How to Fit a Brushless Motor to a Tamiya TT02

[@catcancrunch7260]

Hi Mark was changing motors around yesterday and was not happy with mesh, just watching you I know now that it’s indicated on plate the pinion size 👍👍👍 now I will strip it back down and do it properly ! Thanks for this mate

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hiya, Cat. Oh yeah, you gotta get that mesh right, or it's curtains for the gears! Glad you got the info and will redo the settings - better to be safe than sorry! All the best from Mark... :)

[@banthapoodo]

Greatly appreciate you and your cameraman. Thank you both

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thank you very much for the kind comment - I will pass it on to my son, who was the cameraman! Best regards from Mark :)

[@MarkBryanRC]

@ Thanks Matthew! Really sorry mate - I wish I could help more, but I had a quick search for you and the only bodies I could find were over £500!!!! It sounds like a great project, but these bodies are like hens teeth! The buggy was about 5 mph faster, but would have pulled much higher gearing, we reached 26mph on my other buggy! Good luck and all the best from Mark... :)

[@petergoodwin2465]

Very enjoyable video mate, these are the things that make the hobby even better. Can always learn something better from this channel.

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thanks again, Peter! Glad it was useful, my son and I did this one a while ago, I may do another one as I think we could do it better next time round! Cheers for the kind words. 👍

[@robbrennanrc]

Hay Mark. Nice video. Very clear advice on the soldering for anyone who may not have done this kind of thing before.

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thanks for the comment Rob - yeah, I hope the video is of some help to anyone that hasn't soldered before.

[@ianwinpenny1857]

Great video Mark. I have setup the TT02 with a high speed gear set and using 64P gears and stuffing around with setups. These kits are great

[@MarkBryanRC]

That setup sounds great, Ian! I agree, these kits are blooming marvelous!! :)

[@DC_Cha_Cha_Cha]

Brilliant, thanks Mark (and person handling the camera) for that video. This video has been very helpful, and doing a bit of soldering looks like a cool little project to do (and learn!) 👍👍

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thanks for the great comment, Paul. The cameraman was my 14 year old son - I will pass on your comment - he will be very pleased! I'm glad you found it helpful. I hope you do have a go at a bit of soldering, it is quite easy after a little practice and comes in useful for many electrical projects! Hope your weekend is good - cheers from Mark :-)

[@lanaandsam07]

Great vdeo :) Just building a TT-02 - my first electric RC as i usually run Nitro and this video is definitely going to help when it comes to upgrade time!

[@MarkBryanRC]

Great to hear! Thanks for the great comment - you will have fun with the TT02, it's a great little Tamiya. Good luck when it comes to upgrade time! Best wishes from Mark... :)

[@moraesmarcobsb]

Hi...I just bought a blue motor like this, but 10.5 T to run TT02 TBLE 02S , for racing on pavement... Great job 👍

[@MarkBryanRC]

Good choice, Marco! My friend has the 10.5T and it goes very well - it's so fast and has had no problems - I'm sure you will love it - enjoy! :O)

[@NordicRC]

Love your vids. Such great amd careful demonstrations, intelligent, and calm and enjoyable. Thumbs up to both of you!

[@MarkBryanRC]

I am so pleased with your comments Nordic RC Visions! I know it sounds a bit strange, but I have watched this video back a couple of times and yes - it does seem to be very calm, and draws you in - no idea why! Maybe it's father and son chemistry, working together as a team! Thanks for sticking with a rather long video and getting a feeling for it - always a pleasure to read you :-)

[@NordicRC]

Mark Bryan RC My pleasure to watch a video with a good flow. Love the intelligent questions from the son and the intelligent answers from a father :-)

[@MarkBryanRC]

Nordic RC Visions - Thank you - you are too kind :-)

[@0megaming]

I got my TT02 Subaru Impreza Monte Carlo ´99 with 2S/3S LiPo system from the store ^^ I love how it handles ^^

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi! Yeah, the TT02 is a great chassis and handles like a dream! Have fun! :D

[@0megaming]

I put in wheel housings made of plastic cups and duct tape. I´d say, I got 80% less gravel in the car ^^ (tested it today)

[@MarkBryanRC]

@@0megaming Sounds like a great idea 💡 I must try that on my TT02! Hope all is good with you! Cheers 🍻!

[@0megaming]

@@MarkBryanRC Thanks a lot ❤ Hope you're fine and healthy, too ^^ When I start my RC channel with a friend, I'll tell you, so that you can see, what I drive it through XD

[@MarkBryanRC]

@@0megaming I look forward to seeing your new channel! :)

[@Javamancometh]

Thanks Mark for hw to turn on brushless mode on the esc. Had problems with it went to Google but can't find help. I'm trying to set up a tt02 rally. Beat the blues away with rc.

[@MarkBryanRC]

Cheers, I'm really glad you found it useful - that's why I make these videos. I appreciate the feedback, thank you! Definitely - the RC hobby beats the blues away for sure! 😉

[@roasty80]

Getting my original tto2 out my parents loft that I bought back in the day. Going to upgrade it to brushless and lipo

[@MarkBryanRC]

Great to hear, dude! Yeah, always a good job to breathe new life into and old Tamiya! Hope it goes well! :D

[@roasty80]

@@MarkBryanRC thank you.discovered a few parts missing so just making a list on ebay to see how much it will cost

[@MarkBryanRC]

@@roasty80 I had the same experience! Happy part-hunting!

[@CmwSpeedrunUk]

Learning more and more watching your videos great work guys 👌🏽

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi Chris! Glad the videos are of help, it was good having my son asking questions in this one, I think he really added to the video, plus he was filming with his phone so that was one less thing for me to worry about! Have a good Sunday! :)

[@CmwSpeedrunUk]

Mark Bryan RC 💪🏽🥇👌🏽

[@christophercoconis2575]

Great video Mark!! Very informative and well done,I've been soldering for many years it's part of my job..I got to say you explain it like I do when I have to train new hires very calmly.. Great job my friend ☺

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thanks Christopher! Yeah, I learned how to solder in my first job (many moons ago!) I worked in a telephone exchange for BT back in the 80s - soldering was a big part of the job, connecting all the telephone wires to the main frame. What soldering does your job involve? Sorry mate - just being nosey! I enjoyed making the video with Alf - and it helped me because it was Alf I was explaining to and he had never soldered before, so it came out nice and calm :-)

[@christophercoconis2575]

Mark Bryan RC It's really cool that Alf is so interested in the hobby and you're teaching him the proper way bud 😊 I learned myself thru trial and error.. I'm a machine tech but also help out training some new hires in the electrical assembly of the lab tables the company manufactures.. soldering the wires to the motors and the lead's wires to the outlet board also the lighting system for the tables..It's fun but takes patience teaching some of them..

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thanks Christopher - yeah, I'm really pleased that Alf has joined in with the RC hobby - he's a natural cameraman too, lucky for me! Interesting to hear what you do - and I understand what you mean about patience teaching some people - I work in a primary school nowadays!!!

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi Christopher - I think you all know Pete Wylie - a fantastic member of our RC community - Sorry to say that he has had some awful bad luck - whilst charging a LiPo in his hobby room, it set on fire and has demolished his RC collection and nearly burnt down his house! He has had to move into neighbours in the meanwhile and he and his wife is suffering from smoke inhalation - please visit his channel and send messages of support - I am sure he will appreciate that we all wish him and his wife all the best for the future - best regards, Mark...

[@christophercoconis2575]

Mark Bryan RC Omg..Wow

[@aviramlucken6475]

Hi Mark great video's I'm done with my hsp Truck the lights look good I fitted 8 of. I started a new project I'm having a hard time with the esc Tamiya TBLE02S I'm running a brushed motor after about 5 mins it cuts off the red light blinks I have to switch it off an on it works does the same it's a brushed motor. But I'm using a 2s lipo

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thanks Avi! That Truck Sounds great! Hmm, with the TBLE02 it sounds like it's going into overload shutoff. I'd try it with a standard silver can and see if that works, it could be your motor draws too much current (less than 21 turns?). You need a LiPo alarm for that battery or the TBLE02 will kill it, it doesn't have a LiPo cutoff! Cheers! :)

[@tobyblake197]

Hi Mark I followed your video series on setting up a TT-02 for rally; very informative and easy to follow, thanks. I have a Q about this ESC: I’m running a brushless motor and 2S LiPo. The receiver is bound but when I turn on the transmitter then ESC the ESC beeps once and one flash green, then fast flash red. When I press and hold the setup button and power on the ESC it slow beeps and flashes green…! Any help would be much appreciated 🙏🏼

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi Toby, can you let me know if you have the TBLE02 or TBLE04 ESC? I will try to help if I can, I promise!

[@tobyblake197]

Thanks for getting back to me; it’s a TBLE02-S.

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi again Toby. Ah there is definitely a problem. For brushless mode, the ESC should flash orange when you turn on. Flashing green once and one beep indicates brushed mode. The flashing red after that means that the ESC is in overload protection mode. This could be caused by the motor or battery problems. It may be the ESC is now damaged, but try setting it to brushless mode and see if that works. Good luck!

[@rctaz990]

Brilliant video. Very helpful and very well made. Top man

[@MarkBryanRC]

Cheers to you, Taz! I hope it was of some use to you, it was nice explaining how to do the conversion to my son, Alf. He's a good lad! :))

[@scatteredparts296]

Great video and strong guidance on soldering! Can you tell me your thoughts on what soldering wire gives you the best electrical conductivity such as 60/40? Also what diameter solder do you recommend for small RC connectors, .031? Thank you for sharing your amazing skills!

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thanks very much for your comment and questions! I was an electrical technician for over 20 years, so got a lot of practice! As for the solder, I still prefer lead-based solder, I just can't get on with the lead-free stuff! Here are the specs of the solder I prefer: Wire Diameter 1.2mm Percent Lead 40% Percent Tin 60% Melting Point 183°C Flux Type Rosin Based Flux Content Percent 3% I hope this helps - cheers!

[@rich-wg5lb]

Search Federal Specification QQ-S-571 for all types of solder, including chemical composition, form, temperature range solid to liquid, etc

[@webreakforsquirrel4201]

Soldering solid terminals onto the circuit board tabs like that could rip the contact pads or break them clean off from the fiber material if impacted.

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thanks for the comment! Yes I suppose if I ran the buggy without a body and it rolled over on concrete that could happen. But I've run it for 5 years (with the body on) and have never had a problem! Cheers!

[@rogerking2801]

nice video much needed information tt02 motor system swap to brushless! THANKS.

[@MarkBryanRC]

roger king - thank you so much for the comment and support my friend - even if only one person finds my video useful in any way, then it was worth making it. I hope you conversion goes well - let me know if you have any issues and I will try to help if I can :-)

[@F1_Editsz]

If u were to get a new moter for a terra schorcher what would be the best on to get?

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hey Jamie, I would go safe and just fit a Tamiya Sport Tuned motor - more speed and no worries! :O)

[@jeromeprost]

Great video. I have the same motor (T2M rush 17,5T ) but my car is now very slow compared to Tamiya Sport tuned. Is something wrong ? Acceleration seems great but only few meters and then the car is just slow...

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thank you! Ahh - yes, it will seem slow compared to the Spot tuned on the same gearing - the 17.5T does not spin as fast - you need to up the gearing! A 20 0r 21 tooth pinion will make it much better! :)

[@jeromeprost]

@@MarkBryanRC thanks! What would be your advice? Keep this brushless motor and change the pinion gear or come back to the brushed sport tuned?

[@MarkBryanRC]

@@jeromeprost Both options are good - but with the Brushless you will get much longer run times, even if it's not any faster than the Sport Tuned.

[@meanrhythm9048]

Hi Mark. 1 - I love your channel. Early 80’s I was an awestruck kid that went to Beatties after school nearly every day to drool at the Tamiya video on loop. I could have sold the cars for them after a while.- lol. 2 - Ive just ordered my first kit in 17 years - tt-02 and I wouldn’t have done so without your videos- so thank you. 3 - is that an analogue crystal Acoms receiver I see there? 4 - Can I ask what make of brushless motor you’ve got there? 5 - Can I ask if you have done or will do videos on things like matching power ratings battery-esc-motor, gear-ratio formulas etc. RC electric theory basically. I ask because you’ve got such a lovely way of explaining everything, so clear and calm. Sorry if I’m asking stuff already answered elsewhere. MR

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi MR and thanks for the great comment! Oh yes, I was an avid Beatties fan in the 80's but I was in my twenties then! Great you have ordered a new Tamiya and the TT02 is a good choice. And yes I still run my ancient 27mHz Acoms radio gear in some of my cars! The blue motor is an unbranded Chinese motor, they were all over eBay a few years ago for £20 but I haven't seen any for a couple of years. Shame 'cos they are good for the money. Hmmm, I'll have a think about that power and motor/ESC video, it's a tricky one! Thanks for the compliment, I used to teach kids for years and I picked up the knack of explaining stuff! All the best, take care! Regards, Mark

[@meanrhythm9048]

You’re a gentleman Mark. Wish I had more teachers of your calibre. No one ever forgets a good teacher. Very kind of you to reply. Best wishes - MR

[@MarkBryanRC]

Appreciated very much! Cheers! :o)

[@HARKAICHRIS]

hi again where did you get the bullet connectors from thanks chris

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi Chris - sorry but I did this years ago and don't remember the seller, but all I did was type "4mm gold connectors" into the eBay search field. Lots popped up and I just chose the best deal! I reckon if you do the same, you'll find what you need. Cheers!

[@michaelnewenham8092]

What brushless turn would you recommend on a TT-01 Type E? Want to do some rally car on road/off road playing. Thanks

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi Michael - I find that a sensored brushless motor of 13.5 turns is perfect for a Tamiya tt02 or tt01 rally car, not too fast and not too slow, plus great extended runtimes too. All the best from Mark... :O)

[@Elola72]

Very nice your videos, I like them! Just go a Subaru TT02, I'm wondering witch bruschless is the one I can supoport with out blowing the ESC! ?

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi Martin. Thanks for the nice comment. You can fit any sensored brushless motor, if it is 13 turns or above it will be fine with the standard TBLE02s ESC. I have been running many 13.5T motors for over 2 years with no problems! :-)

[@darrellroireau4061]

Nice vid Sir! Can you make a run vid on this? I see you said this motor is pushing the limits of the esc. How did it work out? Running high temps or just fine? Thanks!

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thanks for the comment Darrell - But no, the motor is definitely NOT pushing the limits of the ESC (it WOULD be if it was a 17 turn brushed motor) but the TBLE will run down to a 10.5 turn sensored brushless motor. I have fitted a 13.5 turn sensored brushless and this runs fine too - no overheating - no problems! You can see the car in this video running here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3nPpJqmo51nrcU and the 13.5 turn Neo Scorcher running here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZK4nHato8aAfas

[@SergeyZZZ1977]

Hello. It's been 3 years. What are the results of this engine? Driving performance, resource? I have a stock (rally) TT-02 (TBLE-02s) I want to install a similar brushless motor but 10.5 T. Have you used this drive with powerful LiPo batteries?

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hello! I can report that this motor has worked faultlessly for 3 years - it's not too fast and we needed to up the geraring with a 20T pinion. I have run the 13.5 version of this motor with no issues on the TBLE02, it is quite a bit faster. My friend has run the 10.5 version in his Wild One buggy with no overheating issues, and did not fit a fan to the TBLE02. I have not run a Lipo with any of these motors, but I have with a 13.5 Turnigy TrackStar motor on the TBLE02 and that was fine!

[@quentinwong7607]

hey mark! love your video. i was wondering in this video what kind of battery were you running? and how long was the run time on this?

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi! We usually use 3000mAh NiMh batteries in these buggies, run times depend on the surface we are running on, but usually 30 minutes plus! All the best! :O)

[@Bunnytoes666]

yah, anybody could be a pro solderer after watching that. Very clear to understand, and I've been soldering since I was 10 Shit that's 37 years! Daayaamn!

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thanks very much for the comment, Geoffrey! Yeah, I used to be a telecoms engineer working in a telephone exchange - soldering was a big part of every day back then, so I had lots of practice! Started that job 40 years ago - Daayaaamn too! :)

[@eneabellomo6768]

Hello, I tink that this motor is much slower than brushed version, or not?

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi there! Yes I think the motor is probably slower than a 17T brushed motor but it has more torque and the battery lasts 3x as long! All the best! :))

[@clicko1231]

Hello, i have the same ESC and i got my hands on a 22BL maverick sensorless motor from a friend and i am new to this stuff, i read about it doesnt matter what order the cables go on a sensorless setup but since the ESC is a sensored would the order of my cables matter? I can find the ESC stuff in the manual but ithere are no markings on the motor, can i damage any of my components if i plug them wrong? I am a bit worried, i would be very happy if you could help me to understand.

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi there. I'm sorry to say that the TBLE02s does not support sensorless motors. If you plug it in nothing will happen, the motor will not spin. You need a sensorless ESC, and if you plug the cables in incorrectly, you won't damage the motor or ESC, it will run but the motor will not be as efficient as it would be if wired correctly. I hope this helps and good luck sorting out your motor and ESC! 😎👍

[@clicko1231]

@@MarkBryanRC Aww man, it's a bummer i wont be able to use this motor with my ESC but at least now, i know what to do. It was amazing help. Thank you so much for your time and answer!

[@MarkBryanRC]

@@clicko1231 You are very welcome!

[@clicko1231]

@@MarkBryanRC Hello again! I ended up buying the same looking motor in 10.5T version, and thanks to your video, i was able to solder and setup everything perfectly i just wanted to say thanks again for all the help. I would still be at why my motor wont work step without your help. Good luck again at the tt-02 speedrun!

[@MarkBryanRC]

@@clicko1231 Hello again and thank you so much for letting me know how you got on! I'm really pleased that you found the motor and got it all working perfectly - this is great news to me and I am happy I could help! I also appreciate your support for the speedrun, but I think 40mph is the best I can get but we will keep trying! Best wishes!

[@camrowdrone6497]

Great video watching and learning 👍🏻

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thanks bud - it's good to know you found some of the video useful, makes it worth doing! Have a good Sunday :)

[@frankschmitz3341]

Top work.

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thank you, Frank! Cheers!

[@problemchild1976]

Great vid. How comes not using 2.4ghz radio gear?

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thanks very much. I use old school Acoms radios and receivers because I have so many from back in the 80's and 90's - they still work well and I can use the same transmitter on many models. I do have a few 2.4G sets, also. Regards from Mark.. :)

[@dylan4972]

Good video, no need to zoom in so much almost had a spew from motion sickness :D TT-02 is a nice platform.

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thanks Dylan! Sorry about the zoom - that was my 15 year old son on the camera - bless him, he did a better job than I could! Yeah, the TT-02 is a great starting point for many types of RC, road, rally and buggy! All the best from Mark... :)

[@dylan4972]

@@MarkBryanRC oh then he really did a fantastic job. Was very useful as I'm looking to change to brushless.

[@MarkBryanRC]

Cheers, Dylan. I recommend the brushless conversion. The sensored motors run really smoothly, and faster (depending on the number of turns/Kv you go for) but the thing I like the most is that your run times are so much longer as the motors are much more efficient. I wouldn't go lower than a 13.5 turn though, as the plastic bevel gears are prone to stripping with way too much power.

[@dylan4972]

@@MarkBryanRC you are a superstar I was wondering what turn I was looking at 13 and 10T so I'll go for a 15 or 13. Thanks a lot and yes I'm tired of the short run times.

[@MarkBryanRC]

No worries, any time Dylan! :)

[@RoadsideRC]

Very nice tutorial! We recently picked up the TT-02 Mustang GT4. We will go brushless eventually, so your tips and tricks were very helpful! Have you upgraded the diff or spur gear from plastic? How about driveshafts?

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thanks, Roadside RC! That Mustang will look awesome! Glad you liked the video, it was nice doing it with my young son! No - I kept the transmission standard but I have stripped one of the diff gears - installed a new plastic one (very cheap) and it has been fine since, but the diffs are a weak point on these models so an upgrade to the DF metal diffs is a good option, but it takes a little filing to get them to fit, so I have heard. :-)

[@RoadsideRC]

@@MarkBryanRC Gotcha - thanks for the response. I heard something about DF-02 (?) diffs, but have not checked into them fully yet to find all the part numbers. Thanks again! I was wondering who was asking the questions in the background - nice to hear it was your son.

[@MarkBryanRC]

No worries - yeah, the DF-02 metal diffs fit in with a little persuasion! The plastic dogbones (or driveshafts) are very strong and it's quite expensive to change them for the steel ones. The propshaft is a cheap option to change for the alloy hop-up, about £10 with the alloy prop joints. Yeah it was my son, Alfie, asking questions and filming for me on his Samsung phone! :))

[@MrKingNica]

Do you mind telling me at what temperature did you have your soldering iron Set to please?

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi King Nica - My soldering iron is rated at 30W and the temperature is not adjustable. The melting point of most solder is in the region of 188°C (370°F) and the iron tip temperature is typically 330°C to 350°C (626°F to 662°F). So a good starting point is 350°C. The temperature is not too critical though - it just needs to be hot enough to melt the solder thoroughly so it flows into the joint - the important thing is not to leave the soldering iron in contact with the joint too long after the solder has flowed, this is when overheating of the job may happen. Just take the soldering iron tip off the joint as soon as it has flowed and all will be fine. Hope this helps mate!

[@gravey07]

What battery types must you use for brushless? Thanks.

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hello! Well it depends more on your ESC than the brushless motor. Most ESC's are both NiMh and LiPo 2s compatible (some are also 3s compatible). If you are using LiPo, make sure the ESC has a LiPo cut-off - if not you will need to fit a LiPo cut-off alarm. The ESC instructions will provide all the information you need. Hope this helps! :)

[@Del350K4]

Hello again; I´m trying to set up my TBLE 02S for brushless mode. I wasn´t sure whether you had the radio on while you did it, but as you asked Alf to press "forward" and there seemed to be no delay while he switched on, I took it that you had the Tx switched on all along. When I try it, I get a red, rather than an orange, LED which flashes quickly, unlike your slower orange flash. Pressing the "set" button has no effect. I´ve tried with the Tx switched off with the same result and I know that it´s working as the steering works. I´m starting to think I may have a faulty ESC, but as it´s brand new and genuine Tamiya that does seem unlikely. Have you any advice for me?

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi Del - Hmmm - something sounds amiss! You need to do the brushed/brushless setup with the Tx OFF Hold the set button down BEFORE you power on (I need to use a pen or similar to make sure it is pressed down - you can hear a faint click when it is on). Power on keeping the set button down, release when the ORANGE LED lights up - be careful 'cos the orange and red LED look very similar, the sequence is GREEN, ORANGE, RED. SO just release the set button after it changes from green. It flashes orange, then you press set again to accept the setting. It should then flash orange and bleep till you turn the TX on, when it will stop bleeping. The setup I show of the TBLE is clearer in the Konghead version of this video, I think! Hope this helps, Del - good luck!!!

[@Del350K4]

Thanks for your reply, Mark. I just did it again, with the Tx switched off...and it worked like a charm. I was able to distinguish the orange from the red and did it all as you described. When I turned the Tx on the LED settled to a slow, contented-seeming orange flash, but there´s no response from the motor. As everything happened exactly as you described right up till I squeezed the trigger, I think we can give the ESC a clean bill of health (I´ll confirm that by plugging it into something else) so I´m starting to stare at my motor with a jaundiced eye. At least, thanks to your video, I know where to get an affordable replacement!

[@MarkBryanRC]

Sounds like the ESC is OK! Just a thought, you have got the sensor cable plugged in? I had a sensor cable with one of the tiny wires dry-jointed on one of the end connectors, and the motor would not spin.

[@Del350K4]

Sadly it´s a sensorless motor. I think the ESC´s okay - I plan to plug it into my Mini Trophy this evening, to confirm that I need a new motor.

[@MarkBryanRC]

Ahhh - that's it then Del - the TBLE will only work with sensored motors! You will need a sensorless ESC for that motor - good news is the motor is most probably fine :-)

[@jmaclaren4147]

Can the plastic diff gears withstand the motor?

[@MarkBryanRC]

Sure can! 3 years of running this one with no issues - to be honest, it's not massively faster than the Torque Tuned, but runs so much smoother and the battery life is double what it was! :)

[@linlinlixin2637]

I want to take the redcat wendigo's brushless system and install it in the tt02. Would that be a good idea?

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi - not sure what system is in the Wendigo - but it would be worth a try, I think - what's to lose? If it's too powerful, you can always take it back out. All the best from Mark... :)

[@linlinlixin2637]

@@MarkBryanRC it has a hobbywing quickrun 10bl60 brushless esc with a 540 3300kv brushless motor. I'm just worried about all the plastic gears in the diffs and the drive shaft.

[@MarkBryanRC]

@@linlinlixin2637 I think it should be OK, my blue Neo Scorcher TT02B has a Trackstar 13.5T brushless motor (about 3000kv) and it runs fine on the stock plastic gears - but if you do strip any, the whole set of gears is only about £5!!! The drive shafts will take the power! :O)

[@linlinlixin2637]

@@MarkBryanRC im going to give it a try. Thank you. One last quick question, what paint did you use for it and what blue is it? Thank you.

[@linlinlixin2637]

@@MarkBryanRC my mistake, I thought this was the Subaru.

[@davidridge6127]

Hey was just wondering if this is the same brushless motor on aliexpress? Iv been looking ax going brushless on my neo schorcher but not sure what to go for. Any affordable suggestions? I’m in NZ

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi David! Not sure about aliexpress. Seeing as you are in NZ, I would recommend a worldwide supplier - and the Hobbyking Trackstar sensored brushless 13.5 turn motor is my preferred choice, I have 4 of them and they are all good! Great performance and very affordable at around £26 GBP. As a bonus, it comes with the sensor cable too! I have one fitted in my blue Neo Scorcher. You can see this motor and the TBLE-02s ESC setup here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2bKippqp9OjgK8 Hope this helps - and Seasons Greetings to you from the UK! :-)

[@davidridge6127]

Mark Bryan RC legend, thank you. Keep up the videos there awesome 👍

[@MarkBryanRC]

No worries mate!

[@nothinrn8907]

Great video, thank you!

[@MarkBryanRC]

...And thank YOU, Aaron for taking the time to make the kind comment! Best regards, Mark :)

[@ajp_3391]

I have 2 questions: can I fit the turnigy trackstar motor the same way as you did in this video, And could you please list all of the parts needed to fit the motor? (I'm forgetful)

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi there - yes you can fit any other sensored motor in the same way as I show. You need: sensored motor sensor cable (from ESC to motor) 3 short lengths of electrical wire (the thicker the better, I used 13A mains cable) 3 bullet connectors I hope this information is useful! :-)

[@ajp_3391]

@@MarkBryanRC Thanks for the help! :-)

[@MarkBryanRC]

You are very welcome! :))

[@ajp_3391]

@@MarkBryanRC Does the turnigy trackstar motor come with a sensor cable?

[@MarkBryanRC]

Yes it does mate! The Tamiya sensored motors don't!

[@clutchcrusade]

Please help, about to buy trinity 13.5 t, Sensored brushless, can size 540. Will this work with tble Sensored esc?

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi there! I have fitted several Turnigy Trackstar 13.5 Sensored brushless motors to the Tamiya TBLE02s ESC, and all work very well, I have had no problems! Here is a link to my video where I show how to fit this motor to the ESC on my Konghead kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2bKippqp9OjgK8 I hope this will show you what you need to do! All the best, Mark :-)

[@51im]

Is there any reason why you didn't solder the ESC wires directly to the motor

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi there - good question! Yeah, I like to add the connectors to the motor so I can easily disconnect for cleaning and maintenance or if I want to swap motors for any reason. It just gives me that option. But soldering the wires directly to the motor is fine too! Best regards, Mr.shadey! :)

[@STEVOD313]

Hey I didn’t know u had a channel, I’m subbed now n left a like brotha 👍😎

[@MarkBryanRC]

That's great Stevo!!! - I'm really pleased you found my little channel, the like and sub are very much appreciated bro! :))

[@DC_Cha_Cha_Cha]

Hey Mark, I was wondering... do you use Leaded solder? It seems to be the popular choice, but nowhere seems to sell it now, other than eBay :) Thanks dude!

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi Paul - yes I do use leaded solder mate - miles better than the new lead-free rubbish! I used to work as an electronics engineer back in the day, and managed to "acquire" a roll big enough to last 30 years!!! If you can get it with a multicore flux, it's ace! Worth a try :))

[@DC_Cha_Cha_Cha]

Mark Bryan RC Haha nice! Is the flux the Rosin core I’ve seen some mention? Thanks! (I also just realised I asked a similar question on the Facebook groups this evening, although that was more of a ‘what stuff do I need please help!’ Question :D I’ve just ordered one of those 13.5t motors from eBay, should be a laugh and good to learn soldering with ! Thanks 🙏

[@MarkBryanRC]

Yes, dude, the Rosin core is the one yo go for! Oooh, love those 13.5T motors, as you know, you will have a lot of fun with that - good luck with the soldering, make sure your tip is nice and hot!!! All the best, mate! :)

[@DC_Cha_Cha_Cha]

Mark Bryan RC Thanks for the advice! I’ll let you know how I get on! :)

[@brentg2642]

what are you adjustable arms called instead of the plastic ones?

[@MarkBryanRC]

Turnbuckles

[@michaellohn4262]

Hi, can i use my old NiMH akku with an brushless motor?

[@MarkBryanRC]

Yes, you can, no problems! 😎👍

[@avinashramlucken6441]

Hi I have the same esc but I’m having a problem.it’s in a brushed motor.I put a 2s battery on it when I play with it after 2/3 mins it’s cuts off the red light blinks I have to switch it off back on to play.can u plz help

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi Avinash. The ESC is shutting off due to overheat protection. The ESC is getting too hot. It is not designed for a 2s battery, but it could be shutting down due to excess load from the motor also. You should not use a motor with less than 23 turns. Also, running on deep grass or mud, or running with a large pinion or bigger than stock wheels (high gearing) will also overload the motor and cause ESC overheating. You could also fit a fan to the ESC to keep it cool. I hope this helps, Best regards from Mark.

[@avinashramlucken6441]

@@MarkBryanRC ok thank you so much.I’m in South Africa.Where are

[@avinashramlucken6441]

Sori wat battery can I use on it

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi I'm in England, UK

[@MarkBryanRC]

You should use NiMh 7.2v But you can use a 2S LiPo, but you need a LiPo cut-off alarm because the TBLE02 does not have a LiPo cut-off. Without the cut-off you will damage both the ESC and the battery. Please don't use the 2S battery without Cut-off protection because there is danger of fire!!! Best wishes from Mark

[@Freddie44utube]

What motor and wire are you using where did you get it and how much was it ? I was told by my local model shop you can’t use anything but Tamiya motors on the TBLE 02S speedo judging by your video this doesn’t seem to be the case!

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi Neil Fastfreddie Anderson ! Thanks for the comment mate! The motor was off eBay - from a Chinese seller - only £20 - if you search for brushless motors I'm sure you will find it - not a named brand though. Since then I have used Turnigy Trackstar brushless motors from Hobbyking.com - very cheap and great quality - about £25 for the 13.5 turn and work really well with the Tamiya TBLE02s ESC. Don't believe what others say - the TBLE works fine with other motor brands - I have been using them for over 4 years with no problems at all in about 6 cars! Feel free to ask any other questions and I will try to help if I can! The wire is just from a standard 13 amp power cable, you find them on any electrical extension lead - works a treat and handles the power fine :-)

[@Freddie44utube]

Mark Bryan RC thanks for the quick reply and advice I found and ordered the same motor you used on amazon I’ll try a 13:5 t to start with. I’ve got a lot of cars to get up and running any idea what the ratio is between brushed and brushless. I was told 16t brushless is equivalent to a 21turn brushed any advice or comments.

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hmmm - difficult question, as we have to consider sensored or sensorless brushless! I'd say, as a starter, the advice is pretty good - brushless are much more efficient and use so much less power than an equivalent brushed motor but spin slower per turn (generally). So yes, a 21 turn brushed spins at about 22000rpm and you need a brushless 15 turn to spin as fast - but the efficiency of brushless makes a difference and makes the package a better prospect - longer battery life and longer motor life too! Anyway - brushless wins hands down!

[@Freddie44utube]

Mark Bryan RC I haven’t raced for about 15 years (got into helicopters) they only work with brushless but they are allowed to rev and sit at max rpm very little current draw. I’m very ill from lung disease so can’t get out as I use to so have decided to get all the old redundant cars up and running but don’t want to spend loads just need a hobby that’s on the bench not too much moving about I’ll get the boy to help with driving them 😉

[@MarkBryanRC]

Ahh - I got back into RC after a long break, and I too started by finding my old Tamiyas from the loft and set about getting them going again - I found it very rewarding to reinstate the cars and in a way quite therapeutic ! Sorry to hear about your poor health - hopefully you will enjoy the re-building as I did - a great way to focus the mind! Like you, I don't have a lot of cash to splash on this hobby - so I make, re-use and re-engineer most of my parts from spares or scrap - if you watch any of my other vids you will see what I mean. Please feel free to share any comments, observations and ideas you might come up with along the way - I'd be very interested to hear them mate!

[@tomr1107]

what is the lowest turn brushed motor you can use with that esc? the manual says nothing under 25 turn. I was looking to run a 17t

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi Tom - you are right, the TBLE-02 manual says the lowest you can use is a 25 turn Sport Tuned Tamiya motor. Bullshit! My friends and I have all used 21 turned motors from different manufacturers for a couple of years with no problems. The ESC is rated at 60 amps so check out the max current of the motor you are looking to fit. I think 17 might be pushing the limit - have a look at the Absima Thrust Eco 21T - it runs at 25000 revs compared to the sport tuned 19000 revs, and its about £10. I've used this with the TBLE and its just great!

[@MarkBryanRC]

Forgot to mention - you can run much lower turn motors when in brushless mode - Tamiya do a 10.5T motor to run with this ESC.

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thanks for the info mate - other viewers will be interested to know I am sure!

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hehe - glad you posted this extra information Philthy! So if anyone reads your comment above, I hope they then read this one too. I have been told by others that the TBLE-02s will easily run a 15 turn brushed with no overheating problems, just haven't tried it myself! Thanks a lot mate! :-)

[@MarkBryanRC]

More good info! You really have added to this thread - cheers mate!

[@millankumar9245]

What specific model of car is this?

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi Millan - this is a TT-02B and it uses the same chassis as the road going TT-02. Thanks for watching! :)

[@millankumar9245]

@@MarkBryanRC Thanks!

[@Laine8642]

Does this esc need the other sensor leads to run brushless?

[@MarkBryanRC]

The TBLE02s can only run sensored brushless motors, so yes, you need to plug in the sensor cable as shown in this video.

[@RCDEPENDANT]

I would've soldered the female plugs onto the motor and the male onto the esc wires, not that it matters either way really. Good job mate.

[@MarkBryanRC]

That's a good point! But yeah, it works so that's what really matters! Cheers mate! :D

[@slavenumber3460]

Can you share me a link with a brushless motor with the 3 wires that will make my car go 60+ miles ? Please 🙏

[@MarkBryanRC]

I'm sorry, but I don't know of a brushless motor that will make a Tamiya go 60mph+. The fastest I have only go 25mph! :)

[@simeonovdimitar7370]

25pinion, 68 spur. 65mm tyres with 45ah ESC and 3930kv motor goes with 50 km/h. I did hundreds of experiments.

[@MarkBryanRC]

@@simeonovdimitar7370 50kph sound about right for a Tamiya with that setup - good speed! :-)

[@simeonovdimitar7370]

@@MarkBryanRC I think this is very good setup . Doesn't stress the gears and the speed is quiet good for park driving or streets. Your videos and channel is TOP Mark !

[@MarkBryanRC]

@@simeonovdimitar7370 Yes, it is good to have more speed but not to stress the gears! Thank you very much for the nice words about my channel - much appreciated my friend! :-)

[@ericchristopher9037]

Nice video, but wouldn’t it be easier to solder the wires directly to the motor? Anyway, great tutorial mate!

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thanks very much, Eric! Yes, you are right, soldering the wires to the motor would have been easier, but I just wanted a way to quickly remove or swap motors if need be. Nothing wrong with soldering direct to the motor. All the best, cheers mate! :-)

[@ericchristopher9037]

No worries, I enjoyed the tutorial.

[@benmartin4489]

Great video lads. I'm planning on getting a suburu tt02. I Had one as a kid, it went into storage. It started playing up. Il route it out in the mean time, any help would be much appreciated.

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thanks Ben! The TT02 Subaru is a lovely kit to build - let me know what issues you have exactly, and I will definitely see if I can help! :)

[@benmartin4489]

@@MarkBryanRC cheers for thee reply, il let you know when it gets here. I will be getting the pro bundle.

[@MarkBryanRC]

Cheers Ben, cool you got the pro bundle - let me know if I can help :-)

[@flamehawk1895]

Can the differentials and clutch take 3s brushless power?

[@flamehawk1895]

Because I want to buy a new aluminium tt01 assembled chassis from eBay and install a brushless system

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi flamehawk189 - if you run a fast motor (i.e. 13 turns or less) and a 3S LiPo, I don't think the differentials will last long as all the gears in the TT01 and TT02 are plastic. I have heard that you can make the DF02 metal differential gears fit with a little filing down, but this then becomes more tricky and more expensive - a friend of mine fitted a 4300 kv brushless motor running on 2S LiPo's and stripped the TT02 plastic diffs in a couple of hours. There is no clutch to worry about in a TT01 or TT02. I hope this helps!

[@flamehawk1895]

Mark Bryan RC thank you so much probably the most helpful comment I've had 😉

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thanks flamehawk189 - You are very welcome! So glad you thought it was useful ! I will always try and answer any questions you have honestly - and if I don't know, I'll say that I don't know! By the way, I am running a TT02 with a Turnigy Trackstar sensored brushless motor and the standard Tamiya TBLE-02s ESC - this is pretty fast on 7.2v NiMh batteries and I have had no problems with the differentials or other gears. I have been running it regularly for over 2 years now - but I guess you could call the motor setup "mildly" quick! (but it is still MUCH faster than the stock setup). You can see it running here if you like to get an idea of the speed: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXzTe397mdSar5I

[@toptensviewerschoice5204]

What is the brushless motor limit on that esc?

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi Toby - the TBLE02s manual states that it will run the TBLM 10.5 turn brushless motor with a cooling fan fitted to the ESC. I have run the TBLE for many hours with a 13.5 turn motor with no overheating issues - hope this helps! :-)

[@camrowdrone6497]

I really enjoy soldering, but sometimes it drops down on my leg ,really hot 👍🏻

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hehe - well I must admit I never dropped solder on my leg! Yes it would be about 200 degrees! :))

[@Bunnytoes666]

Yah try arc welding above you and a drop of hot slag finds its' way from your chest to your junk to your calf down open overalls...you can feel it actually progressively cooling as it makes its' way through your skin from top to bottom! This all takes place in a second or three. Fun fun fun!

[@MarkBryanRC]

@@Bunnytoes666 Arrrggghhh! That sounds like torture! :)

[@Freddie44utube]

Got the brushless motor today got two problems first the sensor wire is tiny way to short and secondly the motor only works full throttle forwards it won’t work in reverse without spinning the spindle I think it must have a winding down

[@MarkBryanRC]

Sorry to hear of your troubles mate! First of all I need to ask you some questions before I can help: Exactly what motor did you buy and where from? What Tamiya are you fitting it in? Does it not increase in speed gradually - or is it full speed or nothing? So in reverse, you give the spindle a twist with your fingers and it goes? This does sound very strange and I have never encountered any of the issues you describe - let's see if we can sort it out :-)

[@MarkBryanRC]

First thing to make sure the ABC phase wires are correct!

[@Freddie44utube]

Mark Bryan RC I wired up how you described and it is progressive in forward but it needs full throttle to get it going them you can back it off it’s trying to work in reverse but just won’t start It’s looks the same one you bought 13;5 turn I’m using it on the TBLE 02 I’ve checked the resistance of the main winding they are all the same

[@Freddie44utube]

Mark Bryan RC exactly as you described more or less full or nothing seems very little power and reverse only it you give the spindle a flick

[@MarkBryanRC]

Well mate - sorry to say that the motor must be faulty - the TBLE is very reliable so I don't think the fault will be with that. If you bought it off ebay I would try for a refund - most good sellers will just give a refund and not ask for the motor back - very sorry this has happened to you - but stay with it mate - it will be worth it in the end :-)

[@kringlek0738]

What size is the Motor like in length and width?

[@MarkBryanRC]

It's a standard size 540 motor. :)

[@kringlek0738]

Thanks

[@jslots2]

If you used a little flux, your solder would flow better.

[@MarkBryanRC]

You could be right, but as you probably know the solder I used is a multi-core with flux inside the solder. :-)

[@clutchcrusade]

I meant Turnigy in my other comment

[@MarkBryanRC]

:))) Cheers!

[@crishneshell4136]

Will 17.5 work on this esc

[@MarkBryanRC]

Yes Crish - the blue motor I fitted to this car was a 17.5 - I have also run a 13.5 on the TBLE02s ESC with no problems.

[@ctbully]

In time it is gonna break off ! [6:59) Why, becoz you didnt put a thick gauge wire from the motor to the connector.

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi John. Well, you may have a point! But hey, after 4 or 5 years it's still going strong. It takes a lot to break a well-soldered joint! :)

[@Gernotrametsteiner-dl6ns]

❤👑🔥🏆😇♥️🤣🌞😊

[@MarkBryanRC]

Cheers 😎 🍻 😁👊👍🙏🙌👍

[@gehandx]

the brushless motor used in video is very weak, try some thing like Fantom V3 series, Reedy S plus

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hello - thanks for the comment! Yes, the blue motor is not very powerful, but it is ideal for my son. My Neo Scorcher has the Turnigy Trackstar 13.5T motor which I think is perfect for this RC! :)

[@gehandx]

Oh, I see , Turnigy Trackstar is a great motor, anyway I have never used it, used Fantom v3T 17.5T motors often, I reached 130 km/h on 4s, Fantoms runs very cool

[@MarkBryanRC]

Wow - that is a great speed for 17.5T, I will look out for the Fantom brushless motors, thanks for the tip! :)

[@gehandx]

Hi Mark , thanks for replies.that speed can be achieved only with 4s, Lot of people buy motors like 5.5T to 8.5 T to achive this speed,but they are only capable of 2S Lipo, 17.5T is slower but capable of handling up to 4S, it would be the same in the end. (17.5T on 4S = 5.5T on 2S) but I think 17.5T motor is more versatile than the lower turn system as it has a wide spread range of voltage. correct if I am wrong,

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thanks for the information - very interesting - I was not aware that a 17.5 could handle a bigger range of voltages. Good to know! Best regards from Mark... :)

[@tuffbadger7342]

yes that's right it wont bloody flow trust me i tried lol

[@MarkBryanRC]

Haha! It's a real pain! :))

[@wasawatrojratchadakorn8921]

*installs brushless* rip spur gear

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thanks for the comment, Wasawat Rojratchadakorn!!! I have installed brushless motors on 2 Neo Scorcher TT-02B's and have had no problems with the spur gear, differentials or any of the drivetrain - what brushless motor did you fit? I think you are correct, if you fit anything lower than a 13.5 turn motor, it WILL probably rip the spur gear or differential gears! :-)

[@wasawatrojratchadakorn8921]

Mark Bryan RC rlly? Im installing a brushless and preparing for paint tmr lol0

[@wasawatrojratchadakorn8921]

Mark Bryan RC yeh last time i installed a 9t brushless. Didnt go well lol

[@MarkBryanRC]

Wasawat Rojratchadakorn, 9t !!! Now I see why spur gear ripped! Far too powerful for only plastic gears! :D

[@MarkBryanRC]

Wasawat Rojratchadakorn -Both my Neo Scorchers have been running for a long time on brushless, 17.5T and 13.5T - you can see them running fast here : kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6XRnZman9Jrm6M You are installing brushless again? How many turns this time mate? More than 9t I hope!!! Good luck with the painting - I hope all goes well and you don't break anything when it is finished :D

[@frankinstein6456]

NO RUNTIME?? AWWWWW

[@MarkBryanRC]

Sorry, no! But you can see it running in some of my other videos! Cheers, Franklin! :O)

[@Otiesh]

Sensored ?? why not a Sensor-less motor

[@MarkBryanRC]

Sensored have better response, especially at lower speeds, plus it works with the standard TBLE Tamiya ESC. This is my preference. But sensorless is fine to fit if you want, especially if you are at full throttle most of the time! :-)

[@Otiesh]

Yeah, I actually enjoy much more on full throttle . I enjoy rally and I have seen most guys modify this car in several ways but it is so low and not good on gravel

[@salmenda]

That took 6 hours? Jesus christ i might want to stick with rtr

[@MarkBryanRC]

Sorry, Santiago Almendarez , but I have played the whole video back, and can't see where I said it took 6 hours! To fit the brushless motor took about half an hour - 30 minutes! The video is 18 minutes and I only cut out small parts of the fitting process. Sorry if there is anything misleading that makes it seem to take so long. Regards from Mark.

[@salmenda]

Mark Bryan RC im retarded. Wrong video!

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thank goodness that it was the wrong video - I was really worried that it was mine! Thank you very much for the reply, it was very good of you :))

[@salmenda]

Mark Bryan RC 4sure!

[@nidzdotnet76]

Nah that's a terrible way to connecting a motor. You would have been better off using some wire to connect it up.

[@MarkBryanRC]

Agreed, it's not everyone's cup of tea! But I must say, 5 years later on this is still working perfectly, so it ain't that bad! 😎👍

[@SpeccyMan]

Clean and properly tin the tip of your soldering iron. It is a bloody disgrace.

[@MarkBryanRC]

Thank you Nick B! Looking back, it was a little dirty, but the joints were good, no problems in 2 years of running this car. Thanks for the kind advice and friendly comment. :)

[@dangavin]

Will a 10.5 work for on road purposes?

[@MarkBryanRC]

Hi Dan - I have a 13.5 running with no probs off-road. The 10.5 should be fine, but I think I would follow Tamiya's advice and fit a cooling fan to the ESC if you are gonna stay with the TBLE02s.

[@dangavin]

Mark Bryan RC what fan

[@MarkBryanRC]

You can but the Tamiya ESC cooling fan but it's a bit pricey - search on ebay and you will find plenty of ESC cooling fans for only a few quid - they plug into your receiver's 5v socket to get power. You can run without one, but it does give a little safety and performance boost to keep the ESC cool.

[@dangavin]

Mark Bryan RC how do you attach it

[@MarkBryanRC]

Most of the fans come with a fitting kit!