In this Episode 2 of HUGE VOCALS I show you the secrets to HUGE background vocals like the wall of sound on Def Leppard, Nickelback, or Bryan Adams records that Mutt Lange is so famous for.
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@manifestgtr2 жыл бұрын
When I first heard “photograph” as a kid, I knew they had done something crazy when they recorded it. It’s funny, I never really got that feeling with Queen (who was my favorite band in the 80s-90s) but Mutt Lange’s production really had an air of mystery to it. The sounds are micro-engineered to come across very specifically…to this day, photograph has some of my favorite background vocals of all time.
@livefromstudioa82453 жыл бұрын
I do zero home recording (or any recording, for that matter), and I find these videos incredibly interesting. Amazing that you can get access to this level of expertise “freely” available and at your fingertips (literally). What a time to be alive. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks so much! I really appreciate that!!
@AimingWanderously3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Folks like Bobby are true heroes.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
@@AimingWanderously wow thanks so much for the kindness man! I really appreciate it!
@kerpela Жыл бұрын
You are very talented sound engineer! I assume that a lot of us know enough about recording and processing vocals. However, this is Mutt level tips man! Thanks heaps! 👍🏼
@BobbyHuff Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Martin!
@dylanryche3 жыл бұрын
Dude - as a child of the 80s..and fan of all those Mutt Lange records, I LOVE this. Great job Man. I've done this before - but never those extra breathy vocals - can't wait to try that out.
@slowpokeproductions3 жыл бұрын
Just shared this vid on FB group, "Produce Like A Pro Students" with someone looking to learn how to recreate Mutt's vocal stacks. You're the best, Doc.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks a lot Slow Poke I appreciate you!
@slowpokeproductions3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff Ya gotta tell me how to get that snare sound...that's gotta be Mutt's snare trick, no?
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
@@slowpokeproductions yes I def used the Mutt trick on that one!
@DavidDiMuzio3 жыл бұрын
I knew a lot of this, but wasn't aware of the use of a Reverse reverb, and hadn't thought to tame the midrange on the vocal stack using something like Soothe. Those are great additions that are going to help me nail this sound even better! Btw, for anyone that's reading this the Steven Slate plugin Fresh Air does the same Dolby Encoder Type A effect thing and is FREE.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks David!
@JaviBello3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Fresh Air advice, David!!
@jesiahnickolas48752 жыл бұрын
Instablaster...
@christiankoch56463 жыл бұрын
"I couldn't care less if these turn red." - fucking brillant :-)
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Haha! Light um up!!
@bjh3v4 жыл бұрын
All I know is that I’m ready to bring it onnnnn. Great job on the videos and channel, Pal.
@BobbyHuff4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Horton! Bring it on!!
@brian_whitscell3 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoy the content on this channel, Bobby! Thanks for sharing your knowledge and humor! Yes, I hit the 'bell' button too!! Bring on the videos!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch Brian!
@tsho59344 жыл бұрын
I love these videos - thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge.
@BobbyHuff4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for watching!
@reinhardvanbiljon13 жыл бұрын
Your channel is a goldmine even for beginners to start trying things like this.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching man.
@rdh11303 жыл бұрын
Great video. I’m taken back when I was 13 listening to pyromania always wondering how it was possible for the vocals to sound so awesome on that album. And I also remembering turning off my Dolby NR on most of my cassettes as I thought it took away too much of the highs. Again. Great video !
@smtonlinevideos3 жыл бұрын
I really love the idea of taking the time to make something great! Thanks for these videos!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stephen!!
@andy_given2 жыл бұрын
Amazing sir. I'm just getting back into this. Time to put a pot of tea on!!
@DanBaileyPhoto3 жыл бұрын
Really digging your channel, man! As someone who grew up listening to the incredible work these legendary musicians and producers made in the 70s and 80s, it’s simply mind blowing to think about the creative and engineering genius that went into these songs, especially considering that it was done with analog gear, AND the fact that you actually had to strategize how to use your outboard gear; since you could only run one patch cable into any single unit, unlike plugins of today, when you could use the same one on every channel. Anyway, keep up the good... no... great work!!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dan...AGREED!
@DanBaileyPhoto3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff Given the prevailing technology back then, and given how many vocal tracks Mutt would record with a band like Def Leppard, my guess is that he dedicated entire reels of 2" tape to those BKV stacks, maybe even two or three per song, which were later bounced down and flown back into the final mix as a stereo track. Imagine the archive of reels lying around somewhere that are filled with nothing but these giant, breathy vocal stacks.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
@@DanBaileyPhoto you are exactly correct Dan!!!
@jettjaguar81503 жыл бұрын
great producing mate ! , outstanding content ....... learned a lot .... love Mutt Lange's productions ... thank you
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff. I appreciate you watching and commenting man!
@mickobrien3156 Жыл бұрын
I just know... 'Beat My Heart Like A Drum' is going to creep into my head ...on my drive to work... at work... after work... and when I'm trying to go to sleep.
@garygrinkevich69713 жыл бұрын
"We're not worthy", *bows* I never imagined I could progress far enough to be learning production on this level you're helping to save the world sharing this knowledge with us, tactical british vowel usage with 60 layers is blowing my mind right now, like hearing pyromania and hysteria all over even the late stuff like "too late for love" - incredible.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for the kindness man!!!!!
@jonrosenblum83713 жыл бұрын
This channel has some great information! Subscribed!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jon and thanks for the sub!!
@SDH20233 жыл бұрын
Finally someone showing how it is properly done. Nice. 😎👍
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sixth Sanctum!! I appreciate it!
@kevdmiller3 жыл бұрын
Wow this video really opened up some possibilities...I've done 5 takes per harmony and thought I was being over the top, but I never would have thought to do TWENTY. Thankyou for validating my excessive approach by giving me the go-ahead to QUADRUPLE my approach! :)
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin...stack it up!!!
@ST-fl5fy2 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic!
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks ST!
@cthouse37223 жыл бұрын
really great stuff Dr.Bob ... glad I found you on the ground floor
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks CT and thanks for watching!
@JohnnyPunish3 жыл бұрын
Just found you...fantastic! New Subscriber! Thank you! Love seeing others do the tasks. It really helps! Thank you
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching and subbing Johnny!
@kevinsturges69572 жыл бұрын
Your tutorials are amazing. Subscribed!
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin!
@myversionofstuff2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Thanks.
@joaoantoniovione4842 жыл бұрын
Coming back here to thank you for these videos. I used these techniques in the last productions I've made, the band went crazy experimenting. Doing it in group makes things even more fun (that's what she said xD). We even did vocals in a empty room, 30+ tracks of moo's for another song, combined with actual harmonies and counterpoints at times.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks Joao! I appreciate you watching and Im so happy it worked for you man!
@jebatman7563 жыл бұрын
6:10 "And then tune heavily" Noooooooooo!!!!! You were the chosen one!!!!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Hhahahaha!! Hilarious!!! I love Star Wars.. Very funny Jeb! Strong the force is with this one.
@1cenobite3 жыл бұрын
Bhahahah haha, Truth
@JasonMcNamara3 жыл бұрын
Talent, Rock & Roll and Comedy 🤘🎭 Nice work!!!!!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha thanks Jason! I appreciate it!
@DannyRobertsMetalCovers3 жыл бұрын
Sweet. I always wondered how they did this. Thanks for this video!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Danny!
@davidallenhammond27773 жыл бұрын
Thank you Bobby, this was really informative. Subscribed.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks David! I appreciate you watching and subbing man!!
@retailhutch91082 жыл бұрын
Wow! Just great ... I've been wondering for years how RTB got those heavy chorus background vocals for Cars and Queen - thanks for the direction!
@fydstar2 жыл бұрын
Mmmmm? Maybe now is the time to add some Leppard vocal magic to my music, after all, they were the first band I loved?! Great vid!
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@thisvocaljourney2 жыл бұрын
That was great!!!
@MichaelGuy2 жыл бұрын
Fricken amazing knowledge. Unreal
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael!
@briancase61803 жыл бұрын
Super cool. Thanks!
@mrparkinson3 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome tutorial. Thank you!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Michael and thanks for watching!
@seancampbell173 жыл бұрын
More like Loverboy's Lovin Every Minute of It!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Yes.....written by Mutt!
@RealScottPowers3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff I...did not know that!
@taliastewart4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of our Throw It My Way stacks. Wall of vocals. And Vice. The character headspace is where the money is!! Miss ya doc
@BobbyHuff4 жыл бұрын
Miss u girl!
@txtamaman3 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff brother!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@BobbyLouxMusic Жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@BobbyHuff Жыл бұрын
Thanks Bob!
@TheEndOfThings3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Awesome result.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Fire! I appreciate that!
@robr4713 жыл бұрын
You have the best video intros, It pulls me in. By the way, I haven't found it, but a future video on your computer specs would be priceless to us.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Ill keep that in mind rob! Thanks for watching! I'm all PC even my video computer which is much more powerful than my music computer which is pretty powerful too!
@RyanMonty3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff Would definitely be interested. Looking to maybe build a new one for my studio.
@KhayJayArt3 жыл бұрын
Broooooo great job I learned so much! 😭😭😭
@JaviBello3 жыл бұрын
I was needing this so much!!!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Perfect! Hope it helps!
@JaviBello3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff A lot, thanks so much. How I didn't find your channel before??? 😁
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
@@JaviBello hahaha! I don’t know but I’m glad you did! Spread the word!
@JaviBello3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff sure!
@brettallgood65412 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brett!
@lodestar98772 жыл бұрын
Really dig your channel Bobby, I compose and produce music of various genres and work with the same tools as you so its cool to see a no nonsense approach to producing. As a suggestion for teaching a trick with country vocals, many baritones have that Michael Buble common tone that doesn't translate well with the deeper baritones required for country music. We all know how Michael Buble would sound if he tried to sing country. But a post production trick that works well for creating deeper vocal sounds is simply doing a processed pitch shift drop of 30 cents. 50 cents if you want a deeper rap vocal, hence the name. But I found that a 30 cent drop still sounds natural all the while deepening the natural baritone voice. Also its refreshing to see a producer who is focusing on bands that were primarily geared towards baritone vocalists. Today nearly all male pop music songs are tenors. Nothing wrong with tenors since George Michael for instance was an awesome tenor. Its just that they are singing in a way that is pre-pubescent, meaning that they sound like boys who haven't yet reached puberty. A sign of our times I guess. But it really would be cool if we could bring back the baritone pop singer and I think you are doing your part to contribute that way. Bravo!
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for the great comment my friend!!
@MichaelStrick93 жыл бұрын
This sounds like a B side that was cut from Hysteria. If Joe, Phil, or Mutt ever listen to this video, they have to be thinking the same thing.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Ha! Thanks Michael.
@bwhog3 жыл бұрын
Especially with that compressed room mic on the snare. ;)
@garygrinkevich69713 жыл бұрын
thought the same thing when he played the layered vocals the first time smiling from ear to ear =]
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
@@garygrinkevich6971 hahah! Thanks! I’ll take that as a huge compliment!
@garygrinkevich69713 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff dude I'm glad I found you early before your channel blows up, you have great ears elo, evh, dio the sounds are due for a massive comeback and alot of this space is committed to djent and metal with the same sounds, drops, blast beats.
@Banditman3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great insights! I am a huge fan of Mutt's unique production style and these sorts of peeks behind the curtain are both interesting and helpful. I really love the insight regarding how to "play a character" when recording this style of BGV. It's not obvious . . . until someone shows you, and then it's like a light bulb moment. I have a question about the "Type A" plug in you're using there. To my ears, it sounds an awful lot like an aural exciter. Can you explain how (or if?) it differs from an exciter?
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian...they are both very similar in hyping the top end. Either one will work just fine! Good comment!
@bluecollarstudio85133 жыл бұрын
My son is an engineer that works for various producers, he says everyone he works with references Mutt Lange. Even the hip hop guys.
@campbellabbott16552 жыл бұрын
Hi mate what an awesome video, just one quick question with regards to the fine tuning of the tracks, in your part one video where you had the 8 tracks of each harmony part and you set it up with hard left -15 cents, hard right normal, hard left normal, hard right -15 cents and the same again on the next four tracks but with it being + 15 cents instead… how would you do that when you have 20 tracks of each part ? Thanks
@alanunseld49423 жыл бұрын
wow very informative bobby🥁
@asawiggins4 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah! Everyone needs to buy Soothe... it is next level 🤘🏼
@BobbyHuff4 жыл бұрын
It’s a great one!
@acason43 жыл бұрын
Amazing! So this is how you create those “computer gang” background vocals. I always thought that sound was created via effects, turns out I was completely wrong...🤦🏼♂️
@BladesMusic3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Amazing how you can take some relatively small and unarranged vocals and make them sound SO huge when stacking that many times. I have recorded a lot of backups and I always stop WAY short of this many stacks, usually stopping at a few of each part - shame on me. Going to have to think about doing something like this next time.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Haha. All good Blades. There is strength in numbers!
@CaptainMidnightBand Жыл бұрын
Bobby! Great vid. Tell me about the drum track and fx please
@brianmenear4458 Жыл бұрын
Def Leppard would be proud of you!!!
@spigglemyxic12613 жыл бұрын
Hiya Mr. Bobby! These videos effing rock so hard! I applied a few of the techniques you outlined and came up with about 20 seconds of audio that I'm actually kinda proud of. I'm a total novice and to get something that I don't feel ashamed of is a-m-a-z-i-n-g!!!! I caqn't and won't post it publicly but if you have a private contact method I'd be glad to send you a link, if you're interested. I'm really looking forward to watching your other videos. You have a talent for teaching old dogs new tricks. Thank you!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Thank you Spiggle! You made my day! Dr.bobmusicsurgery@gmail.com
@spigglemyxic12613 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff Heads up Doc! Some musical ideas which were severely wounded in the battlefield of my brain are being heli-vacced to you! There are parts everywhere and lots of bleeding...
@davidjacobsen19033 жыл бұрын
Good one!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thank you David!
@krma19703 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these great valuable tips. Feeling a little desperate though... 60 backing vocal tracks??? OMFG :-)
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Someone’s 200 vocal tracks!
@DAVIDJCARON3 жыл бұрын
Great ideas and tips as always Bobby.. I am wondering though, do you not use a pop-shield or any acoustic room treatment when recording vocals, or did you just not bother when stacking backing vocals or when doing tutorials?
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Hey David I do use a pop shield! The built in one on the SM7 does pretty good. If I notice that I’m getting a lot of P’s in a certain song because of the lyric I’ll throw another one up. I always use one on all other mics as well. Thanks for watching!
@andyclark45573 жыл бұрын
Great job, what software are you using?, btw I subscribed and the 601 like.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andy!! I appreciate it! I use Cubase.
@andyclark45573 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff thanks bud.
@Skoora3 жыл бұрын
If you want some decent group sounding group handclaps, is there a way to do it yourself without it being too homogenous or would you simply use a sample?
@vermillionvideography11483 жыл бұрын
13:06 the sub for extra kick on the final take.. nice
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!!!!
@artofpretention3 жыл бұрын
Hey Bob, awesome stuff. You've taken what I've already learned over the years and ramped it up to 11! one question though. How would the main/lead vocal be approached? Something similar to this in the center with less overdubs?
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Hey man I really appreciate the kindness! My normal chs lead vocal “program,” is lead up the middle, dbl panned at about 11oclock and tucked under the lead and then a triple and a quad either hard panned L and R or at 10 and 2 depending on how it hits me. I also play with the inner balances of all these to find the sweet spot for every song as it’s usually different.. hope that explained it brother..
@artofpretention3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff thnx for the reply! So you are indeed layering the living shit out of the lead too? I usually only do 1 lead and only double it once with some delay at a lower volume than the main. So you're suggesting doing way more layering than I already am. Thnx for the insight. It is invaluable!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
@@artofpretention yes try that and if you don’t need the triple and quad you can always mute them but I always record them to have just in case.
@DeanWThomas3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to use this technique in a new song I'm working on. I'm absolutely loving your channel.
@vincemoffitt72013 жыл бұрын
Can you do a Salisbury hill video breakdown.... Please
@hadleymanmusic3 жыл бұрын
That grand staircase brought on the lights
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!
@Vambibuda3 жыл бұрын
This guy is amazing. Urban spanish music such as bad bunny, not sure if you are familiar. Don't think they use so many vocals. What do you think?
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
I’ll check them out!
@jrzpx7 ай бұрын
Booby u're a genious!!!!
@jacepawlak3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't hurt that you have the vocal tone you have. :)
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Geez Jace thank you!!! So kind..
@jacepawlak3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff I'm digging your channel. I am a music junkie too. And Mutt Lange and David Foster or 2 of my producing idols. Along with Richie Zito, Beau Hill, Mike Stone, Terry Thomas, Bruce Fairbairn, Michael Wagener, and several others in sure I cant think of now. Next do a video on the Desmond Child inhuman vocal stacking haha (I'm not serious) Dig your channel man. Ive produced and mixed a few of my own albums but I'm not great at it. I'm a writer and arranger, but I'm kind of a shit producer and cant mix for anything. My point is I admire what you're doing. Thank you. :)
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
@@jacepawlak yeah I love all those guys!! Know a few and worked with a few..We have very similar taste. I’ll throw Roy Thomas Baker, Keith Olsen, Bernard Edwards, Max Martin, and Maurice White on that list too! Thanks for watching!
@fatthor24763 жыл бұрын
sweet
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Thor!!
@carlsalazar44902 жыл бұрын
This seems like such tedious work. How do you keep track of 200 tracks? Was Mutt using Pro Tools at the time? I’m not a big Def Leppard fan, but do I have a new appreciation for their recordings. Thanks for your work.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Hey Carl. It is tedious! Mutt was using Fairlight or Synclavier.
@rhoadnaroahs3 жыл бұрын
20 takes of each, wow!!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Did a BGV session for a HUGE rock producer yesterday with 80!
@coolmacatrain94343 жыл бұрын
I wish you could go back and produce bands like "Trapeze". I always thought that a couple of their songs could have been huge hits if they'd "filled" them out more with backing vocals and "grander" arrangements ..I'm thinking specifically of songs like "Feelin' so much better now" "You are the Music" and the mighty "Loser"!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Ill have to go listen to those. Thanks!
@procrastinator93 жыл бұрын
With my untrained ear I can't really tell a difference in most of your tweaks. That's why I'm here and you're there.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! We are all trying to get better at it man!!
@napynap3 жыл бұрын
Interesting technique, and really does capture that Hysteria sound, however, I don't remember DAWs being a thing back in '87. So how would they have recorded some 60 tracks of vocals on analog tape back then?
@jordibarlow13073 жыл бұрын
Bouncing down and overdubbing.
@mihneazoican24792 жыл бұрын
Look up Rick Beato’s recent interview with Brian May. He goes into great detail on how they recorded the vocals for Bohemian Rhapsody on a 24 track
@WineSippingCowboy3 жыл бұрын
In an interview with Jeremy White, Bryan Adams said he sang a phrase 3 or so times with Mutt Lange. BA thought he was finished. Mutt said that was only for the left speaker! L🤣L The Cars worked with Roy Baker + Mutt Lange. Their production styles were as different as night is to day! 🙄 The same goes with Michael Bolton, who worked with Mutt + David Foster. Good tips! 😎
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
I love all those producers. Maybe by favs and throw in Max Martin.
@WineSippingCowboy3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah! Bryan Adams is 1 of the few who worked with Max Martin, Mutt and LM friends Foster + Bob Rock. BA could have worked with his friend Bruce Fairbairn, but BF passed on suddenly in 1999. In an interview BF wanted to work with BA but never had the chance. RIP.
@TheSteveKinney3 жыл бұрын
Where's the Dolby 361a's?.... edit.. oh wait, I just had to wait further into the video. cheers brotha! amazing video.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha!! That’s funny Steve!!
@noworries123 жыл бұрын
man,I wonder, how they did it in the 80s without all those plugins? IBryan said Mutt used 96 vocal tracks (left+right) on "Thought I'd died and gone to heaven"
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
TOOK A LOT OF TIME!!!!!
@Skoora3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know what was the max of machines you could lock together with smpte but probably had to record 24 tracks and dump them down to a mall group or maybe even a stereo pair, possibly out to a 2 track machine and flying it back in and do it all again and again.
@jerrylclement3 жыл бұрын
That’s a lot of work
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
YeS!!!!!
@infelicitas3 жыл бұрын
The thing is though. Mutt Lange didn't have the technology we have now so all those imperfections would've likely stayed on the record instead of going in and editing them all
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
That’s why Def Leppard records took so long to make and went way over budget! Worth it though!!
@gubin8er8983 жыл бұрын
Good video but I have a question. Did you really need all 20 vocals on each different part? Having listened to it a number of times I could not hear that many vocals. I was always told that using the same voice too many times gave diminished results as they just blend in. I think how Queen and other bands did it was to use different vocalists singing all the parts to give a different and bigger sound..... but I could be wrong.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
It is great to have different singers but you can also alter your own voice and get great results. Even with stacks of your own voice you will get natural chorus affects. I've also sang with other people and its worse depending how our voices blend. Your ear will tell you what sounds best but for huge background vocals big stacks always work really well. Just sang some for a HUGE producer and I sent him 218 tracks!!
@adambrandon13 жыл бұрын
I never knew that Mutt Lange was South African. Represent
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Yes he is!!
@KlonBlastbeat3 жыл бұрын
For alternative rock ala 90s/2000s, would you suggest recording a smaller mob? Or is 20 dudes per part your magic number regardless of genre? Also do you think it sounds better to do this trick with multiple vocalists, or the consistency of one?
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Great questions Kenny. It really depends on each song. There are no rules. Just go with your gut and your ear will tell you if it sound right! Thanks man.
@KlonBlastbeat3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff no, thank YOU!
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
@@KlonBlastbeat I know I didn’t give you any specific answer but the answer really is try what your gut says until it sounds right. The best part about this is the options that you asked me about are very intelligent and would be the same routes I would take at finding what works best so your angle at looking at this is dead on.
@FlightDeckStudios3 жыл бұрын
Dang it dude, you're amazing! How do you get that "line" in cubase that you used to check to see where all the vocals lined up?
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Flight Deck! I appreciate that! Im sorry but Im confused at the line...please explain and Ill be happy to answer you man!
@FlightDeckStudios3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff Ok at 7:25 you have the "play head" line & a secondary "line" I'm sure its called something but I don't know what. On a side not, man I have just watched several of your videos! You are the man!!! I hope that makes sense. Dude If your still in Nashville, I would love to buy you some lunch and chat music production with you! Louie Ruiz.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
@@FlightDeckStudios thanks man! Let me go check that line out
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
@@FlightDeckStudios that Is just the time line in Cubase and I put it on the grid at the start of those vocals to see if they all start together. Does that make sense??
@FlightDeckStudios3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff hmm, is it something I need to turn on? All I see in mine is the Play Head line, I don't even have a line that moves with the cursor (Cubase 11 pro)
@skipbauchmam59953 жыл бұрын
Lots of work, but it sounds incredible.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Skip!
@skipbauchmam59953 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuffYou’re welcome 😎
@HARPERSSON3 жыл бұрын
The only thing you forgot was to "dip" the word DRUM in the answer vocal - it's covering up " on" in the original line. I would have just brought that word down in the sub bus by a few DB.
@MrJohndl2 жыл бұрын
No way my computer could handle this.
@jamujesperandersen86993 жыл бұрын
Sounds great! Love the sounds from the vintage plukins👍. Would you like to hear what 540 voices sounds like?? I recreated 10cc’s tapeloop voices in a new song. Sounds overworldly.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! That’s awesome love that song! Very cool Jamu!
@revuutube3 жыл бұрын
Damn I was about to say it would be better if you did some belting takes but then you put on the effects and that's exactly why I say all those producers saying effects don't make the difference are wrong
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@gizmogearloose33912 жыл бұрын
...MORE Sorcery!!!!
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@erockscott11843 жыл бұрын
Looks like there's hope for those of us who have to do vocals ourselves without hiring a singer.
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Oh big time!!
@pedrobernardo58873 жыл бұрын
That soothe is just cheating 😂. Awesome
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
OHHHH its a good one!!!!!
@lucianwraith3 жыл бұрын
Def Leppard was a boy band.
@AimingWanderously3 жыл бұрын
A boy band that could play instruments, and made rock!
@dennislacroix99623 жыл бұрын
Cubase has vocal alignment
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Yes and its good!
@jimmpanik34023 жыл бұрын
why is episode #1 titled as #2?
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
There are 2 videos back to back about huge vocals...
@cashlandrumful2 жыл бұрын
You can record 60 verses of yourself singing the same lyrics or just go to the mulitverse, find 60 of "yourself" and do it in one take....easy peasy...
@stevenshorts5553 жыл бұрын
Hey! How do I contact you? Trying to see if you would be interested in mixing &
@BobbyHuff3 жыл бұрын
Hey Steven. dr.bobmusicsurgery@gmail.com
@IrnBruNYC3 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. You had 80% of the Mutt Lange backing vocal sound as soon as you were done tracking the 60 vocal parts - before you got into tuning, aligning, and adding effects and EQ. How did he do this in the 80s when he was working with at most 48 tracks (2 24 track machines sync’ed up)? I’m guessing he would devote an entire 24 track machine to vocal parts, then when he was done laying down those parts, he would bounce the 24 tracks down to 2-6 tracks, freeing up space for the band to add overdubs to the basic tracks and backing vocal mix down? But he didn’t have a plug-in or Pro Tools to correct the vocal alignment, so he just had to endure the painful process of recording and re-recording each part until they were all sufficiently in sync? I guess it helps that he is famously a really good singer. Whatever he got paid for making those records for Def Leppard, The Cars, etc. he was worth it. What about the backing vocals he did for Shania Twain? He seems to have embraced a... less threatening (?), “sweeter” approach to his singing. But he still followed the basic philosophy of many, many vocal parts layer on top of each other to make it sound BIG?
@Melvin77273 жыл бұрын
Keep researching it. Going down the Mutt Lange rabbit hole is extraordinary and well worth it