How to Find Rifle DOPE | Easy Method for Accuracy at Distance for Beginners

[@bc2815]

Height over bore goes from centerline of barrel to center of optic, not just the mount height.

[@evanharnois8686]

Yes! I believe the 1.5 inches is from top of Picatinny to center of the rings if not center of your cross bolts to center of your rings.

[@Drewler]

Yeah, he is probably closer to 2.5 inches than 1.5

[@theLeadGin]

Yes, and for those wondering add 1.22" for an ar15.

[@Leopard_8119]

Why add something at all? Get the measuring stick out (the same tool you use when building your terrace, shed or whatever), and measure from centre of bore to centre of optic. Done@@theLeadGin

[@boejiden1942]

​@@Leopard_8119this is the way

[@unsafe_dB_level]

For those that are concerned about it, I hear it's pretty affordable to have those backdoored electronic safe locks replaced with a traditional mechanical combination lock. Doesn't make what they did right... I'm just saying you can replace the lock without ditching a perfectly good safe.

[@kanejakejimmy]

And then the Feds take a demo saw to your safe. I'm just not sure what people think this will accomplish. I mean these are the people who shoot mothers holding babies. They will get into your safe. And if they can do it while doing maximum damage to your home?? Well they'll get into your safe while rocking a chubby.

[@pablo4yu]

Not a good safe

[@Saltpork305]

​@@pablo4yuThe physical part of Liberty safes are fine. It's just the keypad lock. Replace that.

[@Com-bc6jl]

​@@Saltpork305 It's time for a new safe... The company gave them permission to access HIS property. It does not matter that the lock mechanism is different. They didn't need a court order to open it if they had permission, meaning that by any means necessary they will pry it open anyways. You need a safe that does not grant them this permission over your property. Your property is still your property! Liberty safe does not believe this statement to be true.

[@Valkyrie1911]

@@Com-bc6jl Wrong. They gave them the combo, that's it. If you change the lock, they can't do that. That said, its super easy to cut most safes open.

[@Drewler]

I wouldn’t recommend telling people to select their bullets off of the grain weight. You can have a wide range of BC values at the same grain weight. If they enter in a BC value that is significantly different from what they are shooting it will cause some issues the farther you stretch it out. You’re better off using the BC value on the box, the app even recommends doing that if you don’t see your bullet.

[@Armadilla_1]

100%

[@n00byie]

It also helps to know the bullet type. He was probably working with a BTHP vice the A-MAX as well.

[@elliottd12487]

your sight height info entered should be more like 2.75-3 inches sight height is centerline of your optic to the centerline of the bore. Your larue mount height is only measuring from the centerline of the optic to the top of your rail.

[@Russianmafia10]

I was looking for this comment

[@voltstudios1754]

The only video I’ve watched so far where at the end I feel like I’ve gained understanding as opposed to being more confused. Appreciate it thanks

[@DieselDoktor]

Hey bro, as for the safe, check out manual combination dials, specifically group-1 dials if you want a secure one. They’re pretty simple to install.

[@JohnSavickas]

I've watched hundreds of Long Range Shooting Videos and this is the best NOOB video i've seen. Off the couch you could go out and get the gist of what to do for the ELR day. You guys are definitely entertaining.

[@JacketedHP90]

I consider myself very versed in the world of firearms and tactics but never took time to ask how to do this, realistically pride is to blame. Thank you, sincerely. I appreciate all you all do. I am actaully moving to Tennessee at the beginning of the year and you all have heavily influenced my choice my land purchase to be prepared for either the inevitable or probable future.

[@save2a4all]

Appreciated the John Galt mention and commentary! 👏

[@ControlledPairsGaming]

Packed with value. Keep it up, dudes.

[@x_sable2308]

yooo pairs u should do more door kickers

[@ChadCooper03]

You can use non Hornady bullets in their 4DOF calculator, still free. It has Sierra and Bergers too!

[@ChadCooper03]

@@mrs.vasquezz 😅😅😅

[@MyLonewolf25]

ab? @@mrs.vasquezz

[@John_439]

With the Hornady app you can do a custom load and add your own bc and gr weight. It is far more accurate as Hornady actually gives a massive bump in balistics to their projectiles. If you are doubting it just try it. Pick one of their projectiles and load the same data in for velocity, altitude, temp, etc. Then do a custom load with the same stuff and the same weight and bc as the Hornady projectile you just used.

[@irvin325]

Sight height is center of bore to center of optic

[@jP-nw7nm]

This was absolutely awesome! I know how much effort went I to this so props.

[@bryanfaulkenburg462]

Too bad on the Liberty Safe in the background . I am now saying get ride of it or destroy it but I would cover up their logo with all those firearm company stickers we all have . Don't advertise for them .

[@dirty-civilian]

We vehemently oppose what that company did. But the safe is personally owned and didn’t hurt anybody we will continue to use it.

[@darkhorse0687]

Lost me at liberty safes.

[@BrandonE-ri4km]

Didn’t that happen just two weeks ago?

[@Nottherealalex]

Yeah, everyone that bought them before the scandal should have gotten rid of them immediately right? I bet you don’t own anything that’s even close to the value of the safe let alone worth being stored in one. You’re a bozo 🤡

[@garrettsasome888]

Came here for this comment lol

[@dirty-civilian]

We vehemently oppose what that company did. But the safe is personally owned and didn’t hurt anybody we will continue to use it.

[@threat2demoracy5454]

@dirty-civilian I thought you were trolling! 😂 let me just throw out this expensive safe! What I did when Carhartt mandated the "sheeps milk jab" for their employees I cut the tags off the coats.

[@SRCHN]

Just came across your channel recently, and now subbed for sure. Can’t get enough of y’all’s content. This video was excellent on explaining dope and how to translate that to your optic/range session. Keep up the awesome videos!

[@BlackdogADV]

Thanks! I’ll have to watch this a couple of times to really get it. I built a precision AR10 using a Krieger 20” barrel, shoots .65 MOA pretty constantly with reloads. This project has been a huge learning experience for me.

[@je2848]

​@@mrs.vasquezz you're not getting rate of fire. Being able to put more rounds downrange in a given time frame, even on a DMR, is a valuable asset.

[@je2848]

@@mrs.vasquezz nobody can shoot 3 rounds a second out of a bolt-action rifle, stop lying.

[@CMDR_Shokwave]

Rangefinder and a decent drone (DJI) are super handy for solo work at distance. Those drones can go miles out, so easily cover your needs for live view of target. Very easy to see where your hits are by simply loitering the drone near the target and watching or recording. Having a buddy spotter is even easier.

[@scottrhar]

Thank you so much. I think I understand it now. The key to me , you explained it, then you gave an example using the scope... and the Reticle.

[@rickyv3911]

This video is....DOPE. sry had to.

[@dirty-civilian]

Well played.

[@rickyv3911]

All seriousness..great vid. Thank you

[@LiterateDuck]

I forget some people actually have gun safes and don’t just store their guns in closets and right next to the bed.

[@theKashConnoisseur]

Yeah, must be nice to have more guns than you can carry lol. One day...

[@dhayes1995]

Love this. Very simple and accurate information. I’m currently a firearms instructor and definitely will take some of these tips!

[@charlesludwig9173]

I remember my first 1000 yard match, an NRA governed Long Range Tournament. I got to the firing line with no clue to the sight adjustment needed to hit the target. I shot so many sight in shots from my iron sight M14 that mirage off my barrel made the target disappear. It was an experience that proved I knew nothing about good shooting. Still I stuck with it and began using a ballistics app to understand zeroing to distance needs. Then it was development of marksmanship that became most important, leading me to earn the American High Power Rifleman in Long-Range Award, a US Distinguished Rifleman Badge, and a CMP-USAMU Military Rifle Instructor certification to assist the USAMU deliver Squad Designated Marksman Training. At any rate, I think the author of this video delivers proper instruction for an understanding of a no-wind zero at a known target distance. Learn ranging, and wind/weather effects and you will be set if you go into it having some basic marksmanship training. The best training out there is the USAMUs Small Arms Firing School. It’s a three day event hosted by the CMP annually in late July at Camp Perry, Ohio. The event is directed by champion military shooters who coach individual students at their firing points. It’s great instruction to get shooters off to a good start with it all.

[@charlesl5226]

Great video, god short intro on how to start making your card/book.

[@EmpTy-kf2rq]

A few errors and misses in this video. Sight height is optic height above the bore height. 1.5” is the height sits above the rail.

[@zakrichardson4196]

What are those flashcards you had at the 21:30 mark that shows your radical, data, velocity, and everything.

[@MyLonewolf25]

11:04 your sight height is wrong. its sight height above bore not optic mount height you need to add the height of bore centerline to top pf receiver height too. you need to add 1.22" for an ar-15 im not certain off hand for what most rem 700 based actions are. its part of why your hits were off at range cause your sight height is wrong

[@williamsonnie9935]

The sight height was part of it, probably a bigger part was using the wrong bullet in calculator setup.

[@DuncanBuilds]

Nice atlas shrugged reference.

[@davidwilliams299]

Good job breaking it down for the newbies

[@jamesluke5910]

Great information. Subscribed! Thanks for a great easy to follow video

[@CR67]

Barrel length and barrel manufacturing both affect the velocity, so the chronograph really is eye opening.

[@francoisguindon9411]

Thank you ! for a new shooter this video really helped me ! cheers

[@Hammeroftheirish]

Flat wrong on scope height. Your mount is 1.5" FROM THE RAIL, not from your BORE. You need the height over BORE. Difference between scope height and bore height will depend on the rifle.

[@devilsadvocate2643]

Beginning of the video at 4:40

[@jimyeats]

Who’d you guys use to promote and get the KZbin algorithm pushing your videos? Almost at the instant creation of your channel I had KZbin throwing up recommendations for you. Obviously ya’ll have some background in this or using someone who does, videos were polished and well formatted right off the bat. Edit: not meant in a negative connotation. It just seemed like BOOM, new channel six months ago, instantly getting pushed and running full speed.

[@dirty-civilian]

We’ve been creating media for over 15 years, 10 of which was in this industry. So, we knew what we were doing from the start of this. 🤙

[@jimyeats]

@@dirty-civilianNice. Well done videos.

[@stephenkjeldgaard8979]

And credit to God, good content to good people

[@davidsirmons]

14.99 doesn't round up to 14.1.....it rounds up to 15.

[@kanejakejimmy]

I've teased you kids so much I feel the need to shame myself. Yesterday I took a new build to the range and results were truly demoralizing. I shuffled home all head hung and defeated. And then I discovered I had forgotten to torque my scope rings...

[@dirty-civilian]

Happens to the best of us.

[@evans9748]

That’s crazy, I’ve never seen someone legitimately using a Q rifle like this, with rattle can paint and all.

[@klajoye481]

You should see mine 😂😎🤌🏼

[@torencalduris3114]

Great video. I printed out a dope card with data for m193 & m855 and taped it to my buttstock for reference. I don't shoot long-range very often. You can also use this data to decide what your optimal zero distance should be. I can shoot 0-300 yards without using holds and know my bullet will be within a 6" circle. Very handy.

[@toddjenest3212]

I love the nice camo helmet on your pretty RED dirtbike.

[@harmandeepsingh6598]

Damm you guys will be next to grand Thumb. Your content is outstanding.

[@krazyl111]

Isn't sight height in reference to the bore and not just the mount height?

[@Ninjaman-do5uk]

Center of bore to center of scope.

[@Derekaufman]

Would be cool to see y’all run with Buck Doyle! Solid guy!

[@Cowboys-garage]

Another great video! 🤘🏻🤘🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@dirty-civilian]

Thanks again!

[@briangale6354]

Where did you get the tan book with the reticle layouts?

[@williamsonnie9935]

I was wondering this too.

[@Full.Send.0341]

Sidewinder Concepts just making shit easy

[@Eric-vx1od]

A few things. Yes, Ive replaced the digital locks on my liberty safes. Did so before their mess. I also called them to voice my displeasure. Bigger comment was my happiness hearing an altas shrugged reference! Well done, men. If there is an author ever better equipped to predict our current society, Rand is the one. My wife grows weary of my referencing it. Trump may be my pirate

[@TRAPSQUAD187]

14:11 can’t wait for my silver a bit of gold beans & bullets ready my the lord be with you all we are all going to be tested

[@JamesWilliams-sf1vh]

The example looks like a 6.5 Grendel, the casings on the side are longer. Maybe it's just me, good information at any rate.

[@druxfilms]

Dude the timing. I just got a vortex strike eagle 1-8 in the mail at the time you posted the video 😅

[@dirty-civilian]

We planned that. ;)

[@evanharnois8686]

I just had to send 2 strike eagle 1 to 8FFP back to vortex. Red dots somewhere in between the glass and illumination issues.

[@evanharnois8686]

@@mrs.vasquezz was yours because of the dots on glass when illuminated? One of them also is so bad it washed out all of the numbers in the holds when it was illuminated.

[@ModDeuce]

Just sold my NODs to get into Long-Range Shooting. Kinda pointless to have all of that $ just sitting in the safe. Great video!

[@riley3760]

Good to hear. I don’t have either but long range is on my list before NODs. Good luck!

[@DKanon]

Thanks for doing this video. I found the video interesting, highly informative, and useful. I do want to ask where you got the information for the statement you made that "more American dollars were printed in the last two years than it had ever been printed in the history of time." If true, the statement does seem to answer the question about who caused inflation. I went and checked the data from the Bureau of Engraving and Printing, and that statement doesn't seem to be correct. I checked each denomination. I checked yearly and total production. Unfortunately, I can't find any true instance to support the "ever in time," claim, or for any two years, nor for a single year. There actually seem to be a number of years in the last 30 years where more dollars have been printed.

[@boejiden1942]

Dope video, bruh.

[@rvpatriots6354]

Are you going to sell your liberty safe?

[@dirty-civilian]

It’s still a good safe, so no. But how they bent the knee is disgusting.

[@techti8792]

​@@dirty-civilian the modern day Pay-triots bend the knee for the suppressors though. And everything else. Everyone bending knees together. Lol. That's why I'm developing kneepads with springs on them so pay-triots can do rapid knee taps.

[@hotstick10]

Got a video of you painting the Q? Looks great.

[@PoliticallyInsensitive]

Gravity is a constant and can be accounted for pretty actually as long as you have good data regarding muzzle velocity. Most manufacturers use a 24" test barrel so depending on caliber just subtract 50fps per inch shorter and you should be close enough to get started. Wind is the hard part.

[@cro-cro]

I swear on my life... Check your premises... Great video as always.

[@firstimeshooter6590]

Took me a week to get a good zero. New rifle, new caliber, finding what ammo it likes, then trying to get a zero finding out warden wasn’t a good idea so had to re zero in the heat😅

[@ifell3]

Bullet coefficientcey will also help as muffle velocity is only as good at the end of the muzzle 😅

[@theLeadGin]

Bit of incorrect info in this one, also the decimal being thrown around is going to confuse new people.

[@vadimfrey1]

do you have to rebuild/correct your dope card once you get to a new lot of the same ammo?

[@918Mitchell]

When in doubt, use Kentucky Windage

[@iSAAConrad]

Why didn’t you use 4DOF?

[@arash1934]

I’m gonna go HAM in tarkov with this information. They’ll never know what hit’em

[@YouveBeenMiddled]

*STOP using calculators!* These are going to get you ballpark estimates. DOPE is actual data from _each_ rifle's zero, with _each_ load, at various distances. Use a big sheet of butcher paper/cardboard/whatever and put an aiming point at the top. Now shoot that target at distance *making no adjustments to your zero* and mark your impacts. You've just recorded actual dope for your rifle/zero. TAPE that info to your stock. Now build a DOPE book, and find your _adjustments_ for heat/cold/density-altitude.

[@mattrust348]

Lol, no. Calculators are dead on if you're using them correctly.

[@biggwigg338]

I like yalls videos and all of the great info you share, but you have some inconsistencies in this video. Fudging your velocity is about as bad as a ball park zero. A ballpark BC is also not good. That really becomes apparent beyond 600 yards. I found out the hard way at a competition lol. Horandy lies about their BC. Applied ballistics is a good source to get 3rd party measured BCs but you have to pay for the info. Find a buddy or someone at the range with a Kestrel ballistic computer and they will likely have the entire AP library on their unit ;) Also, scope/sight height is from center of scope to center of bore; not center of scope to top of receiver. Inside 600 yards the way you set this up will work okay, but you will have to correct those errors to be precise at further distances especially on small targets. 🤙

[@grumpygruntx]

@dirty-civilian where did you get the book with the Tremor reticle info?

[@tripplej6053]

Thank you for this.

[@fishbone470]

Great Vid. thanks :)

[@ShepherdOfTheSilkies]

Theirs multiple other calcs out there that can do this besides Hornadys. I use SBC light to get started

[@sickboy4029]

Cody Wilson is the post modern Ragnar Danneskjold.

[@ryko79]

Ayn Rand reference(s). She would have fault with your reference to Galt. You should finish the book.

[@hampboogie]

Thought you dial for distance and hold for wind? Keep it simple?

[@MikeJones-vb1me]

How crazy does it make you that your goggle strap was twisted in that shot?

[@derekpalmer_creativemedia]

Great video so far, mic sounds a little harsh with static compared to usual.

[@NicholasJonesCreative]

Yeah, was trying some different mic positioning options. Thanks for the feedback!

[@nathan-ls8yw]

@@NicholasJonesCreative what backpack is that in the intro btw?

[@NicholasJonesCreative]

@@nathan-ls8yw mystery ranch urban assault.

[@nathan-ls8yw]

the 24 or the 18? (sorry for the questions, just wanna get on myself)@@NicholasJonesCreative

[@NicholasJonesCreative]

@@nathan-ls8yw I’m going to guess the 24. I can’t remember for sure.

[@kerrybridges4971]

I have everything set for mrads but when I go to the dope card it's changed to moa. How can I retain the mead setting?

[@codyrobbins2315]

Modern day John Galt would be you my friend

[@Barnes-ml9wg]

Lmao at all the dudes crying about his safe...send him some money for a new one.

[@Wagnersuperior]

lol @ the liberty gunsafe in the beginning.

[@ParkerMotorWorks]

Got to get this video to 1 mil views so they can buy a new safe

[@dirty-civilian]

😂 Won’t turn that down.

[@adamszach4983]

The only problem is, the scope height is mesoured from center of the action to center of the glass

[@samuelbusse2028]

First step - find a range over 100 yards

[@alexanderstark2351]

Hey great video, which plbipod are you using?

[@toddjenest3212]

My biggest problem is that I have WAY too many different kinds of ammo in various calibers.

[@joejoeseesingtons]

Good info

[@ryanfisk1809]

What is that quick book with the reticle In it?

[@daytonbarnett5316]

does anyone know what is the dope manual that you're referencing? thank you for the knowledge transfer

[@ClarenceJBoddicker1987]

Liberty safe?

[@TheEngineerShooter]

It's just basic projectile motion :)

[@armenianesh818]

I haven't read 'Atlas Shrugged,' but based on that description the modern day Ragnar Danneskjöld is Michael Malice.

[@dirty-civilian]

Ehh, I can see that but it's a stretch. Audible that and buy a paper copy too.

[@cainmarko335]

Do they have an offline on that even if your not in online we can save it

[@adamjohnson6137]

Love the video! Just the info I needed, thank you!

[@steelandsanderoutdoors2617]

So if your scope is in mils, should you range it for meters versus yards? I have my first rifle scope in mils, instead of minutes of angle.

[@dougearl742]

Ryan Cleckner’s Book “Long Range Shooting Handbook” explains this well. Mils is a unit of angular measurement, not length like inches. You can zero your gun/scope at 100 yards and use mils. Most competition shooters are set up that way. Mils are not metric. It can be a little confusing since we are used to inches and centimeters and we normally don’t measure things by angle. .1 mil is .36” at 100 yards.

[@steelandsanderoutdoors2617]

@@dougearl742 awesome thank you, I've had that book in my wishlist for a while now. I guess I need to just pull the trigger and get it already 🙃.

[@StephenShreds]

Walter sobchack scope dope

[@toddhulen7740]

Which ballistic app has the best factory load ammo library?

[@davidfrydvm4960]

Love your videos, but you need to practice your decimal points…

[@xxNickxx23xx]

Gonna need to replace that safe soon bud...

[@basrutten641]

Dope @ “800 meters” you were set to 780 meters instead of 800

[@jdog5599]

Teaching us how to use a phone? Thanks