How to get BEAUTIFUL packs in Blender (UV Workflow)

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Josh Gambrell

Josh Gambrell

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UV Packing is incredibly important to optimize texture resolution and not waste UV space. This video will show you a quick way to achieve that!
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@mobilelast1715
@mobilelast1715 2 жыл бұрын
I’m just browsing through addons for texture handling, and this was a great tutorial. Densely packed islands can cause bleeding issues with mipmapping. In addition to padding, you may also want to snap islands to pixels (“UV” -> “Snap to Pixels” in vanilla Blender) and set texture resolution to power of two. It can help the texture downscaling problems a little. Usually mipmapping errors occur on small textures that are used on distant objects. So the bleeding is rarely visible. With emissive textures, however, the bleeding can cause very noticeable glitches that are hard to track down or even reproduce.
@weightednormal3682
@weightednormal3682 2 жыл бұрын
Every seam passing through a vertex will double its count. Fewer seams will reduce the cost for models in game. You have optimized the UV space but understand there is a tradeoff here with the large number of islands.
@jeffreyspinner9720
@jeffreyspinner9720 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I use you a lot!
@fyiicheckforspies
@fyiicheckforspies 2 жыл бұрын
If your model is mirrored you can save a ton of UV space by splitting the model in half and UV unwrapping half of it. When you apply the mirror modifier, the islands from both sides will be stacked on top of each other perfectly. This means it'll be textured the same on both sides but the texture will have much higher quality texel density
@benjaminfranklinstyl
@benjaminfranklinstyl 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds interesting, have to try it out
@BBoysLibya
@BBoysLibya Жыл бұрын
Yeah its a good idea but what abt the lightmaps ?
@everythingsource3807
@everythingsource3807 Жыл бұрын
You’ll have a seam down the middle
@michaeljburt
@michaeljburt Жыл бұрын
@@everythingsource3807 This is correct and something you need to be very careful about. Depending on how the normal data is interpreted, you will often get a seam (OpenGL swizzle vs DirectX or Vulkan). I believe the issue only exists in OpenGL rendering but I could be wrong I learned this the hard way after using a mirror for an entire character modeling, baking normal maps, etc. only to import in game and have a huge seam down the middle
@crimson-foxtwitch2581
@crimson-foxtwitch2581 Жыл бұрын
@@BBoysLibyathe mirroring trick you don’t do with environment objects.
@marcfuchs6938
@marcfuchs6938 2 жыл бұрын
I am not sure, how well this will serve for organic content (characters and the like), but certainly keeping this video saved and will try it out. We are not only blessed with a fantastic 3D program for free, but with great free tutorials about it.
@chidorirasenganz
@chidorirasenganz Жыл бұрын
square UVs are commonly used in anime style 3d
@thetruestar6348
@thetruestar6348 Жыл бұрын
Square map is the go to for characters in stylized 3D
@jezelf2774
@jezelf2774 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video . One note - putting your seam lines in places where you see them the least is a good idea/practice. So for those wheels, if the seam was on the inside at the back hidden, or obscured by other geometry then any texturing you do in the 'forward facing' areas most likely to be viewed, has less to zero chance of showing pixels that don't line up (unless you are texturing with symmetry or it's all 1 flat colour). Any pixel colour variation over seam lines will become exaggerated the lower your resolution. i.e if your working file is 4k and a game res has to be 1k - or lower (for mobile games), then there's a chance those ends won't look seamless. Might be in your guide - thanks for that btw! great job.
@WatThaDeuce
@WatThaDeuce 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, just one caveat: 'The #1 goal... is to use as much space... as possible.' I would add to this 'without causing distortion/stretching.' Straightening the UVs in this way will cause distortion, which may or may not be negligible.
@thomaspasieka1311
@thomaspasieka1311 2 жыл бұрын
Not only that but "Texel Density" is actually far more important. Unless you don't care for even resolution on your textures.
@WatThaDeuce
@WatThaDeuce 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomaspasieka1311 That's a good point. I think he mentions in the video that the add-on has a parameter to normalize texel density in some way.
@thomaspasieka1311
@thomaspasieka1311 2 жыл бұрын
@@WatThaDeuce I must have missed that. Of course it depends on the model/case but personally I find an even resolution far more important. You can get away with great discrepancies in texel resolution if the model is never inspected up close by the player. Mobile games are also a bit more forgiving in that regard.
@WatThaDeuce
@WatThaDeuce 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomaspasieka1311 Yea I always adjust UVs for texel density first, then start packing. If there's too much empty space then I'll atlas the object with a couple of other small ones.
@vinnypassmore5657
@vinnypassmore5657 2 жыл бұрын
Great advice from two great and competent artists who's love for and skill with Blender shows in every piece of content shared. Nice job guys, as per usual, thanks for sharing.
@MrGTAmodsgerman
@MrGTAmodsgerman 2 жыл бұрын
Also to save up some a lot of UV space is to overlay identical faces when its possible. Lets say you have a circle and you have a repeating pattern, you should try to mirror and UV unwrap the object in all directions right up on modeling to get a very small UV island that can then use a higher amount of pixels repeating all around in a circle. Hard to explain, but in case of the example in the video here, the UV circle island shouln't be cut only at one section (as its shown here), instead it gets cut into many identical pieces that get overlayed like an UDIM. I experienced that way of UV mapping on 3D models made by Rockstar Games. Just so you know what level this comes from.
@deqa
@deqa 10 ай бұрын
The problem is then you imply that those overlaying UV's share the same texture data, but otherwise it's sound. Wouldn't see how this would work for objects that need different texture data around a circle, like an AO bake that bakes different shadow data around different parts of the circle.
@MrGTAmodsgerman
@MrGTAmodsgerman 10 ай бұрын
@@deqa Well yea that is a problem. But in my example i was speaking about like an car tyre. That's why i said "if possible" in my comment. But on a car tyre you don't want different shadow look on the bake on a car tyre, because it will move obviously which then won't fit the light direction. It obviously only works if you have stuff in your texture that just repeats. So on some textures you better avoid using a AO bake if you want effient UV map while also getting better texture quality. In case of an car tyre i may would just bake it once with the car tyre UV islands not overlaying, just all on new tiles (UDIMS) and then after bake, put it back to the overlaying look so you have just a consistant and none bad looking bake while also having a efficient UV map. I hope you understand what i mean 😂 Now i really wonder what will R* do with GTA 6 and all the PBR workflow.
@thomaspasieka1311
@thomaspasieka1311 2 жыл бұрын
Actually the most important thing should be "Equal Texel Density" while using the most of the uv space possible. So having some spare space is actually not uncommon or wrong.
@IGarrettI
@IGarrettI 2 жыл бұрын
This guy game devs
@thomaspasieka1311
@thomaspasieka1311 2 жыл бұрын
@@IGarrettI Yeah that's what I do for a living for the past 20 years :)
@IGarrettI
@IGarrettI 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomaspasieka1311 go on, gives us some tutorials 😄
@thomaspasieka1311
@thomaspasieka1311 2 жыл бұрын
@@IGarrettI If I only had more time on my hands :)
@IGarrettI
@IGarrettI 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomaspasieka1311 ah I understand :(
@magnusrexus
@magnusrexus 2 жыл бұрын
You need space for dithering in game you will get textured edge bleeding when the texture resolution is stepped down
@mr1357989
@mr1357989 2 жыл бұрын
yeah i was gonna say this, needs more margin space, like .007 instead of the .003 he has it set at
@SendItSoftware
@SendItSoftware 28 күн бұрын
So I was just searching for UV packing and stumbled across your channel, and it cracked me up on stream because you have the same name as me 😂
@WolverineMKD
@WolverineMKD 2 жыл бұрын
Hey josh glad to see your still uploading great content old time lurker here keep it up!
@unfa00
@unfa00 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't thought about this - thanks!
@jorgewyclif5687
@jorgewyclif5687 2 жыл бұрын
outsanding video, truly a life saver
@3DWithLairdWT
@3DWithLairdWT 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy I've found this channel. Took my models to the next level for sure
@hiddenvoid
@hiddenvoid 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Nice to see that I am not the only one with this strange uv-squares bug. :)
@Shadrax2904
@Shadrax2904 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, the button "Make it cool" appeared. It is high time.
@FlightDeckMagazin
@FlightDeckMagazin 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this great tutorial.
@shadow777explorer
@shadow777explorer 2 жыл бұрын
And you end up with a seam in every circular piece of mesh... plus distortion in many areas, Nice! It is indeed a very cool tool for ones arsenal, but doesn't work in every scenario.
@altwhisper6920
@altwhisper6920 2 жыл бұрын
Not new for me but still thank you for you do. Your lessons are great. By the way, I use UV toolkit (it's paid) to straighten islands. There are no annoying bugs when use straight. I think in Zen UV (also paid) too.
@NightVisionOfficial
@NightVisionOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
There's UVP 3 Now! P.S. Zen UV have the straighten for island
@Bwern
@Bwern 2 жыл бұрын
I dont understand why blender doesnt purchase some of these addons. Like the packamster pro seems like it should be in base blender
@Bwern
@Bwern 2 жыл бұрын
@surprisedpikachu if they paid enough, ofc
@additiveartificer9365
@additiveartificer9365 Жыл бұрын
OH this will work with UV packmaster Nicely
@LycheeFast
@LycheeFast 5 ай бұрын
thank you so much for this video ! Also your free hard surface unwrapping guide's not working anymore, do you delete it ?
@BasicallyAnArtist
@BasicallyAnArtist 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for showing us this. 👍🏾
@SqualidsargeStudios
@SqualidsargeStudios 2 жыл бұрын
Have fun with overlapping textures
@sidney6582
@sidney6582 2 жыл бұрын
Very misleading to not at any point turn on UV stretch, or even to comment on that problem
@mikerusby
@mikerusby 10 ай бұрын
the problem with packing this way is that it pays no heed to the actual objects ie Blender will just pack for example the wheel all over the uv layout and not pay an regard to its location. what would be nice would be island groups so it only packs objects via proximity I just do each object 1 by one pack it , then do the same for the rest so you have a bunch of big uv square layouts for each object Then I will manually edit
@evoccs183
@evoccs183 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, really helped me out!
@ramiro6687
@ramiro6687 2 жыл бұрын
thanks josh
@bhuhuhuhuhbuhuh
@bhuhuhuhuhbuhuh Жыл бұрын
Hello, I was wondering if this workflow would work with overlapping UVs for optimization? This might allow for a lot more space lenience for things that are textured the same way. Would this allow for texel density?
@carlosbernal4629
@carlosbernal4629 2 жыл бұрын
how can I avoid unwrapping distortions when straightening the UVs in circular meshes
@WatThaDeuce
@WatThaDeuce 2 жыл бұрын
It's an inevitable tradeoff between packing/distortion/texel density
@abdullahahsan4942
@abdullahahsan4942 2 жыл бұрын
hi nice video and i always want my uv unwrap like this its look so clean. but when i try to straight my uv i get this stretching color change when i open display stretch from overlays. can u tell how to overcome this problem.😊
@patrickaherton3906
@patrickaherton3906 11 ай бұрын
Hello. I don't understand what this tool offer. It pack to the same texture resolution, so it will be no any advantages to reduce GPU memory usage. Is any tool exists to do the same, but pack and reduce texture usage and resolution. Also after using this tool all uv mapping is off from mesh and uv is broken. How to reapply new uv coordinates back to mesh? Thanks.
@lithium534
@lithium534 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a simple way to overlap UV's that will have the same texture? As manually aligning them is a pain and never perfect.
@TehPascu
@TehPascu 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! In the UV editor, select the parts that are gonna be mirrored, press G and press 1. That will move the selected faces 1 unit to the left (essentially, they're on the same spot, but it's way more clean and can avoid possible errors in baking and game engines :D). Also, if the mirrored part comes from a 'Mirror' modifier, there's options below the modifier that allow you to do modify the uv's of the mirrored parts
@lithium534
@lithium534 2 жыл бұрын
@@TehPascu Thank you for the tip. I'll have to try it out. I haven't see anything on this. Maybe everyone already know but me. :p
@mktacuara
@mktacuara 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to pack only select faces and not the entire model in one go?
@kamillatocha
@kamillatocha 2 жыл бұрын
love using uv pack master even for simple stuff cus blender sucks at filling UV holes
@Cyber_Kriss
@Cyber_Kriss 2 жыл бұрын
01:57 I dunno about you, but I downloaded the file on Github and installed it, but Blender doesn't show it in the add-ons list (although it confirms the install) Any idea why it happens ?
@destructorestelargalactico7345
@destructorestelargalactico7345 2 жыл бұрын
so far... as a newby, I think the UV unwrapping is the most difficult area from 3D art... at least I find it very counter-intuitive, there is never enough advices to learn UV unwrapping
@kernsanders3973
@kernsanders3973 2 жыл бұрын
As a person who has done 3D for quite a few years as a side hobby, UV unwrapping is still a bit of a hill. Although I mostly became reliant on auto unwrappers which is not ideal. Tutorials like these are gold to get a handle on it, I would suggest to tackle this subject early, of course when you feel ready but def as soon as possible to avoid putting off for years like I did lol.
@destructorestelargalactico7345
@destructorestelargalactico7345 2 жыл бұрын
@Jade for me it is a complete nightmare depending on the 3D model and texture you need to apply... I ever was doing the blender guru chair tutorial, and found very difficult to avoid distorted areas of the wood texture on the chair UV map... it was a model where the straigh line of the wood needs to be curved in some areas but streight again in others
@AAhmou
@AAhmou 2 жыл бұрын
@Jade Both are hell for me... UV unrapping being slightly easier than texture painting.
@pineappleparty1624
@pineappleparty1624 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just mad I didn't know about this before lol.
@caruya
@caruya 2 жыл бұрын
Is normalize island a good idea always? Wouldn't it be more efficient use of UV if you give those areas that have less visibility low texel density?
@WatThaDeuce
@WatThaDeuce 2 жыл бұрын
There's no one-size solution, of course. If you want lower resolution on some parts because it suits the needs of your project then go for it
@SputniksArmy
@SputniksArmy 2 жыл бұрын
Normalize the uvs that you will primarily see, and scale down the UVs that are either completely occluded, low visibility, or rarely seen.
@praveenb-xr
@praveenb-xr 2 жыл бұрын
how to install that standars uvpackmaster addon ..i downloaded windows exe , but how can i use that inside bleder
@teukuaulia4270
@teukuaulia4270 Жыл бұрын
how did u show the uv while not selecting all the faces?
@popattara
@popattara 2 жыл бұрын
You need to made more space between uv island it not like this use 8k texture.
@CGSeb-scifi
@CGSeb-scifi 2 жыл бұрын
The space is proportional to the resolution. On 8K you will put more pixel margin than on 4K 😉
@casualguy6354
@casualguy6354 2 жыл бұрын
I got a gift of 30$ for Christmas and I want to spend it on blender bros stuff so should I get a Patreon 1 tier and blender bros coaching community or the mech course
@CharlExMachina
@CharlExMachina Жыл бұрын
How do you auto unwrap every time you add a seam?
@dislikecounter6392
@dislikecounter6392 2 жыл бұрын
Why didnt you link to UV squares in the description... lmao...
@johnnizito
@johnnizito Жыл бұрын
How can i select the uv and zoom in the mesh?
@husseinabdulla
@husseinabdulla Жыл бұрын
Why doesn't anyone explain the installation of the addon!! I do not know why this add-on is different in the installation method for all add-ons
@rishabhsharma472
@rishabhsharma472 6 ай бұрын
why we can use smart uv unwrap
@DiegoSilva-zm3ke
@DiegoSilva-zm3ke 2 жыл бұрын
This kind of uv works fine with mipmaps?
@WatThaDeuce
@WatThaDeuce 2 жыл бұрын
Will depend on padding and how low-res the mip maps get.
@Butterbilk
@Butterbilk 2 жыл бұрын
Not really an accurate demonstration of the straightening tip if you're comparing the packs from Blender's native packer and UVPackmaster. A lot of the density is coming from the better packing algorithm. Should show the pack before and after straightening both times using the same packer.
@andreyu6440
@andreyu6440 2 жыл бұрын
thk u we love u :'(
@chaosordeal294
@chaosordeal294 18 күн бұрын
If your model isn't in quads, you should have made it into quads.
@AllExistence
@AllExistence 2 жыл бұрын
In the end, it's just an ad.
@alexiselliott2995
@alexiselliott2995 7 ай бұрын
The FREE Hard Surface Unwrapping Guide is no longer available.
@nobocks
@nobocks 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes had the feeling all of that should be automatic. Especially when you modify something and then do all UV unwrap again. Big lost of time :(
@EBDeveloper
@EBDeveloper Жыл бұрын
The #1 rule of UV Mapping is ensuring no unwanted distortion. Maximizing UV Space is only important in certain industries. You should label your video "realtime art" as this only matters in game art. ALso, you should hide seems behind other geo when possible. .. I skipped through, unsure why I bothered,,
@HalkerVeil
@HalkerVeil 2 жыл бұрын
Squares being smaller means LESS resolution... Unless you mean making others smaller so the rest have more space.
@EatuopLyreqzgj-f5l
@EatuopLyreqzgj-f5l Ай бұрын
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@D-K-C
@D-K-C 2 жыл бұрын
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@remusveritas739
@remusveritas739 8 ай бұрын
I have a question: WHERE THE FUCK ARE VIDEOS THAT ARE ACTUALLY FOR BEGINNERS AND EXPLAIN THE BASIC PRICIPLE; WHERE TO KLICK TO DO WHAT ALL "BEGGINER" TUTORIALS START ANYWHERE HOW IS ANYBODY SUPPOSED TO LEARN THIS SHIT?????????
@juniornxumalo3225
@juniornxumalo3225 7 ай бұрын
don't get angry at the video brother 😂 you aren't searching properly , that's all . type 'Blender Guru' into your search bar and do his doughnut tutorial
@mrCetus
@mrCetus 2 жыл бұрын
You need space for dithering in game you will get textured edge bleeding when the texture resolution is stepped down
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