How to Get Started with Logseq | Videos I wish I had (Part 1)

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

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[@incogyt]

Is this still the best resource?

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

@@incogyt it's still relevant, although there have been updates.

[@ryanwhite6381]

Wow, this was timely for me. Thanks!

[@bonniesimon14]

Yes this is exactly what I wanted. A video on the philosophy of using tools like Logseq. Excellent video man. Waiting for the next one.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks! I've also found this course to be super valuable - www.jamoe.org/roam I will pin this so that it is more accessible should others also want to access

[@GeraldOSullivan]

This was great. I especially liked the journal/pages discussion because it links to the bigger issue of Logseq as a zettelkasten

[@Mike-br4hg]

You don't need to apologize so many times for this being long, or for the fact that it has a bunch of theory :) This is awesome!

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks Mike - definitely need to work on being less apologetic!

[@small_strides]

Another good video! My favourite part was the "Should I use the journal or a page to enter information." Your approach of "showing your workings" by exploring principles, and then show use cases and examples is extremely useful. Keep it up! :)

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks Benedict :) Hoping to continue in the same vein.

[@georgeorwelltheman]

Exceptional video very accesible to the layman. I am a law student - and Logseq, along with your videos, have formed an unprecedented boost to my productivity.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks so much for the feedback, awesome to hear :)

[@jamesdsouza76]

This is a great video. For me - understanding the theoretical underpinnings makes using it more effective - and likely! Thank you. I'm actually re-evaluating my whole knowledge management system.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks James. I'm glad that others enjoy the theoretical underpinnings too 🙂

[@Nathan-sh1re]

This video is helpful for anyone who's interested in discovering different techniques for managing the influx of info in whatever note-taking system!

[@christopher_hipp]

Awesome video! I also think twice if a video is longer than 15 minutes (maybe even over 10), but this one flew by so quickly :D You have a great ability to put your thoughts into simple words. Keep it up!

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks Christopher:)

[@Kreliho]

As others have said, this is an excellent video on the philosophy behind using logseq, and it is absolutely "the video I wish I had." I have always used top down organization in the past and I had trouble understanding how to use and organize information in logseq. Most of the other videos I've come across before now just assumed that this was established information. Wonderful video, thank you!!

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thank you so much, I appreciate the comment 🙏🏼

[@cw1847]

This was a great video, and very enlightening. You're an excellent communicator. I am new to PKM and linked notes in general. It's been a little overwhelming to be honest, but the principles are starting to make sense.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks Colby, appreciate the feedback. Linked notes are definitely worth the learning curve, good luck with the journey :)

[@GrahamLaight]

+1 . Might need to revisit this video after getting comfortable with the application.

[@sarlovesoccer]

i feel like i've seen so many videos trying to understand Logseq and whether it would be useful for me to download and this is the first one that actually answered all of my questions. i loved your macro/theoretical approach sososo much - about to watch part 2 now

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

So glad it resonated with you 🙏🏼

[@WallstreetDoctor]

I usually use Notion for most of my productivity workflows and journaling but I find Logseq's method of node-linking and mind-mapping to suit what I agree with internally. This is a great video and there are loads of good stuff to glean from it. Keep putting out these content.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks!

[@jordanwellness5657]

I love this, explaining the concept of how things work should always go first , thank you and appreciate it !

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

You're welcome :)

[@tffsnyder]

I'm very glad to discover you! This is important stuff you are talking about. Thanks

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks Thomas, very kind words 🙏🏽

[@themichaelferrari]

Wow... thank you. I believe you are a good zettelkasten practicioner, since you taught us in that order. It is clear and easy to understand. Before this, I was confused on how should I move from Obsidian to LogSeq. Now I know the big picture on how to implement Zettelkasten Method on LogSeq (I'm starting Zettelkasten 5.0, yes, I've restarted that many times, I'm positive this will be the last version). Thanks a lot, friend! I can't wait to see more videos of yours in the future.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks Mike, appreciate the kind words :) I think I'm also on about version 3.0 now - all part of the process 🤦‍♂️

[@emmaleez]

This is a great video, thanks for putting it together. I'm contemplating a jump from Obsidian to Logseq, and walking through the basic principles helped me understand the distinctions better than similar written or video resources.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Glad it was helpful :)

[@recyclebinladen5903]

Watching your videos made me understand how Logseq really fits with my way of thinking. I've been trying really hard with Obsidian since the last couple weeks, but I've always come out disheartened and demotivated. I gave Logseq a go with your videos on the side and hot damn! I think this could be it! Thank you, kind stranger making useful videos! EDIT: The only major drawback of Logseq is that it doesn't have folders- but I'm going to try and make it work.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks so much for the kind comment, and all the best 👍🏽 I hope it works out for you 🙂

[@nhannguyen2190]

Thank you so much for making this video and inviting us into your thought processes and underlying philosophy, which is not usually discussed by other KZbinrs yet is paramount in help me implement my own system as you said in the video. Exactly what I wanted and much needed.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks Nhan :) Glad you found it helpful.

[@rsedan]

Thank you! This is exactly what I needed. I’ve been floundering about bouncing back-and-forth among different notes apps, such as the Roam, Obsidian, Workflowy, Amplenote, etc., and I think I just needed To understand more per family what was that I was looking for. Thank you so much.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Glad it helped Ricardo 🙏🏽

[@SuburbanGurban]

Thanks, I just decided to give up Roam, because I never got to make it work. I like your personal touch, especially the explanation of the difference between journal and page. I never made that distinction in Roam. My aim is to go all the way Zettelkasten and make it work this time with LogSeq.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Glad to hear :) Best of luck!

[@DennisChaves]

Thank you! I found the video very helpful and I took notes about it in Logseq! I think your approach makes sense and I'm beginning to understand how I can adapt this to how I work and what I need. I work in manufacturing so I'm not exactly a "knowledge worker" but I'm moving into a management role where I think keeping track of information will become more important.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Glad it was helpful :) I guess there's an argument to be made that everyone works with knowledge in some way, even if they're not in a traditional "knowledge worker" role

[@rattlesnakerenegades770]

Thanks, after a few days of using LogSeq that was my main doubt "Should I use de daily log or a specific page for this?" You answer pretty well the question 🙂

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Glad that it was answered here :)

[@alexanderMikh]

That's a pretty good video, I have an asteroid belt in obsidian and notion, and now I learned to make peace with it too.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Making peace with the asteroid belt is a great way to stop wasting time doing unnecessary work :)

[@wilnaudesign]

Loved the theoretical approach. Made the concept more interesting and easy to understand.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Glad it resonated :)

[@u_j3nji35j4]

This video really help me! Thank you!

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Glad it helped!

[@Earl_E_Burd]

Great video. Part 2 is up next. Thank you.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks for the feedback :)

[@nomadka]

Thanks for the video! I'm surprised how many things we think of in a similar way (e.g. uses for pages vs. journal blocks). I'm glad I got a bit of reassurance in the way I use LogSeq. I tend to forget there is no right and wrong way to use it, just best possible way for one's needs.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

It can be a little bit disconcerting, this idea of "there's no right way". But I'm glad that you feel re-assured!

[@StefanHallEffect]

Outstanding video. Thank you. This is exactly what I needed to see to help me get started organizing my thoughts with Logseq

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Glad it could help 👍🏽

[@560crude2]

Give this guy an *applause* ...

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks :)

[@davidgoggin7921]

I found the discussion of pages vs journal entries very helpful! I've been struggling to get a coherent approach to my own data entries. Your structure is very practical. Thx!

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks for the feedback, David. I'm glad it was helpful :)

[@arielvenzano4590]

Thanks! This has been very useful to me 🙂

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Glad to hear :)

[@Mapotoufured]

Many thanks for this useful video! I have been recently trying to find a balance between journals and pages. Watching this video helps me decide what to do in the future. Appreciate the work!

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks Alex, I appreciate the feedback!

[@woodenshoes2]

I really appreciate your putting this together! I am using Workflowy and finding a little too much friction and you have made a very good case for Logseq. I will continue to watch your additional videos and thank you again for your time!

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks Alex, best of luck 🙂

[@pietervheerden]

Good stuff. I like the approach you're taking in this video. Understanding how to approach note taking in tools such as this before diving in head first, feels like a better way to go about things than just starting to add loads of information and having to sort out the mess later. While it's likely that one's approach would change over time as you learn, starting off with the right mindset sounds like a good way to go. I'm so used to rigid folder structures that getting into the mindset of not having that is proving challenging. I've only recently started playing with these types of tools, and recently started to use Obsidian but it's so easy to start reverting back to creating folders... Logseq seems like a very useful way to go too and I've seen references to people using the two in conjunction, with more permanent notes managed in Obsidian - not sure how that would work though.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

I think part of my thinking around this is that "everything is recoverable" i.e. if I make mistake, the cost of fixing it is not massive. I think it's similar with a lot of database approaches - as long as the information is in there, you can tweak it later (although I'm not too experienced with more complex databases). In the next video I plan to speak around content 'hubs', because although rigid hierarchy can be a bit stifling, having absolutely no hierarchy can lead to chaos - everything is a bit of a tradeoff :/ I had a look at Obsidian, but it didn't click for me (although granted, that was a few months ago now). I'm sure guys like Santi Younger will release some videos in the future on integrating the workflows. I still have a lot to learn on the 'publishing' front, and I think that is where Obsidian might make a lot of sense, although I am speaking from a place of ignorance :)

[@biholl8002]

@PietervanHeerden : Yeah man that "right folder structure" has been a limiting factor for me too - it just feels unnatural for my brain sometimes or what I envision or how my brain thinks. Curious if you come across any other methods, concepts, or perspectives. For now I'm using Joplin (cloud), and Syncthing (+100 🙂) for local file/folders... as far as "relational databases" &/or alternate folder hierarchy methods...: On deck: Mindforger, Hypernomicon, and perhaps Athens Research (just read about it yesterday...) seem like some different angles definitely worth considering. Also karl-voit (worth checking out IMHO) has some brilliant ideas (ie on tagging and file naming conventions- that was a game changer!!!) (and simple to implement after a couple hours at most watching (part of(?]) his 30 min lecture and reading his blog post with his arguments, specification(s), philosophy, reasoning, etc.), *(pardon my grammar/punctuation on this mobile device is lacking!)* philosophies, arguments (ie for or against certain methodologies, applications... i.e.: he prefers emacs org-mode for his knowledge base if I'm not mistaken (and a fantastic and convincing case for emacs org- mode he made!), tutorials, etc. Also Zotero, has cross- platform development, plug-ins, etc... if that fits somewhere in your use case (Docear also seems considerable... for its functionality). I foresee logseq and Athens research deserving my full attention, and Mindforger & Hypernomicon both will be considered, compared, explored, differentiated... ideally Anki folded in the mix when I can figure that out/cross that path/ find a compatible plug-in. After that (if not simultaneously): Vim (maybe irrelevant here), though after trying i see the benefit is MEGA worth it, and emacs org- mode. ~~~ For "research" (database pdf annotation management) i use Zotero (and working on Docear... which zotero might cover what I need now, it'sdevelopment and plug-in community progressed since last I checked like a year ago), calibre, freeplane (has some features worth considering),... all FOSS Memex, too (where I heard about logseq)... keeping an eye on them. For webpage annotation, archiving, bookmarking,... they seem to be actively developed. For now I use: (Little more involved / for my skills): Archivebox and wkhtmltopdf (all foss, I think). For archiving pages. Pandoc. And (closed source, I use them...): - "inforapid knowledgebase builder" has been around, learning curve is to be expected and worthwhile evidently; haven't had the time to fully invest in learning it. Has some rad features though! - Mimind- the dev is awesome, super quick to respond, friendly, like emailed me 1 year after our initial correspondence to inform me that Mac software was out... very personable dude! ) The app functionality is great on Android- haven't invested in Mac (yet!) (because I was using Simplemind 🙄😪, though, they've changed/ removed too many FOSS- friendly features too many times for me ... destroyed my entire cross- platform workflow multiple times🤕😵😱😠😡... so I'm switching to Mimind probably. (FOSS?) Piggydb and Cotoami were cool finds... conceptually. Oh yeah and lastly Zen-Tools is a brilliant website (and the author is rad and very friendly and responsive too)... mostly "cognitive science"- related or Meta-"well-being" for lack of better terms. "Personal Change Management" I think is the verbiage he uses on occasion. Very practical (as opposed to just theoretical), refined, thoughtful, open-minded, etc... reminds me of a human-"Jedi"~

[@pietervheerden]

@@biholl8002 Good stuff - you mention lots of interesting goodies I'll have to go and check out. What help me a lot with files is having file names with lots of info / key words, the using Everything from Voidtools on Windows to almost instantaneously find files on my machine and shares (Windows). Unfortunately that easily leads to a mindset of being even less organized than usual by saving files all over the show... :) [edit] oh yeah... and another +100 👍for Syncthing from me.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

@@biholl8002 thanks for the recommendation to check out Karl Voit - will definitely look into this re. tagging and file naming conventions!

[@urkhigh]

Very helpful video. No wonder official logseq team has his video on the website.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks Yuki :)

[@StevenTCramer]

The theory is useful to me. Thanks.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks Steven :)

[@burpsan]

Late to this video ... excellent!

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks!

[@aditsharda8295]

This was really helpful. It also adds to my reasons for why Logseq could be a better way to do PKM than Obsidian and Notion, both of which I spent considerable times on. Great job with the workflow..

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks for the feedback Adit 🙂

[@YannSchmidt]

Totally. What I do not like about obsidian is you actually have control over the hierarchy of files itself inside the obsidian folder (called vault) when in Logseq, you cannot change that yourself from the software. It was so distracting so i'm glad I change to use Logseq instead.

[@dennism665]

I am a bit late to the show, but, great job and thanks. 👍👍I was struggling a bit prior to your video.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks Dennis - I think you're probably still early to the Logseq show, still taking off :)

[@beanbit6674]

That‘s a great video!! thx a lot

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Glad you liked it 🙂

[@ydherdn]

Thank You

[@AltcoinAli]

Great video as i learn about logseq and obsidian. Have never found an app that offers enough hierarchy and easy drag and drop features. Really wondering if this way of organizing my life is the way to go. On to part 2. Many thanks. 🙂

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Holding thumbs for you 👍🏽🙂

[@ArnieStein]

Excellent video and thank you.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks Arnie :)

[@chiaochenghuang]

Great video! Could you help also share what "on-screen drawing" you used in this video (starting from 4:36)? Thank you.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks Ethan. I used Openboard for this video, but I've now settled on using LiveDraw which has a great interface :)

[@yijiang9023]

认真看完了视频，很有收获，谢谢

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

太感谢了。

[@creative-jammers]

Great! Subscribee! How does it go with obsidian? or do you have any comparison between these two software?

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks Fred :) Fellow KZbinr Santi Younger has done a cool video looking at the two here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaHRk4aNqcSgna8 There's also this super cool (silent) video from Betty Zhang kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWWko6doea5siaM

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Oh, and another by Tools on Tech kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZ_bdXuFaLpllZo Hope these help :)

[@TheMerchant96]

This was great! I'm currently using Notion but was looking for something open source to build my personal knowledge management system. I like your approach and will be following your journey. Keep up the good work on these videos. BTW, are you South African?

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks Imraan :) Indeed I am, seems that everyone can hear us a mile away :P

[@amyoungil]

Hi - thanks for making this. I was looking for the "proper" way to create a new page. It's a whole new topic, so searching isn't appropriate. But search for me takes about 20 seconds and then it capitulates and finally actually proposes making a new page. Seems clunky. Is that the correct behavior?

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks for the feedback 🙂 That doesn't sound like the correct behaviour at all. It might be worthwhile re-indexing your database (Unfortunately that is the same as me saying "switch it off and on again" because I don't really know 🤔)

[@NamasenITN]

Thank you. It is very very useful. If I may, what is your professional life about? Are you in academia, industry, IT,...?

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks NamasenITN. Professional life is currently focused on operations & strategy for a tertiary education NGO :)

[@SheldonHull]

I really like my first take at logseq. I think the only thing that confused me/adoption barrier was I couldn't find a way to set the front matter for an exported markdown file and the markdown it generated wasn't bullet points, but all headers. This prevents me from using any of it to create some outlines of posts, as no text content, only h2-h5 seemed to be generated. Any plans on markdown export improvements or should I open an issue on the github repo?

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Hmm, this is definitely beyond my current comfort level but I'll hazard an answer :) The new Canary version of Logseq takes the second part into account - it converts markdown headings to unordered lists (i.e. # -> -) I haven't used it myself, and I'm not sure what the ramifications are if using H1 - H6 in another application :/ As for exporting the front matter, that I'm really not sure of :)

[@johnl1160]

A beginner here. Confused about whether I need to start my dadtbase in the browser from loseq's site or should I start by booting up the desktop application?

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Hey John. You can do either, as long as they point to the same folder are your computer :) I started from the browser, and then eventually started downloading the Desktop apps

[@johnl1160]

@OneStutteringMind Pls ignore above, figured it out. Thanks for your helpful content.

[@KikePinto]

Hi. I read about this app, but I can't find tutorials on how to get started with it. It seems all videos assume users already know Roam, Obsidian or other similar apps and already know how to create links, embed KZbin videos and so on. I know nothing. How can I learn how to use LogSeq?

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Hi Arturo. I think the best approach is to start in the journal and start writing down your thoughts with tags. It's a little bit different to other systems where you start with a folder, but as long as things are in your journal, they will be stored in whichever folder you choose on your PC. I'm hoping to go a little bit into that in the next video :)

[@kurodesuuuu]

15:22 This was very helpful. Thanks! (I keep on adding stuff randomly & face trouble finding it LOL) What do you think is the best way to record fleeting thoughts or insights when on mobile? (especially for small articles, podcasts, YT videos). I am currently just adding them in my Microsoft To do 'Inbox' folder & think I'll process them later (which never comes lol). I tried logseq on mobile, but I kept encountering sync issues, lagging, etc

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

I haven't actually used the mobile application (I'm assuming you're using Obsidian's app 🤔?) I usually just add the #Fleeting for insights that I want to return to later, and if it comes from a specific source I will use #Observations underneath a properties block where I can input the metadata (I call this template 'crumbs' will feature in my next Queries video 🙂)

[@kurodesuuuu]

@@CombiningMindsPKM by Logseq on Mobile, I meant just using the website Logseq. com (& syncing with git)- laggy as hell On the other hand, using the obsidian app is quite smooth (although there are formatting issues) #observations under a properties block sounds clever! If I got you correctly, you basically press 'enter'/ indent it under the block , right?

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

@@kurodesuuuu Exactly that - enter and tab :) I honestly didn't know that you could use logseq.com on mobile. I think many people are going to rejoice when the app is released :)

[@threepe0]

Hmm.... new user here. Excited and committed to learn logseq, but I have to say the start is a bit rocky. This video is about a year old, and my view that I'm seeing now is completely different. For example, there's no top right->view graph option that brings anything up that looks like what you're showing here. I'm sure things will come together as I learn, but as a new user, having documentation videos that don't line up with what a new user will be experiencing can be confusing. I do understand that creating videos to keep up with the pace of development is pretty much impossible though. That being said, I wonder if there's an approach that might work that remains vague and high-level enough that it would help beginners out while surviving a few releases.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Hey. I realise that there's a lot of differences, but my main focus has been on developing a course since Logseq went into beta, rather than re-doing videos like this. I may do a few more introductory videos at some point, but if you're looking for a structured approach I would recommend the course rather than YT tutorials.

[@Farrukhw]

I'm an Obsidian user. And I was looking for "Create a New Note" in LogSeq, but found it more complex. What's wrong in giving an option to Create a New Note and Create a New Graph, as a gesture of "Simplicity"?

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Ctrl / Cmd + K is the way to go :) Or the little plus at the bottom left of the screen. But agree, it could be easier for new users.

[@GeniusUnleashed]

I watched all your videos and made pages and pages of notes and opened the app today and they were all gone. not all my notes, just literally everything I created while watching your videos. And not even entire pages, just parts of the pages that were notes from your videos. I mean, it's seriously creepy as hell how literally just those portions got deleted and nothing else. Any idea what happened?

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

That is very strange. My immediate thought is that this must be do to some plugin, but I'm really not sure.

[@GeniusUnleashed]

@@CombiningMindsPKM It randomly created a second logseq folder and it was hidden in there with 20 other notes. Very weird. I'm pretty sure iCloud is the culprit.

[@bruce122046]

You might start by creating your video with a decent sized font with less unused white space. Some of your viewers are visually impaired.

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Thanks for the feedback Bruce.

[@hexchad765]

Top down: "So organized that you can't find anything"

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Brain 6 months later does not remember what brain 6 months older did...

[@peterschmidt7559]

Hm. A "how to get started" video, without starting from the start. I am missing things like installation, password, device compatibility, data storage,...

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Have a look at this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKWthoFjgZyeidU Device compatability: Mac, Windows, Linx, iOS and Android. No passwords necessary.

[@sylv1corre]

Very helpful indeed ! Thank you very much !

[@CombiningMindsPKM]

Glad to hear :)