How to find the property line of any home! (Must watch!)

[@YakMotley]

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[@jeffconley819]

There’s is a way easy way to fix the fence problem. The homeowner can move the fence back to where it was…….at the counties expense. Then the homeowner can sell the property to the county for whatever he thinks he needs. Say 30 k would be a fair price. Then everybody is happy

[@philipgreen1440]

Sometimes fences make bad neighbors.

[@coppertone711]

This utility company issue seems to be a common problem. My front pin was in the main utility box area for the water company. Every time the box is dug by a backhoe the pin moves. The water meter was nowhere to be found on property possession day. The water meter was in the neighbor's yard. Once again, the utility pushed the pin, and the water meter was really in my property. Thank you for showing this. We did find original build pins to the neighborhood on three corners marked as such This left me thinking one was removed maybe.

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[@rickagulia3767]

I have a friend who bought his first house, and it needed a new fence which was made of wood. So he wanted to but up a wall so he went to the neighbors and told them he wanted to put up a wall and all he wanted was the cost of half the price of a wooden fence and he would pay for the rest. They all declined so he told them that he would do a survey and set the wall back so it was only on his property. It turns out everyone had encroach on his property by many feet . So the neighbors had to move sheds that had foundations and one had to remove pool decking. Just because they said no to the fair offer he made.

[@nyecore]

I don’t think that was a fair offer. Some people don’t have the money to shovel out because a neighbor wants a fence. He was being petty and not very neighborly at all. He felt like he had a right to other people’s money to accomplish his goals.

[@jeanetteallan9227]

@@nyecore, he’s only asking for half the price of a wood fence and offering to pay the FULL difference to upgrade to an actual wall (probably cinderblock or brick). By all involved neighbors declining on sharing costs, he was perfectly within his rights to get a survey to ensure whatever he put up would be within his lot lines. Surprise, surprise… neighbors on every side had encroached onto his legally owned property. He didn’t start out to reclaim his lost land, if neighbors had agreed to sharing a small portion of the cost (and they probably could have asked for a payment plan if needed) he might not have run a survey and put up a much more permanent wall with the current boundaries.

[@DCJNewsMedia]

When you own it, and others have stolen its usage for themselves, they should have to pay up or lose it. Or both. Just factual. They didn't do a survey so they lost what was never theirs to start with. In time past this was well understood. But with some people trying to use new words and new definitions it causes people to think things are true that are not. Fortunately I am a old man and I also listened to my parents and they listened to their parents and so forth and I talked to men who were 20 to 50 years older than I. It was truth as factual and not opinion. You are certainly entitled to your opinion up and until the facts show up and then you win or lose by the facts and truth in a Constitutional Republic which we are. Not a democracy as often mis stated . Remember to the republic for which it stands. .in the national pledge of aliedgeence. I am not here to create a issue but to state facts only. ​@nyecore

[@nyecore]

@@DCJNewsMedia not everyone has this understanding. I live in a city where there is mostly track homes and the developers typically build walls and fences separating the homes. It’s still inconsiderate of those who may not have expendable income to give a neighbor just because they feel like it. Yes it’s the truth but it’s still petty. People have a right to be petty if they want to but it doesn’t change the fact that it is petty. He did it because he didn’t get his way.

[@nyecore]

@@jeanetteallan9227 I understand but did he take into consideration that they may not have had the money? Some people are struggling to make ends meet. Yes he was legally in the right to do so but it doesn’t change the fact that he was being petty because other people didn’t have the funds. Maybe it’s a cultural difference I don’t understand. I don’t understand how someone can feel entitled to give someone else a bill so they can have a fence. It’s weird, petty and intrusive in my opinion.

[@lizzieb6311]

Thank you! I’m a Floridian who intentionally left a 3 ft wide space between my new fence and my neighbors existing fence line in order to create a space wide enough to push my lawn mower between the fences in order to care for the utility easement that runs BEHIND my back fence (it’s unbuildable, but I need to keep it mowed and accessible for the Electric Company.) That said, next door neighbor came along, while I was out of the country and put up new fence flush next to mine…encroaching on the 3’ path of my property I intentionally left clear. When I got home I told him the fence had to come down because it was not only on my property but it blocked access to my utility easement. Well, he LOST HIS MIND! The Sheriff had to be called he was so angry. I told him he should raise hell with fence company for using my fence as the boundary lines rather than taking the time to look at the survey or the pins - which BTW still had red ribbons on them from when MY fence people surveyed my property. What a mess. He was pissed but I wasn’t wrong.

[@omargarcia5863]

Good job, you should have kept double fence. Ha, ha, ha.

[@lizzieb6311]

@@omargarcia5863 😂haha..yeah

[@bud5084]

I had a neighbor who planted small trees across the property line on my side. I told him and had already showed him the property line. He said he wasn't moving them. I said that's alright I have a front end loader I'll move them. He moved them. The realtor caused this problem, because they didn't have much yard. She called me about them putting things on my property and I said no. She made her side of the conversation sound like I said it would be okay. I repeated again, No. Apparently she told them it would be okay to make the sale. I didn't budge, every time he put stuff on my land and left it I made him move it.

[@lizzieb6311]

@@bud5084 I don’t understand the mindset of those who insist upon encroaching on others property - knowing full well that you’ve made them aware of the property line. Very arrogant. Sounds like you were far kinder to them than they deserved. Realtors have no business meddling with neighbors.

[@lisalee2885]

I totally understand your 3ft path...I usually suggest when doing that path to remove grass,lay weed barrier and throw rocks or pebbles as the path...very low maintenance 👍 Plus if ever a neighbor puts up fence on property line you don't have them weed walking the heck out of your fencing material 😁👍 You were so smart for what you did though.

[@cheesegrits196]

Really good info Jack! Worst thing any property owner can do is let trees grow in their fence line.

[@geraldstone8396]

Get a Registered Land Surveyor. Unless you have a Registered Land Surveyor nothing you do yourself will hold up in court.

[@stevelopez372]

Yup, your best guess isn’t worth beans in court, because you will end up in court over an inch of property. Lol.

[@commonsense6967]

Very true.

[@resurrectionsunday4164]

Ugh I have been trying to get one for over a year and haven’t even gotten a single call back. One youtuber said in his area they’re back logged 3 years. Good grief !

[@dawhike]

This is so obvious. Jeeez!

[@ArmyBrat1974]

I think this was clear in the video…

[@monaestewart3602]

In FL, a few days ago(today is 3.30.24), Gov DeSantis signed a bill AGAINST Squatters. The Police, can Now escort/evict, Day 1. No court dates. Kudos to the Governor.

[@dalehood1846]

Congratulations. Common sense is FINALLY making a comeback.

[@JohnJohn-wr1jo]

It's nice to see Ron finally focusing on his job for a change.

[@bud5084]

Should have never been labeled squatters, they are trespassers!!

[@JamieM470]

@@bud5084 Exactly! Squatters settle on unclaimed wilderness/frontier property and build their own home there. People who steal an existing home from its rightful owner are trespassers and thieves.

[@mikeclarke3005]

Smith and Wesson eviction services is who I use to evict

[@oc6huki]

I’m a Land Surveyor who was pleasantly surprised by this content. I will add that in most states the establishment and retracing of boundaries by non-licensed individuals constitutes unlicensed practice. It’s fine to gather information and be informed, but please refrain from marking neighbor’s corners or “informing” them about the location of property boundaries.

[@commonsense6967]

Excellent advice.

[@timsteinkamp2245]

I agree, put in the stakes and give the neighbors a few months to check it out. Just tell them the surveyor that did it if there is a problem. So many of these surveys are now on line in the County you live and some surveys go back hundreds of years.

[@darlenecarter7859]

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[@scottsatterthwaite4073]

Nonsense. There is no law that says someone can't mark where they believe a boundary corner to be. They can't try to publish or enforce that location unless there is a recent survey that supports the claim. In most cases, licensing requirements are intended to protect the trades and do little to protect the public.

[@CharlieTheCarpenter]

I’m a licensed carpenter but I wouldn’t tell someone not to build their own deck. 😂

[@brendalakios9491]

Our current property had a big indent in the back. We hired a surveyor and he found two previous stakes which our back neighbor covered up. This guy built his back fence twenty five feet into our back yard. And the east guy built his fence five feet into our yard. Our lot is 147' by 301". So, armed with a legal, certified survey we reclaimed our property. The two other owners could only watch us tear down their wood fences and my husband put up 448 feet of 6' tall chain-link, with top rail and bottom tension wire. We felt a lot better really. The back guy was fuming and eventually sold his home. The guy on the east became friends with us. He had admitted that he put his fence on our land. The survey cost us $850. Since we paid cash for our home here in Southern California we were not required to get a survey. But I am glad we did. He gave us a big discount as he was a Vietnam vet, and so is my husband.

[@hankclingingsmith8707]

Happen all the time

[@sandizee]

We’re having a dispute with a neighbor (they’ve lived in the property 1/3 of the time that we’ve been here) that’s complaining about some bushes that she planted over onto our side of the property line of a strip of land that runs between the two houses (she’s mad about that she paid for them -maintained over the whole time etc etc & now she’ll have to cut them way back or removed altogether. mind you, they are mostly average ‘filler’ type plants(1 bird of paradise, hibiscus & literally random green bushes that are just green growth). They’ve known for a long time that we want to extend (from a block wall that separates the backyards, actually on all 3 sides) the wall via a wood fence from our backyard gate to where our garage front is at the driveway edge. Due to a lot of rampant crime we want the added protection of a fence. This ‘connected’ area of dirt & all of her plants goes all along that area. Most of what she planted, if the property line as it appears is correct, (going only by the block wall etc) then she’s planted the majority of all of that to at least 6-8” over onto our side. She (early on soon after moving in) admitted to being a litigious person (yeah, great, if only I was more property savvy at the time & had a spidey sense about her). She said because she was ‘allowed’ to put plants in that area (we NEVER told her go ahead wherever even onto OUR SIDE, Nope) she is threatening lawsuit and has txted that if we want to put up a fence put it A FOOT towards further over onto OUR property line! I refuse to do that so I can see that we are going to have to get a survey. Property is in L.A. County So Cal. IMO The laws are too crazy re too many grey areas of property delineations and ie tree easements & so much more. Just like squatters rights is an INSANE issue. All of this crap is aiding R/E attorneys to make massive amounts of money off of the backs of homeowners just wanting what’s fair re the property that is likely their biggest investment of anything. The avg attorney cost I’ve researched is $15,000. retainer & $3-400.00 hourly fee. And I was told that retainer amount will likely get used up VERY quickly. Oh, and she’s got so much growth in her backyard as well that the wall extension we had built on TOP of the block wall for MUCH NEEDED PRIVACY (they were/are ALWAYS looking over the wall-orig built at sub standard height-or one of them would always come out to their backyard if any one of us were in our backyard bbqing or moving stuff around, anything!) Now her trees are growing ONTO & OVER the wooden fence extension we put up as well as our garden tool shed. And I have to be nervous about trimming all of that overgrowth to not damage any of them or I CAN BE LIABLE if she insists that we over trimmed/etc. This is such Bullsh*t!

[@fatmanoutdoors]

"Good fences make good neighbors." - That means "good" in all respects, including the legal property line evaluation. Get it right the first time and there should be no disputes.

[@Jamesg33]

The best time to talk with your neighbor about where they understand the property line to be is the very first time you meet. Anytime after that it's an issue.

[@LaylaDSmith]

Before you buy is the best time. Go knock on the door.

[@Jamesg33]

I completely agree. That would also be the first time you speak with them!

[@angelartistic3056]

Best answer!

[@jaslady22]

A neighbor from hell, that owns a chainsaw, can ruin 20 yrs. of tree growth, you can never get back! When he believes he has the right to cut what he thinks is his side, though you own that other side too, which he wasn't aware of? Danger zone! My survey in hand and a tape measure proves my point! Had to hand the tape to the Code enforcement officer, and asked, if he knew how to read one? The guy never got a permit to erect a shed, he'd NEVER be allowed to place one on the side of his property! He had 10 days to remove it, after it was there for 3 years! He never should have cut down my trees!

[@bud5084]

Have it established before you buy

[@pootieputin2771]

Get a survey even if you aren't required to.

[@stargazer7644]

I would've loved to, but the surveyor wanted over $4000 to verify 4 already marked corners. Seriously?

[@MJGMA]

We bought a house and the house next-door was vacant for several years then 3 years later someone bought it. She came over and said a concrete retainer wall (was there when we bought it) our block of houses were built into a hillside was on her property. Well she got a survey done and the walkway of her house was actually on our property by 3 feet and a fence was 5ft on our property lol. She is a karen. We removed her walkway and a fence she put up. She tried taking us to court and the judge said its their property. If she wasn't a karen we would of let everything as is BUT she lost so much face in this small town lol

[@GreenCanvasInteriorscape]

Without truth her fafo came true

[@MJGMA]

@GreenCanvasInteriorscape so true she came knocking on my door at 7am and was witchy about it. I told her to survey it, hahahah, she ate a lot cost and fafo the hard way.

[@bathtubs]

My neighbor and I needed a fence and she offered to get it done. Her tree grew so big, it broke part of it down. We agreed to let her put the fence around her tree. She just went into a Sr. home. I was starting to worry about any possible new owners claiming our land. You al have eased my mind. Thank you. I love my dog and need a fence, but this may all I have to leave my kids.

[@paulspratt1348]

An easement is not ownership its permission to enter to service equipment.

[@alanaldpal950]

There are different types of easements with different purposes

[@LaylaDSmith]

Or to allow drainage or to install utilities or or or... Depends on the easement.

[@ginj5375]

Till someone moves in and takes the easement as their property and land locks you from getting to your lower 40 acres.

[@LaylaDSmith]

@@ginj5375 sounds like it's time to petition the jurisdiction to get someones fence taken down...... or to take them to court over it.

[@MReadLS]

I’m a surveyor, I wish all my clients were this knowledgeable and understood the value of the survey.

[@aazv23]

Are you located in Florida? Do you serve Central Florida? If so, please share your contact info. Thanks

[@MReadLS]

@@aazv23. I’m in NY.

[@ncfishboy]

Here in NC I always advise buyers to get a survey. Title insurance doesn't cover certain things if you didn't get a survey and it heads off a lot of issues that could come up later on. Our state does not require anyone to get survey for loans.

[@womanatthewheel]

I used to do surveying and can tell you this is not the way to determine your property lines. Power poles, sidewalks, and other infrastructure are ZERO proof of property lines. Unless you are a surveyor, you need to hire a licensed surveyor to complete a boundary survey to locate property lines. Don't ever assume that metal pins you find are property corners, they may also be offsets or just junk. And that bank survey? It is NOT a boundary survey, it is an Improvement Location Certificate. Very important. Bank surveys ONLY show encroachments onto a property, they DO NOT establish the location of property lines. You can't cheap out on boundary line disputes.

[@tharais]

Yep. When he said "not on your property in an easment or something" I was horrified. Easements are on your property. Just someone else,, usually a public entity, has easement rights that you cannot interfere with. Sidewalks are commonly this way in California suburbs. City ROW but you are owner. So when there are maintenance or other issues, the city says it's your problem. But they also force you to do the work and pay for it.

[@womanatthewheel]

@@tharaisFor sure. What possesses people who have zero clue to try and give advice with major legal ramifications out the wazoo? Oh my gosh...

[@TheREALJosephTurner]

That's why it's called an easement- it's an easement onto your property. If it was city-owned, then the city would be responsible to mow it. For example, my property has a strip of grass between the sidewalk and the street. Water taps (water meters) are located in this strip of grass. If there's a water issue, the city can dig it up to repair it, but I have to mow it. Sixty or seventy years ago, people planted trees in these strips- which are big trees now. I am responsible for those trees. If they rot, I have to take them down- the city won't. If they fall on the neighbor's car, I'd get sued, not the city.

[@adrianakessler384]

True-we have a telephone pole in middle of ours, front and back.

[@lllmillll]

Prettty lame that when you buy and pay taxes that you also have to pay someone 1000 or more to tell you where your property lines are .. ffs

[@policy8analyst]

There are actually people who claim land that is NOT theirs, remove official survey markers, put up fences 2 feet outside of their property line and even yelled at me for walking on an 18 foot public easement once.

[@Michigan_HoseHead]

Very good advice. I bought 10 acres in Michigan, before purchasing I had a corner stake survey done. Walked the property to see what I was buying. After purchase went back to survey company and bought a side line survey. stakes every 300 feet. Survey Company asked me "What happened? Meet your new neighbor? Good neighbor to north was using old fence line as a boundary marker. It was south of line by about 2 feet. Bad neighbor to south had no clue where property line was so was landscaping his backyard into my property as well as using about 3 acres of my property by making trais and bridges.

[@gaiustacitus4242]

Yes, sometimes the stakes get moved...or even removed.

[@robertm5969]

Our neighbor claimed we weren't mowing all of our yard, so I gave her the benefit of the doubt and mowed until I hired a surveyor. It ended up being halfway between where we both thought, but I discovered we had a lot more land behind us than we originally thought. Always important to get a survey before you build fences or sheds.

[@kennethbroadwell653]

Advice. Obtain copy of survey of record which is filed in local governing body records. Many have GIS sites that have electronic copies available online. Study survey document and locate property corners (usually iron pins or rebar rods driven into the ground). I drive my own rebar next to that and put a piece of pvc pipe over it for clear visibility for future reference. I own a 300’ tape and a metal detector to aid in my search for corners. It is good if you make your neighbor aware of what you are doing so they don’t come after you and remove the markings. Setback requirements are ordinanced by local governing body.

[@miketavenermedia7853]

Not every state requires surveys to be recorded. Florida is one that does not. GIS systems are wrong way more than you would think.

[@kennethbroadwell653]

@@miketavenermedia7853 FYI Wake County (Raleigh, NC) has a gis site that has links to digital copies of the survey map. Carteret County (Morehead City, NC) has similar capability. Some of the other areas in the country I’ve attempted to find documents are not so friendly.

[@larrykluckoutdoors8227]

GIS maps may not be right. The survey at our local cemetery was off by 23 feet, 116 years ago the survey crew messed up

[@JaySy]

So I bought my property in 2016 and I live in Missouri and no survey was required for my loan or bank. The house, built in 1984, sets off to the left of center a little bit. The driveway entry is shared between myself and my neighbor to the right. The driveways are mostly shared until you get to the crest of the hill. My driveway goes all the way back to the garage, built in 1920, that is at the back of the property. In 2017 or 2018, I had a survey done as I was starting to plan for a fence and such. It was discovered that the back of my garage that is at the back of my property is right against the alley easement, however, the right side of the garage is between 1 and 2 feet on the neighbors property. I was good friends with the neighbor so it wasn't and still isn't a big deal. I did ask the surveyor and my attorney about this circumstance and what I found is that since the garage is the oldest structure on both lots, the neighbor's house was built in the 1924ish, and the split in the driveway are both off by approximately the same amount, the developers of my property had intended for the property line to be the right edge of the garage and therefore if it ever did make it to court, the judge would more than likely state that the garage is my property fully and could potentially rewrite the description to say that. Luckily I get along great with my old neighbors. When they sold the house last year, they had the real estate agent put in a disclosure about the shared driveway and the garage. I will do the same if I sell.

[@ragingbull1267]

I had an old farmhouse built in 1925, the garage was on the easement and property lines ( and my house was the original house to the farmland ) had a dispute with a neighbor across the easement road ( a rental ) that his tenants were blocking my driveway so he tried to have the city make me tear the garage down but couldnt because it was grandfathered in so if I ever did tear it down I had to move it 15 feet off the lines ( wasnt happening ) then the police started ticketing the renters for blocking access on the easement for emergency vehicles so then the landlord was threatening to put up a fence claiming he could revoke the easement and block my only access to my house, long story short, he did a full on survey and found out that I actually owned ALL of the easement area and if he wanted it revoked ( and I was all for it ) that it would be right up to the side of his house blocking every access to the garage, porch...ect and the house would need to be razed because of the setback rules as he wasnt grandfathered since the house was newer... never seen a guy do the walk of shame after so many threats and harassment to my family.

[@pamelawoodall5891]

Learn sentence structure !

[@LeroyPatty]

@@ragingbull1267

[@LeroyPatty]

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[@ZachComa]

I work with Civil Engineers and Surveyors. I make a lot of the legal plats for land acquisitions when required either for new proposed ROW or proposed Temp or Perm Easements for civil construction of varying types. On most projects, there will be at least one or two or seven changes to existing properties and ROW as undiscovered and conflicting plats and documents make their way through the record and legal system. It's a mess. Surveyors are usually correct with their calculations and measurements (usually), but they're only as good as the information they have to work with. Nothing is 100%.

[@Pw6872]

I'm gonna tell you all (notice I didn't use "y'all") what the number one issue with residential property lines is: shrubbery/tree plantings. It is a given that builders plant trees, etc. right inside a given property's line to make the parcel look more expansive. Then 5-15 years later the arbor vitaes, pine trees, etc. are now growing over the neighbor's property line and encroaching their space. Where I live, the city allows me to cut anything over my line even if the planting then dies. I haven't done this because I would like to live in harmony with my neighbors. But it irks the hell out of me that people regularly ignore the fact that their trees and shrubs are going to expand greatly and later become an issue with their neighbors. Plant responsibly and account for diameter expansion.

[@tommyg2966]

I'm a surveyor, so I pull the plat and go find the pins ...

[@dasmac3179]

This was a very informative video that shows the importance of permits, surveys, attorneys and real estate law. Thanks😊

[@bud5084]

Anytime you buy property you need it surveyed and get title insurance

[@trinaroe5132]

Fence encumbrances generally do not cause mortgage problems. The fence between my house and the one to the west is over the property line. It was so noted on the mortgage survey and no problem getting a mortgage. Unless you looked the mortgage survey up you wouldn’t know that. The fence is from at least the 1940’s or earlier. The house changed hands twice since then. What WILL cause mortgage problems is if a building (house or garage, not sure about a shed) is over the property line.

[@cherylmcwilliams7238]

I always get a survey to be safe. I had a house that belong to my husband's grandparents and was built in 1959. Neighbors weren't sure where the property line over the years and changes of hands. Once I got the survey, 2 of the neighbors had to remove trees and shrubs. My yard was much larger than we thought!

[@kurtisstutzman7056]

As an ex surveyor, and life- long Florida resident, always hire a land surveyor...!!!

[@curtw8827]

After getting my record survey, I went out and found the buried iron rods, I drove 2" PVC around them up to finished grade and I maintain them to be visible.

[@kickbacktoo]

I have a neighborhood association that is trying to say because the neighbor mows my easement is his property. So glad that you're saying that they can't try to take your property using that excuse. The neighbors was trying to actually wall off acess to the side of my house with a privacy fence. That's where my that's where my electrical my fuse box is over there and the meters etc. He wanted to make it so I couldn't even go over there to paint the side of my house. Also I was mowing my easement every time I mow the rest of the yard. He was trying to claim same thing on the other side of his house to the neighbor on that side too. He and his wife harrass anybody like the utility workers that need to be in there, he will call their office or really messes with the workers and super hostile. They kept insisting that I had to get a survey. When I bought the house they did a survey. It clearly shows the 6 ft easement on that side of the house. They called the cops, I showed them the survey and the police said "Oh, that could be anything ". So I said to the officers that all the homes in the area have easements. (I think it's partly because of the danger of fire spreading to other houses but I'm not sure).

[@matthewholzinger1042]

Where i live you need a survey.... 1 to sell your house 2 to buy a house 3 to install a fence 4 probably some other things too.

[@RobertMurray-b1e]

A home I used to own had a power pole right on the line with the corner marker less than a foot behind it. When I put up a fence, because of the pole leaning towards my neighbors, I asked if I could encroach on their property to put the corner posts. They had no problem with it. The marker was still visible 6 inches inside my fence and mine and the neighbors house have sold many times over the past few years.

[@timsteinkamp2245]

Power poles seem to be good and reliable line markers. Keep in mind the cross members on the pole should be in the right of way and not hanging over private property.

[@mikeclarke3005]

In some areas if fence is built wrong but there after a certain amount of time the fence becomes the new property line. so best to know not assume.

[@dennisnelson7777]

This was very enlightening...Thanks for doing all this nitty gritty work for us...

[@trex2092]

Rule of thumb: Always set YOUR fence 1 foot inside your survey boundary. The goob on the other side can pack sand and NOT connect to YOUR fence.

[@tharais]

And, not attach, alter, paint or even argue with you about materials, construction, height, etc. without your written permission to do so. As long as you complied with local and any HOA fence ordinances of course. Well actually, the property behind me is in an HOA and I am not. The HOA CC&Rs say that all fences shall be built on the property lines and shared between adjoining properties. Good luck with that. This doesn't mean you have to be a dick about it. It just means it's your property and you retain control.

[@bluesnites]

If you set the fence inside your property boundary and then fail to maintain your property outside of the fence, your neighbor may possibly be able to claim ownership of that set back you provided them.

[@tharais]

@@bluesnites Only if they pay the property taxes. Adverse possession laws vary from state to state. But what you propose is far outside of any I am aware of.

[@jaslady22]

@@tharais Sounds crazy, but it does state that in by-laws! So, not so crazy!

[@tharais]

@@jaslady22 CC&Rs cannot override state laws related to property ownership.

[@MikeBush-zy6gh]

Have you guys ever,ever heard of a survey company? They do this for a living and will prevent fights with your neighbors. Wow, what a novel idea!!!

[@sbffsbrarbrr]

Right? Sure, if you are just browsing to see if you are interested in the property, do your own thing. But if you are actually planning on purchasing a home, not getting a survey is just asking for trouble down the road.

[@ShellSellars-Smith]

Here in GA surveys are not required in financing. Lenders were starting to get sued by owners for bad surveys, so they decided not to require them. I always suggest buyers get their own survey specially if they want to add a fence.

[@Nttt739]

Survey,survey,survey and file it at the court house. Pin it flag it stamp it. Plus, the surveys rule. If the attoney in jurisdiction doesnt like it, tough nuggies. You can also get an attorney and , yes jurisdiction can be taken to court.

[@scottsatterthwaite4073]

Where I live and in many other places, property lines extend INTO and include land up to the middle of the alley. The city is granted easement for utility right-of-way. When I lived in Missouri, utility companies have easements through properties but the property is still owned by the respective home owners. So, a marker pin can be on either side of the imaginary line of street signs and utility poles. Depending on where you live, the pin can also be on either side of the public sidewalk in front of your house. Rural properties are very different too. The outer pins are almost always in the center line of rural/farm roads while the inner pins (when they exist) are most commonly corner fence posts.

[@traceyleeherbert7756]

Yes, It is this way where I live in So. California.

[@FloridaGirl-]

That was very interesting! Great advice! And the real time in that alley was nuts! Buyer beware 👍

[@MrTwinkieeater]

If this is your battle, your neighbors are too close.

[@arthurspooner36]

Too alive

[@ssgg23]

@@arthurspooner36wtf bro lol

[@CharlieTheCarpenter]

I agree!

[@Dave-zl2ky]

We put up a long fence years ago in New England. We got the survey first.

[@MrWatlow]

You talk a lot but man are you a wealth of knowledge!!!

[@Eastcoastkoillc]

I've been putting up fence for over 30 years now. And I asked the homeowner for a copy of their survey on the survey on the bottom it tells you tells you what the skill is per foot. Yeah go to Staples and you buy the triangle scale ruler or learn how to measure off a measure tape . If I can't find the pins you can measure off the sides of the house corners of the house the bump out of the house from the deck there's so many different ways. 15 minutes with a tape measure, and be within an inch or two. And all the maps never work especially on a cul-de-sac. And then don't forget the township can own anywhere from a foot in on the property to ten in the properties township the front pins can be anywhere from the curb 10 ft in on the property or they can be pinned in the middle of the street with a pin nail

[@crazysquirrel9425]

Some places won't let you put anything to the edge of a property line, fences included. Something about an easement for you to maintain your fence (6" to 12" back from the property line. Nor sure about structures. 3 feet sounds about right. I would not squabble over a scant few inches being off. Not worth the headaches.

[@curiouscat3384]

It is CRUCIAL to get a survey along with an inspection BEFORE you sign the purchase documents! It might change your mind about buying. ESPECIALLY for really old houses when property lines were not so clear

[@angelalucarelli649]

I had an issue with a new neighbor. Got a survey. Brought blueprints over to me tried saying my fence was on his property. He didn't know I could read that blueprint. And the fence in question was his fence not mine. 😂

[@bobw222]

My experiences on this. 1. I went to sell a property in Western New York and the prior survey for the property had the property line going through the neighbor's house. AND, the property didn't close on itself. Turned out the prior "survey" was done by a used car salesman. We got it straightened out because we had great neighbors and we both agreed where the line should have been. 2. Bought a property in Florida that was part of a set of lots previously owned by two brothers. The fence even had a gate in it to allow them to walk back and forth from house to house. When the survey was done it turned out the fence sits almost 5 feet over on the property next door which is now a rental property. Landlord doesn't care if I mow the lawn on my side of the fence, and even allowed me to cut down a large tree that was damaging "his" fence and threatening the power lines. A recent survey by the county for new road work they are doing shows that the frontage fence on the property sits about 2 feet on the county's right of way for the street out front. And, the rear fence on the property sits about 2 feet in from the surveyed rear edge of the property. Only 1 out of 4 fences on the property actually comes close (4 inches) to the property line per survey. Fortunately I have a great neighbor on that side also, as the fence is 4 inches on his side on one end and about 2 inches on my side on the other.

[@lykaojalao2733]

I would hope that all the homes owners understand the boundaries of theirs respective properties. Many owners just assume that because they bought the property and live there for this long they know the boundaries…wrong…unless a survey has been done under their names. I bought my property and had a survey done…all the fences from the previous owner and theirs were completely wrong. I have my survey professionally done on hand. The survey cost me 2500$.

[@kaycrary1898]

The backyard backing up to a dirt alley reminded me of Lake Worth and Ocala. Both older cities.

[@Kim-ek2mt]

I found the property line metal stakes on my property and built my fence 1 foot onto my side I did not want any problems

[@tharais]

Better than that, you retain control over said fence.

[@jimmieroan9881]

i live in san antonio tx, my neighborhood has the property line markers buried a couple feet down at the beginning or end of each block, your platt shows the distance to measure to the back, the markers are at the front so you can measure across the front. we actually caught the city of moving our easement several years ago, one of my neighbors took pictures when the city first came in marking and bringing equipment in, he got pictures of a worker digging the marker up and moving it a few ft. they were wanting to widen the street. it was just a couple feet but in places it also took the curve out of the street. all our water meters are right on the line also, most of the original homes had a meter then on property side a short distance in line they all had a water shut off, this was so you didn't need the city tool to shut water off. when they finished the job all our meters were now in the water shutoff valve on our property. you could easily see where the easement moved because of the driveways, owners stopped then the slanted approach on the easement side. several of us fought it but just a waste of time, we were basically told by stealing a few feet of our property it was only done to benefit us with a wider street. thanks city

[@phyllisedwards1328]

And if a starting point is described as 'midpoint in road such-and-such,' when maintenance, repaving is done on that road, midpoint may become difficult if not impossible to detect.

[@rea8755]

Lots of great info. In Florida the creativity of cut and paste and fake property maps and planting tree on top of metal markers: I could go on with "neighbors" tricks. 😂😂 Thanks again

[@presidentialsuite6406]

😂😂😂 yeah that's Florida for you

[@rea8755]

@@presidentialsuite6406 actually the neighbor was Jersey... Being tricky when selling😄

[@bobw222]

For the record, one corner of my property has at least two different survey pins placed by there by different licensed/registered surveyors. The pins are about 6 inches apart. I assume that the differences are due to better accuracy in the equipment surveyors are using today versus even 20 years ago.

[@stargazer7644]

If there was already a pin in place, they shouldn't have put another one in. You need to realize that a survey marker is nothing more than a surveyor's opinion of where the corner is.

[@sicsempertyrannis1849]

Sometimes the corners set aren't right, then you build off of that and cause yourself a lot of grief. Lot and block I would always survey the block whether or not the lot corners were in.

[@mysticknight9711]

Some states have property lines down the center of streets, and the street itself has an easement on both sides of the center.

[@mysticknight9711]

Related subject - you always want a “metes and bounds” legal description rather than something that says “lot X of block Y on plat Z” … lots can get renumbered over time and lead to ambiguities.

[@glenncaswell9062]

Jack More about the property location apps please.

[@commonsense6967]

You are correct, in FL, the fenceline means nothing! In fact, my investment property has the fence inside my property line, because utilities or something were underneath the property line. It's a very old house, and the only survey known was an unofficial "rideby" survey done many years ago. But the property assessors office does use the fences to guesstimate the lot size, though there's a disclaimer in the fine print. So my lot is incorrectly assessed as being smaller than any of the other lots on my side of the street. This will eventually be corrected when I (or my survivors) sell the property and get an actual survey, I guess. There used to be original concrete markers in the ground on the 4corners of the lot, but they've mysteriously disappeared.

[@venturacatremoc]

Had a neighbor build a fence over the line about 3 feet in the front, tapering down to the line in the back. She told me it would be hers after ten years. Not according to Tennessee regs. She moved the fence within a few months. Another guy is using a small section to have a little more front yard. Keeps it mowed and all. Most of it is county easement. It can be crazy what people believe is ok. Will have to survey to make sure about rear property lines because there are huge trees that have surely moved it. Thanks for info and good luck.

[@geraldcroft9020]

That guy with the fence I think has an eminent domain headed his way

[@cheesegrits196]

I think the guy with the pool house and shed has a much larger problem than the guy with the fence.

[@MAD-DUKE]

@@cheesegrits196 Im curious who wins that, if everyone but you wants you to lose property so it makes everything else work better. That is a lot of people to fight. Eminent domain might make the most sense, you'd still have to be paid for the land they force you to give up right?

[@traceyleeherbert7756]

@@MAD-DUKE I was think this too!

[@mariekatherine5238]

Spring for a registered surveyor. I did, and discovered that I’d put out the cash for five trees on my neighbor’s property. The HOA insisted it was my responsibility and gave me 20 days to remove the dead and dying shrubs and replace them with approved foliage. Turns out it was the neighbor’s land. Fortunately, they didn’t demand the new trees be uprooted at my expense for planting on their land, but they’ve made no move to reimburse me for at least part of the cost.😮

[@stargazer7644]

Why should anyone reimburse you for your own mistake?

[@realestateteam636]

Reimburse you? You are lucky they don't sue you. They owe you nothing. They never agreed to pay for anything that you alone decided to plant on their property.

[@TropicTrdr]

I just discovered your channel. Interesting video. I used to be stationed in Pensacola and lived behind Cordova Mall.

[@ralph95]

Utilities usually have an implied 15 foot easement

[@trishfitzpatrick2066]

We took over a half built house in a new neighborhood (previous owners lost financing) and it was a "flag" lot (a driveway that leads to the bulk of the lot). Luckily we got a surveyor to confirm the dimensions before we accepted the finished home. They had build our driveway on the NEIGHBOR'S property! It was so screwed up that the surveyor had to follow markers all the way out of this huge development to the main road and start back. The builder was forced to dig out the incorrect driveway and install a new one in the right place. NEVER buy a home without a survey!

[@ianbelletti6241]

Finding the stakes is a good start. For general knowledge the property stakes are good enough. For line disputes or building permanent structures near the property line it's important to get a survey.

[@OKHotrodder4u]

When I built my house and shop, the neighbor had been parking his cars on my property for years because the previous owner that owned all of it, put up fences where ever and didn't survey anything. So a tree line and fence was about 25 ft off. My neighbor was pissed at first because he never knew what he bought wasn't correct. It has caused some issues also with him wanting a storage shed and carport also. The city won't approve the permit because they say it's too close to the property line, which they require a 15ft right of way on ea side of the line. To me, the 15ft shouldn't be bound when absolutely nothing can be done by anyone that would justify using the fence line. I didn't even know till the bulldozer went down the side that it was part of what I bought. The issue caused my neighbor to loose what he thought was 25ft especially after the standing fence was removed and a new one installed on the line. But, all new surveying was done prior to my builder taking a bulldozer down the fence line. It wasn't my intentions to piss the neighbor off, which we now talk. But assuming something is yours is where people go wrong at. I ended up combining my parcels into one just to avoid future issues. By combining properties into one, you eliminate right of ways. Now, no one can put a road through my acreage because there's no line.

[@waynenocton]

On my property back in the 80’s when my mom bought it, the next door neighbor pulled the pins and gave himself a bit more property. He did this right after we bought it before we got all moved in, so we didn’t figure it out until after the old guy died, his wife then told us. Didn’t really cause us any issues, just the mowing lines for the most part but easily could have been worse

[@jamesscherping2461]

Just get the survey, it may not be the current owners. We have a neighbor (a renter) who removes the survey markers, fence posts and signs. We use a company that uses satellite positioning. Always get permits and check. A waterway two lots over can impact you.

[@Bland-79]

The house next door is a rental property. My property line literally butts up against the house there. There was multiple trees on my side at the edge that shaded my house and lowered my electric bill in the Summer. The former owner sold it and before I had enough time to do anything the new land lord cut two of the three trees down. I managed to stop them before the last was taken down . The lady who owns the property claims the trees are on both properties but I know better because I had that checked when I bought my house. She also didn't cut the last tree down. She just said that to avoid a lawsuit. She also still has to fix my chain link fence the people she paid to cut the trees down damaged when they dropped part of the tree on it. It's bee a couple months and I keep getting excuses.

[@lisalee2885]

Did you get any information as to the company who did the cutting? They should have insurance

[@Bland-79]

@lisalee2885 They gave me the phone number. After a couple of times of calling them, they stopped returning my calls. That said, the neighbors have fixed the fence. The only problem is one of the poles till moves back and forth. I will probably attempt to fix that one myself, being I'm tired of waiting and don't want to make an enemy of the neighbors.

[@kfelix2934]

If you are going to buy a property, you should request the seller survey. Also , you can use your county GIS CAD mapping, that would give you rough information about your property length, etc...

[@heroesandzeros7802]

On May 18, 2024, a business owner got a permit from the city to host an outdoor event and to block off a street. He had a real nice car and truck show. They parked on and all around my property, put up a tent and lawn chairs on my property. The property consists of a commercial building and a residential 3BR house. I asked them to leave my property and they refused. The police did nothing to remove them and even told me that I did not own my property. I just happened to be there to mow my grass and could not get anywhere near it. My 5 tenants could not get into their property. This was the second time the city gave permit to do this so they knew he would "Take" my property. Using the 5th Amendment and the Taking Clause, the city now gets sued in federal court and the business owner gets sued for trespassing. Ching, ching.

[@jerigabbard6825]

I'm in Florida and I was told that no survey was recorded with the property appraiser when I bought my property! I have a copy of it. They said that it was done by an independent surveyor not by one of theirs so it doesn't count. Seriously, what?

[@jillgott6567]

I live in Maine. At one apartment I rented - the house had changed hands with landlords who did not live in the home. The next door neighbors had doubled their driveway plus built a shed. The property pin to the home I lived in was a quarter almost a half into the driveway next door. It had been pounded down and the driveway built up and tarred so only a small section of the pin could be seen. It was usually hidden by a tire of one of the cars in the driveway. And half the shed was on the property I lived in.

[@timsteinkamp2245]

I always pay for a survey then put PVC pipe sections over the stake. It seems they always pound them into the ground. My first survey I gained 10'. I never thought the property line would be 1 foot away from the neighbors home. I'm talking one foot away from their bedroom window. But it was and they accepted the survey. I did not put up a fence though. A neighbor on the side wanted to cut down a tree and I thought it was his so didn't say anything but come to find out, after the survey, it was mine. It was a willow so was kind of obnoxious. The tree was shading his Dahlia garden. He paid all the cost. Make sure the contract says you agree to corner stakes and you will clean out any brush in the way. Also make sure it is for each lot and not just the purchase you made which could be multiple lots. If they are going to stake and record everything might as well do it right the first time. Don't settle for wood marker stakes.

[@bennym1956]

ALWAYS get a survey done when buying property, ALWAYS !!

[@charliehill6914]

Never rely on the municipal property maps for accurate boundaries. However, the power company, gas company, etc. generally are very close.

[@adrianakessler384]

Our line actually runs into neighbor’s driveway-luckily, I grew up w his sister when I was a kid, & he is pretty cool, but I could definitely see issues, if you weren’t best of buddies.

[@joycehaines2055]

When people sell that's when new owners are establishing boundaries.

[@Zelondra17]

Had something similar happen with a new build I bought years ago. Before I closed I had the builders fix it because I was losing a large chunk of my backyard.

[@jaslady22]

Let me add this: Florida, has some strange codes, laws, rules, which they don't always follow! My house was the first built on this Cul-De-Sac, and therefore set the side setbacks! My survey states the easement is 7 and a half feet (not the typical 5 feet) for side setbacks. Says so on my survey. Oh, and measure from a roof line, not the side of the house! You DO own your roof and the air space over it (were you even aware of that)? Think antennas. So, property line is one thing and the easement (extended beyond that property line is another space) that Utility Company and you, get to maintain fence and walk through to do that maintenance! ONLY you and that Utility company has the right to trim the vegetation you planted, not the neighbor who doesn't like when they view as their side of your hedges or trees! That is what easement means! The buffer zone. Space. BTW, my neighbors house, was built in the easement, with NO variances listed in the town! How? My house was owned by the original builders of both houses that owned both properties at the same time! Tangled webs! Word salad: I put up that fence, 'Yeah, when you owned MY property, it conveyed in my survey and now I own that fence'. Careful with people who wish to continue to own rights to YOUR land! Neighbors from hell, do exist, and when they own a chainsaw and hate your trees inflict damages that 20 years of growth can't replace! Just saying.

[@walterrutherford8321]

I’ve got great neighbors! The neighbors on two sides of my property found that the fences at the property I bought were a good 3-4ft onto my property. One neighbor just rebuilt the fence where it should’ve been at her own cost (rejecting my offer to split the cost) losing several square yards of her yard in the process. The neighbor on the other side told me the fence wasn’t on the property line and agreed to split the cost of a new fence with me also losing what had looked like his yard.

[@Dstromb232]

When I bought my property from a realtor, I had their survey which I had them to sign a document verifying the boundaries were accurate. Then I had 2 other surveyors come out, one the city and one from another company. I received permeants from the city. No lots were sold on both sides of my property yet when I bought my lot. and I did not want any trouble when the realtor sells them. So far its been almost 5 years great neighbors. I would not scrobble over 1 or 3 inches.

[@inspectr1949]

Strangely here in northern NY surveys are not required to buy and sell property. My previous 17 acre property I owned for 36 years that I had surveyed after several verbal disputes with a disgruntled original neighbor finally resulted in him selling and moving but only to be continued with each of the next 2 owners so they eventually moved, then on the other side of the property a very cocky retired NY City cop (hate those city people) bought raw land and had 4 surveys until one was to his liking to have it logged on my land that I couldn't stop, advice from my attorney was to sell and move because it would be very expensive and protracted with no favorable results so we sold and moved; BTW, that attorney is now the county DA.

[@Almechazel]

Similar happened to me with 21 acres in Malone. Neighbors sold some undeveloped property, the guy who bought it decided our land was his and cut down about a half acre of trees while we were out of town. That was a fun dispute.

[@inspectr1949]

@@Almechazel How'd that work out? Dispute = blood sucking attorneys, money and lots of it with no clear winners.

[@getintothewildwithjeffruma8777]

That alloy / fence issue looks like the city needs to come in and cut down those two large trees and grind the stumps to make the alloy useable again. I would imagine they would grandfather the two sheds.

[@jondeer5239]

I install power poles and there are several reasons why a pole is installed where it is installed. We may be avoiding a tree root. There could be underground utilities preventing us from putting the pole where it should be. Maybe the overhead power lines will rub a building or be too close to a roof. At the end of the day the people that installed the poles put it where they want to put it.

[@ladypilliwick8179]

fences won't count in survey disputes. and theres foundation stones which are the center of all surveys remember land goes up and down. so land can go all over the place

[@jordangouveia1863]

I live on a plat that was developed in the early 1960's. There isn't a reference marker within 2 miles of the plat! What a mess, every survey is different, the roads were found to be five feet off their intended locations. I have a carrier pole 100' inside my property. It's my land but not my pole! Last year the original pole fell down the utility replaced within 4 hours!

[@ChrisZenner-b8j]

Been through this with a neighbor that claimed part of my property until I showed him the property stakes.

[@faithsrvtrip8768]

Get. A. Survey.

[@imyourhuckleberry8009]

Had similar problem on BI Hawaii with a flag lot. Each flag lot was supposed to have a 10ft wide driveway but the utility company put the poles 2 feet inside the driveway of one of the lots ( my neighbors driveway). So when we did the survey I found my neighbor unknowingly encroached my driveway by 2 feet. Anyways, long story short, we just let them share some of our driveway.

[@timrohla3166]

Thank you for having the kahuna's to share this info with the public. Obviously these are not legally binding methods, but this information is very good to know and can be very useful, especially if time/finances are in short supply. As for the know it all commentors, just remember: people are stupid! 😅 Thanks again for a greay video. 👍

[@naruttaanime9471]

I glad you do not adverse possess and get to live long life without mean neighbors and lawsuits. Survey is great idea.

[@bobbg9041]

Western side of the nation more defined, eastern oldest part of the country not as cut and dried Property boundaries records were not kept as well. And the metal steaks are not always right, biggest reason the person doing the pins could be off. In the western part of the nation large blocks were laid out these pins are the corners of a grid But when these markers were set stuff like trees were walked around to measure. A property line is defined on paper whats on the ground goes by whats in the deed But even deeds can be wrong. There is no point in getting into a property line fight but even then its a best guess

[@LaylaDSmith]

Always get a survey and ensure the legal description in your title policy matches the legal description of your survey. An attorney will do that..... However I prefer doing it myself. 🤣

[@crazycatslave]

I like that my city has an ordinance that states that fences cannot be within 3 feet of the property line. So if I have a fence and my neighbor has a fence, there must be no less than 6 feet between them. And fence hight is limited to 6 feet tall.

[@stargazer7644]

Isn't it nice to pay for land that you can't use and have to pay taxes for it every year?