How To Fix Net Lights

[@meaghans4591]

Thank you you literally saved my Sanity fixed four sets of lights considering they were $10 last year and now they’re 15 so thank you so much

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Brilliant, Meaghan. I'm thrilled you were able to save the sets!

[@meaghans4591]

@@ChristmasOnCrestline no literally thank you I did not think I would actually be able to do it and I went and bought one of the voltage testers as you recommend any video has been a lifesaver. Thank you very much definitely will be following.

[@dustinpaz]

Thank you!!! fixed my net light I just got gifted. My head was spinning trying to figure out how to fix it. that little tool is neat, but I only had a voltage tester and I was able to figure it out with your video. much appreciated! Plus I may have been tempted to throw the whole net out, so we also helped our environment!!!

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Boom! You nailed it, it's like a magic wand. Ya gotta love science!

[@dramfan7749]

I bought both last year and they are a money saver. The pen is easier to carry on the roof and the Keeper is easier to use on the ground. Nice video.

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Totally agree!

[@flex_007]

Thanks for the help, your the man👍

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Merry Christmas, Flex. I'm happy you got your lights working again!

[@ChadsChristmasLights]

Love the video Charlie! I have about a 2' section of my net lights that is out and im going to have to check and see if I have a bad bulb somewhere. Thanks

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

The shunt fixer on the Light Keeper is like owning a real life magic wand! Freaking science! Ya gotta love it.

[@WhiskeynSunshineOffGrid]

I love your energy Charlie! That light keeper pro is like a magic wand for lights. Thank you for showing us how to fix our lights. Hope you and Jean have a great week! BTW - I bought a shirt! 😉

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Hey, thanks, Shelly. It's a really cool tool. I was hoping it was a shunt problem. That's such a fun way to fix bad shunts. It's like magic. But nope, was just a bad bulb. Thanks for the support!

[@bunberrier]

Thank you sir. The support wire was making my eyes glaze over wondering what the path was. Now I can ignore it and get to work.

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Boom! That's it exactly, Bunberrier.

[@terrymangum7635]

A very interesting and informative video Charlie. Always helpful to see an actual demonstration on how to identify and fix the problem. Can you do a demonstration on LED net lights with a section not working?

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

I can indeed, Terry. I'll get that going and out in a week or so for you.

[@kararussell4559]

I’ve tried to find the video for fixing led net lights but don’t see it anywhere…could you post the link?

[@karengildae3851]

Where do you get your replacement bulbs?

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Hey there, Karen. For my commercial-grade lights I order them from Creative Displays in KC: www.creativedisplays.com/

[@WillyJoeFilms]

Thanks I’ll try this out, mine are led bright bulbs

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Hey there, Willy. I'll be coming out with an LED version soon. Cheers!

[@redbirdsjunkie]

I have net lights that twinkle but today I noticed they're twinkling much slower than usual. Any ideas?

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Hey there, Red. If they are incandescent and have the white bulb with the red tip on it, that is the bulb that compels the lights to twinkle. Those have an average lifespan of 2,000 and it likely needs to be replaced. Another common issue is the lights are wet and have moisture in the line. Once it dries out, it should be back to normal.

[@georged7003]

Is it the same procedure for led lights?

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Somewhat, George. You can use the Light Keeper Pro to follow the power to check for breaks in electicity. For the bulbs not illuminating, you either the LED Keeper or the new LED Keeper Pro (amzn.to/49ezV8O) to find the flawed builb(s) like I do in this video:kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKmniaObr61pmcksi=0Qleu0P0_t4Wktd5 I hope that helps a bit!

[@patrickmurry2238]

My 1 year old net lights aren't working but the fuses are good and both wires passed the ohm test. How is it possible for the light set to show current through both wires yet none of the bulbs are lit?

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

The wires can still carry power without the bulbs illuminating depending upon a few things. You didn't mention if these were LED or incandescent lights. I'm guessing they are incandescent. These nets are only designed to last 1-3 seasons, unless you bought commercial-grade net lights. All incandescent Christmas lights have a 2,000 hour lifespan. It is very likely that these have at least 2 bad bulbs. My guess is yours are non-white bulbs which is preventing you from easily seeing the burnt out bulbs. Here's a pro tip: Use the shunt fixer on the Light Keeper Pro first as this is an easy time-saving trick to fix your nets without removing a single bulb. Also use a flashlight and look over your bulbs until you have found the bad bulbs. Here is a video on how to use the shunt fixer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqe8c4mmadJsmrssi=c9Z5Y5wczTYKIs83

[@marcybrooks3425]

I had two boxes given to me and they are a mess! Is there a trick to getting the grid released?

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Commercial-grade lights will generally have a quick release on the socket. This allows you to remove the net's guidewire when needed.

[@BajanTechie]

Hi Charlie I find that most LED net lights today the bulbs are sealed in the socket for waterproofing. How does this repair method apply to them?

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Great question, Ronald. My commercial-grade lights a sealed and wrapped. However, the end bulbs of the net, like mine, should be unwrapped allowing easier access for the Keeper's shunt device to attach. But all mini lights can be removed to allow a replacement bulb to be introduced. As long as the bulb is seated correctly, you will be good.

[@skabliggum7313]

I have LED net lights. What tester tool should I get?

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

That's a great question, Skab. Here ya go: amzn.to/34YsIdo

[@skabliggum7313]

@@ChristmasOnCrestline Thanks! Loved your video.

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

I appreciate that! Thanks so much!

[@davewilson6477]

What about how to fix LED net lights? I've used my LED Keeper Pro for years (and Light Keeper Pro during the incandescent era) but using it on net lights is maddening! There's nothing I can find on KZbin for LED net light repair. Please consider doing a segment on that...and thanks!

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Thanks so much for the suggestion! I know exactly what you mean-net lights can be tricky, especially with LEDs. I’m glad the LED Keeper Pro has been a go-to tool for you; it’s a lifesaver, even if net lights add an extra layer of challenge. My trick has become chip bag clips. I mark each section of the net that I've checked with a clip. This gives me a visual tip that I've checked that area already. Before I began using that method....it was HUGE pain remembering what I've checked and what I have yet to check!

[@davewilson6477]

@@ChristmasOnCrestline Thanks for the reply!

[@meaghans4591]

Do you have a video showing how the use the light gun thing with ac inlet

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

I have this video, Meaghan: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqe8c4mmadJsmrs

[@Buddha667]

What if all the bulbs are not reading power? I checked every one individually and they all work but I have one section that just won’t light up.

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

In this case, you likely either have corrosion in a bulb socket(s) or a break in the line. The break could be a physical break in the copper that is covered by the plastic and you aren't able to see it or, and the more likely cause, is that you have a bulb or bulbs that are not sitting perfectly in the socket. This could be because the copper prongs that appear on the bottom of each bulb may be too short or have broken off on one side or the other. Additionally, if these are incandescent lights, they may have overheated and charred the wire making them unfixable.

[@JediGamingX]

You mentioned that each net set has on each end a larger housing with 3 wires, question is, does the 2 blinker bulbs go on each end so that the entire net can flash? Having an issue where the left and right side flash but not the middle part.

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

If you are speaking of the red tipped bulbs that compel the rest of the lights to flash, those specific bulbs oftentimes are the cause of the power outage in the net. BTW- great handle, Jedi.

[@colinthain6744]

Hi Charlie, love your enthusiasm for these lights, fantastic! I live in the UK and my curtain lights are not working now. They flash once once and then stop. I have changed the 3 amp fuse, plug and even stripped the power wires at the ends to have a new connection but the same thing happens; it just flashes once and stops. I think the controller may be faulty. I have moved the connected wires inside the controller but this does not help the situation either. Do you think the controller electronics have given up the Christmas Ghost? :-( many thanks.

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Thanks for the kind words! It could be a simple fix, Colin. Does this set happen to have a red tipped bulb? If so, removing that bulb and replacing it with a normal bulb should solve the issue. Those red tipped bulbs are famous for screwing up a set of lights. If you don't have that, it is likely the controller box OR a simple setting on the box that needs to be adjusted. Does the box have different settings?

[@colinthain6744]

@@ChristmasOnCrestline Hi Charlie, many thanks for your very quick reply. It is an LED vertical light curtain with seperate long strands. The box does have several speed settings and is sealed in the lower bout where the majority of the pcb is, the top is accessible to where the seperate wires enter and are soldered onto the pcb. I know that the LED lights themselves are working as they do flash on once only so it must be the pcb itself has a fault then? Any ideas about what might be wrong with the pcb? Many thanks again.

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Those are rather tricky. One of the largest issues in the LED space is that the lights with the control boards, especially pre-lit Christmas trees, are not designed to be repairable. So, when a problem pops up, there is no way to resolve the problem, and you're stuck with a permanent problem. One day, someone will realize this is a legit problem and offer a true solution.

[@asadmahmood467]

How do you know a socket is not working. If the current is going in the socket and you have good bulb and it does not light does it mean the socket is not working. Is main reason the contact point are not connect to the light bulb? Thank for any help. I am struggling fixing a LED net lights.

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

That's a great question, Asad. Don't loose hope, I have some tips for you. First, let's check and make sure there is no corrosion or broken pieces in the socket. Use a flashlight and check the socket after removing the bulb. Secondly, you can use either a voltage detector (amzn.to/41g4man) to check if there is power both entering and exiting the problem socket. Third, you have the option of cutting and removing that socket from the line to bypass the issue like I do here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eom6pp-iqpd5is0si=ERCPniOL2-PycnL2 or you can choose to add a POD in place of the socket like I do here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4GyeJ-joN5oldEsi=4YQOw7Pg7_g8RuHS Lastly, make sure the bulb you are using has both of its copper prongs in tact. Many times they are too short and simply are not making proper contact sitting in the socket!

[@cynthiamoore9247]

What to do when whole set won't light?

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

That simply means you have multiple bulb failures, Cynthia. In my experience, when the whole set is dark, you'll have 4-5 bad bulbs or prong issues. Many times I've found I was missing a bulb or two and didn't notice as well. My personal record is 7 bad bulbs in one set.

[@kararussell4559]

Help! How do you fix LED net lights?? I’ve watched your video on how to fix a regular stand of LED’s but how does that work with a net? I have 3 sets with the middle section out 😡😡😡

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

LED nets are generally set up like a normal string, in sections. Use this tool: amzn.to/3Nur3lJ and it will guide you to the bad bulb, one section at a time. A normal string takes me 2 mins to fix. A net set will take me about 3-4 mins. The trick is to find the section that that net uses. It takes 1-2 mins to find the pattern and then you're good to go!

[@kararussell4559]

I tried, my husband tried, my father in law tried…maybe we’re just dumb! We’ve watched the LED tool video, your LED string video and the incandescent net light video hoping to be able to figure it out with the LED tool but with no luck. If you ever do a LED net light video it would be very helpful!!

[@debbierumburd5537]

Hi Charlie. My net lights seem to have more wires than the ones in your video. Also the wires are thicker. My net lights also have a control box to set different light functions, such as steady on, wave etc...

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Hey there, Debbie. The extra wires are a direct result from the control box. These style of lights, much like commercial-grade LED lights, take more time to trouble shoot. Most of the time, though not always, you have to check for power on all four points of each light as they oftentimes share power in a unique way. In other words, it is more difficult to tell which wire is actually carrying the power for each bulb. So, you have to scan a bit more.

[@howardgriffin2966]

I haveled net lights , 1 section the lights are barely lit the other section is bright, they did work now they don't seems to happen after rain and cold weather, net lights are new every year.

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Hey there, Howard. Two questions come to mind. One, if these are incandescent bulbs, they are notorious for dimming and going dark in prolonged exposure to moisture. Secondly, if these are new, you likely have a bulb with a short prong on it. Short prongs, when angled just right, will allow a set to come on. Then, when the wind moves it, the prong no longer has a solid connection and it goes dark. Lastly, the Keeper should help you diagnose the issue. I'm surprised it didn't help.

[@howardgriffin2966]

These are led. Is there any way to fix ? Thank you for your time.

[@greggedwards2296]

How do you fix led net lights

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Hello, Gregg. The fix for LED net lights depends if you have commercial or retail-grade lights. The quickest way is to start in the center of your non-working section of the net and to test on all four corners of the center bulb. This will show you the pattern your lights are wired in and speed up time it takes to find the bad bulb(s).

[@frankiep984]

What if the whole strand doesn’t work? I have already look at the fuses.

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Great question. You can plug it into a socket. Then, plug an additional set (that you know for a fact is functional) and plug that set into the first set. If that said illuminates, it's not the fuses. If all else fails, call 8888582548 and they'll have the answer! The Light Keeper Pro folks have never let me down!

[@RaymondaAlexander]

Didn’t work on my net lights. I guess you have to have the bulb tester in order to see which bulb is bad. I only have the voltage tester.

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Good call, Raymond. Normally, I end up using the Light Keeper to track the voltage and the LED Keeper to test the next. They just came out with a new LED Keeper Pro (www.ledkeeperpro.com/home/) last month.

[@RaymondaAlexander]

Thanks for the info.

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

@@RaymondaAlexander Anytime!

[@whiskeycoders9694]

Huh, who knew that was a support wire???? 😲

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Life's a mystery lol

[@MultiCasking]

😎🎄

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

🔥

[@tommcallister7647]

I wasted hours trying to test the circuits of a Christmas light net using my regular tester (shaped like a highlighter/magic marker). There was simply too much ambient electricity within the adjacent lights in the net so I was getting a great many false positives and couldn't identify the faulty light. I bought an LED Keeper Pro and had four light nets back in operation within 45 minutes. Don't waste your time like I did. Just buy the right tester.

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

BOOM! Love the advice, Tom.

[@nancyking3726]

What to do if the sockets are too big (because of the "hook" that connects them into the net configuration) to fit in the Light KP?

[@tommcallister7647]

@@nancyking3726I’m afraid I don’t understand what you mean about the ‘hook’. Please explain.

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

@@nancyking3726 Well, that is a pickle. If the sockets are oversized or blocked by material from the net, I don't think you would be able to use the shunt fixer on the device. You can use the LED Keeper or the brand new LED Keeper Pro to assist in finding the issue IF these are LED lights. Otherwise, my suggestion would be to phone the kind folks over at Ulta-Lit to find a workaround: Phone: [phone]. Don't worry, a human will answer and get your lights sorted out!

[@greatone33j]

One section of my net lights doesn't light up and I have run the light keeper pro over it and I can't find the bad bulb. It seems to beep over every wire and bulb. I've even manually checked all the bulbs in the unlit section and all are fine...

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Hmmm are they incandescent bulbs? That will normally happen when testing LED stands.

[@greatone33j]

@@ChristmasOnCrestline They are incandescent. I actually did find the culprit. The bulb wasn't bad but apparently it wasn't making a connection in the socket. I took it out and put it back in and voila, it worked.

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

That happens a lot. Just one prong gets a little short and the connection fails. Nice catch.

[@greatone33j]

@@ChristmasOnCrestline Thanks! So glad I found your channel. If you don't mind, I have a separate question about a set of LED net lights. 2 of 3 sections are out, but when I wiggle the wires a bit on one section, it will light. But if the wires are moved too much it will go out again. Any idea what the problem could be?

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

This sounds a lot like what happens when multiple sets are plugged in and the connection is loose. But when this happens with a single set of lights it is almost always a short prong issue. Every once in awhile it'll be a corroded socket. But normally it's just one bulb that has a short prong OR the bulb is not seated fully into the socket.

[@kimmarshall911]

How do you fix led net lights

[@ChristmasOnCrestline]

Hello, Kim. The easiest way to test LED net lights is to test all four wires surrounding the center of the net. This will help to show how the power is wired throughout the lights. LED nets take the longest to diagnose the bad bulb. But, don't loose faith. It can be done!