How To Get A Chesty Mixed Voice: Full Mix

[@emanuelcrespoboludeo5277]

You are a genius. Thanks bro. I m a f*ckimg baritone in a world of tenors so i learned the hardest way how to get to B4. Today i got my first C5. Now i will train what you told us to sustain my voice little more

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

That's awesome!! Thanks for the kind words!

[@utilitydisk]

Nah, not a world of tenors for sure

[@oscaramesfromED]

Hey what do you mean "by hardest way"? And what is your lower notes? Just curious

[@Lian_music]

@@oscaramesfromEDim a Baritone too, my lowest note is C2 and my chest voice cracks at E4. I think he means learning mixed voice idk

[@sabulolife8110]

being a baritone in a world full of tenors is so real

[@notyourwaifu9692]

I think the light bulb moment for me (female singer) is that I need to isolate chest resonance from vocal cord ‘weight’. That’s the trick I’ve been missing. Thank you!

[@Cidafulnus]

The first time I was able to understand what "mix voice" is made of. Thanks a lot This helped a lot

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

of course!

[@GarethThomasTunes]

Hey this is a really key point! Never thought of how low voice placement can work up in mix. Great way to understand it thank you!

[@SillySmallMan]

Bro you have just become one of my favourite youtubers of all time. You just helped me hit a C5 in chest voice for the 1st time ever. You're an inspiration, love you man 🥰

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

Thank you so much! So glad I could help!

[@CANTsee_cartr]

adding this to the daily exercises 🙏 appreciate u

[@sotarules]

Your techniques including the octave jumps was key for me. When I do your exercises, my voice transforms from a rickety pirate ship into an aircraft carrier, and I can sing notes from C4-C5 with a kind of effortless confidence that would be unthinkable before. What blows my mind is this is all apparently warms up and technique, nurture rules, not nature.

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

I’m so glad to hear this helped! Yes with focus the octave jump can be very helpful slowly adding more chest higher and higher in time! Yes nurturing the mixed voice and giving it time is definitely key, but always possible.

[@gdmya]

Out of all vocal coaches I have watched yours by far was the most helpful! I'm 15 years old who's still going through puberty but you're making it easier for me! I also happen to still have my falsetto kicking even during puberty (peaking at D6!)

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

Thats great thank you!

[@gdmya]

@Joshua Abraham keep practicing, you're going through puberty so keep practicing to preserve your range

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

@Joshua Abraham What do you mean by will it still drop?

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

@Joshua Abraham Most likely not at this point if you can get to G2 you have gone through puberty at least vocally lol

[@halo6849]

@@lemandoeslogic2261 why , i try hoarseness 😭😭

[@petebogaards]

Amazing dude I'm hitting highs I've never hit before. Thank you so much!!!!

[@JordiCaballero]

Great video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@digitaltrip3311]

If you want a thic mix use CVT edge or overdrive. If you want a thin mix just use neutral or curbing…..

[@bileth22]

Yes, genius excersise. I could barely hit G# before. Now I can hit C#5 clean and thin belting nasal. I can't throw all the chest up past G yet. Ken Tamplin makes a sausage toungue till the veins in the neck bulge out and when the face turns red your in mix voice. This method you don't need all the outboard gear and hemorrhoids to sing so high.

[@erteple2647]

yes! an important part of learning to sing on youtube is learning to stay away from ken tamplin

[@farazardnazeem541]

You explain everything so well and immediately give a demonstration. Only now, do I understand 'singing through the mask' Thank you so much. Watching you videos is time well spent.

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

Thank you! Glad to help!

[@cr0111]

Another awesome video. Best demonstrating of this stuff on the net 👏👏👏

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

Thank you!

[@Aureus_Variable]

Thank you!! It helps a lot!!

[@The_Ghero69]

I'm not sure how I found your channel but I am glad I did.

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

Thank you!

[@sotarules]

OK so I'm practicing this over and over and I have this kind of Pavarotti/operatic quality when I do the chesty NAY, it sounds kind of bombastic, like a big fat biker or something, particularly when I add a tad of fry. So I'm using it to do the song Bad Company, where the song is mostly in mid-mix. It sounds really good but I'm limited to just NAYing the song right now because when I go to consonants, it tends to go back to old habits. What I need to do is run though your exercise completely every day, then do Bad Company once, being super careful not to go back to the old way. The good news is I think this song is going to come out really good, albeit not like the original, when I try Karaoke.

[@josephmangino8256]

Hi Leman, there are a million voice videos on KZbin, but yours is the best. I have a question that I'm sure a lot of other watchers of your video probably do to. To me it seems that, with much proper practice, we will be able to do your voice exercises within the range of our voices. Once we can do that fairly well, can you give us a melody line to try to sing. I presume singing vowel and consonant words will be much more of a challenge. Being new to vocal lessons, I thought that would give us a good measuring stick to determine how well we are coming along.

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

Thank you! I can try and come up with something sure! And yes it takes a lot of time and dedication I couldn't get to a G4 in full/mix when I started and maybe 2 octaves and now I have between 4-5, just keep at it!

[@polyglotpengyou]

Just found your content, looking forward to more content , I like how you let us practice with you

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

Thank you!!

[@sasa_sasa4359]

Nice video! i have a question though. From what I managed to understand, when going higer we need to thin our voice. But I can't cleary understand at what we're referring to when talking about thinning our voice. Should i gradually move from my chest to my falsetto, while trying to keep the same low larinx position?

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

If you need to do this at first thats ok but we are aiming on not flipping into falsetto. When I say thing out our voice I mean literally using a thinner part of our vocals cords which is also easier while becoming more brighter in the mask as we go up. I would consider watching my medium mix video this uses more mask than chest as a demo

[@sasa_sasa4359]

@@lemandoeslogic2261 All right, thanks👌

[@paulchristianravidas2072]

I'm so confused about the door😭

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

uhhhhhh?

[@amirrjk6934]

thank you for making this video

[@bernardrosario3527]

Thanks for the excellent training!!! How would you characterize Chicago's Tenor singers like Peter Cetera's or Jason Scheff's voice?

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

I’m not super familiar with Chicago besides a few songs but from what I’ve heard I would definitely say he utilizes more of a “medium mix” as opposed to a “full mix” more of a 50/50 or or maybe even closer 70/30 mask to chest ratio. Someone like Michael buble for example would be more of a full mix and more like 75/25 chest to mask ratio if that makes sense.

[@voddeem]

3:21 look at the door

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

hahahah! What the heck I didn't even notice!

[@nikolanikolic5180]

Wow bro you really understood thing ! i love chest resonance and i always try to pull it so high ,end up hoarse ,and keep trying like in circle to have that power high ! because i still dont know how to mix,how to sing nasaly high,i can sing nasaly low but when i try to go higher i start pulling chest ! Do you do private classes ? I also write and produce music,but i am primary a singer :))

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

It takes awhile to develop the mix! Yes I do give private lessons.

[@nikolanikolic5180]

What is your insta or fb ?

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

@@nikolanikolic5180 Lemanmusicofficial

[@andreatorriglia8010]

You've earned a like and a sub. I don't know if you're still reading this, but is this way of singing tiring for the voice? I mean, stilistically in can be very cool to mimic opera with that lower-placed larynx, but is it sustainable for the voice? Is it for all tenors? Or is this more suitable for dramatic tenors? For me personally, allowing the larynx to naturally raise for high notes is the way that I can actually sing in my upper range without going out of gas if you know what I mean. Great video though

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

Well to be honest I couldn’t sing with that chest power up to A4-C5 a year ago I had to be thin in masky to go into mix in that area but I strengthened my chest much more. Yes this is tiring if your voice isn’t trained for that stamina but it absolutely is sustainable when you build that strength. Just like the singer of Nothing But Thieves has that chesty power for 4 minutes he will be able to sing like that for a long time because he has very good technique. As long as you aren’t pushing and your voice has been trained for it, this belting is very sustainable.

[@andreatorriglia8010]

@@lemandoeslogic2261 Yes it really does take practice just like everything in life. Can you believe last year I couldn't go past my secondo passaggio? But KZbin videos like yours inspired me and I actually discovered my mix, which I'm now nurturing every time I can sing... Thanks for the reply and have a good one man

[@ErkusJansone]

Awesome. Thanks again for your time. How often do you use vibrado in your singing? Does it help or hurt with control? Would you recommend vibrado as a sustainable technique, or is it mostly to improve sound quality?

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

As I got better with singing the more vibrato I could use and experiment with. I would recommend doing exercises without vibrato to ensure each note is solidified in muscle memory but after awhile experimenting with vibrato can be very useful and fun!

[@chilliboi9336]

Awesome stuff mate thanks.

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

Of course!

[@chilliboi9336]

@@lemandoeslogic2261 Can I ask as well - is it normal for chesty mix to be a bit more tiring than the medium mix and falsetto mix due to the thicker sound? I think after this video I found it and the sound is nice but I find I tire if I try to continuouslly remain in a chesty mix and my voice wants to break into head resonance ranges. Can you confirm if I'm on the right track or not in terms of feeling my voice out? And do you do coaching / lessons?

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

@@chilliboi9336 Well, there could a couple answers to that. You could be pushing or using more force than necessary which could be causing fatigue, however, when belting you have to use much more support and effort than in falsetto so yes it takes much more energy but you should still be able to do it over and over. It sounds like you are on the right track though. We also need to realize when our voice needs to thin out in relation to where we are at in our singing. Meaning, if we are not quite strong enough say to bring chest up to G4 we shouldn't force it but gradually strengthen chest to come up. I do give lessons!

[@chilliboi9336]

@@lemandoeslogic2261 Thank you. What’s your point of contact re lessons?

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

@@chilliboi9336 [e-mail]

[@nikolanikolic5180]

You have a lessons for head falseto voice,for chest voice,for whistle register.But you dont have for nasaly resonance how to find it ,to build it and excercises ! Please make it

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

Watch my “medium mix video” I do take a lot about mask resonance there. If you need more let me know.

[@henrykernodle]

Idk if I can change the way I learned to belt, because I’ve had always pushed my voice to the max and today if try to mix it sounds so pitchy and annoying. I’m a baritone and my highest note in full voice is C#5, sometimes I can exclaim a D5 but I don’t count it because I can’t sustain it, my usable lowest is F2. I wish I could belt up to C#5 without all the volume and sometimes rasp.

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

@@henrykernodle yes this is where control really comes into place because I couldn’t have any chest resonance in that range for quite some time. If you really focus and train your mask and nasal resonance with control and without pushing then you can start to blend over time without pushing your voice. This is easier said than done, but much better for your voice and will not result in fatigue or pitchyness

[@henrykernodle]

Watching your video I realized that when I was trying to hit a D5 for an specific song, I did the same technique you taught on “landing on the note right away”. I’m gonna keep on trying to achieve a good mixed sound, tired to hear people saying that my C5’s / C#5’s are too loud and “chest pulled”. Thank you for the video! 💙

[@quwane]

i really wanna be able to sing high notes whenever i feel like i want to sing a song. sometimes i like songs of utaite Eve in which he sings like that. and sometimes i get to that range with myself too with an also full mixed voice but it's hard to hold it for a long time since i've had a small experience dealing with full support and so it dries out quickly. i am able to get into that full mixed voice because the rest of the time i spend singing in just that medium low volumed mix. i can sometimes get a clean sound if i sing kinda every day for at least 30 minutes like that but sometimes that low volumed medium mix can not give a sound, leaving me only with that high vocal fry. i'm trying to comfortably find a balance of the right amount of support and air passing through and how much i use that nasal cryness. anyway so my voice knows the feeling of how to get into mix but only to some extent because first my medium mix is clean not all the time and second, my mix with the full support dries out in like 1-2 minutes this explanation is beautiful btw, i'm going to experiment some more. i love watching these videos because they can also keep me moving in that direction developing the voice i'd kinda wanna have. your voice is so cool btw because even your usual speech has that saturated texture i know a guy his name is chipz (stealthrg), and his voice also developed that feature. he can also hit high notes very very well. i uploaded his singing on my channel this is so great to hear an advice from someone like you, from someone who definitely has that what i'm searching for for me, this is basically a vocal breakdown of the voice of that japanese singer Eve that i listen to even though i don't really listen to similar vibes of sings that Eve and his team makes, i'm still developing this voice sometimes. thanks sssssssssssssso much for that

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

If you have any questions or would like to request anything lmk!

[@quwane]

​@lemandoeslogic2261 17:52 can a person always sing like this? by the way, what head voice excercise would be crucial to have this mixed voice? once i achieved this type of voice for like 5 seconds and got a recording of it but now i don't know how to get it and i'm back to the beginning when i was starting singing because i kinda gave up on it even though i really want it. my voice is always so vocal-fry-ish yet can be sso airy, so my voice rarely sounds smooth, even with a low volumed medium mixed voice. or even with falsetto, i just can't blend from chest to head voice smoothly anymore. that's why i think it's a problem with my head voice and want to find some excersizes to strengthen it for singing in full mixed voice. it's what i always desired since i've started trying to descover and train my voice 2 years ago

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

@@quwane yes I can always sing with that power when I keep my voice in shape. I would definitely practice 100 percent falsetto and add mask resonance to it slowly, I would have to hear where you are at to really know though

[@j.goodwin2024]

Do you think an Eb5 in a heady voice would be good? There's a song called All By Myself and I wanted to get it like in the millenium concert here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIXWo5J6grlgjJY

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

To get to Eb 5 in mix we definitely have to thin out the tone and lean more into the mask. To answer your question I think it can send good in multiple voicings it just depends on the context and how it’s execute. If this is for a rock song this range of notes can sound good I’d mix especially with a little vocal fry. I’d say for most other genres falsetto or a blended falsetto starts getting nicer sounding up there.

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

Celine is doing this in mixed voice, yes you could definitely work on this to sound good….generally speaking I think for this range and style a woman usually just sounds a bit prettier since it is much higher for a man to achieve

[@j.goodwin2024]

Ok thanks.@@lemandoeslogic2261

[@j.goodwin2024]

Whenever it's sung, do I start in head then bring in that chest more in near the end where it goes into the 'hayay'@@lemandoeslogic2261

[@j.goodwin2024]

How much breath would I need for this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpiqaq1_rrmtq68si=qA2FhVUXJEdrRbYj&t=3251@@lemandoeslogic2261

[@myname8722]

Thank you! I'll try

[@yourmother355]

how was it myname8722?

[@CutieZalbu]

How high can you go with this so called mix voice? I can only go as high as B4 usually and E5 on good days,Can you also make a video on how to go from it sounding bad to good? Cause I can make the sounds easily but is barely intolerable for me to listen to it haha let alone others,once again,Amazing video….

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

thanks! the mixed voice doesn't really stop I know I can get to at least G5 while still in mix but I rarely would go up there. How to make it sound bad to good could be subjective but if you have more details I could try!

[@daincarver3775]

This leaves me more confused. I’m hitting these notes, but no matter what, It’s still thin and head-y. I’m a bass, so I know this is already going to be difficult, but i like i said i’m hitting the notes. I can preface it with a low larynx position, but it still comes out feeling weak and sounding thin. it seems as though i’ve run out of options; been work 6 months with not a shred of progress. I don’t even want the crazy 5th octave stuff. Even though I can make that happen, i just want a completed 4th octave. No matter what I cap out a F4 and from there it’s tragic. What can i do?? 😭

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

I was in the same boat as you for quite awhile I could maybe get to F# and was flat or pushing way too much above that. It's hard to diagnose exactly what's going on or what is weak simply over text but when I was having this issue I needed to first strengthen my falsetto to be very strong and resonant with ease to at least F5 and also make it pretty resonant and strong all the way to to around C4. After this is when I began trying to add Mask resonance almost overly nasal to be able to resonant well in this part of my voice in time. After enough practice being as relaxed as possible you should be able to slowly mix these resonances. I would suggest watching my medium mix video and my strengthening the falsetto video and see how you feel singing those. The full mix is the most advanced part of the mix; to be able to belt with power...it takes a lot of time. I do also offer private lessons or would be happy to watch an example of your singing.

[@kz_chi]

Is there any way to get above from a4? a#4 above makes me go wild on how high it is...

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

Absolutely, I can get to at least C5 with a chesty mix it just takes a long time. You have to really develop your mask in this area and then slowly add chest resonance

[@amirrjk6934]

when I lower my larynx my voice hurts a lot and I cant maintain it what should I do?

[@aionlover3981]

Allow to raise.

[@Arijit-BS7274]

I use to sing in open throated voice And my range is g#2- A4 How can I extend it to b4 or C5

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

There isn't really just one answer to that it can be different for everyone, I would have to hear how you hit an A4 and assess

[@Arijit-BS7274]

@@lemandoeslogic2261 can it be expand more ? How can I send you my clip

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

@@Arijit-BS7274 of course it can I could only go to f sharp in full/mixed voice at first now my mixed voice doest really end. If you want to book a lesson you can email me

[@Arijit-BS7274]

@@lemandoeslogic2261 how much time it will take?

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

@@Arijit-BS7274 To get past A4? I can't really just give you a time frame without hearing your voice first there are many factors

[@igotudave]

Are you pulling chest? I have no chest voice after D above middle C, it turns into falsetto and there’s no way to put any chest voice higher than that.

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

Yes I can have chest resonance even up to around C5. Mask resonance can go even higher than that in mix. If you can't go above D4 in chest, try watching my medium mix video, this most likely means you haven't created a mixed voice yet.

[@Alexander91one]

um, good um, video um

[@metehan5447]

What are u doing your door bro

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

It's haunted

[@geespar1]

@@lemandoeslogic2261 it’s when you did the ghostly ‘nay’, you summoned them 😄

[@alexalexandru8001]

How to sing in Higt mix?

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

My video on medium mix might help with that! It depends what range you mean.

[@aionlover3981]

This person clearly can't do it. Ask for a real teacher, someone certified on CVT, Estill something like that.

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

@@aionlover3981 Um I can sing above G5 in mix and have many students who I help with expanding their vocal range, so thank you. Plus, I think I went to C5 in mix in this, and I was demonstrating mostly chest voice.

[@Jferraro24]

@@aionlover3981 let’s see you do it then 😭

[@billybaldwin8918]

Why "thin" your voice out? The head voice is stronger than your chest voice. Why are your shoulders rising when you do the octave? "Voice cracks" are normal when you don't use proper technique. How about making a pleasant sound?

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

@@billybaldwin8918 you clearly are not educated in technique take your comments elsewhere

[@billybaldwin8918]

@@lemandoeslogic2261 LOL

[@notyourwaifu9692]

@@lemandoeslogic2261this guy looks like he’s just trolling you across multiple videos. So sorry you have to deal with bs like this. I’m a female singer, really appreciate this video, helped me a ton!!

[@lemandoeslogic2261]

@ thanks so much!!

[@billybaldwin8918]

@@lemandoeslogic2261 Come on, this really is a spoof video, right?