How to fix Marvel Snap's WORST Card

I love Strong Guy but Snap does not.

[@SpaceRider15]

This game got the deepest of deep cuts like I never thought I’d see Ka-zar again

[@Scandal262]

Ka-zar had a comic like last year

[@BLOBGAMERv2]

Don't you mean Tarzan?

[@kadegetslaid634]

First heard about ka-zar from the marvelling at marvels marvels podcast lol, insanely deep cuts

[@gapsule2326]

@@Scandal262 and no one noticed

[@willthornhill5595]

I first met him in super hero squad

[@Spam591_]

I think a good idea could be like “If “X” amount of enemy cards have moved this game, gain “X” amount of power”. That way he synergizes with Polaris, and other “kinetic” or movement cards you can utilise like Juggernaut or Aero.

[@pigpotty]

Yea honestly based on how Nando describes him here, it sounds like Kraven has his Ability

[@throbbingpenguin]

Like pigpotty said, he sounds like a better kraven in your idea. But I think you’re on the right track, perhaps having him be little bit more like devil Dino and make strong guys ability be something like “On Reveal: plus 2 power for every card that has moved this game” or something similar to that.

[@DekksterSnap]

I think a realistic balance change for strong guy would be: 3/8 ( -1 power for each card in your hand ) He would be premium stats (higher than Maximus) but his condition is hard to meet. Also he wouldn’t be Shang Chi-able I love and miss Strong Guy. Was one of my favorite cards from when I first started Snapping

[@russellharrell2747]

Guido’s best friend would be Luke Cage then.

[@caleboles8896]

@@russellharrell2747how about 3/1 to 3/3 range gains +1 power for every card not in your hand (max hand size being 7, max attack being 3/10) does benefit from doubled ongoing but darkhawk still does it better.

[@devinx.chambers8015]

I was going to comment this. I think fully committing to making him a reverse devil dinosaur would make him pretty good. He'd probably work well in discard. And I'd be more inclined to play him over Ronan who's supposed to be a reverse devil Dino.

[@jonathanfranco8547]

Didn't expect to see you here lol

[@shane2039]

To synergise with Multiple Man and Polaris it would be cool if he was something like this: 3/3 - Whenever a card moves to this location, gain power equal to theirs. If no cards move to this location on a turn, destroy this at the end of the turn. It would mean Multiple Man can consistently keep him alive, Polaris can too and then it also does have the thematic explosion effect. Also him dying could still be very useful for Knull or used with Phoenix Force to revive him. He might never stick around til the end of the game, but there's ways you can take advantage of his build up of power and then self destruction. But also you could have a game where you just wait to play him on turn 5 with say an Iron Fist, then on 6 play a big 6 drop like Hulk to the right of Strong Guy, it moves into SG's lane and then you basically get 2 Hulks last turn. Maybe that's too strong though 😅

[@cheetahcheet675]

This is an awesome idea, but I was thinking about making him a 3/2 instead and for an alternative ability of “This card destroys itself at the end of each turn it gains power equal to the card that destroys it

[@ChrisBalon]

For each turn you end with NO unspent energy he gets +2 power. We have quite a few (thanks to High Evo) cards that key off of unspent energy, but what about characters that want to make sure you spend all your energy all the time? This way he can synergize with all the "you're guaranteed to draw this on turn X" cards - like Quicksilver

[@lyricwymer4881]

That’s a really cool idea

[@sillyskater2]

Hey Nando, just wanted to say that I’d avoided Marvel Snap the whole time but then you made a video and I gave it a try. Since April, I’ve hit infinity and have had a fun time playing. I’m proud to say I hit infinite on day one of Julys season. You’re the reason I’m now a daily Marvel Snap player.

[@NidorinoAlliance]

I like the idea of him being a reverse Sunspot. It’s just sad they already assigned that power to High Evolutionary Hulk. And that deck has gotten so spammy lately that I doubt they’d take that power away.

[@pitohui9430]

Maybe make him a 2/0 Ongoing:If your opponent has unspent engery at the end of his turn,this gains +2 power

[@NidorinoAlliance]

@@pitohui9430 Oh that’s a decent idea. Where it’s based on the enemies energy. That fits his character.

[@MarcianoDoug]

Make more videos like this, explaining lesser know characters from snap. It's great content

[@MrAwesome1513]

I think to keep in line with strong guy's comic abilities, he could be like a 4/16 that loses 2 power for each turn he isn't played. So T6 he turns into a 4/4 and T4 he is a 4/8. So, like a reverse HE hulk. Also, I really love the insights about strong guy. I had no idea about his friendship with multiple man. Definitely do more of these!

[@TakisEnjoyer]

If we're going lorewise, I would like to see him as a small Knull. Like he has combined power of all your cards destroyed by your opponent. Basically counter to Killmonger, Shang-Chi and Miguel. But also the Hazmat/High Evo counter idea sounds really good too.

[@inhocsigno]

Only respect for Guido, one of the few non-mob Italian-American characters in comics, probably the only super. And he's based on one of Italy's edgiest and most excellent comics, Ranxerox. It's like a deep cut that ate another deep cut.

[@AmNiceGuy]

It makes me so happy seeing you post videos about Marvel Snap!

[@dmb41jedi2]

I love how you know and explained the lore. It’s so awesome to hear. Fun video

[@FinnyThePoo]

I think the idea of Strong Guy exploding or somehow getting hurt by having too much energy is a fun idea. It could lend itself nicely to an effect similar to Attuma, except with a different condition (because it's not really in character to force Strong Guy to isolate himself). Give him high base power (3/7 or 4/10) but if he's at a location where your opponent has more power at the end of a turn, they have more energy than his body can handle so he explodes. Or just make it a blackjack style mini game where if you ever have more than 21 power at his location, he gets overloaded and is destroyed. Unfortunately I think it's VERY unlikely that they would change lanes for his design so drastically, so while he's likely to be changed he will probably still remain connected to the idea of having no or very few cards in your hand. Probably the biggest fundamental change in a cards design (post release) has been Crystal, but she was still essentially always about drawing cards one way or another.

[@zmanjace1364]

I like the second idea. That would be fun to pair with Typhoid Mary. Typhoid Mary + strongguy + zoo. That probably wouldnt work well but it would be fun to try.

[@LeoChaseTheMythMaster]

Love it. Can potentially make a video where you make the first five other young avengers as cards (iron lad is already in).

[@ryanm6404]

Finally a strong guy video!!!! hes one of my alltime favorite niches, would do WONDERS in a Deadpool movie

[@zerohcrows]

just got into this game 3 days ago and I love it! Was not expecting a video on it lmao, nice little surprise.

[@CJWproductions]

"When ANY card moves to this location, send it back. If you can't, this dies."

[@amandusvonborstel7515]

Love seeing you cover marvel Snap. This game is great and needs all the love

[@TheOneFromTheNorth]

4/3 or 4/2, If a card is moved here, bounce it back, if it's on your side gain its power or afflict him with negative power if it's an opponent's card. (If too strong make it a +2 or -2) or make it once per turn on both side like lockjaw so you get both of it's trait. Taking energy and letting that energy go alternatively 4/4, whenever this card would be destroyed gain +3 power instead (unless it's location is destroyed)

[@GreaserMan]

I wish thematically appropriate cards synergised better/at all. I've been fiddling with a Sinister Six deck since I unlocked 12 Spider-Man villains and they just don't work well together at all. The best I've come up with is the Mysterio/Carnage combo of killing one of the Illusions. Then again, I suppose you could argue this is thematically appropriate with this one example as the Sinister Six are always butting heads, idunno.

[@MaidenOfAir]

Ehh your first suggestion overlaps a lot with the effect high evolutionary creates with Hulk. It's definitely a bit different, but there's enough overlap that I think strong guy would still be underused. The second idea about gaining power based on countering High evo isreally good though, I like that

[@joseph2000117]

I think Strong guy should reward you for using up as much of your energy as possible, the invert High Evolutionary. I think he should reward you for using all of your energy on curve throught the game. If you do he gets a huge buff (kinda like dracula) at the end of the game. Something like "4/3 Ongoing: For each turn you use all your energy, gain +2 power" so he'll do for tempo decks, what Dracula does for discard. He might actually make tempo decks good in marvel snap lol. Also makes him better with Limbo which is a neat lore detail

[@HellHound_]

Love your Marvel Snap videos. Hope you do more of these!

[@handlebarsmustache]

I dread to think I was snapped on by Nando Movies 😂

[@valeriedure2341]

a strong guy with multiple man synergy: 3/5 On Reveal move all friendly cards here to other locations. Combines the idea of "he's big and he explodes" with multiple man synergy

[@jeffsenecal4168]

Gr8 vids Gr8 Lore, Gr8 angle. Make a series. Good stuff. Having him absorb energy through the match is a gr8 idea and anouther whole archtype.. if you dont play him by the end of the game, if he can, he jumps into a lane with that energy as negative energy... or he power is the total power of all the - power on your cards... good stuff

[@braydenc1791]

Exactly. Thank you, I hate how one of my favorite cards is unplayable. I really hope Havoc comes out and is good

[@Ironoxe]

Yea I love the idea of “ongoing: all negative energy inflicted this game this cards gains in a positive manner” it fits his character perfectly great idea 💡

[@jaycolins2430]

Nando with another Snap video 👌🏾 Strong Guy is a fun one for me. I tried making a deck with Guido and Sentry. It was OK, but not too competitive

[@nickisaac8671]

Here's a handful of things I think you could do - #1 - Should have been the 4/6 no abilities card The Thing was on release. The Thing should have still been 4/6, maybe 4/5, and had Luke Cage's ability but only at that location. That allows him to have been part of the High Evolutionary squad and have gained The Things ability, which is much more thematically in line with Strong Guy than The Thing in my opinion. #2 - Change up his stat line to a 5/2, but On Reveal he gets +2 for every card opponent card at that location. So he could be 5/10 if your opponent is playing a Zoo type deck, but he could be shut down with Cosmo, certain locations get certain buffs like Stark Tower and Muir Island outpacing, etc. #3 - Keep the current stat line, Move All Cards At This Location to another Random Location. +1 for each card moved. A lot of behind the scenes mechanics, a LOT of disruption, but if you wait too late you might not move certain cards, might over power other locations, might knock yourself out of contention. Really good synergy with Multiple Man, especially if you could play him at a location where he's been copied once, and a fun late game Odin target. I like a 'Gain power equal to' type mechanic too, but I worry it would just become Knull Off's.

[@TheNeptuneArc]

I think the best course would be the version you mentioned about being powered up by every negative energy point dealt with by opponent cards/actions. He would be especially strong counter-balance against High Evolutionary decks, or decks that combo Odin, Wong, Hazmat and Spider Woman. Pair him with Luke Cage and Arnim Zola and you have a winning contender for these types of decks.

[@thephony1651]

My idea is this: 3/8 If he is kept in your hand for more than three turns, his power will drop to -8 and he will be put in a random location.

[@thenandocut]

Love this

[@davidjavier2152]

7:52 I just imagine she-hulk punching strong guy hella times in the back and then him going up to Juggernaut and sending him to space

[@anthonystazzoni2181]

I really like the reverse sunspot idea. Give him like a max of like 6-7 power and disperse that around the board kind of how misty knight with high evolutionary

[@lauralharris]

I learned about mister negative from this game and now he's my new favorite marvel character

[@MattBarrIsTricky]

My suggestion: 3/8: At the start of each round, swap power with the strongest enemy at this location. So he thrives if he has someone big to punch. But is a liability if he doesn't have a line-up of strong things coming into his lane. Lets you stall out a lane or counter ONE BIG THREAT.

[@LeBearr]

There are so many people I’d never expect to play marvel snap that end up being active members of it which is so cool

[@GingerStrawhat]

I like your idea of Reverse Sunspot, My idea has been that he could very effective movement card but he himself can not move. So taking his powers into consideration, he absorbs kinetic energy and has to expel that energy or he explodes. So like if we want to pair him well with Multiple Man, I think Strong Guys power could be "When played, what ever card is then played in this spot is moved to another spot, but if this card is moved to another spot destroy it and all surrounding cards" and then maybe make him a Low Cost High Power Card like Maximus Maybe a 3/8 card. So that way he could really synergize with someone like Multiple Man but also have counters like Juggernaut or Aero.

[@Xylo91]

There was a time in the beta where Strong Guy was one of the top cards. They killed him by raising his cost from 2 to 4. It's pretty clear that around 5 power is where they'd like to cap 2-cost cards, which is understandable. I just wish they could've found a middle ground for Strong Guy rather than nerfing him into oblivion.

[@DeputyNomNoms]

Maybe something like 4/0: "Gain +1 power for each card that moves. Destroy this if it has more than 'X' power." This would make him syngerize better with both Multiple Man and Polaris and his power potential is very high but also plays into his risk of exploding.

[@CaptainR015]

I could see him being a 4/4 that states “On Reveal: gain power of the lowest power enemy card here. At the end of the game, destroy all cards here with less attack power than this card and reset this cards power.” It’s a lot of card text honestly, but I think it has interesting plays arounds for both players like Shang chi, card buffs, move mechanics, etc

[@ardzes]

Marvel Snapper here.. How about a reverse Sunspot, with a twist? He loses power if your OPPONENT has unspent energy? So he could start with a crazy stat like 2/8 (so that he's playable early on and the opponent has enough turns to bring his power down), and his power goes down by 1 power per 1 opponent's energy.

[@shanedbunting]

Strong Guy 4/8 on going: add power eaqual to added power in oppnents side of the field Or On reveal: add one power for each one power you opponent has added to card on their side of the field.

[@newsletterclub327]

maybe 'Can only be played in the middle location. Randomly moves cards to the left and right', 'cause then it's like the impact of him 'falling' from your hand is being redirected into a shockwave. also makes him synergize well with Multiple Man

[@newsletterclub327]

alternatively a 5/10 that loses power if you have unspent energy could also work, and means he could slot into a build that wants to spend all its energy and curve efficiently

[@StephenDukenski]

Also a long-time fan of Marvel comics and a Snap player. My history with Strong Guy goes back to Muir Island X-Men era-awesome cover with him facing off against Rogue. I was young and didn’t know “Guido” was a name. I just thought it was his code name and pronounced “Guide - o.” And only years later would I put together than “Guy” is a nickname for “Guido.” Love the character. He’s often my avatar but NEVER in my deck.

[@bookishtachyon6304]

I understand the whole deal of wanting him to have an ability that reflects his power, but I do wanna counter the idea that he’s the worst card, he’s actually very useful in my Hela discard deck because I am often able to consistently empty my hand by the end and if I don’t get Hela he synergizes with MODOK very well to give me location winning power as a backup. So he’s situational but that’s far better than like, Baron Mordo

[@brechtian802]

I know next to nothing about how Marvel Snap works and what is considered a "good rate" on a card, but as soon as you mentioned Strong Guy's superpower I thought of the Magic the Gathering card Boros Reckoner. It's 3 mana (the game's resource used to play cards) for a creature that has 3 power and 3 toughness, and whenever it takes damage it deals that much damage to any target. Maybe something like that with different stats could work, and make it so it has to target a creature so if there's nothing else on the board for Strong Guy to deal damage to, the "kinetic energy" has to deal damage to himself.

[@blankiecat9302]

The problem is there no health/ damage in the game

[@brechtian802]

@@blankiecat9302 That would be an issue

[@misterpreposterous5771]

Marvel Snap is pretty cute, but as far as card games go, Marvel Champions is just amazing at conveying all kinds of little and big details from the comics in its mechanics. That game just oozes love for the universe and the characters, and with the recent mutant waves players were impressed how well character powers were translated into a card game (no one in the community expected how Angel would turn out, for example). On top of that, it's just really well designed and fun to play both solo and with friends. I get that Snap is much more accessible (although being cheaper in the long run is probably up for debate), but Champions really deserves much, much more attention from Marvel fans.

[@imtm]

(1) 5/9 “Ongoing: While on hand or deck, Loses -2 power for every turn you had unspent mana.” He would have synergies with mercury, domino, Sauron, Luke cage. You “absorb” energy, but if you don’t play it, he bombs. (2) 6/7 “If you have less cards in hand then your opponent, I cost 3 less.” (3) 3/0 “Ongoing: my power is equal to the sum of the power of all cards that were discarded by my opponent” Synergies: silver samurai, black bolt, stature.

[@TheChiefBusta]

I like this type of video, another couple guys that could potentially use this type of video, ronan, baron mordo, punisher, cap and hawkeye. (Those last 3 were okay in the early game but really fell off as collections got bigger)

[@HenryZhoupokemon]

Never/always expected a Nando marvel snap video

[@PH_mds]

It could be a 1 cost/3 power: "Every turn this in your hand, energy and power increases by 1. If not played when cost reaches 6, this card is destroyed and destroy the next card to the left and to the right in your hand."

[@tindekappa9047]

Like they'll make Strong Guy out of all cards sinergize with his friends. They design the most random characters to synergize with each other. Like some of those characters couldn't have met for more than one or two panels.

[@kayearcher8407]

Guido and Monet were working toward a romance in the later half of the second X-Factor run.

[@thenandocut]

they did their best but then he went and had no soul which is a real date ruiner

[@johnwalker5460]

All the adds I’ve seen for this game but THIS video is making me want to download it

[@boxie13]

It could also be cool if he was like a single lane luke cage. Higher stat line and he doesn’t restore negative power but will block it after he is played

[@phabothadon7855]

I never knew who the infinaut was before marvel snap, it's funny you're making this vid cuz I've been playing HEAVY recently

[@electricVGC]

If they ever add Arkon to the game and he sucks I'm making my version of this video, Arkon isn't a particularly good character but I had the comics growing up and I liked his Weirdworld run

[@Giondi]

They won't do a card that's Sunspot but in your hand, that's basically what HE Hulk is. They could make him a reverse Angela, he gets stronger every time your opponent plays a card there.

[@DekksterSnap]

justice for strong guy 🙏

[@johnbowen5220]

I never really processed that in most decks Strong Gun is kinda useless since I used to run him with a deck that had a ton of 1 cost cards, meaning my deck was empty a lot (I had to stop using that deck later on because Killmonger but still). The deck was just a ton of 1 cost cards, a few 2 or 3 costs, and then Kazar, Strong Gun, and Blue Marvel.

[@Brightsonp]

Him (your 2nd version), typhoid, and living tribunal combo is terrifying

[@jayvillanueva6058]

He could be a more expensive Sunspot kinda like how Rockslide and Korg are set up. 4/3 but for every energy not spent, +2 power

[@davevevev]

Kinda makes him samey with evolved hulk

[@jayvillanueva6058]

@@davevevev I'd say it's a significant enough difference though because he'd only get the extra power after being played, like Sunspot, he is a lower cost card that would actually synergize with Zabu, and he doesn't require HE.

[@maxithalo7796]

Ooo i like the idea of him getting the power your other cards lose, could be an alternative to luke cage

[@GameMageVideos]

I think you got pretty close to it. The most elegant card text IMO would just be "Whenever this character would lose power, gain that much power instead."

[@ryanhorton9594]

I think the idea to increase his power by the amount of reduced power inflicted is the best idea.

[@justsaying6632]

First of all, I really hope they add in the future a way you could know a character like if you open the collection and browse a card theres an option to read the characters lore and where they appear first like in marvel future wars. Second, maybe because Im noob to game but I use strong guy actually on deck with kazar. So its basically small-energy-cost deck so I can clear up my hand easily.

[@matthewj5775]

I hate how obsessed I am with Marvel snap. Phoenix Force is the first time I haven’t bought the battle pass…. I have a snapping problem

[@joot6345]

Was not expecting snap content here

[@brandondavis3431]

I use to play the Facebook game Marvel Avengers Alliance. It had so many cool characters.

[@haydenmott3374]

I think you're on to something with the negative damage build. It would be neat if he was like mister fantastic and whatever damage he take he gives to the locations adjacent

[@keegmun1]

I think the idea of him being a movement card is a good one, but instead of being a card that moves or gets moved he should have the colossus text of being immovable but then hell "absorb" the movement and gain power instead of moving. "This card cannot be moved, whenever it would move instead gain X power"

[@peterkefalos7430]

I love the marvel snap content and would love to see more!

[@Phoenix3566]

I like this style of video on SnapThoughts. Unrelated, are you the Nando (in game) that uses Cosmo avatar and is “an embarrassment to my family”?

[@MrSpikeyZ]

Just found out you made these videos like 2 days ago. More please

[@viniciustomal3219]

4/8 - At the end of the game, if this card is in your hand, play it in your opponent side of the board. Naturally strong, a bit clunky to play for 4, if you don't play it it "explodes" helping your opponent.

[@fewntug3760]

I mean.. kinetic energy.. “Whenever this card is subjected to a move effect, give it +1 power.” Then he’s great in a move deck

[@telephonewyre]

Snap showed me strong guy for the first time and i absolutely love his character design

[@carlosbarbour]

I love your channel and marvel snap. Great video!

[@GooberGM25]

Perhaps he could be a 3/1 that gains the energy of each card your opponent plays as power.

[@cameroncorbin6952]

3/3 Ongoing: This card absorbs and redirects destroy effects onto cards in this lane back onto the original source. Examples: opponent is going to shang chi your devil dino. You play Strong Guy with priority, shang chi's destruction is absorbed and redirected back onto Shang Chi. Your opponent plays Wolverine, you play Strong Guy on that lane as they play Deathlok. Instead of destroying Wolverine, Deathlok destroys himself.

[@maxithalo7796]

Could be something like "the nexr card played here is thrown in another location" and its valid for both enemies and you

[@chromaticcaos]

Back in the beta, he was a 2/3 that got +6. They had to nerf him because he was overpowered in kazar zoo. Honestly I'd like to see him just get more competitive numbers, I could see costing 3 working

[@zmanjace1364]

Sounds to me like he should have had one of the High Evo powers.

[@brobs0463]

I’ve felt the same effect in Marvel Contest of Champions. Take Super skrull, when he showed up in secret invasion all my friends were like ‘Oh it’s that guy’ This is because super skrull is ass

[@fatinachen1888]

Hello, gambits card and abilities and playstyle is perfect don't you think? (I would like to have him as a 3 2 to match rogue again tho.) playing him is literally a gambit, and the card discard/throw. Perfection 👌

[@alexraeside7946]

If opponents plays card of 3 or higher power on the turn card is played. Add 3 power. Meeting strength with strength.

[@personanonmaga5178]

I'm not sure if you checked the stats before making this video, but Strongman is indeed, OFFICIALLY, the least played Snap card. even with decent discard options, it's really difficult to make him work. definitely needs a buff

[@sixtytwo.]

8 months on, he just got patched. > [Old] 3/3 - Ongoing: If your hand is empty, +6 Power. > [New] 3/3 - Ongoing: +6 Power if your hand has one or fewer cards. Any thoughts on the change?

[@shephsnap]

nando talkin snap? HELL YEAH

[@captaincloudsuperhero6869]

4/2 the first time a card is played here gain +4 power and move that card left

[@DavidC-fk2wg]

How about he gets power if he's "destroyed" or if he's hit by something like cylops or thing BUT if he goes above something like 20 he blows up.

[@gabvillagepanda]

Imagine this rework of “or else it’s destroyed” with phoenix force

[@2btobi835]

maybe he’d be good as an ongoing 4 - 1 card that changes its power to half of the opponent power at the location

[@2btobi835]

or if an on reveal card tries to effect him he redirects the effect to the opponent

[@silvertown3394]

"Forced synergy" If strongguy is played...and multiple man is on the field, get gets plus one. Can apply to dazzler. To teams A reason to have all Fantastic Four together in one deck!!!

[@smac646]

I get that you have reservations about "one small change", but what's the difference between these Marvel Snap videos and your older brand of videos?

[@lhellhammer]

Eh + power for every card greater than his base power. Nothing astronomical just +1 or +2. That way your opponent can still outscore him but requires them to still play around it.

[@Jean_13_]

what if he gains power when he takes damage until he does damage and expels it

[@ayyocool]

I had strong guy as a toy when I was younger. Wow.

[@thenandocut]

same