HOW TO FIT SHOWER WALL BOARD INSTALL GUIDE - Tile Alternative

[@plumberparts]

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[@swarfegakid]

We’ve got shower boards pre fitted in our upstairs bathroom, but our shower mixer tap moves slightly in the holes, will they have some kind of seal to stop water getting behind the board? Keep up the great vids, cheers

[@KenGoesCruising]

What do you do if your walls are more than 8 feet high. Do you join boards or leave them short

[@ianm144]

A little hint I learnt when installing shower wall board @ £240 a sheet, especially in tight bathrooms and showers requiring many pipe holes through the boarding. Get a sheet of 4ft x 8ft x 4mm (or 6mm) MDF and prototype cutting the MDF to size and drilling the exact location of pipe holes first. You discover things like you can't get the boarding in the en-suite, as door is not big enough, so door frame had to be removed, location of pipes is not exactly where you thought they were as well as walls not being exactly right angles. As stated measure at least 4 times before cutting. Once all prototyped in MDF and all fitting correctly, transfer the measurements to the boarding and cut (new fine tooth blade recommended) and drill. Then bingo board fits 100% first time. The same sheet of MDF of course can be used multiple times, starting at biggest wall first and cutting down to small end walls etc.

[@CarnivoreJ]

Great tip thanks Ian, after measuring numerous times still haven’t got the bottle to cut me pipe holes! Was even thinking of putting boot polish on ends of pipe then offering board up to mark the back just to quadruple check ha, mdf template is a great idea, cheers, Jane. (Still doing the boot polish thing as well though)

[@Famous5s]

Love and MDF prototype!!!

[@suepersonic1]

Grate stuff !!! That makes perfect sense 🤗😁

[@kevinjackson5191]

I get there are plenty of differing qualities of panel, but anyone paying £240 per panel ought to have their a$$ removed. However, if you’re daft enough to pay that then yes a template board would be a good idea. Even cheaper panels if installed correctly with care, will last.

[@wgj4813]

Found video very useful as just about to cut and fit panels. Templates a good idea.

[@eazthitman]

I have done a few of these and normally i find the corner is never level or out of square. I use instastick (fast setting expanding foam filler, made for fixing plaster-board to walls) to fit the bar and the panels. It makes leveling the center bar much simpler and provides a good solid fix in about 10 mins. You can just hold it level with your hands until it sets. Again expanding foam will also take up any large gaps in the panels due to uneven/un-level walls. In severely un-square walls, stud-work is needed to square it up but the created external corners need to be made good.

[@Greebstreebling]

I have just installed a tray, panels and door etc. Shower panels seem an attractive idea and I fell for it. I thought soldering the copper pipe was going to be the tough part, but it's easy by comparison with the precision with which you have to work to ensure a) the walls are flat, b) the walls are vertical c) if you get b right the corner is vertical. Then there's the horizontal bit. You need that tray to be level - not just close, but level. All the above is an absolute requirement, since if it isn't, the panels won't fit the horizontal and vertical channels. I never liked tiling, but I like shower panels far less. At least with tiling you can make minor adjustments between tiles.

[@snapperpaul3]

Just come across this video as I'm looking to install panels on my remodel - but it will be 3 sides..... how do I get the back on in and get it water tight??

[@plumberparts]

Hi mate. Do the back one first. Don’t bother using the upright strips. Just seal properly with silicone.

[@iamanamadawn6719]

Hi James, after the flexible rubber fin on the tip of the sureseal snap-on cover trim 'relaxes' and is no longer capable of forming a pressure seal (against) the wall panel face, will the water streaming down the shower wall panel leak inside behind the snap-on cover trim, pond up and eventually blow the panel?

[@atharkamal5116]

I wish every plumber like this guy very lively and pleasant happy person keep it up man in your real life as well

[@mucmcmuco2566]

The Bradley Walsh of plumbing.

[@miananwar8675]

What a beautiful way of explaining, no boring stuff or sloppy faces. I loved it and learnt a lot too. Thanks

[@TheDoosh79]

Looks like good stuff, I bet it's fun on wonky old walls though in older houses!!

[@MrDaiseymay]

I used old but flat plywood panels, and wedged in any bits of wood to level it up, then put the new stuff on. OR, just use large dollops of Glue, and press the panels slowly in, while using a plumb line and long spirit level, to keep it upright and level.

[@garyfardon8841]

Level is a horizontal check. When it is upright it is called plumb.

[@droitwichblue]

Great vid James as always .... I want to use the walls with the profile but how do you square off the profiles with fitting an enclosure? Would you cut short the profile to fit inside the enclosure profile or would you run the showerwall profile through the enclosure profile?

[@bobbojones8157]

Been a plumber all my life and now retired, but this and all his videos are enlightening and helpful. Keep it up.

[@plumberparts]

Bobbo jones cheers bro!

[@chrissy212e]

@@plumberparts Thank you for this informative video can you do this on a concrete wall around a bath and window. Thank you very much.☺

[@fathimashah7948]

What did you mean when you said therr are only e.posisble ways of leaks happening ​@@plumberparts

[@Philsy1845]

Very good video James your skill and experience makes the job look easy! Lots of clear info and sensible advice thanks!

[@jed2055]

Sorry James, it may be only my ear but you sound just like Baldrick. Definitely same area of country. I hope you have plenty of cunning plans. Cheers and keep safe from Oz

[@plumberparts]

BOOM BOOM BOOM!

[@Funkstar124]

Bit of advice on removing the peel coat. As the showerwall board is a laminate product and only 0.5mm to 0.7mm thick and liable to defect or damage - (not often, but sometimes) so the peel coat is supposedly only there for transport purposes. Strictly speaking, you should take the peel coat off before fitting the board just in case you detect a fault in the laminate. Saves a lot of hassle rather than doing it last. "I.D." Surfaces btw is referring to International Decorative surfaces who deliver throughout the U.K. and who have the best range of Showerwall, various flooring, worktops, Hot and normal taps in the U.K. There is a neat "Visualiser" on their site where you can run through all the different decors available in Shower wall that show them in different bathroom configurations so you can make a more informed choice. Great Video btw.

[@michalprzysocki9759]

Is it possible to build a shower niche within the panels or is it not advisable due to possible leakages? I’m thinking about making one from the leftover panel (Multipanel), but a bit worried that it may not be possible to seal it properly. Any tips? PS. Your videos are making diy so much simpler. As always, really appreciate.

[@BinarySecond]

Done my first ever bit of plumbing this weekend. Glad I come here to get the advice that I need to look after my home

[@Jmac178]

3 sided shower - install sequence- James what is your recommendation, would you check plumb, glue one corner to wall, then install a panel with corner trim already fitted to edge ? or fit both corners and bend panel to fit ?? interested to hear your experiences. Thanks great videos

[@coupofmentality3417]

Here's how you know it's a tradesman. He says "be sure to read the instructions.:" Then he says, "be sure to ignore this part of the instructions." This is the most important lesson any of us can give. The engineers never install their products before they write the instructions.

[@redrunnige]

I've yet to see an installation video that shows fitting two panels along a bath.

[@paulbackhard6315]

That’s because it’s shower panel the clue is in the name

[@terminatorsquarepants2874]

I fit these regularly, most of the time they are bent like bananas because they haven't been stored flat and getting them upstairs and into a small bathroom is always fun. I use foam adhesive because it allows for for undulations in the walls of most bathrooms and sets quick.

[@deadfool3344]

Gator glue?

[@johnconner6446]

Hiya what type of adhesive foam you use? Would something like SOUDAL ADHESIVE FOAM from screwfix do the job? I'm hoping to panel onto previously painted tiles (I have cleaned them thoroughly). I was going to use grip fill but the wall bows in so I need to fill the dip. Wondering if this foam will fill that in? Cheers

[@terminatorsquarepants2874]

@@johnconner6446 yes soudal adhesive foam is fine, follow the instructions on the can, don't stick it back too soon after spaying or it doesn't work.

[@johnconner6446]

@@terminatorsquarepants2874 cheers mate. Do you mean apply it to the wall, leave it a bit so it goes tacky and expand, then put the panel on?

[@terminatorsquarepants2874]

Apply it to the back of the board, if you want to make you life easy install PVC wall panels the 250mm wide ones they are much easier to fit and cheaper and use normal panel adhesive.

[@Greebstreebling]

Realy informative and useful, thanks. I read the showerwall installation guide, but video is a different and effective way of learning. Nice.

[@paulstephens9274]

Using 5mm composite panels onto durarock. Wall surface slightly uneven max 1/4” so what’s simple manner of shimming low spots. Either utilize thin plastic vertical shims or use a skim coat a leveling patching compound like speed set or Ardex leveler. Also Should I use waterproof membrane like aqua defense or redguard- if so which construction adhesive be best to utilize

[@engchoontan8483]

I think it will be easier to maintain = balcony-walls, parapet-walls, ... don't-know(fire-safety, oil-safety,... ratings) about kitchen-walls, ... planter-box area.sss with shower tray, ...

[@listoferich]

Hello James, How about when you have two corners? How you slide in to when you have no space on the other side?

[@the_ravens_room]

This is so much better than the panel company video! Thank you.

[@tonybaloney4195]

Bradley Walsh’s younger brother

[@samrix5793]

Hi, I was wondering how Showerwall panels compared to PVC panels? I'm looking to do update a small bathroom with these and thought about installing these floor to ceiling then install the bath, or is it better to install bath first and install the panels on the bath? Thanks in advance

[@MrDaiseymay]

I chose these panels 25 yrs ago, never had a problem. My new system was a double Shower Cabinet, on a raised Heavy weight Tray, that had a raised lip all round. Sealing was easy.

[@marinaweston8986]

I am looking at the showerwall products - e.g. SWQNW03 It's 2440 H x 600 or 1200 W Can this product be installed horizontally - i.e. instead of going from floor to ceiling, can I fix it running from left to right (so that the height becomes the width) above a bath?

[@phillipbridge5009]

Prefer to watch whole video with you lying down...so relaxing!

[@tundearoun2267]

10.40 This guy is jokes 😂😂 Question, are shower screens installed before or after the shower panels have been installed?

[@WashbourneWed]

Great vid, ( subbed) looks really good , great presentational skills and editing.Cheers

[@Oommaarr2890]

Do you do private work in Cranleigh village? We would love to have our shower and bathroom done by the professionals......

[@sweetcarefulheart]

how often to re silicon the edge to maintain waterproofing?

[@paulcrawford5153]

Can you explain to me why internal corners of wetwall outside the shower area are the same as the bloody things in the corner of the shower (only a 3mm overlapp of the trim). Thats just insane!

[@victorwatson1762]

Hi . Love your channel. But how the hell do I install these and cut out for pipes accurately? It's one thing I always fail at and its a costly and totally brain burning annoying crock of crap... aging diy er.

[@robertdorrian3883]

Hi, Great Vid. One question, how would you install a shower screen/door with the bottom profile in place. This would prevent the frame from sitting against the wall flush. Cheers.

[@terrygraham3476]

I’d love an answer on this…. Just about to fit my new shower with showerwall

[@estellewatts3761]

Great video. Thanks. Do you have anything to show how to fit a shower niche into shower wall panels?

[@ScoreGuru123]

Can these panels be stuck directly on to tiles?

[@plumberparts]

Yes in most cases.

[@sidhusukhdev3669]

Hi my friend I want to install pvc penal in bathroom. But my wall is cement blocks is it possible install directly on cement blocks?

[@SNIFFMYBADGER]

Does anyone know if these boards are strong enough to attach the enclosure to? I've got an enclosure that will need to be drilled in to the wall. I know the base will be holding most of the enclosure weight, just not sure the boards are strong enough to hold the sides

[@nigelbenn4642]

Really find these videos funny as f@#k! Everyone seems to have a bathroom the size of a Belfast shipyard! So easy in that environment

[@ausielad1]

What's the best way to install a shower nitch, using that wallboard, ? waterproofing is the problem.

[@Original-monkeyboy]

Can this panels get glued onto plaster board or does the plasterboard need a protective membrane coating like aqua seal first

[@Growlerinthebush]

I glued them direct to new plaster been in now three years not shifted. It was a question I tried to get an answer to and didn't so and just went head and did it. If you are fitting a thermostatic shower make sure that your measurements are absolutely bob on otherwise you could have problems.

[@willling8003]

If Ian Poulter fitted showers ..........

[@TaitsoTheK1ng]

Do you only need to use bottom profiles when you’re installing a shower, can the rest of the bathroom be done without them?

[@beachcomber4785]

What happened to fixing to shower tray, as mentioned as an inclusion here?

[@peteborkowski9729]

Hi mate just watched this video and found this very helpful, with useful tips from a expert. In fact would you like to fit ours? Only thing we have its a sloping top which I don't feel so comfortable doing. Like you say you only get 1 chance when cutting the boards.Nice one mate Pete.

[@turpintravels2368]

Pissed walls 😣😣😣😣 make this hard especially when the customer doesn’t want to get in a plaster to sort them out

[@MrX-ff9wd]

Very useful and detailed video. 👌 so simple to follow with patience. All depends on the space you have in order to make it easy. Mine was hard to bring panel into tight space so I had to trim it accordingly to slide it in upwards only by doing it in a angle would be hard to rotate it up after. Clever idea on edge notch very useful 👌 top marks overall for the video 😊

[@vinparaffin6082]

Hopefully somebody from Wickes will watch this regarding storing products FLAT!

[@dillsplosion5334]

I heard a rumour that Wickes once sold a straight bit of wood

[@plumberparts]

You know mate!

[@davidmccormick4319]

James Philip Mason but it was just a rumour.

[@paulthomas3841]

Great, Thank you for showing us how to the job, I Wish it was out in 1980's when I my bathroom,

[@plumberparts]

HAha! Unlucky bro!

[@bathone7799]

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[@TheMatthewbalfour]

What kind of screws are you using to fix into the wall (tiles)?

[@gilbertlufc]

Brilliant video as ever. Definiteley installing this system in my new en-suite. Much tidier than tiles.

[@lescowdell3811]

Good luck.

[@thespecialist7]

Dude, I have plasterboard walls. Some tiled. And wanting to stick some wall panels to them. Do I prime or use pva on the wall first before sliconing the panels on to them. Thank you Great videos. I have a channel to showing building videos. Get in touch

[@blameusa7082]

ah fk, ive gotta go do a customer install in 1 hr, all i have is this info : /

[@daz23100]

I thought you have to tank the walls in a wet room??

[@kevinjackson5191]

Been looking all over the web to find a video that deals with installing panels and beads into a 3 walled shower. Not the easy to do 2 walls. How do you go about installing a panel and the internal beads on each end onto the back wall?

[@blackb1ade]

I had that same issue first time I did it. In short, you do them (internal corner profiles) one at a time. The first one is pretty simple and obvious as per above (taking care with regard to any pipework/concealed valve holes that might require very slight overcutting to allow for the 5mm sidewards push into the corner profile). Basically the key is to fit the back panel (of the U shaped recess) AND the second corner profile all at the same time. Just prep and dry run it all until you're happy with how you'll hold it together and manage it all in one go. Then get it all prepped adhesive wise, sili seal the inside of the corner profile that will sit against the panel you're fitting, squash it onto the side of the panel and hold it in place as you then push the whole thing into the recess. Then obviously the last panels a doddle, much as the first .

[@gregoryrovira7219]

@@blackb1ade Great info! I have a window right in the middle if one of the walls. Can these be used?

[@blackb1ade]

@@gregoryrovira7219 don't see why not, you can do it with tiles so no reason you can't with a panel. Occurs to me that it would be more difficult to do than (smaller) tiles though. Have to be very careful measuring and cutting if it's in the center of a panel area and must also consider the possibility of slight offset due to the silicone sealant in the corner profile - need to not overfill as it does not compress much at all so will not fully push the full 5mm into the recess of the corner profile. I'd be inclined to leave some over cut all the way round then trim to final aperture dims once finally in place. I'd also (as with tiles) have the window recess pieces (assume you'll panel into/around the whole window recess? Otherwise lot more opportunity for seal failures) overlap the wall panel on all sides. Tbh I wouldn't want to use in such a scenario as one of the huge advantages of the panels is that you only end up with 3 or 4 potential seal failure points. Panelling around and into a window (or shelf) recess introduces a lot more. Up to you of course!

[@gregoryrovira7219]

@@blackb1ade Thanks for taking the time to answer my doubts!

[@Guide504]

How to seal in damp and mould. How about ripping out the old shower completely and do what needs to be done.

[@immers2410]

I ripped out a similar system after 6/7 years and there was no sign of moisture/mould behind the board-probably because it was installed correctly!

[@davebradberry5879]

Loving your plumbing tips and fixes James, Question if you were joining boards are they tongue and groove do you put a teeny bit of silicone in too? My shower wall is abt 1.5m so 2x panel widths needed there and 2x more for the sides, hopefully the cut offs will extend the side walls.dont want to waste it,, Hold tight indeed ! Dave up in Stamford

[@Bunkham]

Just noticed you've got ceiling cladding / panels whatever they're called installed, is that going to be covered in a future video?

[@plumberparts]

I'm covering the floor panels in a later video, but the ceiling ones aren't really 'plumbing' videos and I'd probably get a load of internet hate if I covered them in a seperate video! I'll do a Q and A about them later this week live on the channel instead!

[@Bunkham]

@@plumberparts That's great, cheers!

[@1922johnboy]

Algorithms

[@AngelaBall-yy5fc]

I know You're a professional, but please get yourself a rail saw. I've worked closely with about ten chippies over the years and three of them have tips or half fingers missing. £600, are your fingers worth this much. Mate I cringed when I seen you cut that board. It only takes one momentary lapse of concentration.

[@footlong4769]

I agree, I had this problem and it cost me, can't quite put my finger on what happened 😂

[@thecitysurfer]

Hi James, is this suitable for a brick surface in an old house?

[@plumberparts]

Yes mate fine. Just make sure you use loads of yummy glue!

[@sandrarobinson6198]

Hi do you fit these boards before shower tray or after , down on to shower tray.

[@Smartsparky]

I went to challenge this myself. Nervous!

[@willrobinson4089]

How did you go?

[@fayahmad9063]

Will Robinson he died

[@cuezed]

Great video and very informative. Can these panels be attached directly onto plasterboard?

[@IJHougfhton]

its great but 8x4 sheets are a twat to get upstairs or around tight staiwells??

[@morrisonmeister]

Great Vid, Circular saws are designed to create a self clamping force when cutting, for this reason best side of material should be facing the ground, to avoid chipping/splintering best to use a blade with straight teeth (Zero Degree Hook Angle ak.a teeth in line with blade not sticking out either side) that ideally has 80 or 90 teeth on the blade. Keep up the informative vids buddy.

[@coover65]

Simon Le Bon went from Duran Duran to plumbing?

[@johnconner6446]

I think this every time

[@jimmcdonald6465]

Brilliant job and perfectly explained, thanks so much. I hope your cat is well recovered now James.

[@hayleymoorcroft7182]

Does the sealant need to be solvent free for pvc panels?

[@slugslugster9338]

Top and sides done but how do you trim at the bottom - ie as it comes down to a bath?

[@garytaylor9474]

Just had a shower tray and pvc panels fitted.. But the plumber didn't use the sealing strip around the shower tray siliconed the tray to the wall added the pvc boards and then siliconed around the shower tray where it meets the bottom of the boards.. Says he's never had a shower leak on his installations.

[@plumberparts]

To be fair if his silicone game is good then I’m not surprised. Siliconing is the best way to prevent problems on these systems.

[@cooltunesmadeeasy]

I'm.thinking less maintenance when cleaning, not dealing with all the grout lines from tiles?

[@TryThinkingAboutIt]

Thanks for the video. Maybe you could show us how to make the holes for and seal the shower attachments, please?

[@sarcasmo57]

I would shower there.

[@sibology8711]

Very clear, great personality, and confident.

[@mmack3286]

You should contact festool and see if they would give you one and you could make a video how to use one?!

[@emilyhops2566]

What if your electric shower breaks and you have to remove it to put a new one but the holes dont match, do you need a complete new shower thing?

[@norfolkngood8960]

Wish the housing association had watched this before fitting my wet room. It's so bad they've got to rip it out and start from scratch. Only after I threatened getting a report from a professional on their work. They're adamant that gaps between the panels you can fit your thumbnail in is normal and they just butted panels up against each other in corners and glued a strip over the top badly with different size gaps all the way up and down where it's clearly bowed

[@webdeveloper4742]

A perfectly prepared square mockup. Not really real world is it..indoor studio

[@plumberparts]

Thanks for the comment mate!

[@learnprogress6618]

No squiggles. Always they fall off. Squiggles not grip like blobs , amount of skirting boards falling off under it was squiggles, nice work their

[@mcmullg]

Where was this video 3 weeks ago when I was installing my own and KZbin had no good guides? 🤔 😡 😂 P's.. Try installing these in an ancient council house bathroom 😯

[@tommynorthwood]

Ancient Council?

[@Audiobook-Man]

Haha.. I just done mine today and mine didn’t slot into the corner fitting that easy... it was well hard.

[@davidw717]

When doing a walk in shower, aligning a tongue n groove panels, they never align (1 to 2 mm gap) between the two panels. Anyone know how to fix this so I'm not just cutting and sanding the grooves

[@callibucci8011]

Hi there! I'm installing panels on top of a hard-surface shower type (not tile, but some kind of engineered panel). It says in the instructions to clean the existing panels from soap scum, etc., OR to put two coats of water or oil-based sealer on the existing surface and let it dry completely before installing new panels. My question is, what kind of sealer do I need? Or is this redundant and the new panels will glue up fine without this sealer... Appreciate your help!

[@parenteseswebdev]

I have yet to find an real life application of using Multipanel for a quadrant shower enclosure that has been installed with the shower sealing kit. The shower sealing kit would have to be cut to allow the uprights for the shower to go up against the multipanel, so therefore the the panel sealing kit would need cutting to allow acess for metal uprights of shower enclosure...The board would also be short of the floor exiting the shower tray.

[@buczi82]

Hi Just view few videos and is two different ways. On first people first install panels after shower tray, on second, shower tray first after wall panels. What You recommended ? Thanx

[@websurfer1585]

In the real world of course, you are going to have to drill holes in it for plumbing etc, so very careful and thorough use of silicone will be needed to prevent leaks behind these points.

[@GandhiMann3000]

Would have helped if you had elaborated on the corners and where the capping meets the internal trim. Im never using these panels again, waste of time, I could have tiled the whole bathroom in the same time it takes to prep just the trims.

[@TheKingandrew1984]

Do you use the bottom profiles around baths too?

[@colindurrant7122]

The confusing thing for me is fidning the right tiype of shower board. There are so many out there of so many different types and prices. i don't want to pay through the roof but I also don't want to scrimp... but it's difficult to know if I am getting value for money. What boards do you recommend please?

[@leeroychang]

Stop slapping your tape back in! The little doofus on the end gets stretched! Poor little doofus.

[@danakropf1427]

Where can I purchase these cut to fit shower walls? I V? UD? Was mentioned in video, due to accent and rapid speech, I could not understand the brand name. Product item number info purchase info would be great. Thanks! Awesome video overall

[@HazelAndrewsAcupuncture]

Can I borrow you to put in shower panels for my mum? We are getting nowhere with professionals and I’m not sure my diy skills are quite there! Your videos give me hope…..

[@Lord_Joseph17]

the trims are ugly on big shower panels...I prefer a tight water sealed cubical so then all you need is a small silicone bead trim☝

[@0tispunkm3y3r]

My problem with these is the repeat pattern. It’s the same pattern on both walls, it doesn’t look right. Do you know if they supply boards of the same “material” but with different pattern? Also what is the texture like? Is it like flat and glossy or is there a texture that mimics the material it’s pretending to be?

[@MrX-ff9wd]

Pipe holes are a bit of headache but of measured and parked accurately with right size bit to cut hole you can't go wrong yet still check measurements a few times to make sure.