How to fix a defective bail that won't fully trip

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2nd Chance Tackle

2nd Chance Tackle

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@blaisetreinen1677
@blaisetreinen1677 6 ай бұрын
This nearly-five-year-old-video is still helping get those old reels working properly. Had this problem with many reels, but didn't know the fix. Now I do! Thank you Sir!
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 6 ай бұрын
Glad it helped! It is one of my most popular posts! Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis
@tbtaijeron
@tbtaijeron 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you partner, I was fiddling with my reel greasing, stretching the spring and figured parts were just worn. But with this video I have it working . 15 years with this reel
@MontyConley
@MontyConley Жыл бұрын
Dennis your video was exactly what I needed for fixing my reels. Thank you.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle Жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Thanks for the feedback - Dennis
@robedmund9948
@robedmund9948 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I kept thinking it was an internal problem with the spring mechanism. You're a lifesaver. (not for fish, though.)
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle Жыл бұрын
YW - thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis
@mikediaz3670
@mikediaz3670 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. Fixed 2 4500a baitrunners watching this.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. I appreciate the feedback. Please stay tuned for more to come - Dennis
@timolean5846
@timolean5846 6 ай бұрын
That was what I’m trying to fix
@jw228w
@jw228w 5 жыл бұрын
thanks so much for this bail video. never thought about bail being bent as a cause. always thought it had to be a bail spring. john
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment John. Please stay tuned for more to come - Dennis
@graysonhamza5235
@graysonhamza5235 3 жыл бұрын
a trick : you can watch movies on Flixzone. I've been using them for watching all kinds of movies lately.
@maximiliantommy1839
@maximiliantommy1839 3 жыл бұрын
@Grayson Hamza yup, I have been using flixzone} for since november myself :D
@konnorwestley8964
@konnorwestley8964 3 жыл бұрын
@Grayson Hamza yea, I've been using Flixzone} for since november myself :D
@bernieriegger7447
@bernieriegger7447 2 жыл бұрын
I watched this video, and went and fixed my bale wire. Bent it to release the tension and voila, it works again. Thanks for the great video.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped! Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis
@drfabulous77
@drfabulous77 4 жыл бұрын
THIS WORKED!!! My 25 year old Shimano Stradic bail was not always tripping (I've kept this smooth-as-silk workhorse in great condition and LOVE it) ....I was hunting on ebay to track down a spring....and came across this. It was almost an inch out ...thanks for this 100% effective fix!
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching. The first time I figured it out wa truly an aha moment. Since then I've found so many that I have fixed with the simple process. I'm glad it worked for you. Best wishes - Dennis
@backonthebenchreels
@backonthebenchreels 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video Dennis. I took your advise and looked at my Mitchell 406 again and yes you are right. Bent bail wire. And the new one that I bought also needed to be adjusted which I never would have thought. I just learned another valuable lesson from you! Thank you and stay safe!
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. There is a geometry to these things and anything out of alignment causes a problem. Best wishes - Dennis
@wilbertbenjamin9928
@wilbertbenjamin9928 Жыл бұрын
Good job fixing that ya your right I bought a reel that is all that was wrong with is easy fix got the reel for 5 dollars
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great purchase!
@thebigfishmk61
@thebigfishmk61 3 жыл бұрын
In Five minutes after watching this video fixed my Daiwa Kastor 2000 and 5000 reels, in 4 minutes, Big Thanks 👍
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Glad it helped - Dennis
@poncerobinson279
@poncerobinson279 3 жыл бұрын
You just saved me the repair costs on 3 reels! Thanks for the video!
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@weedeater64
@weedeater64 4 жыл бұрын
Don't know why this video popped into my feed, been watching a lot of fishing videos but no fixing videos, but I needed exactly this for an old Shakespeare I have. Isn't 100% but it made a definite big improvement. Thanks.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and subscribe if you would like to see more. I work on all types of reels and show how to take them apart and Repair each in a step by step process. On your bail, keep playing with the geometry and I'm sure you will get it to work better all the time. Best wishes - Dennis
@richardjackson3939
@richardjackson3939 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this, makes total sense, I'll try this on my Shimano bait runner, then all I need to figure out is how to stop the drag jamming.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis
@harrisonmantooth3647
@harrisonmantooth3647 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing another informative video Dennis. I have experienced this exact same problem before. Had I known at the time what the problem was and, the quick fix, I'd most likely still be using that reel. Thanks again for educating me (us) on how to keep our tackle running smoothly. Stan
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 5 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. Please stay tuned for more to come - Dennis
@joshstaley7459
@joshstaley7459 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to say thank you sir, my son and I both had malfunctioning Presidential reals in through your video I was able to repair both
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that this helped. Best wishes - please stay watching - Dennis
@bradyoung7440
@bradyoung7440 2 жыл бұрын
Great Advice! You help me get a non functional reel into a smooth running one.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help! Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis
@owjbehdobw4711
@owjbehdobw4711 2 жыл бұрын
This video fixed my Penn Battle 3 after I guess I bent the bail wire when I was servicing my reel. It's such an easy fix, I felt stupid after.
@williamlott7612
@williamlott7612 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation; simple and to the point. Thanks. Darlington, SC
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the feedback - Dennis
@drirvyjones
@drirvyjones 4 жыл бұрын
Dennis I thank you... your video helped me so much.. I looked for hours for replacement parts and how to videos but yours was exactly what I needed.... THANK YOU...
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Sometimes the fix isn't what you think it is! Please stay tuned. Wishing you tight lines - Dennis
@markfraser1000
@markfraser1000 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dennis for your superb video. Ive been having problems with one of my spinning reels and thanks to you I have fixed the issue. Thank you
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help. Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis
@andrewparslow9141
@andrewparslow9141 Жыл бұрын
just got someone comeing round to buy 2 reels of me on marketplace i was a bit worried got that problem on both reels followed your video both working good now great video
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle Жыл бұрын
Happy to help! Thanks for the note - Dennis
@avoidsroids
@avoidsroids Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dennis, that little work just saved on of my favorite reels.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it has a 2nd Chance - Thanks
@PJ77ful
@PJ77ful 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome fix. Took less than 2 minutes. Fixed my son's reel. #ProudMom
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Way to go! You should be proud! - Dennis
@rayp450
@rayp450 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dennis, I always search for solutions to problems on your site first! Problem solved.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help! Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis
@bigrich6750
@bigrich6750 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing knowledge and experience! Thank you! Watching every video you’ve made. Please keep them coming.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Well if you watch every one (400+) you will be a busy guy! Thanks for watching and for your feedback - Dennis
@Reusster1403
@Reusster1403 5 жыл бұрын
Dennis your videos are great! Helped me a lot with rebuilding and maintaining my grandfather’s reels to continue the fishing traditions!!
@tiggerkiller1
@tiggerkiller1 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for making this video. It saved me from buying a new reel !
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help. Best wishes for great fishing - Dennis
@willknox9544
@willknox9544 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this information. I am a born tinkerer and I do reel repair as a hobbyist. I find your channel very helpful. Also, I just realized you are in the next town over. Kind of funny how I stumbled on your channel when you are only about 2 miles from me. lol.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
That is funny. You are welcome to stop by once this pandemic thing goes away - Best wishes - Dennis
@am_greg25
@am_greg25 4 жыл бұрын
Hours of frustration, solved by 30 seconds of bending the bail back to shape. Thks
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome - please stay tuned for more to come - Dennis
@brycewallace6941
@brycewallace6941 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this informative video. Now I'll try fixing my son's reel.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Please let me know if it does the trick. Make sure the bail spring is good before you start bending the wire - Best wishes - Dennis
@brycewallace6941
@brycewallace6941 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dennis, it turns out I had the fishing line on the wrong side of the bail wire. We're new to spinning rods, and although the bail wire wasn't faulty (human error instead), your video helped me to understand the mechanism. Thanks again for this helpful video - my son has already caught three fish and is enjoying what I imagine will become a lifelong hobby.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update. I am glad you got it working. Best wishes - Dennis
@milestoneprofile5387
@milestoneprofile5387 4 жыл бұрын
love this guy. saved so many of my reels. appreciated and recommended to all my fishing pals. godless
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words. Stay tuned for more to come! Dennis
@davechristopher2670
@davechristopher2670 3 жыл бұрын
That helped me so so much thank you VERY MUCH from the UK. All I need too do know is the 1 screw ont bail arm where your line does and you open it up and it has the washer and bearing so I can clean it too let the line run free. But the screw won't come loose any ideas that I could do too get a screw loose please, none of screwdrivers will work they just round it off???
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave. Glad it helped. Thanks for watching and for the note - Dennis
@c3h84ever
@c3h84ever 4 жыл бұрын
Thats it!! After many vids that didn't help, I found yours, perfect!! Thank you very much
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. Sometimes it is the easy one that is overlooked. Best wishes for great fishing. Please stay tuned to my channel - Dennis
@jamesreynolds2686
@jamesreynolds2686 3 жыл бұрын
Again nice 1 Dennis you’ve fixed another 1 of my reel probs thank you
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped! Time to take it fishing - Best wishes - Dennis
@anthonycaradonna3172
@anthonycaradonna3172 Жыл бұрын
Great videos you’ve helped me a lot with my old peen reels and Mitchell Garcias
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle Жыл бұрын
Glad to have helped. Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis
@captdavethompson6273
@captdavethompson6273 4 жыл бұрын
As others have stated, thank you for this simple fix. It worked well on my Penn Battle II. 👍 David
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. Thanks for watching - Dennis
@raulcolmenero
@raulcolmenero 4 жыл бұрын
I have the same reel!!!!!!!!
@jimsheldon3738
@jimsheldon3738 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dennis for your insight and skills!
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis
@geraldkeever427
@geraldkeever427 3 жыл бұрын
Thanx boss🤝 It worked like a charm. You got a new subscriber.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub and for watching - Best wishes - Dennis
@Black-Opal
@Black-Opal 7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I have a Quantum SE1 ultralight in which the bail stopped tripping. Instead of unscrewing the bail wire by where the roller is, I just re-bent the wire on the opposite side of the roller with the screw in place, and the bail started tripping again.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 6 ай бұрын
Glad to hear that it is back fishing again. Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis
@fmart3617
@fmart3617 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Your video helped me out with a cheapo reel i'm planning on giving to my nephew whose a green novice.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help. I hope you will be joining your nephew and showing him how to use the reel and catch a few fish too! Best wishes - Dennis
@fmart3617
@fmart3617 3 жыл бұрын
He enjoyed the new used fishing reel. It has no problems now. Recently however, I just bought them another used reel. It's a Daiwa Longcast graphite EL 9000x. It has the same issues. Unfortunately when I tried doing this repair it didn't work because the other side isn't fixed like most newer fishing reels. The wire is bent to go into the other end. So, it doesn't have that tension like newer reels. How should I go about fixing this reels bail wire that won't close?
@fmart3617
@fmart3617 3 жыл бұрын
@@2ndChanceTackle See my above post. Thank you
@kena.5934
@kena.5934 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was exactly my problem! I would have never thought of this, I assumed lube but I did this and it's fixed! Thank You!
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped! Thanks for the feedback and for watching - Dennis
@christopherjenkins2373
@christopherjenkins2373 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dennis! I am restoring an old Mitchell 402 Saltwater that had a bail issue where the wire was striking the handle on every 2nd or 3rd turn. Found the issue was that the entire bail had been bent backwards toward the handle direction. It took some very careful effort but it works fine now. I tried putting a 302 bail on it since the part is the same but I’ve got to get one of those Mitchell saltwater size tools. It’s a pain to do w/o one. I’ve got to put a new bearing in it. I was lucky that the set screws moved easily so I could get the old bearing out. It’s going to be a nice reel. If I understand it right a 402 is the high speed version of the venerable 302. It’s another Mitchell for my collection I have 10 now. Still want a 498 PUM someday. That’s the only Mitchell I want to add at this point. Have you ever worked on the auto-bail on a Mitchell Ottomatic. I have a beautiful 330. It’s a lot of fun to fish with it but a real pain to work on. This was a very interesting video!
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Yes - the 402 is the same size as the 302. The gearing is different. Be careful with the bearings. Almost every time you get a bail hitting the handle, it is because the bail wire has been bent. It is usually the result of the reel being slammed against something like a pier rail, boat deck, etc. Occasionally it is a bent handle causing the problem, so always check both - Dennis
@christopherjenkins2373
@christopherjenkins2373 4 жыл бұрын
@@2ndChanceTackle I have decided to replace the handle Thel old one had been repaired and I think may have gotten out of alignment. Anyway I want the reel as close a possible to it's original condtion. I'm getting the schematic to help with replacing the bearing. Thanks Denni!
@christopherjenkins2373
@christopherjenkins2373 4 жыл бұрын
@@2ndChanceTackle Dennis i know i've said this before but i continue to be very grateful for what you generously give on KZbin! I love my fishing reel hobby your videos and numerous responses have been a big part of it. I am very thankful!!!
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome. You can tell I enjoy doing this and I am grateful for those who watch and enable me to continue. Thanks again - Dennis
@christopherjenkins2373
@christopherjenkins2373 4 жыл бұрын
2nd Chance Tackle I look forward to every video you post. I admit I don’t work with conventional reels anymore but they still interest me. You seem to approach working on these reels almost like I approached playing the organ all those years. I was a concert organist giving recitals and dedicating new instruments. With my eye problems I can’t do that anymore so I took up collecting and restoring fishing reels after I retired. As always, only practice makes perfect! (And patience!)
@jod1113
@jod1113 4 жыл бұрын
Worked perfectly, thank you for saving me time, money and frustration.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching. Please stay tuned for more to come - Dennis
@chriscalle3346
@chriscalle3346 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to get rid of my old Mitchell 300, but this fixed it! Thanks!
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! Now your reel has a 2nd Chance - Best wishes - Dennis
@johnphale
@johnphale 4 жыл бұрын
You just helped me fix my reel. Thank you
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help. Thanks for watching and for your feedback - Dennis
@junelljohnh6981
@junelljohnh6981 3 жыл бұрын
It worked the first time. THANKS!
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis
@mikeroggio3340
@mikeroggio3340 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much for your informative and helpful video. I always simply assumed the problem was due to worn bail springs. What grease and oil do you like to use for your repairs and general maintenence? Thanks again
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. I use Penn Precision reel grease and oil, but any fishing reel oil or greases will do. Just make sure they are for fishing reels not household or automotive applications - The Penn grease and oil is generally available online as a combination pack that includes the 2 ounce oil and a small grease pack - Dennis
@albionlion1964
@albionlion1964 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Dennis. Now works perfectly🙂
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. Best wishes - Dennis
@berniehaynes7640
@berniehaynes7640 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video. I appreciate the help.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped - Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis
@unholystrike84
@unholystrike84 4 жыл бұрын
Fixing that bent wire immediately fix the issue. Thank you!
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. Please stay tuned for more to come - Dennis
@russellwalsh7073
@russellwalsh7073 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, My reel completes the trip except at one specific spot in the rotation. I am assuming the the mal-function is in the trip plunger? Very low use Pflueger Arbor, very nice reel and I don't mind tripping it manually. Unfortunately , I cracked the rotor trying the repair from this video,but it still works. Trying to decide if it's worth it to buy a new rotor and try to fix it as good as new.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
The one point where it does not trip is likely at the base of the ramp where the most leverage is needed to flip it. It is not a defect and there is nothing you can do there. Simply note that point and set your bail after it. If you cracked the rotor, crazy or super glue an epoxy may help keep it together - Dennis
@gamehog2696
@gamehog2696 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dennis. I have a 710 with that problem, gonna give it a go.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
I just got another Shimano in with the same issue. A bent wire transcends brand name. It should help - Dennis
@mikeheffernan4723
@mikeheffernan4723 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again another great video I need to do this to my penn captiva 2000
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
You can do it! Best wishes - Dennis
@arasali6001
@arasali6001 4 жыл бұрын
Does this go for new reels too? Is worth taking a look at a brand new reels an look at the bail and tweek it so it is perfect?
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
If you have a new reel with a bail trip problem, I would send it back to the manufacturer to cover under warranty. If you bent the bail wire on the new reel, then that is probably not covered and yes, you can use this technique to get it to work again Dennis
@pointblankokc
@pointblankokc 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Very helpful.....
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis
@raftonpounder6696
@raftonpounder6696 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. I was about to replace the spring. Thank you!
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Glad it helped and thanks for watching - Dennis
@springteen3743
@springteen3743 5 ай бұрын
Nobody had made a video about spinning reels that get stuck due sand while surfing fishing. How can you prevent that from happening?🙏
@jeffbodean570
@jeffbodean570 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks this helped my reel and it needed a good cleaning
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help>. Please stay well and stay watching - Dennis
@harrysantiago545
@harrysantiago545 3 жыл бұрын
Nice thanks for teaching me...🙋‍♂️🙏
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure 😊. Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis
@Glennmc7
@Glennmc7 3 жыл бұрын
I have two Lews speed spool reels both the same model, but the bail on one reel is hard to flip over while the other is easy so do you have any suggestions on a fix like modifying a part on the reel.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
It may be a bent bail wire. watch this video and see if it helps kzbin.info/www/bejne/nH2rcmOrib17gLM. Dennis
@zuraizizarakikenpachi6612
@zuraizizarakikenpachi6612 4 жыл бұрын
How about bail arm not close properly sir??? Many clearance when close bail arm...
@wolfiezane637
@wolfiezane637 2 жыл бұрын
Genius...I guarantee you some of them scholars at university wouldn't figure that out in a week... Brilliant 👍
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 2 жыл бұрын
Wow - thank you and thanks for watching - Dennis
@craigjones4979
@craigjones4979 3 жыл бұрын
BRILLIANT FIX
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and for watching Craig. Best wishes - Dennis
@bvang09
@bvang09 2 жыл бұрын
Sir, I hope to find you in good health. I have a shimano ci4 plus. I’m wondering why I can’t hear the clicking noise when the bail wire is in operation. The spring is in there but no clicking sound.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 2 жыл бұрын
It may be dried grease or dirt on the click tongue that attaches to the spring. Try a Spray it with penetrating oil to free that lever
@Slaughterhousesean87
@Slaughterhousesean87 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I couldn’t figure out what was going on with an old Penn 716z that my grandpa gave me
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped - Please stay well and stay watching - Dennis
@AllenD1986
@AllenD1986 4 жыл бұрын
Worked perfectly. Thank you!
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching - Dennis
@connorking7785
@connorking7785 4 жыл бұрын
Fixed my favorite bail thank you!!!!!!
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help! Thanks for letting me know - Dennis
@2.Trades
@2.Trades Жыл бұрын
Great video! Worked for me.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle Жыл бұрын
Glad to have helped. Thanks for the note
@robertbrost7777
@robertbrost7777 4 жыл бұрын
My problem is quite different. My Shimano Solstace 4000 with the Quickfire 2 trigger has the problem of a bail closing mid cast. I'll throw the lure and 20 yards later the bail closes shut. Also, there are times when the bait hits the water, I turn the handle to click close the bail and it remains open. That's not as bad, I should be manually closing the bail by hand anyway. I'm waiting to see my lure keep going one of these times when that bail slams shut mid cast! Any ideas?
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
You need to check the bail trip mechanism inside the rotor. It is most likely sticking and would need to be cleaned, If dirt is stopping it from fully setting, then the bail will move as you describe when you are casting - Dennis
@robertbrost7777
@robertbrost7777 4 жыл бұрын
@@2ndChanceTackle Sorry to be naive but, is this "bail trip mechanism" located on one end of the bail spring, under the cover? Not the bearing end, the other end. Just unscrew the screw and have a look? Thanks.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
If you remove the rotor, you will see the trip lever under one of the two arms. That is the side. to remove if it is giving you trouble. - Dennis
@robertbrost7777
@robertbrost7777 4 жыл бұрын
@@2ndChanceTackle Thanks. I removed and cleaned both sides of the guts of the bail. One side had a spring slid over a metal "L" shaped piece. One end of the L inserted into a hole on the plastic rotating piece that's held on to the rotor by the screw. Hope it helps. Didn't see much else in there. It's a Solstace 4000 with the quickfire 2 trigger. Old one.
@easyfishing9152
@easyfishing9152 3 жыл бұрын
Hey .. what's up.. I have a vintage Daiwa 7500..I can't put the bail spring back..I just don't get it right..help me.. thanks.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Ra\ey - can you send me a picture of the spring and side rotor cavity you are working on? Send to my email 2ndchancetackle@gmail.com and I will try to help you - Dennis
@kennethjones6045
@kennethjones6045 2 жыл бұрын
Good information, thank you
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 2 жыл бұрын
YW
@ironcity227
@ironcity227 8 ай бұрын
Would the same problem cause it not to even close to the halfway point?
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 8 ай бұрын
Yes - that is almost always caused by a bent bail wire - Dennis
@ironcity227
@ironcity227 8 ай бұрын
@@2ndChanceTackle thanks, I’ll have to check that out.
@bigalmaden8042
@bigalmaden8042 2 жыл бұрын
I have two reals that do this. I will have to look to see if this was the problem. Crossing my fingers...Thank you!
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 2 жыл бұрын
I hope that helps - Thanks for the note - Dennis
@calebbeminio2345
@calebbeminio2345 4 жыл бұрын
Any tips for a bail that opens with very minimal pressure. Always opens up when I’m reeling in a fish.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Yes - take the spool off and use a penetrating oil spray where the trip mechanism is. That part is likely sticking and not closing fully, as a result it will open because it is not fully engaged. It that does not solve it, you will need to remove the rotor and do a full cleaning - Dennis
@todds8490
@todds8490 2 жыл бұрын
What if the wire pulls out it keeps popping out. . Does that mean bail wire is bent. I have 070 shakespear real.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 2 жыл бұрын
Yes - the bail wire is most likely bent or you have a faulty connector -
@dougedoug007
@dougedoug007 4 жыл бұрын
Just did this to my Okuma Avenger ABF65...Fixed it...was going to replace it for sticky bail...I like to crank mine shut others like to close it manually..Just my thing I guess...Thanks
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with the manual flip. Some top end reels like the Shimano and Penn SpinFishers have gone to manual only for the flip - Thanks for watching - Dennis
@redeyestones3738
@redeyestones3738 18 күн бұрын
My bail just flops both ways, and dosnt engage, or lock. Got a video for that?
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 18 күн бұрын
Sounds like a broken bail spring. What reel make and model do you have?
@FarFromPar
@FarFromPar 4 жыл бұрын
Could this also cause the bail to close while casting? I have an old shimano 2500 that this started happening to.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
It is most likely that you have a trip lever that is sticking and not fully anchoring the bail when you set it to cast. You need to remover the rotor and spray the lever with penetrating oil where it points out under/inside the rotor. Work the bail a few times and that would help loosen and stickiness. Then try to cast and see if that fixes the issue - Thanks for asking - Dennis
@FarFromPar
@FarFromPar 4 жыл бұрын
@@2ndChanceTackle thanks for the quick reply! Would removing the trip lever cause any problems. I would then just have to manually close it every time, correct?
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
You need to make sure that you can lock the bail in open before removing the trip lever for manual operation. Some reels have a direct tie between the two and if you pull the trip lever, the bail will not stay open. I think you will be OK. Check the schematic to make sure. Is the a sub-brand for the Shimano 2500 like FX, or Sedona, or MX ir something else? I can try to find the schematic if you can give me the sub-brand model - Dennis Dennis
@FarFromPar
@FarFromPar 4 жыл бұрын
@@2ndChanceTackle I just removed it and put it back together and it's staying open. It's a 2500FH. Thanks again for your video! It really helped me find a satisfactory solution.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Great News. Thanks for watching - Dennis
@Enibemongullie1998
@Enibemongullie1998 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, i want to ask you this, when i lift up my belt it locks, and when i put it down. It doesn't work on lock, what is the problem?
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
It sounds like you have a bail trip mechanism that is sticking, assuming that the springs are working OK. Remove the spool and use a penetrating oil like WD40 to spray both points where the bail connects to the rotor on the outside and if there is a lever that is visible from under the spool, spray that too. Work the bail back and forth a few times to see if that can help free it up - Dennis
@Enibemongullie1998
@Enibemongullie1998 4 жыл бұрын
Now, sometimes the lock works and some times it doesbt work?
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
You can keep rinsing with the WD40 to free it more, or you may need to disassemble the trip mechanism the clean out dirt and grease that cannot be dissolved
@johnorson5117
@johnorson5117 3 жыл бұрын
Very good vid I fixed my real in ten mins excellent
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis
@zuraizizarakikenpachi6612
@zuraizizarakikenpachi6612 4 жыл бұрын
What the best wire to made a bail spring???
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
You need to get a direct replacement from the manufacturer or from a parts distributor. You cannot fashion these from straight wire. - Dennis
@zuraizizarakikenpachi6612
@zuraizizarakikenpachi6612 4 жыл бұрын
@@2ndChanceTackle thanks boss for your feedback...i enjoy watching your videos
@ARCSTREAMS
@ARCSTREAMS 3 жыл бұрын
i have a small reel with a pretty thick bail wire and got it brand new but notice it was quite stiff closing by reeling and i end up using my hand to flip it closed and i was getting upset i may have bought a junk reel and then i realised the factory set screws on either sides of the arms needed loosening and now it closes easily but again there is one position that sometimes gets stuck ,i think it is internal problem on the firing trip or possibly a design flaw found in most reels but not my shimano lol so idk what to do,i dont want to start taking it apart, although they say you should not use the reel arm to close bails but rather do it by hand but that is annoying
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
That one position that is sticking is probably at the height of the bail trip ramp. That would be a design issue and not a part problem. - Dennis
@ARCSTREAMS
@ARCSTREAMS 3 жыл бұрын
@@2ndChanceTackle ok as i figured so there is not much i can do about this i guess, my shimanos dont have this problem and they seem to be designed to trip the bail via reeling arm because its so smooth
@ARCSTREAMS
@ARCSTREAMS 3 жыл бұрын
@@2ndChanceTackle also this happens specially with non forgiving anti reverse reels ,once you open the bail and did not get enough room to reel it closed it can get stuck at this position and i have to semi close the bail and change position to open it again , the other thing is at this position the bail wont even flip back all the way ,its such a bad design flaw
@raulcolmenero
@raulcolmenero 4 жыл бұрын
Thank u so much it fixed mine just like that
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help. Thanks for watching - Dennis
@KendallNunn
@KendallNunn 6 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot it works
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 6 ай бұрын
Glad to have helped - Dennis
@vjanda1
@vjanda1 3 жыл бұрын
Will it effect line lay?
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
It should not change the line lay - Dennis
@vjanda1
@vjanda1 3 жыл бұрын
@@2ndChanceTackle I must have been too rough. Getting top heavy line lay. Think I need to bend arm backwards a little bit as my reel can't accept line lay spacers. At least bail arm works 😂
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe. Check to make sure the bail arm itself is square and not tilted forward. It may not be resetting fully. You can generally flush that with a good spray of a penetrating oil like WD40 to help it swing all of the way back if it is stuck - Dennis
@vjanda1
@vjanda1 3 жыл бұрын
@@2ndChanceTackle That was the problem. The arm wasn't swinging back all the way. After a bit more persuasion with some pliers everything is aligned and working. Just spooler reel and it's nice and parallel. Thanks for all you help. Tight lines?
@s12pilot
@s12pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Worked on my reel.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Yup - it's an easy fix that most folks don't think about. Thanks for watching - Dennis
@kingsknights1103
@kingsknights1103 7 ай бұрын
Can I do the same if I felt and my bail it’s bent can I just do the same ?
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 7 ай бұрын
Yes
@jerryscott253
@jerryscott253 5 жыл бұрын
How do you fix the switch on the bottom of the reel keep it from going backwards
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 5 жыл бұрын
This feature is usually controlled by a spring, either inside the gear assembly or under the rotor. If it is loose, my guess is you have a broken or detached spring. You should get the schematic for the reel - Do an internet search with you reel make and model and the word schematic and you should find it. You should then check for the set up and then check to see that the parts are there and not broken. - Dennis
@garybonobowood
@garybonobowood 4 жыл бұрын
It's a little trickier if the reel has a bail trigger, like my 80's Shimanos, but I got it closing properly with a little bend.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Bails are the bane of fishing reels. Overly complex and annoying to put together. Thanks Gary.
@krisc6012
@krisc6012 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! I woulda run out n either returned the reel I have where the pin will not trip to release line. I watched a few videos an all of em replaced the spring, wire or entire spinning unit (cannot think of the name) lol. Thanks . Im fixing my own like the awesome chick Fisherman I am
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped build your legend! Best wishes for great fishing - Dennis
@EIRE1980
@EIRE1980 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir fixed it just right
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear - Thanks for the note - Dennis
@EIRE1980
@EIRE1980 3 жыл бұрын
@@2ndChanceTackle heading fishing today and that was one of most expensive and favorite reals, the guys at Fleetfarm were trying to say oh its broke its done but a new one. Then I found your video. Very grateful saved me $150. God bless have a great weekend
@huckfin1100
@huckfin1100 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks worked for me !
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped - Best wishes - Dennis
@kristofrugi5051
@kristofrugi5051 3 жыл бұрын
You are Sir just amazing
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words. and for watching - Dennis
@herford144
@herford144 4 жыл бұрын
Great information! Thanks!
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Allen. Please stay tuned for mere to come - Dennis
@gregmiller1844
@gregmiller1844 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I have a Pfleuger President I bet this will fix.
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 2 жыл бұрын
Give it a try! It fixes most of them
@ScottRauber
@ScottRauber 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome info. TY soooo much. New sub!!
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub and for the note - Best wishes - Dennis
@IronheadOfScroteus
@IronheadOfScroteus 4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, Thanks!
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. Thanks for watching - Dennis
@bassgurujim
@bassgurujim 4 жыл бұрын
Great to know. I've had the problem but always thought it needed a new spring. Thanks!
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help - Thanks for watching - Dennis
@joeo1352
@joeo1352 5 жыл бұрын
Great tip , thanks 👍
@2ndChanceTackle
@2ndChanceTackle 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching - Dennis
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