How to Fix Toro Personal Pace Mower Rear Wheel Drive Grinding

[@DIYReid]

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[@savipv8491]

how to replace Toro 108-9781 Arm-Pivot Rear?

[@SId-gb1qr]

how to replace Arm Pivot Rear for Toro M 20332 S 311087676 ? thanks

[@citizenarcane9092]

Thanks for the video it described exactly what was wrong with my model 20316 20in Recycler/Rear Bagging Lawn Mower. Found that the replacement wheels on my model now have the metal gears mounted on the wheels and require replacing the pinion gear as well. For my model 20316 the new wheel part number is 105-3036, the pinon gears are 131-5399. Buy a few snap rings 32151-61 while you're at it - you may need them. Thanks for the vid and hope my info is as useful as yours.

[@mikehrdlicka8635]

I do alignment and check mesh. Also drive bearings inside of adjuster

[@budbone1955]

Both of my drive wheels were toed in facing the front. The bracket the wheel is screwed on was bent inward causing the wheel to be forward too much to mesh with the shaft gear causing the grinding noise and the stripping of both gears.I purchased two new shaft gears . The wheel gears looked good and I used a prybar to bend the brackets on the edge facing the front of the mower outward until they were parallel with each other with both wheels off . I put both rear wheels back on and the bending of the wheel mounting plate solved the problem ,

[@Casadejoe]

i just got one from the curb and it looks like this is the problem I am having as well.

[@nbpt1000]

Your wheel gears must not be plastic or they would have worn out first. How did that bracket get bent to begin with???? You have to wonder about that.

[@kommoncents0000]

My Toro mower had a metal gear that lost one of the teeth. The gear is riveted to the plastic part so they force you to buy a new wheel which is expensive. I was able to buy just the gear from toro. I drilled out the rivet heads and removed the bad gear, put the new one on the stems and welded the gear on the stems. I was going to try removing the rivets and putting screws in instead but the rivets wouldn't come out

[@GrizzlyJ44]

Great video, just get rid of the music so I dont have to listen so hard

[@joewest1972]

Second that.....

[@michaelblack3136]

Third that.

[@stanleyjones8152]

My laptop did nor show the bottom half of the Toro the whole time. That was what I needed! to reassemble the wheel.

[@njgrplr2007]

Did you say you need a new pinion gear if you switch to the wheels with metal gears?

[@ELS1SON]

Agreed with others, music and text don't mix. I may have to look for another video with clear sound.

[@tommcdonald53]

Doesn’t last long, replace the wheels with steel and new bearings, there is a kit out there with new smaller gears also

[@jamesp57867]

I did the same thing but mine will not turn. Any ideas?

[@GooglelyTube]

Replaced my wheels last year on my Toro Recycler 22" after trying to just deal with poor self-propel feature for a number of years. Found your video, when to my local Toro dealer and ordered replacement wheels with those stupid cheap plastic gears. Here it is just one year later, and I've got the same problem again. It may be the last Toro mower I buy if they haven't changed their design. I've had three Toros and each time they get made cheaper and cheaper while the price keeps going up. Briggs & Stratton motor is great, the rest of the mower........meh.

[@DIYReid]

They moved to metal on metal gears.

[@time.5316]

I hear your pain. Toro has forgotten their Midwest base. I've seen this in both the last mower and the last snowblower I've bought. No more Toros. Next time I'm buying Honda.

[@thebigv8644]

My toro does this too and it came with metal gears, no plastic in mine.

[@DIYReid]

Yup. The newer ones came with metal gears on the wheels.

[@jmabs5096]

The plastic drive wheel gear was replaced eventually. You can buy conversion kits for like 50 bucks. Now if I can get rid of the side to side movement that's the real question. I tried shims and they help. But even with metal and metal, the pinion gears will strip if your applying to more torque. I would recommend only setting your drive cable tension just enough to where you can fully depress the pace to the stop, but not have excessive torque to the wheels. Uneven terrain and turning while under load puts a lot of stress on the gears

[@mattnash9747]

Hey sir my personal pace wheels constantly spin. I tried looking into disconnecting the personal pace control handle but it’s tied into the blade motor. What kind of advice can you give me? Thanks.

[@coryshook7648]

I have metal gears on the wheels and the axle but the axle gears look bad where the wheel steel gears must be worn but they dont look worn or worn much at all. I ordered axle gears from Amazon. I know they can be installed wrong,(backward) but I will make sure I dont.

[@leekumiega9268]

I have a 28 year old Lawnboy Gold series made by Toro where the entire belt is on the top of the deck . The belt and the 3 speed transmission have never failed in all that time and I cut a 1/4 acre once a week. Why can't they make them like that anymore? Planed obsolescence ? Except for cleaning and greasing the small drive gears so they will slip when going backwards and replacing the wheels when they wore out and split the drive train has been trouble free. What recently failed the blower housing from metal fatigue where it bolted to the engine from so many pull starts and I replaced the pull cord itself once.

[@b.goodrum5481]

I have a 22"toro rear wheel grinding like crazy so bought all parts needed to repair and for the life of me I can't get the pinion gear off. I've tried light tapping on the geaqr, using a torch etc. Nothing works and it just won't come off. Any suggestions?

[@Hatron56]

why do these guys always put loud background music so loud you can;t hear anything they say clearly.?

[@tomking1890]

I agree music NOT required

[@VS-sd8vx]

You did not add grease to the gears.

[@brandonspicer2482]

My AWD 20353: My front drive works but the rear drive won't engage neither wheel moves automatically...help

[@stanleyjones8152]

My inability to see the bottom was a solvable thing. Not Reid's fault.

[@LeaperChad7]

Wheels roll while off the ground. Stop when on ground. Help. Changed belt. Inspected gear box. Grease dry. Idler pulley seems to be worn. Belt fits too close to inside

[@DIYReid]

Check your drive adjustment cable

[@LeaperChad7]

Already did. Nothing. Grinding sound cause rear pulley hits back wall. No clue. Wheels stopped spinning period too. Shiiit

[@Neolantis]

Link goes to home page. Any update?

[@DIYReid]

What link

[@breaddrinker]

I'm getting a really strange pinging sound from the drive wheel on the left when it's engaged and in motion but not cutting. Thought for a while it was a loose blade, but definitely the drive wheel.. Any idea?

[@DIYReid]

Have you taken that wheel off to inspect?

[@breaddrinker]

Yes, it looks super good in there. No worn teeth or anything out of alignment. I cleaned out some dirt and lubed it. I did notice my drive cable had somehow slipped and was effectively trying to engage the wheels even without the handle being pushed in. I adjusted it so it can idle without movement.. The belt does seem a little slack. I'm wondering if the pinging I was hearing was from the drive belt being able to slip while being engaged. It only happened while moving, but.. While I see how the axle contains a crude kind of transmission in the way it rocks back and forth to tighten the belt to engage it, that belt still does look mighty loose to me. I don't see an obvious tensioner.

[@breaddrinker]

​@@DIYReid I've taken it apart three times now and seem to go further each time. I decided to take the whole axle out to see if the bearings were jammed up, as I wasn't getting any movement at all on the right now. Once I'd figured out how to free it, I could see the bearing wasn't locked at all, but the axle on the bad wheel side just pulled right out of the transmission. I figured it had sheared a pin or something.. But now I have it open, I find all the parts fully intact, non leaking, non worn, with the shaft pin just laying in a pool of grease stuck to the transmission case. Can't imagine what could have caused it to work free, and somehow also not destroy the rest of the trans.. Looks like all it needs is a clean up and some fresh grease and liquid gasket.. Weird..

[@pondjc]

Looks like Serial #313999999 and earlier have the plastic gears.

[@jeffbey6944]

No mention of the washer between the inner gear and the wheel. That's the one he probably dropped on the floor.

[@richarddixon9868]

Mine dropped to the floor, only reason I watched this video was to determine exactly where it fell from...lol. Your comment answered my question!

[@stevesolt4036]

Music and talking together never works.

[@frederickbrock2740]

True

[@brucem6442]

You can get the metal ones now with a new pinion gear. Sure beats the plastic b.s

[@DIYReid]

I know the newer mowers have them.

[@rickbrady7414]

I did this fix and now my bag is to short to fit in the slots, anyone else have this problem and how did you fix it?

[@DIYReid]

How is that even possible

[@rickbrady7414]

@@DIYReid I didn't need to change the wheels because the gears looked fine. I used spacers to straighten the towed in wheel. Maybe I used too many washers and it pushed the plate out too much or the bag pins are shorter than normal.

[@stevewetzel7457]

@@rickbrady7414 don't use washers, bend the bracket to line up the wheel!

[@grega.7107]

I fixed mine, but it was just due to wear-n-tear. I didn't replace wheels, add spacers, etc. (yet). My bag bracket (metal frame) was always JUST a bit too short, and one side or the other would slip out. I CAREFULLY drilled down the center of the metal frame rod, threaded it with a tap, and added a standoff on each side, with thread-locker fluid. the standoff is something like this: www.amazon.com/Small-Parts-310806HMA-Aluminum-Male-Female/dp/B07K35LV62/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=threaded+standoff&qid=1617643299&sr=8-2 . I had some laying around that worked. It's very easy to destroy your bag frame if you screw up, so don't.

[@kielq123]

Come on Reid you should have upgraded this to a new spur gear and Metal Gears on wheels

[@DIYReid]

Shoulda woulda coulda. If I picked this lawn mower up to keep I would have. I ended up selling it for what I had in it to a coworker in need.

[@tomleonard1589]

i don't think toro has metal gear for this model?

[@kielq123]

There's absolutely a metal gear and a metal sprocket option available you just have to know what you're doing. I've done the conversion dozens of times

[@tomleonard1589]

@@DIYReid Could you point me in the right direction to buy the right Parts? Model # 20333

[@tomleonard1589]

@@kielq123 Could you point me in the right direction for parts. I have Model 20333. I

[@JasonSmith-utube]

Recommendation: DONT ADD THE TERRIBLE MUSIC TO THE BACKGROUND.

[@DIYReid]

Ok

[@TEKLAZ]

So is junk? Honda best?

[@DIYReid]

They use metal gears now.

[@scottvan1898]

Honda engine top one, 👍but the left rear wheel & the transmission box, has same problem as the other name brand.

[@elfiero50]

Just another feature that toro stole from Lawn Boy

[@DIYReid]

Hard to reinvent the wheel

[@pinomarino8917]

What exactly did Toro "steal" from Lawn Boy? Toro has owned Lawn Boy since 1989

[@elfiero50]

@@pinomarino8917 you don't know much about large corporations do you? LB probably started designing that trans before 1985, for use on the "F" series lawnmower. Spend some time learning why companies buy each other before you make stupid comments.