How to Fly the FlightFX Vision Jet Like a Pro

[@marcschmidt2786]

Would love an actual tutorial like this in MSFS2024. There are almost zero irl pilots of the vision jet, that i know. Much appreciated content, hope for more! Actual one of my favorite to fly in the sim!

[@golfsierrahotel4806]

Possibly the most informative video I have ever watched, your knowledge of the aircraft and its systems is very impressive. Regards from England for 2023.

[@cadefoster9279]

Great tutorial! i really liked how you pointed out real life when it differed from the sim. Looking forward to seeing more of them. I hope FlightFX continues to get it as close to RL as possible.

[@oxysz]

Just started my first times flying with VATSIM and have used this jet for my first about 7 flights so far. It’s so amazing the info you gave in this also it makes me happy so see all the updates they did to make it like the real aircraft as you were saying they were missing in this video ! Thanks for the info and congrats on owning such an amazing jet

[@rockwjz]

What an incredible video man! Thanks a ton! I love flying the Vision Jet in MSFS so this is just so helpful to get really deep into the sim aspect of everything. What an incredible aircraft it is though... I've been doing maximum range trips to really push the jet as far as it can go going from PHLI to different Line and Cook Island airports in the Pacific and it's been so accurate with the fuel consumption. The plane is such a joy to fly too, it's slow to accept inputs, it's not overly touchy, and it's so easy to land with its lower approach and landing speeds. I'm envious you get to fly it in real life!

[@SamFarrow]

Your videos are fantastic Tim. Thank you for the effort!

[@zdp-189]

I love this- first time SIm Brief plans I messed w were able to be integrated into XBOX MSFS! Seeing the runway diagrams, procedure charts, glideslopes. etc. was so unreal (then weeks later I learned A310 can fetch my SimBrief FP too, along with Honda Jet I will buy very soon!) And this plane just WORKED flawlessly, integrated and streamlined like you said, no BS busy work buttons, very stable and practical at all phases of flight! I would love to fly in real one or learn so bad- probably none around here in CT.

[@rockwjz]

Truly one of the best jets in the game, makes it so easy and so much fun to just fly around with some really nice cruise speeds and altitude.

[@tman41291]

Definitely one of the best. Thank you for your contribution to the community!

[@marshalllll]

Awesome video. I love learning to fly these digital planes from pilots who fly the real thing.

[@KirkRoyster]

After many SF50 hours in MSFS, your content is helping me take it to the next level - greatly appreciated. One thing that would be really valuable is if you were to demonstrate one or two of the emergency scenarios that the training ctr focuses on during your annuals ... understanding that the sim is limited in that regard. My interest is in practicing some of the scenarios in this aircraft in the sim. I certainly can do that from the emergency procedures in the manual, but the perspective you bring in your online content is just fantastic, high value. And thanks for your active participation in discord as well

[@riscfuture]

Unfortunately a lot of the functionality required to simulate the emergency scenarios we practice in the TC are missing from the FlightFX sim. If they’re added (or if they’re in the RSG version for XP) I’ll make those videos.

[@andresm968]

Hi Tim, i just wanted to say thank you for this awesome video. I love this airplane on msfs 2020 and it’s amazing to get more knowledge from a real pilot. This makes our experience much more real :) greeting’s from Colombia

[@gabsmoscow]

By far the best video about this amazing plane; really well done, Tim! you for sure have a new subscriber

[@solarflare5616]

That’s actually a vams ipad located left side of captain seat between door. One click to bring it out. From there you can load family trip, golf trip and such which loads the appropriate luggage in storage compartment. Also has wheel chuck, storage cover and protective covers for turbine intake. Pretty neat.

[@dapperdanman7779]

This is a fantastic video! Thank you for putting it together, I'm loving this Flying iPad!

[@Steve-PT]

Great video, very informative. Love the comparison between the sim and real life. Thanks for making the video.

[@brandonchappell1535]

Not all hero's wear capes !! Incredible video man !! Gonna pick this up soon, and definitely feel smarter after watching this !!

[@andrewdstokes]

Excellent video, thanks Tim. I wanted a full intro to this new plane for me (MSFS), and your video was perfect!

[@ElevatorFan100]

I dont see the VAMS thing in my plane

[@riscfuture]

This video was made prior to the version 2.0 update. Now it’s controlled with the iPad

[@simulatedflyer]

This is awesome man!

[@r0tb3rt]

Bought the Vision Jet and love it. It was worth every penny and I would have paid the double the price. Love it.

[@ferrabras]

It's nice to hear from the real pilot. Awesome instructional flight.

[@chrisbaker5284]

Thanks, that was great to watch. Also, thanks for explaining how to get those god damn headphones off the dash!

[@jress9967]

A very informative tutorial of the Vision Jet, if possible please repeat same flight in the updated version of the vision jet. Looking forward to more of your videos.

[@riscfuture]

Not the same flight, but I have another flight video where I cover the new stuff.

[@tim8602]

Fantastic video thanks for all the information. I really enjoyed all the background details on training and where it happens. The problem with buying a new jet is it doesn't come with a manual or a checklist. If they included those I would probably buy more! Well thanks for taking the time to put up a video.

[@andysim232]

Was on the fence about buying this addon. No regret at all. Love the visibility which us a good match for MSFS.

[@yams900]

Thx heaps ! High tempo so I need to watch this video a few times. I'll check your other videos as well :)

[@dhultgren1]

A beauty of a Jet Tim.

[@ComdrStew]

Nice a real SF50 pilot. I just bought the SF50 G2 one off the market. I always loved Cirrus planes and would love to fly the Vision Jet someday.

[@cryptofxalgorithms]

The vision jet to me is outstanding as per safety redundancies built into it including the auto landing and parachute systems. A step further I ll love to see as an improvement or addition is in auxiliary or redundant pilot probes with heaters in case the primary ones fail.

[@riscfuture]

Agree with that, would be nice to see the two pitot probes heated by separate systems, or the addition of an auxiliary pitot probe.

[@eddyg1794]

Wow what a great informative video of the Vision Jet. Thanks so much for taking the time to produce this.

[@realrussclarke]

Fantastic video I might be going to work as a vision pilot this helped tremendously

[@adf286]

This is amazingly informative! Thank you my friend you are brilliant!

[@Part_121]

"Punishment Vectors" ( 46:35 ) is going to be the name of my next band! Excellent video! Have you considered doing a "differences" video (pre vs post release) now that the jet has had a couple of updates? I don't own it yet so I'm not sure of the impact of the updates. It's possible they are not substantial enough to warrant a video.

[@riscfuture]

Probably not until the big Working Title update.

[@DownTheRabbit-Hole]

Wait till aau1 msfs update end of january.

[@JohnVanderbeck]

@@riscfuture Where are things these days?

[@Assassin1959]

Awesome video... thanks for sharing!

[@blackbeardsghost6588]

EXCELLENT video. Thanks!

[@brahmsforever4313]

Loved this video! Thank you for the efforts! I love the AC and so happy that FlightFX made a good one. Lots to improve but they will I'm sure. AND WT will help! Keep up the great work!

[@SQTierHog]

Pilot is actually a pilot on this jet? Subbed! Lol

[@gweilo8888]

This was super helpful and interesting, thanks for sharing! I'm looking forward to more Vision Jet content in the future. :)

[@Narxes081206]

Love this jet in xplane 11 and the caps system did work in xplane 11. Thanks for the video. They've added more functional features, a quick revisit would be great.

[@riscfuture]

Update published: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKaml6eel8mSnrc

[@Narxes081206]

@@riscfuture Thanks, I did see it and watch it. Great video!

[@pedrosolfer]

Thank you Tim awesome explanation!! hope to talk to you some day greetings from Mexico City

[@williamwidjaja850]

Hello from indonesia, thank you america

[@guitarmanjon]

Great video. I used it to create my own cheat sheet for start up of this lovely little plane in MSFS. Thanks for creating it! Quick question to anyone - how do I move around the cockpit so fluidly as shown in this video? That’d make my virtual flying so much more enjoyable.

[@riscfuture]

I use TrackIR

[@DCSHacks]

Absolutely fantastic! What key binds do you use for the check list/MFD pages. Many thanks and looking forward to checking out more of your content!

[@riscfuture]

No key binds, I just mouse everything.

[@parkerforte]

Excellent! Thanks for sharing!

[@ScalpnGo]

Tim if you're ever in San Antonio area would love to see the Honda Jet. BTW, this Veteran rolled USAF, lol, but the Honda Jet may be on my bucket list next year.

[@bankabled]

Very nice. Thank you.

[@pedrolane8347]

Cheers Tim,well done.

[@chrismcnabb797]

Great job! Thank you!

[@ronstuveling]

Great videos thanks

[@jasontipton8430]

hey i live right by mcgee tyson thats my airport in the sim very cool. do you work for cirrus? 5 right engine failure you can just land on alcoa highway lol

[@riscfuture]

No, but I have to go to KTYS every year for recurrent training.

[@luarvikluarvik4276]

Thank you so much for this instruction. My question is that I do not see the TOD marker on the map. Is there a setting that needs to be turned on> to display the TOD point?

[@riscfuture]

There’s nothing to turn on, but you do need downpath waypoints with altitude restrictions.

[@luarvikluarvik4276]

@@riscfutureThank you, got it!

[@District.24]

@TimMorgan Thank you for a wonderful instructional video, Tim. I would like to ask you some questions - I hope you don't mind. Q1. What is the RA on your PFD, and how do you turn that feature on? Q2. Do I have the following correct: 140 kts to IAF, 120 kts to FAF, Vapp to fence and Vrep (+gust) to flare?

[@riscfuture]

RA is the radar altimeter, and it automatically shows below 2500’ RA. The Cirrus Approach is 180 when cleared to the IAF, 140 and flaps 50 until the FAF, and then green donut plus 5 and flaps 100 at the FAF. However we never fly that way outside of training; ATC would murder me if I flew that slow in reality.

[@District.24]

@ Interesting. Thank you.

[@gianpaolochibbaro1265]

Thanks for the very useful video ...may I ask you if the plane livery used in the video , comes from standard Cirrus Vision liveries package ?

[@riscfuture]

Yes, it is

[@wyntje83]

this is an awesome video, thanks! relative to other payware aircraft in msfs2020 I think the one by FlightFX for the Vision Jet is really high level, too high level.

[@LivnTheDream]

Hey Tim, just found your channel (subscribed) this morning after purchasing the FlightFX Vison jet yesterday. Loving it and not a massive stretch after having the HondaJet for more than a year. 2 questions: 1-what is you suggested trim setting? 2-Are there no landing call outs - Mins, 50, 40, 30 etc

[@riscfuture]

As long as trim is in the green band you are good for takeoff. There are no landing callouts because it is a very small aircraft and therefore the flare guidance is not needed. There should be a minimums callout though.

[@Dennree99]

Great video Tim. Are you planning on doing another video once the new G3000 is implemented perhaps?

[@riscfuture]

Done and done. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKaml6eel8mSnrc

[@tup6126]

Any plans to do a brand new video now that v2 has been released...?! Would be cool! I do think things will work more like they should now!

[@riscfuture]

Update published: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKaml6eel8mSnrc

[@despacitoRC]

Thank you!

[@1spdpd]

Great Overview! Do these external info sheet come with the plane? or did you grab them off the net?

[@riscfuture]

No, that’s the magic of video editing

[@jress9967]

Do you set climb speed when you sel FLC before take off, or let the auto throttle set the the climb speed?

[@riscfuture]

IRL, all you have to do is turn on the A/T in FMS mode and it will set it automatically. Not working in the sim yet.

[@JohnVanderbeck]

Not sure if the A/T is just still not working properly or if there is an approach mode to activate? I might have done something wrong but just flew my first flight in this and the A/T never targeted speeds for approach.

[@CristianCalhoun]

I'm so grateful! Thank you, Captain! Anyway... Why aren't the throttle detents simulated? O.O

[@darrenberkey7017]

Cool video, lots of details to know, thanks! Question though, and despite many years of flight simming, I'm still learning when it comes to flight planning, so when you entered the "direct to" command to Nashville (25:42), wouldn't that normally wipe out all of the previously entered waypoints? Or am I thinking of the Garmin 430/530?

[@riscfuture]

Yes, in the real jet, selecting D-> does not delete previous fixes in your flight plan.

[@dogdog92000]

Hi. If my understanding's good, the toggle button guarantees the vertical rate selected by the VS button? Thanks.

[@riscfuture]

Not sure what you’re asking. Which toggle button?

[@MarcoMistretta]

Where do you put in the NAV the ILS 27 frequency of 108.7?

[@riscfuture]

It's programmed automatically when you select the approach. If needed, you can manually tune the nav radios from the comms display on GTC3.

[@defect2889]

great video thank you LQQks like fun to me..

[@fergatROn]

Great video! I loved the comparison with what you do in RL and what the sim can support. It really helps guide me as I practice how to fly this in the sim. In the real plane do you pull up charts on screen or do you have an EFB with all your charts?

[@riscfuture]

Either or both. Depends on what information I want in front of my face.

[@lydiallobregat5872]

amazing ! thx 🙏

[@eduardopatino6678]

Thanks for the video. I was looking into the specific procedure to prepare for Takeoff, when the pilot have to set the TOGA mode, but I was somewhat confusing in the video (a bit too fast) and I'm still wondering where the button/switch is located in both the real aircraft and in MSFS. Could you please?

[@riscfuture]

TO/GA is located on the throttle, where your pinky is when grabbing it.

[@BostonClipper]

With the release of the MSFS FlightFX model, I think and hope you will get a lot more traffic.

[@richardcarter5404]

I have just picked up the Vision Jet and for some reason in the utilities menu I cannot access the weight and fuel screen or in the Initialization page I cannot access the weight & balance page so cannot perform the initiation properly. Am I missing something? I can set the fuel and payload from the default MSFS menu though. Thanks for making this video

[@riscfuture]

I recommend using the FlightFX discord for product support

[@sanahaskuranage8071]

Mind if I ask what you do for a living ? Love the vid.

[@PiAir172]

Enjoying your SF50 series, I noticed in another video (also 4 months ago) that you managed to turn off yaw damper on short final, no mention about it (after video editing I think), but not this time. Unless I missed it, there's no button to activate or deactivate it. I've tried to associate a button on my Bravo Throttle cadran, but it doesn't go off after turning yellow and flashing for one second! So, how can we control it in the SF50 ? All the aircraft I've flown so far in msfs, we have to deactivate it before landing. Thanks

[@riscfuture]

Like so many things in the vision jet, it’s automatic. Comes on/off passing through 200 feet.

[@PiAir172]

Thanks for the answer, this is what I thought after seeing a few more videos from others. But in this video, it did not deactivate so I was surprised. This is like almost all the flight I have done so far with the plane, it won't go off. I'll check again. Anyway, always interesting to see real life videos also, heers !

[@CristianCalhoun]

If I turn on autothrottle during climbing, it CANCELS FLC and doesn't change the current speed anymore. However! It keeps climbing forever, ignoring the set altitude target! Why is that? I tried out many variations of settings in the cockpit, also rewatched your instructions several times, but still can't figure out what's going on. :/ Also, VNAV sometimes simply forgets to follow up to the next leg and just keeps altitude. And I have to go around, because I miss my glideslope. Do I do something wrong, or it is really this buggy, and I should just use VS?

[@roadcyclist1]

Any idea where external temp is displayed? Also, how do we use toga button and is there a way to change fms settings on autothrottle?

[@Just_lift_anyone]

Outside Air Temp is MFD -> Aircraft Systems -> Status & Info ..not sure about the FMS, would like to know that myself

[@rayperez2147]

Hi I would like to know how to calculate fuel for a determined flight. Thank you.

[@riscfuture]

How complex do you want to be? Simplest thing to do is assume 90 gallons for the first hour, 65 gallons an hour thereafter, and land with 70 gallons of reserves. More complex would be to use the actual fuel consumption tables in the AFM, or a flight planner that can do the math for you.

[@en7165]

I find the jet quite twitchy. Would you mind sharing your joystick sensitivity settings?

[@SoupGuyy]

Hey how do you turn of the red lights in cockpit when flying at night and how do you see which altitude you should be at different legs ?

[@riscfuture]

The red lights in the overhead are on all the time in the real jet, day and night. To know which altitude you need to be at, you can consult the chart for the DP/STAR or check the flight plan page (in the real aircraft).

[@7willymak]

Wish I could use this jet. I suffer from screens shorting out and loss of all autopilot at random times. I have a beefy pc with a 4070ti and this is the only plane this happens on. Anyone else having these issues? It really seems like it’s the plane and not anything else because nothing like this happens on any other plane even ones with g5000s. I hope they fix this because I love this plane.

[@rockwjz]

Do you have any mods installed? Some of them, even on the Xbox, were messing with my planes FMS and MFD's so it's good to check into that and start uninstalling some to see if they are the issue.

[@theghost9999]

How do you acknowledge alerts like the probe heat.?

[@riscfuture]

In the real aircraft, you can tap the caution indication on the GTC in order to acknowledge the alert. That’s not modeled in the Sim yet.

[@theghost9999]

@riscfuture thank you! I thought I was just crazy for a moment lol.

[@stephenalberts6873]

How does one manage VNAV in the climb phase with waypoint ALT restrictions on a SID, I seem to bust all ALT restrictions on the SID in VS mode?

[@riscfuture]

The Perspective Touch does not respect vertical restrictions in the climb, only in the descent. You must set the altitude bug yourself to keep from busting altitudes.

[@quentinm11_]

I could not find the vans page would love if you could comment on this and tell ne

[@riscfuture]

It moved to the iPad in the latest version.

[@shanecalkins8045]

is there a solution to connecting to an external gpu when there is no option at the airport I am starting at? My I keep getting an engine bus volts warning and a few mins later it will shut off

[@shanecalkins8045]

I meant to say engine start volts warning

[@fadi8396]

I have a problem with this plane. It's veering off approach, what is the reason

[@swedishguyflies9077]

On takeoff : So the TOGA button that is modeled in MSFS is not any real thing ?

[@riscfuture]

Yes, there is a TOGA button on the real aircraft

[@beausbargarage6213]

i dont have gps available on my sim it has nav com and fms? any thouhgts

[@riscfuture]

FMS is GPS mode

[@brunogt1982]

Any new update this jet?

[@bbecks04]

Is there a course knob? Trying to fly an approach w/ green needles but can’t figure out how to change the course .

[@riscfuture]

In the real aircraft, when the course mode is set to NAV1/2 or OBS, the small knob on GTC1 becomes a course selector. Not implemented in the sim.

[@DownTheRabbit-Hole]

@@riscfuture it has recently been implemented on the large knob on gtc1. Great video, btw. Transitioning from arrival to approach to faf is rather bizarre in msfs g3000/5. I think aau1 msfs update and 3x yearly aau's, will address many of these issues. Love the end to end flights. Consider shorter rw flights, like TEC routes in ZLA like pilotedge, then use active pause to explain. Still should be under 1hr. Love CU of instruments, don't care about scenery as much in training videos. Good luck.

[@DownTheRabbit-Hole]

@@riscfuture consider kbur to klas as a great end to end dp/star example for g2. 250 speed restriction on rndrz2 arrival is max.

[@bxchris]

thanks bro

[@l-vinotrading4450]

Stupid question: I can‘t find where to set the altimeter. Where can I set it?

[@riscfuture]

There’s a BARO knob on the center panel between the PFD and MFD.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

Does anyone know 1 year later if this product took off? is it worth it? thanks so much, just following up now they they've had a chance to get all the bugs out.

[@RogueAgentX]

I love this plane in msfs and I see a fair amount of them flying around in game.

[@H_G2013]

Can you do a video like this in msfs2024

[@dirtytreerat14]

I’m confused with auto thrust. I activate it on climb and it’s set to around 150ish. Then it randomly starts decreasing over time and I stall..

[@riscfuture]

The auto thrust changes from IAS hold to Mach hold at 18,000 feet. In the real aircraft, this is indicated by the speed target changing from (e.g.) 150 knots to M0.231. What altitude are you stalling at? The ceiling is 31,000 feet.

[@dirtytreerat14]

@@riscfuture Thanks for responding. I was stalling at ~14,000 feet, well below the change from IAS to Mach. I had VS set in the ballpark of 2500-3000 fpm. When the aircraft began stalling I lowered the fpm to ~1000 and the aircraft was barely recovering and above stall speed. I tried to take the aircraft out of AT but even when I did I couldn’t go past 30% and could barely regain my speed back. Not sure what caused this one that flight, could’ve very well been my VS. I tried again a few more times after writing this comment and noticed that when I set the AT to MAN and set the it to 165 manually it would *kind of* stay at my selected climb speed of 165. It would dip down to 145 at some times for no reason and then go back up. During that attempt I was climbing at 1300 fpm.

[@riscfuture]

@@dirtytreerat14 the vision jet cannot sustain 3000 fpm above about 6000 feet or so. This is why we climb in FLC mode and not VS mode. An engine’s ability to generate thrust decreases with altitude. 30% thrust is normal at high altitudes.

[@dirtytreerat14]

@@riscfuture That makes a lot of sense as to why I was stalling. Thank you for replying.

[@captm1297]

awsome

[@patgenest9961]

can I cross this over to Xplane, in general?

[@riscfuture]

No, X-Plane is a completely different sim with its own API.

[@zephirusvideos]

Are you using TrackIR?

[@riscfuture]

Yes

[@markmizrahi5105]

Are you using VR with the Sim?

[@blindsight_music_]

looks like trackIR

[@NickEvans80]

Cant be track IR or Tobii, those work, but not very well with this plane, you cannot move your head forward and backwards with this one.

[@blindsight_music_]

@@NickEvans80 what? you can.. that’s what profiles are for

[@swedishguyflies9077]

One more, so there is no Taxi light ?

[@riscfuture]

The landing lights can serve as a taxi light

[@ItsMe-ls6ek]

how do you get the checklist to show on the right mfd. When i toggle my checklist it comes on the left mfd

[@riscfuture]

In real life you just press the checklist button on GTC2 when the MFD is active, but the checklist button isn’t implemented in the sim.

[@bronzecossack]

Mine with real turbulence shakes like it ride a bad road…