How to Frenzel deep

[@abdessalambouzenoun4487]

What a wonderful teacher ! Thank u soo much

[@samudraaryawan3255]

Thank you so much 🙏

[@LaLtheGaL]

I'm so glad you shared that you have tight tubes. I always suspected I had tight tubes (especially my left ear) and recently having used that UBA Tool, I confirmed it, as I need about 60-80 to pop my right ear and 80-100 to do my left. I was bummed out when I discovered this. However, it also helped me understand certain aspects of my EQ. For example, I am just learning MF, and now it makes sense that I don't like using constant pressure. It's same as you describe, I feel I can't relax when I have to use a lot of pressure to keep my tubes open. Any other tips for someone with tight tubes?

[@atlantisfreediving]

Welcome to "the club" 😬 With time and lot of diving they do get easier to equalise, yes. Perhaps a lot of EQ practice and slight change of diet can make "them " easier to equalise, good luck! 🍀

[@LaLtheGaL]

@@atlantisfreediving Haha... not a club I wanted to join, but hey, I am here. You're right though. When I first started freediving, I would frequently get reverse blocks on my ascent, during my course. It was unnerving to have to stop, and chew like a cow until it opened. But after a couple of weeks of dry practice, that it was not a problem.

[@Hanno1980]

Great video Pavol, really good and helpful explanation.

[@atlantisfreediving]

Really happy you find it useful

[@DivineDogsBcn]

Very interesting, as always! Thanks a lot. : ) Even though I am not yet a deep diver I'm sure I'll need it in the future. ; )

[@umran4816]

Perfect video Pavol,miss you guys 🤗

[@atlantisfreediving]

Miss you too buddy! Hopefully soon we can dive!

[@ErickOsit]

This is a very nice tutorial of frenzel, I really learn a lot. I have 1 question, WHEN YOU SAY REFILL, WHERE IS THE AIR COME FROM? IS IT ON THE LUNGS?

[@atlantisfreediving]

Thank you @erickosit your comment is much appreciated. To answer your question, yes the air for frenzel still needs to be "refilled " from the lungs 🫁

[@ErickOsit]

​@@atlantisfreedivingthank you so much for the quick response. I think I can now improve my equalization because of what you've shared! :) actually my main issue is when I dive vertically head first my equalization is not working ( very hard to equalize), really appreciated if you can also share some techniques to get rid of my equalization issue. Thank you in advance! 😊

[@kmichiel]

Hello Pavol. What is the tool you are using for measuring the pressure during EQ? The one connected with the app.

[@atlantisfreediving]

Hi, it is called Equalisation tool from UBA project

[@adidives3814]

Very interesting content, thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. I have question for you, you mentioned that cheeks shouldn’t be filled by air during the refill phase, so I assume that tongue should be in some lock position(T,K,H). Could you please suggest which position is preferable? What about cheeks, they should be squeezed or simply relaxed or mayby it doesn't matter becaouse of tongue lock? I also heard about SP tongue position which is unknown for me, can you please explain it?

[@atlantisfreediving]

Thank you Adi for the positive comment :) there is a bit of misunderstanding between Frenzel and Mouthfill (filled cheeks), for frenzel you dont need to fill the cheeks, and you can still dive pretty deep with it. Tongue should be in K position ( not sure what is H position) cheeks relaxed, actually tip of the tongue also. Many people make mistake of pushing with tio of the tongue against hard palate, which results in poor equalization and unrelaxed dives. I hope this answers your Q's! :)

[@adidives3814]

@@atlantisfreediving When I mentioned H-lock I thought about position described by Adam Stern in this movie: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4rUi5SCl6t-bJo. Anyway make sense that the smaller space between tongue and glottis the better. The only worry is that with H-lock it might be difficult to recharge the air. I really have to try this technique, looks promising(I have still f.. problems with mouthfill). And one more question, what about training in the water? You mentioned that this kind of equalization can cause trachea and lung squeeze(because of reverse packs/recharges). Is it recommended to practice this technique during FRC or RV dives? If not what is your suggestion? Once again many thanks for your tips.

[@atlantisfreediving]

@@adidives3814 oh ok, now I watched the video you mentioned. I am still not sure why it is called H lock. I however use similar position for tongue placement, except I call it G lock 😅 I know 🙈 But this is the ultimate tongue position as it allows most control and most pressure for the equalization and at the same time it keeps the rest if the mouth and tongue relaxed (see Adam's tongue sticking out to show it isn't used at all) you can practice FRC dives with Frenzel, but yes all safety precautions apply. And actually we often start with FRC Frenzel only dives prior to Mouthfill to see how efficient Frenzel is. I hope this helps :)

[@tina_macau_diver]

i have one question, when you are refilling, do you close your soft palate to do so? As I have that eq trainer as well, and everytime I do reverse pack, there are negative spikes and i was told that this was becos i let my soft palate opened when I m refilling, and I should always close the soft palate when refill so that no negative spikes would have appear....

[@atlantisfreediving]

Hi, there should be negative spikes when you refill, you need to create negative pressure in your mouth/nose cavity in order to move air from lungs to this area for next equalisation, it is just physics. It is also very difficult to keep soft palate closed if you do Frenzel refill as the negative pressure (suction) will open it. The most important part is to keep your nose pinched why refilling as you don't want the mask airspace into this equation. There are some tactics that involve drawing air from the mask also, but that's not for regular diving scenario. Also remember there is a fine line between how deep you can naturally go with Deep Frenzel and point where you should consider mouthfil. Good luck, and hope that helps.

[@tina_macau_diver]

@@atlantisfreediving thanks for ur reply! And whenever i reach to the depth i cant eq with my reverse pack, i feel the suction of my mask once i release my hands from the nostrils in order to turn, shall i avoid this or doesnt matter as im going to turn anyway.

[@atlantisfreediving]

@@tina_macau_diver it sounds like it could be several problems. How deep are you when this happens?

[@tina_macau_diver]

@@atlantisfreediving around -36

[@atlantisfreediving]

@@tina_macau_diver Yes, at this depth it is possible that you are sucking air out of the mask, try to make sure the nose is pinched throughout the dive and only let tiny bit of a air to EQ the mask while equalising the ears. Hope that helps!

[@surface2wherever]

I would love a video about management and rhythm of mask equalization 🤿

[@atlantisfreediving]

That's a good idea! We will try to make it soon!