How to Fix a Sour Espresso - Breville Barista Express

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Hoon's Coffee

Hoon's Coffee

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@diegogarber1
@diegogarber1 4 жыл бұрын
I watched 30 videos on how to do this... And time after time I was getting a sour shot. I was washing the Porta filter after each shot and of course I had absolutely no idea why it was going sour. No other video said this!!! Actually, other videos said "if it's sour, grind finer". You sir, you saved me! You saved me from returning this machine! After watching this video, 2 shots later I made one of the best tastings flat whites I've ever made (I already knew how to froth the milk, that part I had I down) I really appreciate it! Subscribed forever!
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kinds words! I'm glad that you figure it out.
@2fast2nick
@2fast2nick 3 жыл бұрын
same!
@1one3_Racing
@1one3_Racing 21 күн бұрын
Wait. Grind finer and let the machine warm up was the secret to your success? Wow.
@nicholasdenby1547
@nicholasdenby1547 4 жыл бұрын
I can not ever thank you enough! I hadn’t used my breville machine in half a year because every shot was so sour. I’d try other websites and videos, but your information really made a difference. Keep up the fantastic work, all of your videos are a great watch!
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@jorgefantoni3182
@jorgefantoni3182 5 жыл бұрын
I have the same coffee maker that I bought almost 6 years ago , personally I adjust the grinder between 7 and 8 and turn on the coffee maker 30 minutes before and heat it up the group head with a double shot , is when I get into best results , nice video by the way .
@meeec3030
@meeec3030 2 жыл бұрын
You seem like the most genuine sweetest person. I have been binge watching all your videos on the breville machine and out of everyone you've helped the most
@BreezerBeej
@BreezerBeej 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a newbie and still trying to differentiate between sour and bitter. Luckily, a local coffee shop near me where I buy my beans has invited me to come in to learn some tips and tricks. These videos are the perfect first steps.
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds great!
@tttdrr2293
@tttdrr2293 3 жыл бұрын
Try looking at a picture of a human tongue where taste is located. When you sip try to locate where it is predominant.
@wwbowling
@wwbowling 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hoon. I've had the same machine for 2 years and always loved my espressos. But after watching your series last night and today, making some adjustments; I made the best espresso I have ever had! As you know for an espressoholic that means I just died and went to coffee-heaven! You'd think that Breville could do a better job of teaching customers how to get the best results.
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
They are pretty good teaching us basic skill but more than that it is really difficult.
@Gunwook010
@Gunwook010 5 ай бұрын
I love that u give a little summary on what to do after giving out detailed explanations and tests 😢😢 will try this out with my machine !! Tysm
@4333carol
@4333carol 3 жыл бұрын
I've had my machine for almost a year and I still am tinkering. Your channel is really helping me dial in on the issues I'm having. I'm going to let the machines warm up and give it another try. Thanks!
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@kellyoyea
@kellyoyea 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I just got mine this week and the shots were so bitter! I didn't realize I needed to leave the machine on to preheat. I'm new to the espresso world. Thank you :)
@cadizwilmo9687
@cadizwilmo9687 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I've had my machine for 5 years now and never let the machine warmed up. So I will try this and I'm sure it'll make a difference. Thank you.
@issageorges900
@issageorges900 4 жыл бұрын
Thank u so much man I really appreciate I’ve spent the whole day fighting with this Maschine to have the pressure and the right speed and believe me the only problem was I didn’t heat the machine before
@matthewclermont852
@matthewclermont852 3 жыл бұрын
Just out here changing people's lives.
@ansonbispham5355
@ansonbispham5355 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to try this out. A year with this machine and I'm still figuring it out. Thank you.
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
You can do it!
@123024119
@123024119 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, I was getting sour shots even with the pressure being too high so heating the machine was a big help! Thanks for sharing
@jzgjty
@jzgjty 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this info. I've been struggling with under extraction. Two small changes and I've got a great combination now
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
You got this!
@Audioholics
@Audioholics 2 жыл бұрын
You're videos are just excellent. Can't thank you enough!
@astralfx
@astralfx 3 жыл бұрын
Hoon - You are a life saver and my Hero! Thank you for all these videos
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@plasmichoneytrip
@plasmichoneytrip 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm a new user of this machine. I will definitely try your technique.
@quaxenleaf
@quaxenleaf 3 жыл бұрын
Your voice is very calming...and I love your content. Subscribed immediately!
@TheAlexBradford
@TheAlexBradford 5 жыл бұрын
I have the same machine, and I've learnt a lot from this video already. Will check out the rest of your video's. I don't measure the amount of coffee I use, and I usually apply about 30kg's of pressure with the temper, and grind is currently set to 1, this is how I get the pressure. I might go buy a scale and measure the amount of coffee.
@yorbalindason
@yorbalindason 5 жыл бұрын
How does one know they are applying "30 kg's of pressure" when tamping? Is there a way to actually measure that?
@TheAlexBradford
@TheAlexBradford 5 жыл бұрын
@@yorbalindason I was using scales, pushing down until it reached 30kg's
@BWWGL9
@BWWGL9 4 жыл бұрын
@@yorbalindason That's way to much! 66 pounds.... try about 10 at most
@KamalChowdhury
@KamalChowdhury 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, once again. Love your helpful videos.
@fenderman21guitar
@fenderman21guitar 4 жыл бұрын
Run a shot through the portafilter first, thats literally all I needed to do to start getting really good shots. Previously id been warming up the machine, but id run a shot without the portafilter in place (to keep it dry) but that extra heat made all the difference
@peaceful3250
@peaceful3250 4 жыл бұрын
I do that too and 5 minutes is plenty of warm up time for me with this machine.
@robinkemp6845
@robinkemp6845 2 жыл бұрын
I think that has helped me. I'll try making the grind finer. I definitely went the wrong way.
@Regula_joe
@Regula_joe 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, I have the model before the express but same applies. I leave it on for about 20min but my first shot will almost always be my test shot. It's rare that the 1st shot will be good but it's gets the machine where it needs to be to produce a good cup of coffee
@bijiteshwarrudraaayush6617
@bijiteshwarrudraaayush6617 4 жыл бұрын
Hi @Hoon's Coffee, Thank you for your videos. They have been very very helpful in making a better espresso. I just got this machine and i am using the same beans (Lavaza Crema) as you. I follow the same ritual as you, i.e. leaving the machine to get hot (20-25 mins), distributor, measuring and all. Following are my issues" 1. 1 Cup Single Wall Filter, with 7-8 grind setting, I get GREAT coffee. But i would like to use the When I use 2 Cup Filter . 2. When I use 2 Cup Filter , grind 7-8 - just sour and no pressure coffee 3. When I use 2 Cup Filter , grind 2 - Great Crema, beautiful coffee but just bitter/ sour. I am using the same machine, same beans as in this video. Any suggestions or tips would be much appreciated. Thanks
@wa8dpv
@wa8dpv 5 жыл бұрын
I used the Baratza grinder to make an Americano with the Barista Express. Same settings as for the Expobar. Came out better than the Barista Express grinder
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 5 жыл бұрын
I think grinder makes all the difference.
@roygaines7897
@roygaines7897 3 жыл бұрын
Hi hoon, so I have the same espresso machine as you and I was wondering how you get it to be on the 8 setting for the grind. On my machine, it seems that I can’t go past the 4 setting without it being under extracted. But Right now the shots on the machine are pulling really well, they go to the 12:00 position most of the time and the espresso isn’t sour. So should I just keep it at the 4 setting if it is pulling good?
@abdel184
@abdel184 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much man you re great
@Throughly1
@Throughly1 4 жыл бұрын
You changed the grinder setting to 8 after 20 minutes. Does the final extraction come from waiting too long or from the finer grind? Maybe the main cause is the finer grind alone, not both.
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
You might be right!
@joe8172
@joe8172 4 жыл бұрын
My money is on the grind size. I doubt any temp difference of thre group head after being left to warm up (it was warmed up previously when he heated the cup) would have changed the speed the shot poured or the volume of the output.
@Cairo481
@Cairo481 6 ай бұрын
Hey Hoon. Big fan of your videos. Do you do any trainings 1:1 where someone can pay for a class?
@mariefeeley3282
@mariefeeley3282 3 жыл бұрын
I could not find link for the cleaners. This was great.
@maximilianpallmann4867
@maximilianpallmann4867 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I have a Sage machine which seems to be almost the same as yours and I also struggle with sour flavours. I'm using the finest grind level and my pressure goes up to around 2 o'clock, but still the extraction is too fast. How can the temperature lead to a longer extraction time though?
@TurreTuntematon
@TurreTuntematon 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same. Try tamping a bit harder but not too much. That also slows extraction down a bit. For dark roasts they actually recommend setting the machine to -1c so it’s colder water. That slows also down extraction a bit and reduces sourness. Opposite with mild roasts where it’s +1c. When you are in the 30 second range you are good. Make sure the machine is warm.
@aikz5
@aikz5 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hoon. Your videos and tips helping a lot with cleaning, adjustment of inner and outer grinder settings, and now this brilliant tip around heating up machine, head to enjoy a yummm cup of coffee. I wish if breville have an indicator light to show when machine is warmed up and ready to use. I have a question regarding warming up though, after you leave machine, it looks like goes into sleep mode. Power light starts glowing in snooze kind of mode. Do we need to still press power button and wait for 20 mins?
@consumerthis3169
@consumerthis3169 3 жыл бұрын
I think if you are just getting into this hobby / art, you should probably start with going to a well known or coffee shop and ask for a plain double shot to sip on espresso to start with a baseline of what sour means. Espresso is pretty hardcore
@Paberu85
@Paberu85 5 ай бұрын
basically you suggest to mask sourness with bitterness? That will work if beans are properly roasted/degassed.
@paris.granville
@paris.granville 2 жыл бұрын
Great Tips!
@leonida9771
@leonida9771 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, I learned a lot from your videos👍😁
@Dainus77
@Dainus77 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hoon. Can you give a tip on tamping? Were you using the Breviile tamper? I noticed you were using a black one and turning it. How much force do you use when tamping?
@everbeenzen
@everbeenzen 4 жыл бұрын
You can also adjust the temperature of the water internally by several degrees depending on which setting you chose.
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
I set my machine at default setting.
@m_imran_khan
@m_imran_khan 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Hoon. First, thanks for all your content. How can I tackle this issue with the Pro? It doesn’t have a warmup time due to the thermo jet system. I adjusted the heat manually in the menu, perform a pre-infuse heat up to 8 seconds, still very sour.
@Sidin4k
@Sidin4k 3 жыл бұрын
I need your expertise. I have the same machine as you. I weighted out 2 dose (18g) the pressure is right in the middle. My shots are still coming out sour. What could I be doing wrong?
@DaisyAruba
@DaisyAruba 2 жыл бұрын
What do you use under your machine? Like is it a rubber type anti slip for the machine ? Or water absorbable for spills?
@susantaylor5068
@susantaylor5068 3 жыл бұрын
Great help thank you 😊 ☕️
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@susantaylor5068
@susantaylor5068 3 жыл бұрын
@@HoonsCoffee much better after heating same machine 10 mins took away the bitter taste - I have watched many of your videos and luv your enthusiasm and professional advice ☕️😊
@blackboxberlinTV
@blackboxberlinTV 2 жыл бұрын
Once again, thanks!
@californiacoast7021
@californiacoast7021 3 ай бұрын
Using Starbie’s Blonde Espresso beans. I used the settings u recommended 3burr 4 grind and it’s choking my machine and it doesn’t have water infusion. What do I do, Hoon? Please help
@j.s.3414
@j.s.3414 3 жыл бұрын
This helped with my Bambino Plus as well. Breville/Sage fakes you out into thinking it's quick heating element means that the water temp is in fact at the correct range. This video along with heating my porta filter helped a ton.
@Hhbcddcbnju
@Hhbcddcbnju Ай бұрын
Hi, I am not getting the grind size right. I tried 13 grind sizes and it still tastes sour. What is the interior conical burr grinder set to? Mine is at 7. Can you talk about how to know the right internal grind size and then how to know what to set the external dial to? I ground the same beans at 1 and then all the way at 14 and they looked the same. Is it my grinder? My machine is 2 days old and I can't figure it out. Please help.
@benjaminboyer8857
@benjaminboyer8857 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! Just got my machine two days ago! You have been sooo helpful! Any suggestions on the froth wand? Im wanting to get better at latte art!
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
Check out video I did. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3qYZptjg915bNk
@jclogue7
@jclogue7 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hoon What internal setting is your burr grinder on? My pressure gauge is consistently at the over extracted mark but I’m still getting a weak/sour quick pour shot, despite grinding finer and sticking to 18g in basket
@carolearley4664
@carolearley4664 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Hoon, any tips for me.... when im using double shot basket it does not go past pre infusion so coffee is terrible. When I use the single basket single shot it makes a perfect coffee every time.... this machine has been perfect for 3 years and only now have I had this issue! Thanks 👌
@JL-qj4pi
@JL-qj4pi 4 жыл бұрын
Hoon, do you usually do 18g in and about 50g out? So almost like a 1:3 ratio? What's your experience with a 1:2 ratio as far as flavor vs. shot time?
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
If I'm making a latte I like 1:3 but just espresso 1:2.
@JL-qj4pi
@JL-qj4pi 4 жыл бұрын
@@HoonsCoffee got it. Thanks
@DaisyAruba
@DaisyAruba 2 жыл бұрын
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED TO ME!!! After loving my espresso and drinks that I would make at coffee shops I worked at. I made a coffee as usual and I drink it I’m like “what?! This taste like cleaning materials?!?!” And the next shot and the next was too.
@patrickmonnier2193
@patrickmonnier2193 4 жыл бұрын
Thank, but difficult to interpret the result when several parameters are changed at the same time, grind size and preheating
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
Great point!
@patrickmonnier2193
@patrickmonnier2193 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos, I am going to bring out my machine and try to get better result than before. I have just place an order for coffee.
@umoodley
@umoodley 4 жыл бұрын
This was great. Thanks for sharing
@rergang3
@rergang3 11 ай бұрын
What was the internal grind size set at?
@lauwe54
@lauwe54 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks good video,hope this solves my problem
@lauravega3161
@lauravega3161 7 ай бұрын
What is your burr grinder at?
@jillianthomas7001
@jillianthomas7001 3 жыл бұрын
When timing a shot, do I include the pre infusion stage or start timing when the espresso is coming out? My shots have been pulling in about 35 seconds, starting with the push of the button. But they still seem sour.
@garyhilton656
@garyhilton656 3 жыл бұрын
Only start the timer when you see the shot start to pour
@timothyberlinski2299
@timothyberlinski2299 3 жыл бұрын
Same here and i use the same beans hoon has in this video. Time is good, pressure good but still seems sour
@dorotalis6903
@dorotalis6903 4 жыл бұрын
Hi there, I purchased this same machine about a week ago and was able to make great espresso shots with a medium roast. My husband and I are trying out a blonde roast (with a roasted on date) and haven't been able to have much success. We've gone all the way down to #1 grind from #9 to experiment and the espresso still remains sour. We always allow the machine to heat up for the recommended time prior to using, so we're not sure what could be the road block. Pressure and yield are good, and the timing during extraction is ok. Any suggestions? Much appreciated!
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
With lighter roast, water temp is important. Try increase the temp. Here is video how to do it kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5C2aHudZbNsbpI
@dorotalis6903
@dorotalis6903 4 жыл бұрын
Hoon's Coffee Thanks for the link! I’ll try that out and will let you know if that solves my problem so others can use that for reference too!
@dorotalis6903
@dorotalis6903 4 жыл бұрын
Hoon's Coffee Just wanted to follow up and say that increasing the temperature did the trick! Thanks again!
@daisy180709
@daisy180709 4 жыл бұрын
Hoon , if your using 8/9 on the exterior grinder setting , whats the internal setting your using at the burrs ?
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
My inner burr set at 6 at the moment
@daisy180709
@daisy180709 4 жыл бұрын
@@HoonsCoffee Thanks , ill double check mine tomorrow. I know each machine will probably be different , but might get me in the ballpark. Having trouble with sour and bitter shots. If i grind fine and manually pour the shot to get anywhere near upwards of 28 seconds the coffee tastes terribly burnt
@HistoryHub101
@HistoryHub101 3 жыл бұрын
G'day mate, have you changed the internal grind setting at all?
@ThuanNguyen-hk1rr
@ThuanNguyen-hk1rr 3 жыл бұрын
I’m new with espresso. I have the Breville espresso touch,, have been playing with different kinds of bean and brands. Sometimes I got a good shot,sometimes not. Watched some of your videos and I learn a lot of tips. Just wondering what number did you set for conical burr. Manufacturing set is #5 on mine. I Bought a bag of Lavazza beans at Costco yesterday, and it tasted sour and then I adjusted the grind dial from outside finer but it still bad. I don’t know if it’s me or the beans or I haven’t found the right beans for my taste, so far only Starbuck beans is given a good cup.Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thank you.
@gol111
@gol111 3 жыл бұрын
@thuan nguyen , me too only starbucks coffee is not sour, tried different grinds, and fresh beans... did you find a solution?
@dimakushnir7506
@dimakushnir7506 5 жыл бұрын
According to quick guide, the recommended setting suggests starting point at 5, on Grinding size and at about 3pm/50%, on the grind amount.
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 5 жыл бұрын
That is pretty good starting point as well. You just need to adjust from there. Take you time to adjust your shot. It took me many shots to get a right!
@Stoney3K
@Stoney3K 4 жыл бұрын
@You Tube Single shot should be 9 grams of coffee in, with 18 grams of espresso out.
@Rades99
@Rades99 2 жыл бұрын
This is a dumb question, but how come you use the 2 shot option? Should I be using that for making 1 coffee (cappuccino)?
@sevetysam425
@sevetysam425 3 жыл бұрын
What’s your burr settings on?
@dentitten
@dentitten 3 жыл бұрын
I heat up my machine too. But it shuts itself off after about 20 minutes. So when I forget about time, the machine lost half its heat. Thanks again for the information !
@nhall78
@nhall78 5 жыл бұрын
Where do you find the pressure gauge to be best? For me it appears to be best when it’s between 1 and 2o’clock..
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 5 жыл бұрын
With LaVazza SuperCrema, 11-12 is better. 1-2 little bitter for me.
@nhall78
@nhall78 5 жыл бұрын
Hoon's Coffee interesting - can you get at least 20 second pull at 12 o’clock? I’ve been unable
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 5 жыл бұрын
@@nhall78 You have to put into manual mode to control the time but I don't like to doing it.
@markbeesley5496
@markbeesley5496 5 жыл бұрын
@@nhall78 im with you, to get over 20sec i need to be at 1 or 2 o'clock
@happypatel6490
@happypatel6490 9 ай бұрын
I bought an used espresso machine, which works completely fine as per instructions and I have checked all parts but when I make an espresso it doesn't give me a good thick layer creama on top, I have tried my local roasters freshly roasted coffee with ground size of 0.8 and the regular espresso grind but my espresso comes out with very thin layer of crema. I tried pre-heating my machine. I tried different grind size. I tried different dose( amount of ground coffee)
@jdrown123
@jdrown123 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Hoon, thank you for all the great videos. I just purchased this machine yesterday and have been having some trouble with pressure. To get my machine anywhere close to the right range I had to adjust the internal burr from the 6 that it came at all the way down to a 3 and then set the grind all the way down to 1! I am using fresh beans from a local roaster so I know they are fresh. Is it normal to have to adjust the machine this much to get pressure? What am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance for any help!
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
Try with pressurized basket first(Set internal burr to "5" and grinder setting at "8". Make sure your machine is working properly.
@jdrown123
@jdrown123 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I should have specified, I did try that as well. Pressure is fine with pressurized basket at factory settings. I bought the unit from Best Buy and thought I might have received a bad unit so I took it back and got a replacement unit. Exact same issue... i feel like I must be doing something wrong but I can’t figure it out.
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
@@jdrown123 What kind of bean are you using it now?
@jdrown123
@jdrown123 4 жыл бұрын
Hoon's Coffee, I am using an espresso roast from a local coffee house. It was roasted on 6/3/2020
@TurreTuntematon
@TurreTuntematon 3 жыл бұрын
Are you putting enough beans and tamping enough?
@stephaniehalvorson4021
@stephaniehalvorson4021 3 жыл бұрын
So am I understanding right, you run a shot with the port a filter (sp?) in place and then leave it on for 20 min and that’s how it warms up?
@mariornyc2058
@mariornyc2058 3 жыл бұрын
Hi!! I been using the same coffee beans from Lavazza. My grind is at 2 and burr is at 6, also I use 19gram of beans for a double shut. What’s your burr number? And what’s the ideal gram of a double shot. Been watching a lot of videos and no one uses the same amount. Thank you
@ahmadawadallah5321
@ahmadawadallah5321 4 жыл бұрын
That was great! Thanks!
@asifjalil6020
@asifjalil6020 5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Can you explain, may be, in another video on how to change settings for long or small shots.
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 5 жыл бұрын
You mean single or double shot?
@asifjalil6020
@asifjalil6020 5 жыл бұрын
I meant volume for single and double shot
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 5 жыл бұрын
@@asifjalil6020 I like to measure it out 18 g for double and 9 g for the single shot. I don't want to mass with time dosing on the Barista Express because I don't store beans in the hopper.
@asifjalil6020
@asifjalil6020 5 жыл бұрын
My machine is pouring little over 2 ounce for single shot espresso. How to change machine settings.
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 5 жыл бұрын
@@asifjalil6020 You have to resetting the volumes by 1 CUP and 2 CUP shot volumes, press and hold the PROGRAM button until the machine beeps three times. Release the PROGRAM button. The machine will return to its original default volume settings and default espresso water temperature
@soyfernansu
@soyfernansu 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Hoon, great video again, I'm watching all your videos and they are very educationals. I have a question, what is your inside burr setting? I'm very curious about that.
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
I think set at 6. This is default setting for Breville.
@Nazareth434
@Nazareth434 3 жыл бұрын
Question- I bought some Volcanica Decaf (I can't drink regular coffee unfortunately) and when trying to brew 18 grams of espresso in to 36 grams out, it is way way way too sour- I have had to drop the grams down to 14, and up the output to 60 grams (2 ounces out) just to get it drinkable without the serious sour kick to it- Even at this ratio- the drink still has some sourness, BUT, it is more pleasant than face hurting- Why do i have to dilute it so much? Is it because it is Decaf? It's a medium roast - so it shouldn't be overly light/sour notes- Is it perhaps just a bad bag of beans? People seem to love the Volcanica decaf- though they brew it as coffee- as Espresso- it seems way too sour unless i dilute it a lot?
@margaritasola9581
@margaritasola9581 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@I-GENT
@I-GENT 3 жыл бұрын
Hi bro, look.. double bitter shot = good cappuccino. is it correct? Because, before i adding milk to the cup, I always trying my espresso and found it too bitter, after i adding the milk i getting good drink. And any way I have a bit bitter aftertaste . So, i have never got sour drink, but ever bitter. Lavazza Super Crema. By the way, I tried a lot of Lavazza , and found that all the same, so, no reason to pay more. Thanks for your time!!
@arielrodriguez6980
@arielrodriguez6980 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! If technically you do 18g of beans to get 36g extracted how is getting 50g ok like in your video? I am not saying you are wrong I am asking for learning purposes, thank you.
@hugoafonso1977
@hugoafonso1977 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Hoon, I’ve been following your videos for a few weeks and have been struggling to extract a decent espresso on the barista express. I’m using 18g dose, grind setting 8 and using the dual wall portafilter basket. Also I’m using the same super crema Lavazza coffee you used on this video. Any suggestions in order to avoid the constant under-extraction?
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
You get under extraction from Double wall basket? How long did you warm up the machine?
@hugoafonso1977
@hugoafonso1977 4 жыл бұрын
For about 45m? Isn’t it weird? What I’m doing wrong? It’s frustrating to say the least
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
@@hugoafonso1977 That is really weird. Since you're using a pressurized basket you should get a good extraction but you are not. How long did you had your machine?
@hugoafonso1977
@hugoafonso1977 4 жыл бұрын
Literally 2 weeks now
@isaaccruel3994
@isaaccruel3994 4 жыл бұрын
@@hugoafonso1977 is 8 the finest on express?
@SuperSpaceAgent
@SuperSpaceAgent 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Hoon. I’ve recently purchased a Breville 870xl and love it. I use Lavazza Blue. I’ve dialed the grind size, I get 12 o’clock pressure, but I get short durations, below 20 sec. I purchased a calibrated tamp, I’m applying 40lb of pressure (sometimes more). Any advise? Thank you in advance. I enjoy watching your channel. I’ve learned a lot!!
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
Try 1 finer setting and see what happens. Make sure go by your taste.
@SuperSpaceAgent
@SuperSpaceAgent 4 жыл бұрын
Hoon's Coffee I will try that. My current setting is at 3, I’ll try 2. What’s more important, pressure or extraction time?
@colouredIncognito
@colouredIncognito 2 жыл бұрын
I have a coffee from Nicaragua, so they should be acidic. Although I prefer it not being this prevalent, any way to solve this, whilst keeping the intensity of a espresso?
@marcoswenzel9729
@marcoswenzel9729 2 жыл бұрын
What should I do if the pressure is too high? Tks
@gjkmetalgjunkim2174
@gjkmetalgjunkim2174 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video. I will try to turn on machine 20min early b4 I make coffee. I gotta catch up all of your video.
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@ssokol91
@ssokol91 4 жыл бұрын
I am not sure if I missed the part or not, but what is the grind size you have set for this video? -Thanks!
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
Most likely 7.
@ssokol91
@ssokol91 4 жыл бұрын
@@HoonsCoffee Great videos! Thanks. I've been trying to replicate what you are doing (same machine, same coffee, same grind, same grind amount (8g for single)), but the brewing time is way too quick, and espresso comes out too bitter. Last time I tried, I left the machine to heat up for about 45-60 mins. Any ideas? Thanks again!
@notyouraveragevegan2677
@notyouraveragevegan2677 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that some beans just won't make espresso right? I went through a whole bag of " good" fresh beans, medium roast from a local roaster and could not get it to be not sour. I had the grind as fine as it could go. Time and out put were right (2 0z) around 28 seconds. Grind was down to 2 internal and as fine as it could go on the outside knob. How do I fix this? Tried a different coffee on the same settings and it came out good. Not sour.
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
Good beans are the key to making good espresso. What kind of beans are you using it now?
@notyouraveragevegan2677
@notyouraveragevegan2677 4 жыл бұрын
Hoon's Coffee - right now I'm using Irving Farm - Blackstrap the one I couldn't get to come out right was a medium roast from Graziella. The one I've had the best luck with is Atomic Coffee Roasters- Diesel Dark Roast. The Graziella I literally went through the whole bag and every shot was sour. Should I have tried to change the temperature?
@Ghorda9
@Ghorda9 3 жыл бұрын
@@notyouraveragevegan2677 you need to wait a week while still in the bag after roast date before you start using the beans.
@wa8dpv
@wa8dpv 5 жыл бұрын
I could have told you that the grind was too coarse. My new machine has an E61 group head which makes for even temperatures. You have to try one that I make.
@olivierkandel2156
@olivierkandel2156 4 жыл бұрын
I followed every tips and still very bitter extracting in less than 15s. Portafilter is warm, pressure gauge at 12 oclock....how can i fix this?
@ladi324
@ladi324 4 жыл бұрын
Hello there In my experience there are 3 things you have to balance to get a decent espresso shot 1 heat up the group head and the basket-+ the cup you use 2 get the grind Wright adjust it as you practise 3 most important coffee With supermarket coffee you are not going to get a very good espresso Lavazza super creama is a good one( I used lavazza but I’m using pascucci at the moment) Now pay attention Keep the coffee airtight and if the kitchen is dump think of keeping it on a dry place Coffee is very sensitive to dump ness and you can get everything Wright but if the coffee get moisten it will taste bitter So look after the coffee and keep it dry and properly sealed Hope this help
@fatmacakmak2391
@fatmacakmak2391 Жыл бұрын
Harika oldu
@Spillner
@Spillner 4 жыл бұрын
My man you got a great head of hair. Also make me wanna change my 8 yr 800esxl + dose control pro to the barista express
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
How's your infuser works so far?
@itsm3th3b33
@itsm3th3b33 4 жыл бұрын
So many variables were introduced making this experiment totally worthless. We don’t know if it’s because of temperature or finer grind or even placebo effect.
@andrer3764
@andrer3764 4 жыл бұрын
Noticed you’re grind setting is 8..is it normal i don’t get pressure until i change grind setting to like 5?
@bmwtruefan
@bmwtruefan 3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@FeelsDonkMan
@FeelsDonkMan 4 жыл бұрын
Any ideas why I can't get any pressure from beans that were roasted on the 14th? Stuck in the preinfusion phase of the pressure guage, Tried lowering the grind down to number 1 and doing a proper tamp && using the razor. Have down about 4 shots and the pressure has not budged a bit. Seems like no setting changes work.
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
Check you upper burr setting. You might need to adjust to lower setting there.
@FeelsDonkMan
@FeelsDonkMan 4 жыл бұрын
@@HoonsCoffee Thanks will give it a go
@Stoney3K
@Stoney3K 4 жыл бұрын
I've got shots running high pressure and they look a lot in colour like your second (good) shot, but they're still running a little fast and they taste REALLY sour. Could it just be that my beans are bad?
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
How old is your bean?
@Stoney3K
@Stoney3K 4 жыл бұрын
@@HoonsCoffee Supermarket beans so I already suspected them to be the issue. Even with a decent extraction pressure and weight ratio the coffee still tasted sour. I'll retry with a better batch and delegate these beans to regular coffee with the pressurized basket.
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
@@Stoney3K Try Pete's coffee. They are only coffee that has roasting date on it from Supermarket coffees.
@dutchpilipili
@dutchpilipili 6 ай бұрын
Since this week I own a barista touch machine. It seems that the machine is not warming up when keeping it on for longer though. Does anyone have experience with this?
@danaya_..d29
@danaya_..d29 2 ай бұрын
Hi! My pressure display seems to have a few water drops and the glass looks “ sweat” 😢 what ita may be ?! I just contact customer service they said I have to send the machine to them 🫣🫣🫣 but I can’t stay days without coffee, do you have an idea what can be? Anyone experiencing something like that?
@dwish6370
@dwish6370 Жыл бұрын
Its just a single thermoblock inside. Save yourself some time (and power) and simply run the steam wand first. This will heat the thermoblock to its max temp.
@myukibaihaki6772
@myukibaihaki6772 4 жыл бұрын
Hi.. im new with this machine..now i setting my grinder no 1 for inner and no 3 outside... never get 25-30 sec for extraction...i use 16gr bean...its my setting ok for grinder size? Also my coffee sour... i will try heat my machine..
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 4 жыл бұрын
Try with pressurized and see what happens there.
@bijiteshwarrudraaayush6617
@bijiteshwarrudraaayush6617 4 жыл бұрын
@@HoonsCoffee Hi, I am not sure what you meant by "pressurized". I have the similar situation and now my grind setting is 2. i am getting excellent cream and beautiful coffee but it sour. Can you elaborate what you mean by "pressurized". Is it a filter type ?
@Andy-iy2qj
@Andy-iy2qj 5 жыл бұрын
Have you had the need to adjust the burr grind setting? I bought some beans from Amazon, and they do not give me any preasure. I had to set the burr grind setting to 1 and the the dial to 1. I still do not get enough pressure and my shots are extracted in 20 secs. Maybe I should use the pressurized basket's
@RyanMultisport
@RyanMultisport 5 жыл бұрын
Andy it's better to buy from a local roaster and check the roast date so that you can be sure you're beans are fresh.
@Andy-iy2qj
@Andy-iy2qj 5 жыл бұрын
@@RyanMultisport yea, I gotta start doing that. The bag I bought is 2.5 pounds
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 5 жыл бұрын
Try with pressurized basket and see. How's water temp? Make sure water hot. By the way, what brand of coffee did you get?
@marknichollsphotography7804
@marknichollsphotography7804 5 жыл бұрын
If you’re at setting 1 and you’re not choking up the machine, those beans must be about 10 years old 🙈. I’ve never gone higher than setting 8 on my smart grinder pro.
@Andy-iy2qj
@Andy-iy2qj 5 жыл бұрын
@@marknichollsphotography7804 I have my burr set to 1 amd grinder set to 13. Bought some fresh roasted beans and I am getting a very nice flow and crema in 30 secs
@footy2rock
@footy2rock 5 жыл бұрын
I need help Hoon I just bought this machine 2 weeks ago and every time I pour a shot it's sour, I adjust the grind size over and over and still sour. What am I doing wrong?Please reply
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 5 жыл бұрын
How's speed of shot? Is it fast?Also, did you warm up the machine first? What kind of bean are you using it?
@footy2rock
@footy2rock 5 жыл бұрын
@@HoonsCoffee Yes it's coming out fairly fast,i warned the machine up for 20 minutes maybe more. I live in Melbourne Australia I first used Vittoria Coffee beans and when I bought the machine I received 6 packets of Pablo and Rusty coffee beans, it's an Aussie brand
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 5 жыл бұрын
@@footy2rock What is your current grind setting? You need to make little finer by 2 and see what happens.
@footy2rock
@footy2rock 5 жыл бұрын
@@HoonsCoffee I've tried every number setting on the grind dial and still it's sour I feel I have wasted my money on this machine
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 5 жыл бұрын
@@footy2rock When you change to lower number is your shot speed changes? or all the settings are the same speed of shots?
@BWWGL9
@BWWGL9 4 жыл бұрын
When you use the Coffee leveler, do you Push don't on it? I just just the same one, but not sure how DEEP I need to set it? Good video, Let me know thanks
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