@dirk480
@dirk480 3 жыл бұрын
I wish it would give the statistics such as the voltage and amperage when it was overcharging at the time.
@cleversolarpower
@cleversolarpower 2 жыл бұрын
I recommend these videos to my readers who say lifepo4 is a bad chemistry. Great video!
@chrisE815
@chrisE815 Жыл бұрын
What's their casw against it?
@hathaway.1166
@hathaway.1166 3 ай бұрын
@@chrisE815they are extremely sensitive to cold temperatures, but that’s about the only major issue with it
@nickfirst7249
@nickfirst7249 28 күн бұрын
Lifepo is cold resistant actually, their drawback is lesser energy density afaik ​@@chrisE815
@ThatJay283
@ThatJay283 Жыл бұрын
batteries be like: LTO: i squirt LiFePO4: i swell, i smoke LiPo: i boom
@junaidgt90
@junaidgt90 3 жыл бұрын
Li-Pol Is like “You have chosen death” 😡 ☠️
@franciscoshi1968
@franciscoshi1968 3 жыл бұрын
LiPol are mostly used in RC devices like planes and cars where performance is the most important (energy density and power density) safety is not a high priority in this application.
@suprememasteroftheuniverse
@suprememasteroftheuniverse 3 жыл бұрын
Cell phones
@justatiger6268
@justatiger6268 Жыл бұрын
This was very well done, informative and interesting to watch!
@Sylvite.
@Sylvite. 3 жыл бұрын
2:39 whenever my dad sneezes
@yeasin1349
@yeasin1349 3 жыл бұрын
😻😻😹😹😹
@flashbotai262
@flashbotai262 2 жыл бұрын
great job guys...appreciate your effort
@eksine
@eksine 3 жыл бұрын
great demo video, thank you!
@Silpheedx
@Silpheedx 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for doing the first fair tests I've seen anyone do.
@A2an
@A2an 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video👍 Well I would have liked to see the voltage, current and Wh and the cell should have been at the same ah. As you see some people seam to be confused and believe that the "safe" cell has the same energy density. The first thing to understand wit battery is that there is a trade off no matter what you do.
@JasonJrake
@JasonJrake Жыл бұрын
Good points. LTO have less than half the Wattage-density and are lower voltage too. They also have a more stable voltage loss during discharge, which is great for output usage but makes measuring their charge percentage less accurate.
@kayzinti4452
@kayzinti4452 Жыл бұрын
@@JasonJrake Uh... LTO has a higher cell voltage than LFP. It does have lower Watt (VoltAmp) density. Will Prowse has a nice comparison of LFP to LTO here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4ClhKt7pr2Ih8U
@JasonJrake
@JasonJrake Жыл бұрын
@@kayzinti4452 I’ve seen that video and I’m not sure what you are referring to. The lowest listed nominal ratings i found online: for LTO is 2.4v, for LFP it’s 3.2v. Maybe cells arranged into 12+ volt stacks are higher voltage in LTO though, if that’s what you mean. The rule of thumb for lithium chemistries is that: As nominal voltage goes down, Discharge voltage slope flattens, Functional Temp range increases, Watt-hour density decreases, Safety increases.
@39FORTYWATER
@39FORTYWATER 3 жыл бұрын
Great study!
@keithrobinson870
@keithrobinson870 3 жыл бұрын
Great video guys, thanks
@selvamanivsmani4735
@selvamanivsmani4735 3 жыл бұрын
Does the transition metal ions present in the cathodes (other than LFP) influences or catalyzes the thermal runaway while damaging. in both cases, Li-ion shuttles and the same carbonate electrolyte. (in electrochemistry point of view completely agreed, but..), pls clarify my doubt
@SniperSnake50BMG
@SniperSnake50BMG 3 жыл бұрын
Hello one question. There is a cylindrical cell of about 10 to 15ah so it can be installed in a electric motorcycle
@musicmind2778
@musicmind2778 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for good information
@high1voltage1rules
@high1voltage1rules 3 жыл бұрын
Epic Loved it, those lipo batteries are mental lol
@yuviywc12
@yuviywc12 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video
@vincentmasanja6979
@vincentmasanja6979 Жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏 Thank all of you for this training video.
@larsfilusch8705
@larsfilusch8705 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have an idea what is the short circuit current of the Lfp cell ?
@ev-olution8597
@ev-olution8597 3 жыл бұрын
Spilling highly toxic waste next to crop fields... Breathing in highly toxic fumes... Best firefighters I seen so far...
@abhijitbhujel1418
@abhijitbhujel1418 3 жыл бұрын
Very useful video,thank you for knowledge able video.
@NkRemTeh
@NkRemTeh Жыл бұрын
Спасибо за тест! У меня много li-ion и li-pol аккумуляторов, теперь знаю как ведут себя в разных условиях.
@tipsandtricks2974
@tipsandtricks2974 3 жыл бұрын
sir is want to make battery modules for solar system which is best or more life cycle or heavy duty lifepo or lto or which is more safer or more backup or more reliable please answer me I want make I battery bank for 48v
@LewisCoraline
@LewisCoraline Жыл бұрын
Highly impressive information!
@laernulienlaernulienlaernu8953
@laernulienlaernulienlaernu8953 Жыл бұрын
LiPo batteries always remind me of microwave popcorn when they fail. 🔥💥
@ksenergy9079
@ksenergy9079 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent real world test
@evservice369
@evservice369 2 жыл бұрын
hello bro can i use this video contend for my you tube channel for education purpose
@KokoroDenshin
@KokoroDenshin 2 жыл бұрын
best education, very useful information, thank you.
@omaralvarado1080
@omaralvarado1080 3 жыл бұрын
This is why you need to use fuses and charging regulators for all types of batteries. This is a wonderful wonderful test.🤗🤗
@blackturbine
@blackturbine 3 жыл бұрын
Nope this is just a marketing scheme to show lipo as a ticking time bomb
@emersonsrandomvideos248
@emersonsrandomvideos248 3 жыл бұрын
4:34 dude you've just released the demons imprisoned in that battery. You're now curse by that battery's evil spirit.
@wlsnpndrvs8593
@wlsnpndrvs8593 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone should know about the occult and the evil in this world. And batteries are the main source. They're not allowed in hell because they're far too evil for hell that's why we have them here. Repent.
@MrNiezalogowany
@MrNiezalogowany 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of camera do you use in 0:50 which is resistant to high temperature?
@christianpaulroldan4010
@christianpaulroldan4010 2 ай бұрын
Is lto better than lifepo4 on capacity per cell?
@clauswobbe1
@clauswobbe1 3 жыл бұрын
What's the music during the first 2 minutes? It's really powerful!
@headbanger1428
@headbanger1428 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard of LTO. Thanks!
@devilsoffspring5519
@devilsoffspring5519 2 жыл бұрын
Been around for many years, but you don't find them in consumer products because normal li-ion cells have much higher energy density. Apparently, LTO cells are best used in orbital satellites, where they have to endure many thousands of charge-discharge cycles and have an extremely long calendar life.
@Up2Trbl
@Up2Trbl 3 ай бұрын
LTO isn't very common due being rather large & expensive compared to other chemistries. But it's by far one of the safest and most reliable chemistries out there.
@PedatorOhneR
@PedatorOhneR 3 жыл бұрын
Klasse Vergleich
@sevaseva460
@sevaseva460 10 ай бұрын
Thanx somuch 4 education 🔥🔥🔥👍👍👍
@silasmcgee3647
@silasmcgee3647 2 жыл бұрын
This music is incredibly ominous and thinking of many scenarios that it would fit perfectly in
@WunschMacher
@WunschMacher 2 жыл бұрын
Hallo. Explodieren Batterie nur wegen mechanischen Schaden und Überladung? Mein Akku 36V 10S (20 Batterie Li-Ion) ist beim Laden sehr heiß, drinnen gibt es BMS, trotzdem lässt sich das ohne Stop laden, und nach 5 Stunden Laden hat der Akku Spannung 42 V. Ist das ok? Wenn ich ein Stahl Box für Akku bastele, reduziert das Schaden wenn ein Explosion passieren soll? Danke!
@user-wn1ph1bu3f
@user-wn1ph1bu3f 2 жыл бұрын
좋은 정보 배워 갑니다..
@skysurferuk
@skysurferuk Жыл бұрын
An interesting & very practical demonstration of the various battery types, thanks for posting.
@muhsahied
@muhsahied 2 жыл бұрын
hello mr, may i download the video and then upload it on my youtube channel...?
@AntonioGarcia-ly2yg
@AntonioGarcia-ly2yg 2 жыл бұрын
Buen video .las pilas si estan a 2.5v .oh 3.0v se pueden espezar s conectar a cargar i aser la la bateria k kieres aser???
@user-rs1fo2dd9b
@user-rs1fo2dd9b 4 ай бұрын
what is LTO? is T titanium??
@adamp9553
@adamp9553 3 жыл бұрын
Overcharging circuitry is critical with those pouches. It's also necessary to seal properly; never pinch them on the top edge (or anywhere) like Samsung did with Galaxy Note 7.
@danielsatko-
@danielsatko- 3 жыл бұрын
samsung note 7 have bad batteries not bad construction. learn and stop talking shit
@Bemx2k
@Bemx2k 2 жыл бұрын
Great test for the whole of community . Thanks
@engdarfatgalalyelectrical1076
@engdarfatgalalyelectrical1076 2 жыл бұрын
Your information is useful
@DaPlenThing
@DaPlenThing Жыл бұрын
LiPol: it’s either explode or explode Take it or leave it
@luciddrip7274
@luciddrip7274 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely building an LTO bank for my new audio build. Wanted information on the safety of lipo and LiFePo4.
@devilsoffspring5519
@devilsoffspring5519 2 жыл бұрын
LTO cells are supposed to be good for an enormous number of cycles and have an extremely long calendar life. The have lower energy density (store less energy for their size & weight) than either conventional li-ion or LiFeP04 cells.
@unogazzy84
@unogazzy84 Жыл бұрын
Which of these can handle more current and hold more power for a longer lasting usage by weight?
@dom3827
@dom3827 Жыл бұрын
I guess the li po by far
@ifzq0
@ifzq0 5 ай бұрын
This was the best Lipos Batteries test I have seem 😃😃😃👏👏👏👏👏👏
@Mahkwa
@Mahkwa Жыл бұрын
What is your procedure for sudden battery explosion and shrapnel injury to those leaning their heads towards the tests to tie their shoes, or leaning forward to get a tiktok video to post online?
@sriramulamahesh8305
@sriramulamahesh8305 3 жыл бұрын
Lifepo4 how much voltage overcharge
@sixthguardian6914
@sixthguardian6914 2 жыл бұрын
Do you also test euro compliant engines?
@deepakk1347
@deepakk1347 Жыл бұрын
Thank you I know this video only possible a lot of time of you and hard work Thank you again
@anditoba4096
@anditoba4096 2 жыл бұрын
what if the lifepo4 battery is put in a water bath? will they be damaged? or fine?
@GWLPowered
@GWLPowered 2 жыл бұрын
No they won't be fine... Please don’t do that, the LFP cells don’t have the IPx6 Insulated Protection.
@alejandroalzatesanchez
@alejandroalzatesanchez 3 жыл бұрын
Horee much cost an one huge LiFePO4?
@blackturbine
@blackturbine 3 жыл бұрын
Where can i get "safe" 300mah battery that I can discharge continuously with 20A?
@JinAlba85
@JinAlba85 3 жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank für den Test!!
@dom3827
@dom3827 Жыл бұрын
But do they hold the same charge per mass like a lipo? I guess not even close. Do they provide as much max ampere as a li po? i guess not.
@GWLPowered
@GWLPowered Жыл бұрын
You are right, and that's why there are applications where li-po are used and other apps where LFP or LTO are more suitable.
@ABCAndroid
@ABCAndroid Жыл бұрын
Nice test
@trilochansahoo-042
@trilochansahoo-042 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting experiment
@MrJLouw
@MrJLouw 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but nowhere in this video is the voltage of each battery type measured, so how do we know if the LTO was even charged at all?
@Bruce_Bol
@Bruce_Bol Жыл бұрын
Hi GWL and everyone, nice video! I would like to know if the gas coming out of the LiFePo4 battery is toxic? and also if it is flammable and also corrosive? I would like to install a bank of these batteries in a small RV (Motorhome) where we are going to sleep inside, eat and be in different places with extreme temperatures etc. In case of a problem, the safety valve of the prismatic batteries, are they a relief? to release gas in case of bloating. But I don't know if these gases are dangerous, corrosive, toxic, flammable if I light a cigarette or when cooking for example it can explode if a little gas is leaking and we don't see it??? Thanks!
@buggi666
@buggi666 Жыл бұрын
The gases and fumes are extremely toxic! This ist NO steam....the electrolyte in the battery dissolves and releases in certain circumstances HF gas. Furthermore, the gas is flammable as you see. I repeat: inhaling those fumes is very dangerous 😞
@GWLPowered
@GWLPowered Жыл бұрын
Hello, we've covewred this in the following episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6HHf56NqJ2Wpac
@AdRy16Gu
@AdRy16Gu 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@jensschroder8214
@jensschroder8214 8 ай бұрын
and another advantage: LFP cells can operate 3.3 volt IC directly and without a voltage regulator. The voltage of 2.5 to 3.6 volts fits the circuits well. LIPO, on the other hand, have a voltage of up to 4.2 volts, which is too high for 3.3 volt circuits. The necessary voltage regulator dissipates energy into heat.
@user-in3br2qs8x
@user-in3br2qs8x 4 ай бұрын
That doesn´t work. when batteries get older, they also lose voltage. Thus your LFP-cell no longer reaches 3.3 Volt, but e.g. 3.1 volt only for each cell. See? Or even 3 volts only. That is natural aging of batteries in general btw. so that is NOT an advantage, since you cannot use a device with batteries and put no voltage-regulator in it, without thinking over what happens when your battery reaches an age of e.g. 1 year or 5 years. This is when people mean a typical modern LiPo-battery will reach 80% of performance after about 1000 cycles. This means you lose 20% voltage as well. And this means, your battery no longer reaches 4.2 volts but instead (-20% => 10% = 0.42 volts here) you only get your battery to charge until 4.2 - 0.8 = 3.4 volts only. But this is in theory only, since each battery operates differently and normally each device uses multiple cells to reach higher voltages. So assuming you have a 3-cell setup (3 cells á 4.2 volts) = typical 12V-li-Po battery that means instead of reaching 12.6 volts, you now only reach about 12 Volts only. And 12 volts equals 80% of capacity here. At 10 Volts (equals 3.3 volts for each cell) your battery is at nearly 0% load so it´s EMPTY.
@Taner-Aydin
@Taner-Aydin Жыл бұрын
If the Li-ion battery starts to burn, what should it be extinguished with? What type of fire extinguisher should we use?
@GWLPowered
@GWLPowered Жыл бұрын
We use this one: shop.gwl.eu/Special-Products/Promo-lithium-battery-extinguishing-spray.html (in our battery workshop, we have also installed this: shop.gwl.eu/blog/Others/The-SAND-TUB--Get-ready-for-the-fire.html but that's only for pros 😎)
@RennieAsh
@RennieAsh 3 жыл бұрын
Battery : on fire, smoke venting furiously Video : ✅
@evgeniyivanov8552
@evgeniyivanov8552 3 жыл бұрын
hi, very interesting what voltage was used for overcharge
@nvcncs
@nvcncs 3 жыл бұрын
Why though
@kiranranjitkar2748
@kiranranjitkar2748 3 жыл бұрын
Just increase the ampere.
@ramus9
@ramus9 3 жыл бұрын
@@kiranranjitkar2748 That’s not how it works.
@skuula
@skuula 3 жыл бұрын
Can get overcharge fire at about 5.2V/ LiPo cell, maybe less. Guess how I figured that....
@mmcda2player97
@mmcda2player97 3 жыл бұрын
It is not li po it is li ion battery
@misium
@misium 3 жыл бұрын
5:30 mechanical damage to LiFePO4 does not look safe at all. A lot of gas comes out. What is that gas? Is it flammable? Is it breathable?
@GWLPowered
@GWLPowered 3 жыл бұрын
Full test performed by acredited Laboratory in Czech: shop.gwl.eu/Expert-Opinion-Chemical-test-of-LFP-during-breakdown/
@misium
@misium 3 жыл бұрын
@@GWLPowered the test in the link indicates the gases contain hydrogen fluoride (HF) and phosphorus oxyfluoride (POF3). Nasty stuff. Good they don't burn, but don't be in the same room as one of those going off.
@pltspemula
@pltspemula Жыл бұрын
Lifepo baterai bagus. Bagaimana dengan efek limbah ketiga baterai, Master?
@eliasbaez5300
@eliasbaez5300 3 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the song used at 4:00?
@kiranranjitkar2748
@kiranranjitkar2748 3 жыл бұрын
Good Advertisement. Salute to the Team who Risk their life to prove the safety of their products to the Customer.
@samuellourenco1050
@samuellourenco1050 4 жыл бұрын
LiFePO4 cells seems to be safe enough to replace the Li-ION cells inside my power bank. The hard part is to design a new charge controller PCB that fits the same space as the current one.
@legominimovieproductions
@legominimovieproductions 2 жыл бұрын
And find some LiFePo4 cells small enough to fit in a power bank while still providing a useful capacity
@doooofus
@doooofus 2 жыл бұрын
@Murphy deffa or lose half again and opt for LTO lol, thats what im doing, cause id rather have to lug around a huge battery than worry about my 200wh+ behemoth bursting into flames or a cloud of lethal smoke if something out of my control happened. cell level fusing and smart BMSs with extra failsafes are great and all but if something happens out of your control that bypasses those, some total black swan event you could never have seen coming, i dont know man but to me it seems worth it even if my phone will feel like carryign around a VHS tape...
@Comfy_Bed
@Comfy_Bed Жыл бұрын
@@doooofus i think it'll be bigger and heavier than a vhs tape. Just carry around a hand crank charger if you're so worried about your powerbank exploding. 🗿
@matsv201
@matsv201 9 ай бұрын
@@aivarsaar Well you can do a away with a lot of cooling and make prismatic cells, gaining back about 20% of the capacity. Also they lose capacity slower, so after 5-6 years it will start closer together. On top of that, you can use then with both more and less charge, doing 0-100% instead of 20-85% in daily driving, while true, on long drives, the range will be shorter
@platin2148
@platin2148 2 жыл бұрын
For the LiFePo battery what are these fumes and how dangerous are there when inhaled by accident?
@GWLPowered
@GWLPowered 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, this we've covered in another video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6HHf56NqJ2Wpac
@MyszkoServe
@MyszkoServe Жыл бұрын
@GWL what Acid is it on 2:55?
@GWLPowered
@GWLPowered Жыл бұрын
Hello, we've covered this in the following episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6HHf56NqJ2Wpac
@-yeme-
@-yeme- 2 жыл бұрын
how come no short circuit test for the LiPo
@qwertyui90qwertyui90
@qwertyui90qwertyui90 3 жыл бұрын
Can you test Nickel Iron please.
@justsumdad3185
@justsumdad3185 5 ай бұрын
Why was the LFP cell being doused with water at the end? It almost appears that they were trying to keep it from catching fire...
@ovalwingnut
@ovalwingnut 3 жыл бұрын
COoL Video. FrEaKy music.... Thumbs up for the risk to life and limb ;) Cheers from the So.CA.USA
@rickhunt3183
@rickhunt3183 3 жыл бұрын
I've been telling people for years about the dangers of making a battery bank with Lipo batteries and those people looked at me like I was crazy. While LIFePo4 batteries will combust also. The chances of having an unpleasant reaction inside a structure is greatly reduced especially with a battery management system that can monitor the temperature and the individual charge on each battery in an array. The cases that house the electrolyte for LIFePo4 batteries are pretty resilient against physical damage. They are unlikely to be damaged unless someone uses a tomahawk like in the video or uses a wrench and physically short circuits the cells through stupidity. Remember a fuse is your friend, always use one of the correct rating. A breaker may not be so friendly.
@UREALERO
@UREALERO 3 жыл бұрын
ur crazy
@littleme3597
@littleme3597 Жыл бұрын
@@UREALERO Jealous.
@sdqsdq6274
@sdqsdq6274 Жыл бұрын
huh ? isnt lipo use for RC only ? battery bank is li- ion
@fendt126
@fendt126 Жыл бұрын
@@sdqsdq6274 Nope,li-ion means it have liquid electrolyte,li-po have solid electrolyte.There are LFP batteries that can be li-po a the same time
@user2C47
@user2C47 Жыл бұрын
Even with LiFePo4, I'd want my solar farm's batteries to be in a concrete box, away from any combustible structures.
@CriticalTechReviews
@CriticalTechReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Would have been nice to actually hear the batteries exploding.
@ahnafpiash
@ahnafpiash 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the battery testing comparison. Now I can sleep in peace!... Is GWL available in Canada??
@GWLPowered
@GWLPowered 4 жыл бұрын
We are based in Czech (EU), we do ship to Canada.
@geometrikselfelsefesi
@geometrikselfelsefesi 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a great question but wtf this question is so dumb
@ahnafpiash
@ahnafpiash 3 жыл бұрын
@@geometrikselfelsefesi What do you mean dumb? Which part of my question looks dumb to you?
@geometrikselfelsefesi
@geometrikselfelsefesi 3 жыл бұрын
@@ahnafpiash i can sleep in peace! idk but funny question ok sorry
@araigumakiruno
@araigumakiruno 3 жыл бұрын
@@ahnafpiash we all know kids who play baldi wtf that game name are brainless
@rdmd
@rdmd 3 жыл бұрын
is the timer in minutes? For example, 01:39.2 is one minute and 39 seconds or hours, ie, 1 hr and 39 minutes?
@lamarw7757
@lamarw7757 3 жыл бұрын
I figured it out pretty quick.
@bah3698
@bah3698 Жыл бұрын
It's minutes
@bricomecanique5724
@bricomecanique5724 Жыл бұрын
good job
@fxturist8534
@fxturist8534 7 ай бұрын
meanwhile me watching this with my li-po powerbank next to me: 😨
@user-ob5bk7ef6u
@user-ob5bk7ef6u 3 жыл бұрын
А то что у ионистора саморозряд огромный вас не смущает?? А литий у меня год продежал и только немного розрядился.
@vnoygotriz4877
@vnoygotriz4877 2 ай бұрын
thanks
@deusvlad2.083
@deusvlad2.083 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what device you need to get to check a battery is indeed as stated eg// AA battery 2950mah or 2800mah or an AAA battery 1100mah something to test wether or not its telling the truth?
@fat_pigeon
@fat_pigeon Жыл бұрын
It's called a battery analyzer. Basically it charges, discharges, and recharges the battery in sequence, and reports the amount of charge released during the discharge phase.
@deusvlad2.083
@deusvlad2.083 Жыл бұрын
@@fat_pigeon Sounds cool, I need to get one, but don't know a good honest decent brand, do you know of one off Amazon UK?
@jofach
@jofach 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting in what chemestry the lipo was? And also want to know cell voltage/temerature and c rate during charging.
@omgwtflmaololrotfl2368
@omgwtflmaololrotfl2368 3 жыл бұрын
Lithium polymer. They bypassed the safety circuit on the lipo and also the charger. If you use a proper charger it's very safe. Most normal chargers won't be able to do the c rating a lipo will need to go up in flames. My charger is rated at 5amp I can charge a lipo at 5c. I do charge my xpower batteries at 2c no problem
@emersonsrandomvideos248
@emersonsrandomvideos248 3 жыл бұрын
That overcharge LiPo battery just turned into Saturn V rocket exhaust
@user2C47
@user2C47 Жыл бұрын
More like half of a satellite's RCS thruster, but still a rocket.
@jafolost
@jafolost Жыл бұрын
I wonder what makes up the vapor that some of these battery's release as smoke. Not a lot of information about it on KZbin.
@TheTrueBuster
@TheTrueBuster Жыл бұрын
I recently had some basic training on this in my role as a firefighter. Obviously there is a cocktail of toxic chemicals given off there, the most worrying is hydrogen cyanide, as well as some highly flammable gases. Safe to say you do not want to breathe any of that in and any lithium batteries that are punctured or on fire are a serious hazard, especially in a confined space. Btw imo it was pointless these people observing these tests wearing “fire gear” (looked more like my sons dress up clothes though) if they were not wearing any face or eye protection (as others have already stated) but also RPE (aka respiratory protective equipment or breathing apparatus)! Yeah, great professionalism guys 🤦‍♂️
@GWLPowered
@GWLPowered Жыл бұрын
We've covered this topic here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6HHf56NqJ2Wpac
@chrisrichardson8908
@chrisrichardson8908 3 жыл бұрын
What are lto good for and why are not used in solar. I read that they were supposed to be like 97% efficient
@miikkakangas6750
@miikkakangas6750 3 жыл бұрын
Ridiculously expensive, low coulomb efficiency. That means if you put a number of amp hours into it, you don’t get the same number out of it. LFP, Li ion, Lead Acid don’t have that issue. But otherwise LTO is awesome.
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