How to FPV (Part 6) LiPo Battery Management | Make your LiPos last longer!

This video dives into Lithium Polymer batteries and the fundamentals of making these expensive power bricks last longer than you ever thought they could. Battery management.
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[@jasonvoorhees4873]

this man freestyled everything, not one single cut, respect

[@TheFlyingKiwiNZ]

clearly a sign he knows his shit. Like seriously knows it. Eat breathe sleep walk FPV

[@jakubunold5750]

perhaps he was recording on a drone and battery life was limiting length of the video :P

[@bobscott117]

Have you asked him out yet? That mustache is calling ya buddy

[@PhillGraaf]

CRAZY!

[@minkorrh]

When your hobby is your passion, you can talk about it all day. All the learning was never 'work' and was absorbed considerably easier than algebra I'm sure. Get me on topics like FPV, Electronics or guitar and you'll be looking for the door lol.

[@angelobao7494]

You have been contributing to the community for so long now !! Thank you for your hard work and thank you for passing on all that knowledge. Cheers Steele

[@IshamPadron]

One of the most comprehensive videos on LiPo batteries as it relates to RC Aircrafts that I have ever seen. Thank you!

[@ze2004]

i like the ducky in the corner XD

[@DynamixTV]

@@caseharley6509 Wooowww damn, you are like the lowest tier of scammers then?

[@ken-kamm]

It’s really awesome of you to make this video series. I’m a relatively experienced pilot and builder, having been into FPV for almost 4 years now. Like yourself. But I still enjoy watching the videos, and it’s really cool to see that you are willing to share all of your knowledge. You are helping to bring new pilots into our hobby, and that is priceless. The more the merrier.

[@marsmachine1156]

Might just be the best video on Lipos 🔋 on the interweb! ...runs 🏃🏻‍♂️ home in a panic to put lipos on storage voltage! 🤣 Keep up the great work!

[@whiteknight7wayne493]

The guy can speak! Thats always endearing.

[@dialaprohq]

got into fpv about 30 days ago. watched 100s of videos and learned a lot. Somehow you havent popped into my feed yet I have heard your name a dozen times. This was my first video and feel like I messed up by not watching your video's sooner. Great video !! Ill definitely will be watching more.

[@lgv2069]

Steele is the shit

[@scottmarshall6766]

For new flier that wants to "future proof" (and have the "hot setup like Steele") of 6S, they can build/buy a 6S and limit the throttle to 70%. The bonus (besides being able to "turn it up" when ready) is about 25-30% more flight time. That's a very nice thing all by itself, and you will get longer battery life because you are babying them flying like that. Good video!

[@jewishjitsu]

I want to try that. Whats a good 6s grade motor for freestyle? I fly a 5", with 4s, HT Cricket 2450s + 5×4×3s. Looking for smooth maneuvering with good punchout for flicks.

[@scottmarshall6766]

@@jewishjitsu The Xing 2208 1700kv on the Mamba Stack is my go to setup turning 6" (or larger) props on a Iflight long arm frame with DJI video (it's worth the weight and money IMO). If you're new to the game, or just enjoy proximity and flying thru the air like me, consider the 6" setup. With good batteries (RDQ 6S1250) you'll get super smooth flight and long flights as well as a rugged package that you can fly more than fix. On 4S you'll lose quite a lot of flight time, but it'll still fly fine although not so "punchy" on the hit. 6" on 6S is my favorite and it'll still do the flippity flip thing, but a tad slower (and easier to master), but is much more enjoyable if you just enjoy flying and aren't making videos for the youtube gang. If you're looking for 5" extra light, extra full speed stuff - The Xing 2207 1800 (you can get them in 1700kv or 1800kv) would probably be better for a strictly 5" setup like yours. A Mamba stack on Betaflight defaults ought to fly great if you limit the throttle to 50 to 75%. Make sure you don't just chop the top off, you need to reset the span so you get full range throttle control. Looks at Oscars rundown on setups like this (oscarliang.com/best-motors-props/). The 2207 is a great motor, I'm using them on 6" machines on 6S, and they work hard, but pull plenty hard, and still live. For strictly 6" I run the wider 2208. Smooth thru the middle with a top on that comes on plenty hard, but not so abrupt it's just a moonshot. You can play with betaflight and smooth things out a bit if you want to go more cinematic. I'd bet if you use the 2207 1800kv in your setup with throttle set to top out from 50 to 75% (depending on how new you are and how smooth you'd like it) You'll find it flies great on defaults. Hope that helps. Try the 6" 2208 setup if you have the budget, you won't be sorry. It's a bit bigger and still rips, but slows down nicely, which is fun, especially if you have High def video. If you need to know more hit me back again. Happy flying!

[@jewishjitsu]

@@scottmarshall6766 Thank you for the detailed response. Ill look into buying a Armattan 6" tonight. Thanks! Sidebar, a 2208 would be taller than a 2207, not wider, wouldn't that only help with high end?

[@karmakazi219]

I'm just moving from off the shelf "toy" quads to starting my own build(s). These videos are super-helpful. Thank you.

[@ledchickenfpv7164]

Holy hell! It's Steele from the future! I'm watching this in January 2019, but for him in the video it's already Febuary 2019! Boom. Mind blown.

[@0815name0815]

Just finished my first build yesterday and wanted to charge my first lipo at the weekend. Perfect timing for this video 🙌

[@christiandestradis1263]

The best video on Lipos on KZbin so far. That was very helpful. Thank you very much 👏👏

[@pavelkolomiyets4487]

Your depth of knoweledge is very apparent in your videos. Thank you for sharing your advice with us. There's something about your demeanor that tells me you would rather be flying and this makes you more convincing.

[@ruizinkpt]

S means cells in a series configuration (most common) - used to increase overall pack voltage. P means cells in a parallel configuration (less common) - used to increase overall pack capacity.

[@quantumguy9659]

Series is used to control voltage delivery. It's easier to lower voltage than to rise it. Parallel is for delivering large currents.

[@dmalovic]

Mário Rui Santos and capacity is exactly the same, 4 1000mAh cells have the same capacity either in series or parallel.

[@jewishjitsu]

@@dmalovic but it draws more amps because of less available volts, yes?

[@WildpixFPV]

I'm still happy on 4S lipos, and you are the first pilot to confirm my handling with them, not over-discharging and taking care of the babes made them live long and healthy! 😂😅 No, I don't give them names!

[@MrSteeleFPV]

Hahaha. Naming packs would be funny though

[@coincoinfpv9503]

Yeah!!!! I love the duck on your side :D Duck power! Coincoin! Thanks Steele for all those info. One additionnal thing is: they don"t like cold, and reach the down limit very fast when you pull on them.

[@marinehm]

Who doesn't have a duck? I do! Hahahaha

[@opossumfpv]

I'm a noob in the fpv community. What's up with the duck??

[@canadiangemstones7636]

@@opossumfpvSame meaning as an upside down pineapple.

[@illpro2]

Congratulations!!! Sorry I'm a little late but I just realized you passed 200,000 subs. Probably the only drone guy I follow with that many subs.

[@stu22uk]

I second that... Fly until cruise or hovering touches a steady voltage of 14.0 - 14.2v, once unplugged the battery will rest at 14.8 - 15.0v. My batteries have a longevity and never puff even though I fly em' hard. Happy flying to all.... 😎

[@NielGuilarte]

Being totally new to fpv I was super happy to find this video! It really helped me to learn the basics especially battery storage and I even ordered a lipo bag for added safety. Thanks for the great video!

[@kingfpvmobilefpv3210]

Excellent info. Only 2 people i trust for battery info & thats you & joshua bardwell. Not even manufacturer. Thumbs up, dromie! I feel good ive gotten 2 years out of most of my batteries

[@bluelinefpv559]

Legit info from a professional pilot! What more could anyone ask for?

[@playmatee1]

When to read this voltage numbers ? 1in flight ? 2 if landed and motors are spinning air mode ? 3 when dissarmed ? I believe 3, so inflight u can go a bit lower in volt

[@Enderkruemel]

3.7 after flight, in flight i drain my lipos down to 3.1/3.2 v per cell.

[@Enderkruemel]

What should be right? i use them for over 3 years now and I had no Problem whith this, the capacity is only slightly reduced becourse they are old. (

[@villadante]

I came back a couple of time in the last year... Very valuable stuff! Thanks

[@marinehm]

This is great! You summed up everything I needed to know in one video. -1 topic. Charging amperage for 4s, 6s, 1300mah, 1500 mah, 70C vs 100C batteries. Never mind. You did! Watching that 1 next.

[@MrSilvervw]

As a beginner these videos are very helpful thank you for taking the time in doing them.

[@DougEfresh.]

Really great advice. I never knew how long to really wait after they've been charged, thanks.

[@balint133]

You've nailed it man... I fully agree landing at nominal voltage (14.8V) although it's quite hard to comprehend for a beginner. Well, at least it was for me :D I tend to keep flying until it show 14.3-14.4 on the OSD while slow cruising that's roughly 14.8 after landing. Your video is super helpful, I've learned it the hard way though :(

[@billybbob18]

I have something to say about the Rotor Riot Practice Battery. It great! It's the first battery I bought for my hawk 5 and it's still like new in the way it performs. Sure it's a heavy 1500mah tank, but the cells are especially good. No joke. I'm not affiliated with RR in any monetary way. It's that good. I've ran it down to 11v multiple times. No puffing or loss of capacity. Slight volt sag is all I saw. Battery stays cool no matter what and it's the only battery that I never had to repair the balance leads on.

[@acroquad1407]

The best video on LiPo care I have seen. Cheers.

[@griffinfpv7750]

THANKS STEELE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE VERY INFORMATIVE ANSWERS ALL OF MY QUESTIONS THAT I HAD ABOUT LIPOS 🙏

[@MrSteeleFPV]

🙏🏼. Super glad I can help man. Video coming out soon about charging :))). Maybe tomorrow evening.

[@GigawattsFPV]

Superb video, really informative and well put together. You’re knocking it out the park with this ethix stuff my dude! I have to say loving the S3’s man, there so responsive and have proven to be really durable. I didn’t expect any prop to drag me away from my long standing cyclone addiction!

[@fpvgreybush9317]

Great video Steele

[@opossumfpv]

Great advice to put the date on the batteries. Thanks!

[@michaelnichols1977]

Thanks for the great info and all your efforts in helping the community!

[@richardwatt911]

Good Video. Spot on advice. Just the facts, without all the Technical jargon, that goes right over the head of most newbs anyway.

[@toddspeck9415]

You always inspire me in this hobby. Really dig how you take care of your equipment. That sponge bob trick was sick. Peace out Mr.Steele.

[@martinmacdonald2010]

Thanks... you've confirmed I'm doing the right thing. I stop at 3.5 in flight which is 3.7 resting. Not because I can't get more but because the thing flys terrible.

[@Andrew-FKF]

Comparable power setups for 6s vs 4s please. Looking forward to that video

[@xxO2Plusxx]

Thx a million for this video. Helped me a lot :) High five from Norway

[@yuginoty65]

Great vid Steele! I'm a destroyer of 1S batts in brushless whoops. Charging the 1S batteries at high currents just as to not run out of charged batteries for the next race. Batteries are almost hot after a race in my son's Blade BL. My HVs, 4.35V, last less time than another BL running 4.2V 1S batts. Keeping up with charged batts per race, with three chargers, my Bets 75 Pro and my son's BL, making it through a two minute race, just seems to be a recipe for battery death. My 4S Ghost though gets great battery life. I think for the reasons you mention. More voltage overhead. Luckily 1S whoop batteries are cheaper, yet I purchase quite a few at a time. Aw, the early days of Inductrix flying! Little kwads, cheap easy batteries, long fun flight times..... Peace...Guy

[@natemanafter]

Thanks! I'm really looking forward to the 4S/6S video.

[@jtroutt19]

Great video man very good information. A lot of people don’t care of their packs. I learned a lot about what it means to care for lipo packs when I started buying 12s 5000mah for my helicopters 300 bucks a battery hurts when they go bad early because you didn’t take care of em.

[@denniskatinas]

Awesome series, FPV needs this content so much. Cheers!

[@cj691]

I was able to revive a pretty new LiPo that was connected to a flyaway that was found some days later. That battery was flat. I charged it on a NiCd setting at 100mA until the cell voltage was high enough that lipo mode would accept the battery.

[@AlbeeSoaring]

Its funny to hear your opinion on this. Ive started trying to be landing my kwads at 3.7-3.6 per cell if possible. The only time I go lower then that is if Im trying to get back to myself from a long-rangish flight. Ive had friends tell me its fin to go down to 3.5-3.4 per cell but I like to be on the safer side and thats probably why I get about a years worth of life from my batteries vs their 2-4 months of life.

[@fiendleon]

Thanks again for all the help in getting this info out there

[@drewschultzfpv1454]

Fresh packs means more trix`s... and good recoveries.. am glad your teaching fellow hobby est... cheers steel dog🐾

[@sinnedfpv5333]

Wish i had seen this video when i bought my first set of lipos. Thank you, very instructive and well explained! 🚀🙌

[@dripcitycars5062]

The definition of “balls to the walls” killed me 😂😂

[@marinehm]

This was perfect to share on my Facebook group today.

[@nathanparker9692]

I love how you have a para glider in the background

[@paulgeorge1069]

Thanks for the easy lesson lipo. I fried all the original packs I got in a couple weeks. It's all clear now

[@Phrancis5]

What about 1S tiny whoop lipos? Those sag to 3.5v not long after take off...

[@PilotNefron]

The episode i was expecting the most! thanks dude!

[@NukeFPV]

Love the random LiPo rubber duck..... hahaha Cheers :)

[@Umsterdam]

Hey, I've been doing it right since I started fpv😁. I heard only go to 80% of mAh when I bought my first batteries, forget who/where. I also charge to storage voltage after using them, don't know if I should or not. Maybe Mr. Steele covers this in the video. Thank Steele for the info, I will now finish watching.😎

[@therustyfareye]

...thank you from sparing us from trying to verbalize all that....good work good sir. 🤘😎To those watching, set playback speed to 0.5...😁

[@topcatgc1]

Thanks Steel, always good to get a reminder👌

[@acme1273]

Very helpful video Mr Steele, as usual more info than expected and really nice tips! Thank you :)

[@elis51501]

Batteries in A quick nutshell, thanks so needed this info!

[@rebelquadronfpv1065]

Nice insulated garage door!!!

[@nikrowe4261]

Concise and to the point. Thanks as usual!

[@poppad10]

Can you PLEASE do a follow-up discussing the amps at which you charge/discharge based on mah of batteries? And using a parallel board with do's and don'ts. THANK YOU.

[@MrSteeleFPV]

Less that 24 hours away :). Video going live at 10:30am Friday

[@diverspudph1310]

Very practical and easy to understand. Thanks!

[@Pernicuz]

best video about lipo´s, thank you! :)

[@colortimepaintco.9271]

Hellzz yeahh I feel good everything you talked about I've been doing for the past 3 year's and yes my batteries last a very long time Thanx for the video.

[@FlyZoneFpv]

Outstanding Steele 👍 thanks brother

[@BenDavis2]

Since videos 3-5 got through whoops, as a beginner I'm not flying a 5" yet, I was expecting this video to talk about basic lipos, chargers, how they work, safety, fire risk, fancy bags, and maybe even something about 1s batteries, since that's what came with the whoop you recommended. I'm going to have to come back and watch this one later. Edit: lol, all that stuff is in the next video, part 7.

[@elliotaston4739]

Take about 80% off (1000mah battery you can drain 800mah) Better to under discharge than over discharge. don't leave batteries fully charged/ empty for more than 2 days. Goggle/ radio batteries don't need to be put at storage unless being left for a week or so. Date batteries so you can tell how much abuse they have endured. Nomral per cell = 3.50V - 4.20V Storage Voltage per cell = 3.70V - 3.90V 2S = 7.40V - 8.40V 4S = 14.80V - 16.80V 6S = 22.20V - 25.20V just a summary of the video for anyone that wants it :)

[@waynecool3060]

very informative for a beginner like myself. as are most of your FPV videos

[@ponowai1]

Agree with everything but rather than service life by months I use cycles. Yes it's a pita but gives me a better idea of how old my packs are. I dont fly the same amount month after month. Take care of your batteries, they're not cheap.

[@TiredFlyerFPV]

Meanwhile I get like 6-7 min of putzing around with my 6” efficiency setup on 4s. But then again, I am underpowered. I don’t really fly “Balls to the Wall”, because I am a more mellow slow paced person. Anyways, good video, but I think you should explain voltage sag more. When I was a beginner, I didn’t know what voltage sag was.

[@0815name0815]

I was hoping so much for this video!!!! Thank you!

[@parker1ray]

I fly micro 1S drones. HV batteries at 4.35 sag to 3.7 in seconds after flight. I fly them to 3.3 and only get 1.5 minutes. If I flew them to 3.8, it would only get 30 seconds of flight time!

[@gabrielthecolorblindsoul6994]

I have a 3s 6Ah, 60c since 2019 and never used it down to 3.0v, but my charger always discharged it down to 3.0v with 1.5A - couldn't change the default voltage value, and the manufacturer recomended the same. I did a full charge, full discharge and storage every month when I didn't use it. And now still has 6012mah (originaly had 6025) if I discharge it to 3v/cell and 0 puffing. Also my boat draws around 140A at max load. I didn't check the internal resistance tho, but I feel no difference in throttle response or capacity.

[@AndrieSurya]

Thank you for this most valuable info!

[@MrJarrod]

Thanks Steele very well explained been looks for a video like this.

[@user-tp1oi3to2r]

Super super util video, thank you so much.

[@ClickLikeAndSubscribe]

Good stuff starts at 6:32

[@vasilisfellouzis]

Hi i have been following you the past 6 days and i just want to thank you. I am new to fpv and trying to learn some things. Keep up the good work ! I just purchased a wizard X220hv and i am trying to learn i just want to ask you for any suggestions on a 6s lipo battery and a balance charger. Thanks in advance

[@boactech3076]

Tnx for all this information. Could you tell more about the lipo pack for your transmitter? Why not use the default pack of your transmitter? Did you modify your transmitter for the lipo?

[@MrSteeleFPV]

No mods needed. It’s a 3S 2200mAh pack from lumenier. Lipo just lasts a hell of a lot longer. Doesn’t come with a Lipo because they are highly regulated when it comes to shipping.

[@frankmarkovich5642]

Once you put the lipos at storage level, how long should you re-check the battery? For those long winter months.

[@MrSteeleFPV]

They should just chill there and not change No need to check at Storage voltage. Do make sure they are kept in s climate controlled environment. Maintained within a range of 60-85 F degrees

[@frankmarkovich5642]

@@MrSteeleFPV Good to know, also very informative video....not as fun as chasing race cars though but just as needed.

[@--JohnDoe]

Steele you are my hero.

[@Enderkruemel]

I fly 3s and 4s but i like using the 3s its fast enouh for my smaller Drohne (3,5") For my 5"i use 4s-5s

[@Gosuminer]

Hi there, newbies! Please forget about "amperage" - it's called current.

[@MrSteeleFPV]

Tomato 🍅

[@bonezalota9559]

Volts... Milliamp~Hours ... :D .... {V} ..... {maH}

[@Jack777Er]

This video poped up after watching you recently fly a 6s down to 15 volts lol

[@EricAmericanTuner]

Thank you for making this video. Super helpful!

[@krazykyle85]

Dope dude . Learned a lot watching all these videos 🦅

[@lazerusmfh]

i have some some adrenalines from 2017! they've degraded, but still flyable, i generally can still pull about 800-900 mah out of the 6 remaining packs in this series, but they are not as powerful as my new packs. great for a cruise or messing around, though they probably have only 100-150 charge cycles over that time period honestly

[@in_novikov]

Nice video, ths! Please, make video with storage lipo batteries. Bags, bunkers or something else. Safe charging, discharging. Im new in this hobby and i afraid of fire from lipos

[@MrSteeleFPV]

Charging video coming Friday 10:30am EST

[@Scott_Bishell]

Great vid thanks. Wondering if you could follow up with how to safely dispose of used/damaged lipos? Cheers

[@mikebutler3595]

I treat my batteries like crap and get about 2 years out of a pack but I don't fly near as hard or often as Steele. I also only fly 1500mAh 4s on my 5" quads.

[@coltonrobinson4255]

Awesome paramotor back there, Im trying to get into that in a few years

[@jackiemonroejemfpv4204]

Nice job, thanks for the advice! ✌️

[@hateeternalmaver]

You're much more conservative with the landing voltages than I am. I try to land them at 3.3v so they come up a little when resting. They seem to last at least a year like that. I do put them into storage after 3 or so days, though.

[@jeremyking7790]

Great Video for a rookie like myself . Thanks bro !!!!

[@x-forcefpv9620]

Hey Steele is there a way to correct the mah and voltage sensor consumption on the steele pdb? Mine doesn't feel like it's giving me accurate readings... is there a trick?

[@MrSteeleFPV]

The mAh consumption should be spot on as it’s coming from the each individual ESC. I know there is a voltage adjustment in the osd menu. I don’t know if there is a mAh consumption adjustment. Most likely you’ll just have to compensate for the adjustment. So if 900 is really 800mAh. The. Go to 980-1000. Each pack. Make sense ? I do this subconsciously actually. Nothing is ever perfect. You just have to ball park it. :)

[@danman7665]

You can in betaflight. If it says 1300mah on the osd and when you charge it you only put in 1200mah your reading is of by 100mah. Then you need to calibrate it in bf.

[@x-forcefpv9620]

Thanks Steele for your input much appreciated! Happy flying :)

[@Jronesfpv]

i have 2 year old CNHL's that still rip cuz i take care of them :D

[@PrinceFpv]

I have 1 year old Cnhl and they're pretty good

[@vojtechvejsicky1819]

I have 7 year old battery and it still flies - on a plane

[@PrinceFpv]

@@vojtechvejsicky1819 😎

[@SaltyFPV]

Oh yes cnhl batteries are amazing.

[@kingfpvmobilefpv3210]

CHEDDA me too!

[@gboulter]

I'm sure you are aware the S is series not cell. so the 4s pack we use are 4s 1p. I have had people very confused in the past as to why we don't say 4C. If producing educational type videos this kind of basic fact should be noted. you also didn't mention what you store at I like 3.85V and then charge as 4S 10P @ 1C this allows leaving charging nice and close to going flying.

[@MrSteeleFPV]

I wasn’t aware. But for this area of the Hobby. It doesn’t really matter. We don’t have parallel batteries for flight packs

[@WrongWayFPV]

Great video!! I learned something