***** *using scrying orb: 5 days in the future*: "hey everybody this is Pants are Dragon and today I'm going to show you some tips and tricks on how to manage and control minion waves. Let's get started" jk, i love you
@Abhanden8 жыл бұрын
sadly the most people even in diamond i met dont understand this :(
@ccs3338 жыл бұрын
but you still bad
@astodone90228 жыл бұрын
Then how tf are you challenger.
@cuillereOTD7 жыл бұрын
The guy is challenger and people still call him bad lul
@piecake91739 жыл бұрын
Hi I main jungle. Wtf is this?
@ceamlkeaml1509 жыл бұрын
He explains some ways to control your wave's position.this is really important for laners because you might get a cs lead.you can zone him if you're ahead and make it easier for your jung to gank.this might not look that efficient but if you do these properly you will notice the difference.That giant minion wave is a little bit different.it allows you to deal significant amount of damage to the inhibitor tower while you and your team are trying to get an objective(drag for ex)
@piecake91739 жыл бұрын
Ceaml Keaml I was being sarcastic btw
@24mrdanny9 жыл бұрын
Pie Cake Hi I main devourer jungle. What is a lane?
@juhotuho109 жыл бұрын
24mrdanny bot
@ceamlkeaml1509 жыл бұрын
Pie Cake is it a meme or sth that jungles dont know about lanes.i mean there has to be a meaning behind a sarcasm
@Fruity01028 жыл бұрын
Great no bullshit video, normally you can reliably skip the first minute or two of any instructional video on youtube due to wasted introduction time. Not this one, the content starts straight away.
@Weisior7 жыл бұрын
I wanted to give this comment a like, but there are 69 of them already ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@MrCaboose9 жыл бұрын
Played this game for 3 years and in platinum. How have I only heard about this now?Great video. Well presented and easy to understand.
@haha5599 жыл бұрын
+ChemicalTeabag If you Play this game for 3 years you should have figured this out by yourself already :D
@MrCaboose9 жыл бұрын
Fabian Drees After 3 years, this kinda thing just happens without me thinking about it. You'd be surprised how many people who play this game for so long are still in bronze and silver. :D
@CinderFall967 жыл бұрын
some people are just not into studying or analyzing the game at a deeper level and only care about the grind. That, and a lot of youtubers usually don't go this in depth into these kinds of subjects.
@mx45848 жыл бұрын
After this video: Finally, I can get out of bronze !! In Game: Having Fiora as support
@ReubenVictoor7 жыл бұрын
I'm a support main and you won't believe how annoying it is to me if other people don't get their main roles.... Even if everyone smashes their lane, most have no idea what their purpose is in a teamfight and you'll end up with a Xin (mastery 6!) and Jinx going all in versus warwick, blitz and Zac. Meanwhile vayne and Syndra get to freehit everything. That was high silver elo versus two unrankeds. They won. Man, how I long to get better so I can play regardless of others...
@donovanbasile50027 жыл бұрын
Random Gamer I feel you
@drb40746 жыл бұрын
That's the normal progression of improvement. Now you hit a losing streak because there are more things you need to learn above the minion management. Minion management was enough to get you to upper Bronze. There are dozens more things to learn though, and that's why you have difficulty at Silver 5. The need to learn things never stops.
@nicoadams28078 жыл бұрын
Hey Dong I just wanted to say ty for your Videos I have been stuck in Silver and Bronze for a long long time and I always wanted to get out but after a few loses I always stopped playing ranked and started to play Normals... I always thought it's my Team who is losing it's not my fault I can't do anything about it but after your Videos I knew how to help my Team out without even leaving Top Lane etc. I started to play ranked again and got from Bronze 2 to Silver 3 last Season now I am Bronze 2 but Im sure I will get out because I now know so much more things! Thank you alot League finally makes me fun again!
@nicoadams28078 жыл бұрын
+Madingdong I am Silver 3 now ^^ but thx for your friendly comment mate :)
@ReubenVictoor7 жыл бұрын
what are you now?
@josht95187 жыл бұрын
Retired
@cc-zb8xl7 жыл бұрын
Plat2
@markoantonijevic96835 жыл бұрын
What rank are you now?
@HTMLRu1ezD00d6 жыл бұрын
Something he did not mention is how to properly break a freeze. Allow your opponent to attack you, without you autoing back. This will make your minions aggro him, and not deal damage to his minions. Making his minions “healthier” so when reinforcements come on there side. His wave will be naturally stronger then yours. Pushing back towards you.
@Fakedeath848 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna build a huge minion wave! But then Gangplank happened
@tudorpetrescu35779 жыл бұрын
Best freeze video I have seen and I think the most helpful game advice/guide on your channel so far (the life advice section is different :) and the nasus one is too funny ), good job, a lot of details ,we forgive you for "not being active", just take your time and make the content as dong as possible.
@MoiselleTheFae9 жыл бұрын
Always nice to get a reminder on some things and learn some others :D
@1999luked9 жыл бұрын
+Gen Doukeshi GEN!
@MoiselleTheFae9 жыл бұрын
+RevenantPlanet Yes?
@1999luked9 жыл бұрын
I love you
@jofac229 жыл бұрын
Bring back how to
@vvvortic9 жыл бұрын
minions are a lot like grills, because they take my farm and friendzone me because im a nice guy, gg
@MotorKoiKarpfen9 жыл бұрын
vvvortic go away
@megumin93759 жыл бұрын
Bbbortic senpai :D
@carmend16659 жыл бұрын
MotorKoiKarpfen he's been trying to go away but your stupid ass keeps him in bronze gg
@lucasfer99749 жыл бұрын
AMERICA IS WHIIITE He deserves challenjour
@FarEastPanda9 жыл бұрын
I don't deserve friendzone. I deserve a challenjour grill, gg
@duuhscouser969 жыл бұрын
That is probably the best tutorial of anything i've ever saw in my life about League. Good job!
@mahms0127 жыл бұрын
Let me explain the basics because this guy knows what he's saying but its hard to understand him. Firstly you need to understand that the closer your minion wave is to the enemy nexus the more likely the enemy wave will push. This is because a unit of minion always spawns every 30seconds from the nexus. If your wave is closer to the enemy nexus the enemy minions will be able to join the previous minion wave faster and slowly build up. The next thing you need to understand is that if your wave has atleast 4 extra minions, than the enemy minion wave that wave will always push no matter where it is on the lane. This is because your minions will kill the enemy minions faster and slowly will be able to unite and grow into a super minion wave that will prevent the enemy minion waves a chance to group together. Thirdly you should be aware of the fact that freezing minion wave is important because it ensures that you get to farm wherever you want on the lane. He explain this perfectly as to how to freeze it i.e. plzzz don't tank it. Also freezing lane is so that you could farm easily and also if lets say you didn't want to push the wave as enemy was stronger 1v1 and wanted to farm relatively close to your tower. However he has told us about few situations when you should never freeze lane. Lastly a super minion is really easy to make. Just kill the caster minions at the back and give the wave few minutes to build. If no one interferes with the lane then the enemy turrets will fall from the super minion wave. However this can cost you alot of farm.
@JerryReyes7 жыл бұрын
mahms012 Can you break a freeze with a melee champion? Still having a hard time understanding how to break a freeze.
@milosvicovac37607 жыл бұрын
Jerry Reyes There is no way u can break a freezing lane it's hard cuz u need to drag their minions and he will drag urs and w8 for freeze so u are basically fucked. So as he said, only way to get advantage from this freezing is to roam and kill jungler etc, do objectives, etc, so in that situation he will.be bascially forced to push, if he is not stupid lol. So when u got back u will be having a wave at the center of your lane.
@TheNoComplyKid9 жыл бұрын
I love when people make these kind of in depth videos on the lesser known aspects of league, really helps out in the long run, thanks!
@SimplyAstonished9 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of how CLG used their mechanical prowess to freeze TSM and win.
@Acronoss12349 жыл бұрын
***** Is this the real Jatt?
@Brettsauces9 жыл бұрын
Corvo A Yes, Jatt is secretly the coach for CLG
@Acronoss12349 жыл бұрын
Brett Melton Your sarcasm is strong my friend
@psychocrysis29 жыл бұрын
***** Please tell me you'll switch the name every time somebody else wins NA.
@Kalashichris9 жыл бұрын
***** TSM ? What is this ? You mean FreeSM ?
@stopdoingthatjulio39127 жыл бұрын
I needed the mega minion thing. In low elo, people have terrible wave management. I've been climbing because I've learned to consistently keep minions away from my towers mid to late game.
@vapersmith78598 жыл бұрын
Pretty deep analysis of minions impressive....
@smithrooks9 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, thanks so much for this video! I've never seen someone explain freezing in this much depth. Fantastic video, looking forward to that vlog!
@blinkysaurusrex4858 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, properly explained everything and by far the best educational video about wave manipulation on KZbin. Awesome job.
@Raquya3 жыл бұрын
6 years later and this is still the first video I got when I googled how to freeze waves. Awesome
@Abhanden8 жыл бұрын
One of the best if not the best video about wave managment props to you Dong
@aidenlin28177 жыл бұрын
Best guide I've ever seen about Lane control
@Handygamer9 жыл бұрын
great vid. Keep making that kind of stuff, it's awesome and you're doing a great job. Been looking for a compact, but thorough guide to minion waves to use it for educational purposes and I think I'll stick with yours.
@junhaohuang68988 жыл бұрын
K this guy is a genius but he also have 2 do his homework.....But what want 2 say is you are the best KZbinr in the whole LOL community. Keep going. WE like it.
@redsun73657 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best videos imo on how to actually help me out on league
@tomchch8 жыл бұрын
waht can i do if purple minon always gank me and kill me? how do i understand the purple minion?
@speedkoyn8 жыл бұрын
Vapora sent me here.
@kurtliamsadang69937 жыл бұрын
same
@RosteezHD6 жыл бұрын
damn, went from gold 3 to platinum 2 in 2 months only because of this video, thank you so much
@jorgeherrera10748 жыл бұрын
Can you do an updated version of this? I know it's basically the same, but there must be some differences considering minions spawn different now
@svperuzer8 жыл бұрын
Dude! ...watched this video earlier, played a few games... wow! I never really knew... and I was playing as Quinn, no less. So much pressure. You go to one lane, set up a giant wave, then they need to send someone to deal with it, and before they can clear the wave you've already set up another. Fucking holy shit man...so awesome! Thanks!
@ERACLAB9 жыл бұрын
I feel like a need at least a month to get it completely, but for now I thank you for this video, because I can manage my lane with idea in mind and not randomly guess how much minions do I need to kill to get smth.
@relientkgeek9 жыл бұрын
holy crap it's so cute watching the minions fight!! haha
@CodenamedFoxhound9 жыл бұрын
glad someone put you on reddit, you're a good dude dong! keep it up bro!
@emilypiens23556 жыл бұрын
We need to build a wal... uhhh minionwave ^^
@johnx1407 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! just let me add something on your info: 7:38 when youre taking a tower,youre also winning territory on the warzone,since the are the tower was defending has turned into any terrain AND the enemy has lost a defensive asset.
@AdoraTheExplorer9 жыл бұрын
Next time you do something like this, make sure your facecam isnt on the map! :D
@Mine4craft2channel9 жыл бұрын
SirJay you dont need to look at the map
@Schtiffles9 жыл бұрын
+berkan şafak It'd be nice to see where the minion waves are when he does the freezing. It would help a lot with timing, especially for the drag method.
@speedbarbaar9 жыл бұрын
SirJay Try it out in sandbox mode! :p
@Szarps9 жыл бұрын
nice video man, I knew a bit of this stuff (mostly the heavy self push, which when i have the minions on my side i left 2 enemy minions or 3 (4 if I want the super push) ) and it always come handy to review this things, also I was struggling with perfect my freezing
@zachmatthews98579 жыл бұрын
Great video man, keep posting stuff like this when you get the time. Subscribed.
@AlexandruAndreiS888 жыл бұрын
10 minutes ago this game looked easy. Thanks for the video.
@felixpawlowski90337 жыл бұрын
Wow, g This video was well made! Anyways, how could you build runaans on shyvana??
@theomonteiro95302 жыл бұрын
This is stil relevant to this day ! Great video
@ayoubmarzaq45697 жыл бұрын
clean, simple and helpful!! nice video man keep up the good work.
@LoIi9 жыл бұрын
Gratz on getting front page of the subreddit again
@lomion2008 жыл бұрын
better tutorials than league itself has managed
@lilaczeus675785 жыл бұрын
so all this info went in one ear and out the other just like the rest of all of the info why am i like this
@Rynth9 жыл бұрын
Really well presented, thanks for making this.
@Daniel332767 жыл бұрын
Another important note is that to make it worth the risk of building a super wave, you need to be team-fighting, segueing another lane, or taking an objective like baron or dragon for the enemy to decide between the wave or the other decision. When they commit to one, the other is successful.
@konorokingdom2 жыл бұрын
Already knew about freezing and every video focuses on it. All I wanted to know was how to create a super wave and "kill 2 casters" is literally all I needed to hear. You actually kill a caster and tanky in this video though
@vimipz97859 жыл бұрын
This is actually amazing... Junglers don't know shiz about these stuff XD Subbed,thanks too !
@DaBombWasPlanted9 жыл бұрын
i just buy banner of command Kappa
@LordWoodpecker6 жыл бұрын
Garry Host rip
@BleedForTheDancer6 жыл бұрын
@@LordWoodpecker F
@cereal-agario77054 жыл бұрын
rip
@bestman26704 жыл бұрын
Aged like milk
@pyllis79138 жыл бұрын
Holy shit dong you DESERVE More subs this video was really useful to this bronze player keep it going :)
@janoslaszlovasik91616 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one laughing at him saying minions every 10 seconds? :D Great vid btw
@vapersmith78598 жыл бұрын
Minions are hilarious I swear and controlling them is even funnier...I know league of legends is serious but some important things have hilarious elements to them seeing minions in time elapse is one of them... the time elapse makes it much more humorous...
@novikovPrinciple8 жыл бұрын
The minions are all like, "Comrades, what are we even fighting for?"
@pogchamperinokripperino52818 жыл бұрын
the drag technique that i use its similar to that, but you weave in and out of a bush like you did with nidalee top back in the days when harassing the enemy laner to "not" get creep aggro once you attacked the enemy champion the creeps would focus you but when you entered the bush the aggro was lost. you can do the same with the creeps in this situation since they don't attack immediatly, thus holding the wave closer to one of the 3 top bushes and not taking any damage (if done correctly) instead of towards the river
@mierkov52048 жыл бұрын
This was very detailed information and extremely helpful. Thank you.
@LugatiOyun9 жыл бұрын
i cant wait for your videos man. please make more of them
@andrewcooper1779 жыл бұрын
Nice vids bro :) I learn a lot from you
@sumanuel8 жыл бұрын
Awesome tips! Thank you so much bro!
@filskm5187 жыл бұрын
"The cannon minion is like a tanky fed adc" *realizes* the cannon minion is urgot!!
@arnoldtoth31348 жыл бұрын
You are awesome mate! Keep up the good work! : )
@PeterParker-zc6ec9 жыл бұрын
Ehhh quick question regarding the superwave: At 9:15 u say that if the minions are at the middle of the lane, you should take out 2 caster minions to create a super wave, yet in the video you took 1 caster minion and 1 melee minion so which one is it now? Or does it work both ways? Apart from that great video, cheers.
@NarutoUzumaki-jg4pw9 жыл бұрын
this is something I really need to work on :(
@NarutoUzumaki-jg4pw9 жыл бұрын
+Alejandro Sosa doesn't their damage also increase in relation to objectives or something like that as well?
@Abram-Delgado9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video man it means alot coming from a Nasus player. :D
@SKCandygirl9 жыл бұрын
if you need to roam you can also just kill the canon minion alone, or when pushing tower enemy recalled just kill caster + canon = recall get back or roam.
@fluffybull39355 жыл бұрын
remindes me of playing c&c against a friend who never played it before. His forces came all one by one in a straight line xD
@quality1479 жыл бұрын
You forgot the best way, imo, to break a freeze. Ask jungle to push it out. Super safe, and if done properly, gives a free-ish base. Dangers are possible dragon and stuff like that for other team, though if you have a lot of wards around the map, shouldn't happen.
@Dev-fj9xy8 жыл бұрын
Great video man keep up the great work and thank you
@aavv19 жыл бұрын
Yo Dong Huap, can you make a csing under tower video? Cheers mate
@danielzhang58428 жыл бұрын
You can also walk in then out continuously in the bush so they don't hit you. Their auto wont go through.
@T0nyAvde19 жыл бұрын
very informative video man, keep it up!
@penispenispenisable8 жыл бұрын
hey. your videos are awesome. helped me a lot, thx!
@moveitsjosh9 жыл бұрын
I never really knew how to build a minion wave. I knew its really good to do with shen so you can get the minion aggro from 12-20 minions onto your enemy. Hopefully this will help me.
@EctoGamer7 жыл бұрын
This is very important to me because im a support/jungle main
@oskar47648 жыл бұрын
I really like your content,thank you for explaining :)
@MrWrael9 жыл бұрын
Thx for making this public now rito is gonna change the minion system -.-
@Weisior7 жыл бұрын
Very complex explanation. Thank you.
@kmanyouface8 жыл бұрын
So if a jungler ganks and forces the lamer out of lane should they always hard push the lane? Or if it's frozen in a good spot should they let the lamer be
@carlrodholm31568 жыл бұрын
I get reminded of Gbay99´s old videos when I watch Dong Huap.
@kaijū3174 жыл бұрын
I don't get superwaves, it takes way too long for them to build up. What's to stop anyone from taking a stroll to the superwave and getting a huge chunk of gold that _you_ set up? Isn't it way too risky to just assume nobody will split and take the gold?
@ahmadkurabi9 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very informative
@tommasobrindani58947 жыл бұрын
Great way to put down things!
@user-it6jd1sb6k7 жыл бұрын
well the only thing I know is: I either want to have the minions on my side so I only last hit or push as hard as I can so I get them under the enemy tower so he misses CS.
@wopwopkross9 жыл бұрын
damn finally a good example!
@benimo66 жыл бұрын
3:23 that chat summarises league of legends community in a nutshell lmao
@CRYTRAX.4 жыл бұрын
That video is insanely good
@aikiiru7 жыл бұрын
That ending is spicy
@lo28319 жыл бұрын
What if you're an ADC on bot with squishy support and blitz on the other team? How do you freeze in this situation?
@teriyan17787 жыл бұрын
Smooth, clean and sexy voice. Thanks man.
@davidli26423 жыл бұрын
So the key takeaways are: 1. Minions are like sperm. 2, Minions are like GTA cops. 3. Have 4 more minions in a wave for it to push. Cheers mate, that was easy to understand.
@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc96688 жыл бұрын
Can you explain how to make giant Plusle wave too?
@KazilikGamingChannel9 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, really informative.
@voyagereternal117 жыл бұрын
How'd you get Runaan's Hurricane on Shyvana?
@philippdrescher60127 жыл бұрын
This Video is from 2015. Back then there were no item restrictions, it just didnt work.
@Pistallion19 жыл бұрын
Question, how do I reset a lane when they freeze at the 3rd zone. For example, I'm adc and ahead and want to zone enemy adc. I try and push best I can but I don't have the best pushing and the enemy is doing the best to auto attack my creeps so that when my creeps are being killed at his tower, his next wave comes and attacks my minions at his tower. then they advance but still at around the 3rd zone
@Nastah89 жыл бұрын
I actually did not know that... Thanks! :)
@xela3918 жыл бұрын
Is the mega minion wave technique still accurate or nah?
@yuichicowles79154 жыл бұрын
How do I keep a wave frozen near my tower when I am playing something like a Kayle before lv 6. I find that the wave almost always bounces off my tower because I can't hold the freeze due to my poor waveclear ability, and it starts slow pushing towards my enemy.
@billzambras65018 жыл бұрын
ok i understand but i have some questions.First is this possible on midle lane??Second is it worth on midle lane???Third im maining azir if i get to play against an assasin who can duel me what to i do i push him back so i can open portunities to roam or do i let him push me so i can farm eissier and let him roam so i can push and take his turret???And last whats worth more taking a turret or roaming and helping lanes???
@sauce06098 жыл бұрын
+bill zambras Freezing mid is a lot harder for a few reasons. 1. The lane is shorter, if your turret hits the melee minions you freeze is basically over. 2. like 90% of mid champions are relatively squishy and have ranged wave clear abilities, so they're can just kill the creeps from range. And most mid champs cant tank the minions because they'll take damage from your minions and your poke. Like azir for example, if they try to stop a minion wave from hitting there turret and are face tanking your minions you can just poke them, forcing your minions under there turret. A minions wave that hits a turret will always bounce the wave back towards your turret. The only champion you can really freeze against mid are champs that have no ranged wave clear and are melee (your typical top lane champions), like fizz, riven.. etc
@jimnastics53877 жыл бұрын
Thanks this was very helpful!
@ThaBooyah9 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work!
@SirDirpsalot9 жыл бұрын
dong huap post more please..... a video a week dude?