How To Get To The Super Bowl Of eSports (HBO)

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@alphabetaepsilon9848
@alphabetaepsilon9848 7 жыл бұрын
If you people honestly believe dota is easy I encourage you to compete and win millions of dollars. Its easy right go do it nothing is stopping you. Easiest money you'll ever earn. Unless you're all talk no show.
@amirkyrn3260
@amirkyrn3260 7 жыл бұрын
AlphaBetaEpsilon they will do nothing, they will do nothing - McGregor
@AndalusianLuis
@AndalusianLuis 7 жыл бұрын
It's not as hard as they make it sounds in this video, that being said most people are retarded that's why they will never be able to master the game. I've seen players with 2-3k hours on it that will do retarded shit like not buy boots until 50 minutes or buy completely useless items.
@imnotwhitebutimwhite
@imnotwhitebutimwhite 7 жыл бұрын
try being 2K at SEA
@patrickpakpahan
@patrickpakpahan 7 жыл бұрын
yall about to playing dota i said stop, theres no going back It will eat your life, entirely
@mizchief7305
@mizchief7305 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah just play LOL guys. We already have a toxic community here, especially in SEA and special mention to the russians
@crafty_prop
@crafty_prop 7 жыл бұрын
Clocked in 7000++ hours in Dota 2 but still a 4k scrub.
@IZRAIL99
@IZRAIL99 5 жыл бұрын
I can relate
@kaonashi8106
@kaonashi8106 4 жыл бұрын
1k++ here still 3k.
@UCjNrKLyRJI-abFA8qiNo92Q
@UCjNrKLyRJI-abFA8qiNo92Q 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know what the super Bowl is, but this International was amazing
@jqa16
@jqa16 7 жыл бұрын
American Football almost 1.2 Billion revenue each year
@cherubling
@cherubling 7 жыл бұрын
Classic dota player
@kovidomi
@kovidomi 7 жыл бұрын
Outside of murica no one gives any crap about this "super bowl" thing
@ghettoham1223
@ghettoham1223 7 жыл бұрын
It is where people compete to eat cereal off a very large bowl as fast as they can. Trust me on this.
@Akkuzi
@Akkuzi 6 жыл бұрын
Seems legit
@zipiaro
@zipiaro 7 жыл бұрын
"this is life" you get em, sunsfan
@sansarshrestha6285
@sansarshrestha6285 6 жыл бұрын
Sunsfan speaking the Divine truth.
@Spok2go
@Spok2go 7 жыл бұрын
If you haven't played Dota 2 for at least 500 hours, you know nothing about this game. It is the most challenging competitive game in its genre. The grand tournament winners have played this game for at least 10 years, and most of them have easily at least 15000 hours spent in this game.
@illustris.
@illustris. 7 жыл бұрын
Not really 500 hours. I mean, just a hundred and you'll figure that out. Unless you're really new to the MOBA scene where you don't even know how to move.
@housem.d7673
@housem.d7673 7 жыл бұрын
there are 112 heroes in the game and you just need less than one hour games to figure out each heroes? hmm.
@g0tst1ngs
@g0tst1ngs 7 жыл бұрын
Vishakh Kannan this exactly^ and don't try to say some bullshit like if you learn one hero you'll learn a cluster of them because that is not how it works
@rcortez5979
@rcortez5979 5 жыл бұрын
All I can say is when a person that has no idea starts to play dota 2 cuz he was interested. It could take a year for him to realize all the bullshit and things to win games with thousands of strategies. Dota 2 is the hardest game ever created same goes for dota 1 the original GOD
@vperkv6554
@vperkv6554 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like fun, SAID NO ONE EVER
@SuperPoonSlayer
@SuperPoonSlayer 7 жыл бұрын
dota is love, dota is life.
@waterdroplets1627
@waterdroplets1627 5 жыл бұрын
And it has been killing me softly
@xoxo94
@xoxo94 4 жыл бұрын
Kappa
@gazzgaspay4841
@gazzgaspay4841 5 жыл бұрын
Todays TI is at $29M and counting. Crazy how dota become is. From Wacraft map mod to this.
@jagaaan262
@jagaaan262 5 жыл бұрын
30 mil*
@mangodoto
@mangodoto 5 жыл бұрын
32.4 mil btw and og won twice
@CharDhue
@CharDhue 5 жыл бұрын
@Constantine lehara yea eul should, but not guinsho and pendragon
@rafaelmaleakhilumbanbatu9873
@rafaelmaleakhilumbanbatu9873 4 жыл бұрын
buriza do kyanon
@joekerr5418
@joekerr5418 3 жыл бұрын
Nah bro, the entire MOBA genre is what that Warcraft map mod had become. That doesn't amount to just $29M
@zerppiss
@zerppiss 7 жыл бұрын
Should´ve been SingSongPingPong explaining dotka zwei.
@andrevarian3744
@andrevarian3744 7 жыл бұрын
"i need black up!". singsongpingpong -2017
@saberpendragon271
@saberpendragon271 7 жыл бұрын
"Hello???? Hello???? Teeeeaaaaam????" - mastursongsong2017
@AeroMedic
@AeroMedic 7 жыл бұрын
I walked by this interview, and was like 'damn this dudes hair is cool' had no idea it was Vice.
@francofx
@francofx 7 жыл бұрын
After almost 10 years we are finally getting attention from the media. That's very good. Thanks VICE
@SquatEveryday
@SquatEveryday 7 жыл бұрын
If curling can be in the olympics, esports definitely can
@nomanchaudhry8727
@nomanchaudhry8727 7 жыл бұрын
blkmrktgamer11 there's already discussion within the Olympic Council about this, the only issue is which gay
@douglasballantine2712
@douglasballantine2712 7 жыл бұрын
Yea Esports should stay out of the Olympics.
@slumberstudio4757
@slumberstudio4757 7 жыл бұрын
esport is already big on it's own, why bother putting it into olimpic
@trix-884
@trix-884 7 жыл бұрын
and what about E-Olympics?? :DDDDDDDDDDDD
@FP19487
@FP19487 7 жыл бұрын
Please don't. I don't want to hear old farts bitching.
@TheVermilion99
@TheVermilion99 7 жыл бұрын
The dislikes must be coming from LoL players XD
@SearvantOfficial
@SearvantOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
4:10 Thanks Purge Seemsgood
@neapanther497
@neapanther497 5 жыл бұрын
The interviewer looks like fresh from subway surfers
@makeitrain280
@makeitrain280 7 жыл бұрын
There's no way i could learn this if im still struggling on seige
@ganeshswamy7420
@ganeshswamy7420 7 жыл бұрын
I play both
@ganeshswamy7420
@ganeshswamy7420 7 жыл бұрын
Siege is easy
@Andreas-eh3sn
@Andreas-eh3sn 7 жыл бұрын
professor weedington Video games it's all about mindset honestly
@ericnick4498
@ericnick4498 6 жыл бұрын
professor weedington Get into Seige then and go for pro.
@Anti_Mage
@Anti_Mage 7 жыл бұрын
The greatest video game known to man-kind.
@jqa16
@jqa16 7 жыл бұрын
Anti Mage nigga buy linkens
@vperkv6554
@vperkv6554 5 жыл бұрын
Ummm no, not even close, GEARS OF WAR 1. THT WAS A GAME CHANGER
@emceeb5289
@emceeb5289 3 жыл бұрын
@@jqa16 How about a dagger?
@Alpenmagier
@Alpenmagier 7 жыл бұрын
he looks like that black kid from hey arnold haha
@zyan554
@zyan554 7 жыл бұрын
damn exactly my thought!
@francisjohnoca5710
@francisjohnoca5710 6 жыл бұрын
fabian vogel dude wtf.
@FrankQC100
@FrankQC100 7 жыл бұрын
Good job Sunsfan!
@deitylink1
@deitylink1 7 жыл бұрын
I like how that video just... cut out randomly at the end
@raegune
@raegune 7 жыл бұрын
DotA is somewhat like chess as far as how much effort/time is required to pick up and subsequently master the game. Learning the basics for either isn't dead simple, but it isn't out of this world hard either. Really learning the intricacies requires a huge amount of study and practice. Then, even if you do that, you'll be up against other people who have done the same, so the game remains incredibly difficult. Those who play at such an advanced level are just playing it in a whole different way from those who haven't put the same amount of time and effort into it.
@INCNetski
@INCNetski 2 жыл бұрын
I would pay good money for a book about Dota
@S3SSioN_Solaris
@S3SSioN_Solaris 7 жыл бұрын
Sunsfan my boi, making us proud!
@9cowbell9
@9cowbell9 7 жыл бұрын
I am glad my brother introduced me to DOTA 1. Haven't looked back ever since. May not have much time to play the game these days (played 1514 hours) but will always be passionate about it.
@obiwanshinobi9368
@obiwanshinobi9368 5 жыл бұрын
Who watched this after ti9?? Anyone?
@tkvankaam
@tkvankaam 5 жыл бұрын
This reporter is way better than that Matt Shea guy you had earier. This one actually tries to understand what is going on instead of trying to hit on the ladies.
@frankbai4694
@frankbai4694 6 жыл бұрын
Well I talked shit about VICE how they treated esports before, now I'm really glade they made some effort to actually introduce to people what the game is and why it is hard but so addictive. Nice job on this one
@SeleNazzy
@SeleNazzy 7 жыл бұрын
Most simple way to explain it, is imagine Dota as a pendulum, and teams need to acquire enough momentum to push the ball to the other side which kills enemy base. You gain momentum from better drafting, from farming more, from taking objectives(towers, rax, shrines). But you can also lose that momentum and the ball can start swinging back
@Yaneriaf
@Yaneriaf 7 жыл бұрын
This does not make it simpler at all. Terms like drafting, farming, taking objectives mean nothing to the average viewer of Vice
@Gimpyjoe
@Gimpyjoe 7 жыл бұрын
lmao, they got sunsfan'd
@Gelfling66
@Gelfling66 7 жыл бұрын
Lmao sunsfan is NOT the person to go to when first learning the game, he was just the first guy available for these guys.
@nomanchaudhry8727
@nomanchaudhry8727 7 жыл бұрын
Gelfling66 well he does do the hero spotlights
@shubhradeepgangopadhyay8154
@shubhradeepgangopadhyay8154 7 жыл бұрын
Not only he was one of the people to start noob stream ,he literally requested Lord Gaben again and again and brought back the noob stream as newcommer stream in TI7 ! If he is not the guy ,then i don't know who is!
@noxturn8620
@noxturn8620 7 жыл бұрын
sunsfan hero spotlights made me play dota
@laksoysoy
@laksoysoy 6 жыл бұрын
bro I wanna learn this whos channel should I watch
@youcefaz2945
@youcefaz2945 6 жыл бұрын
koy purge is the best for newcomers ;)
@saymatattooremovalchannel9264
@saymatattooremovalchannel9264 7 жыл бұрын
From WoW to Dotaaaaaaaaaa ❤️
@ryanross6884
@ryanross6884 7 жыл бұрын
what
@stoptakingusernamepls6381
@stoptakingusernamepls6381 7 жыл бұрын
This game fucked up my social life
@jorgeparra8745
@jorgeparra8745 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to see the passion of the teams as they come in playing
@tkzsfen
@tkzsfen 7 жыл бұрын
the thing about DOTA is that you can live your normal life as an adult and just as you load the first game age is reversed and you become an angry 12 year old with passion for killing!
@Kuba-qw5io
@Kuba-qw5io 7 жыл бұрын
I don't care about all haters above and beyond. It's good video and easy to watch (for an expert in Dota 2) but ending was disappointing. Please say few words at the end to summarize Your video.
@nomanchaudhry8727
@nomanchaudhry8727 7 жыл бұрын
Jakub Sasko also we could have used more Purge, best way to introduce people to DotA
@arbinshrestha
@arbinshrestha 7 жыл бұрын
yea i was like getting really hyped up................but then it just fucking ended..........most dissapointing video ever.........could've added a bit more
@lloydchristmas3637
@lloydchristmas3637 5 жыл бұрын
Vice is operated by leftist bigots.
@heartmint7364
@heartmint7364 2 жыл бұрын
The International in Esport is more like FIFA world cup honestly. Dota have player base all over the world and not just one region.
@markgtown1
@markgtown1 7 жыл бұрын
this vice dude lookin like that guy from hey arnold
@Gabzilla19
@Gabzilla19 7 жыл бұрын
everyone is hating on dota 2 and esports. but here's the thing, it has a fuckton of cash involved in it so people are going to get into it. thats life get over it
@tiltMOD
@tiltMOD 7 жыл бұрын
It's funny to read people's comments raging "eSports are not sports". At times I've seen Dota matches being more competitive and intense than a football match. I doesn't have to be physical so you can call it a sport.
@frasstvhs6141
@frasstvhs6141 6 жыл бұрын
sports mind no Real sports
@fktyt2898
@fktyt2898 5 жыл бұрын
0:26 "...world's most annoyingly complex video game." sure, vice. sure. $32M TI9 EZ LAKAD MATATAG GG BABY
@Drunkmers
@Drunkmers 7 жыл бұрын
TriHard cmonBruh
@Exstas1
@Exstas1 7 жыл бұрын
Drunkmers we coo? cmonBruh
@GotChaDotA
@GotChaDotA 7 жыл бұрын
Drunkmers we coo? cmonBruh
@jqa16
@jqa16 7 жыл бұрын
Men posted on my birthday and i'm a fucking dota player poured 8k hours in dota 6k mmr just unbelievable how is this game so recognized.
@andre9853
@andre9853 7 жыл бұрын
I know how to play dota but i can't join local tournaments how much more internationals?
@othelo989
@othelo989 7 жыл бұрын
Dota is Super Chess Mixed with Rock Paper Scissors, with quick in the moment responses and Over all Strategy
@jq6641
@jq6641 7 жыл бұрын
The vice news guy no need a hat to become a Queens Gaurd, I still can't stop laughing
@matyankuat
@matyankuat 7 жыл бұрын
dota is life.. my favorite team just won 10 millions dollar a few days ago...so still in happy mode right now..yeah!..
@timothyahkoy8202
@timothyahkoy8202 7 жыл бұрын
2:51 spoken like a true Asian.
@wolt911
@wolt911 7 жыл бұрын
Old people who hate esports just know that these dudes are working harder than traditional athletes clocking in 10-14 hours of practice DAILY whilst under extreme pressure from coaches and their orgs. So with the amount of time these guys are putting in don't just go shutting it down saying it's not real thanks
@philippmaqs8799
@philippmaqs8799 7 жыл бұрын
we'll replace them in 30 yrs+ though, I wonder what we will hate then being old at that time.lol
@frasstvhs6141
@frasstvhs6141 6 жыл бұрын
You are an idiot
@siamhussain994
@siamhussain994 6 жыл бұрын
Purge probably would've been the best to describe Dota to you
@leonardofontolan4827
@leonardofontolan4827 6 жыл бұрын
Ok guys so today i'm gonna show you how to throw away you're life playing a fucking game
@TheJanvicgwaps
@TheJanvicgwaps 7 жыл бұрын
Purge is the guy to go to if you want to learn DOTA hahaha..
@KevinAvila7
@KevinAvila7 7 жыл бұрын
Thx god for this amazing bless call dota aka LOL’s daddy
@williamvargas2981
@williamvargas2981 7 жыл бұрын
SeemsGood
@arbinshrestha
@arbinshrestha 7 жыл бұрын
agreed
@FighterTCat
@FighterTCat 7 жыл бұрын
Kevin Avila ur player base is shrinking though :/
@OriginalPuro
@OriginalPuro 6 жыл бұрын
thx god? That's lucasArts, they developed thx. You probably mean to thank Valve and Icefrog.:D
@guilhermemedeiros2151
@guilhermemedeiros2151 7 жыл бұрын
4:12 is a "Thanks Purge" time, if y'all seen purge explaining in any of the TI matches it would've been much easier to understand the game.
@einsleyharriot1294
@einsleyharriot1294 5 жыл бұрын
LOL will never achieve this kind of greatness.
@danieltroydelpasen1412
@danieltroydelpasen1412 11 ай бұрын
Miss these lineup.
@eternaldeagold8280
@eternaldeagold8280 7 жыл бұрын
How did a Pay to Win game get to the pro scene
@superpantman
@superpantman 7 жыл бұрын
Pppffft DotA! You want something really complex, try Minecraft
@tryomama
@tryomama 5 жыл бұрын
pppfffft Minecraft? try build something that can work perfectly in Lego 3D DESIGN
@xuganyu96
@xuganyu96 5 жыл бұрын
Try minesweeper
@alpha_ray_burst
@alpha_ray_burst 7 жыл бұрын
Well said Sunsfan!
@casiowr50
@casiowr50 7 жыл бұрын
Dota is love, dota is life
@fufu1405
@fufu1405 7 жыл бұрын
It doesn't take thousands of hours to learn dotas rules... It just takes thousands of hours to master the game
@stefansanityy
@stefansanityy 3 жыл бұрын
The current TI, The International 10, has a 40M$ prize pool. Was supposed to happen in 2020 will probably happen this 2021. 4,300+ hours and just got into Divine Rank. -_-
@Yoonalayciangelo
@Yoonalayciangelo 2 жыл бұрын
I guess, you start from dota 2 ? I clocked in like 2k hrs and I'm also in divine rank.
@bristleback1759
@bristleback1759 2 жыл бұрын
Dota is like life where one mistake can screw your whole game
@ajaysinghthakur7729
@ajaysinghthakur7729 4 жыл бұрын
this year prize pool went to 40 million dollars
@UCjNrKLyRJI-abFA8qiNo92Q
@UCjNrKLyRJI-abFA8qiNo92Q 7 жыл бұрын
LMAO Gerald Johansen from Hey, Arnold.
@bgtheking4083
@bgtheking4083 7 жыл бұрын
The people that said dota is not complex .. You know nothing.
@strongindependentblackwoma1887
@strongindependentblackwoma1887 6 жыл бұрын
has been a year....and dota 2 patches are getting worst and worst = less ppl playing just like me.
@jagaaan262
@jagaaan262 5 жыл бұрын
Ti9 prize pool is over 30 mil. Since youre a former player of DOTA2. You should know where that money comes from.
@cyliemyrus
@cyliemyrus 7 жыл бұрын
Dude is trying to make the game sound more complicated than it is.
@TOKICHI.MIKUNI
@TOKICHI.MIKUNI 7 жыл бұрын
Where are you all this time ? Seriously y'all just now get realized how big the community is ?
@TenzinPhelps
@TenzinPhelps 7 жыл бұрын
5minute is not enough at all. You should have talked about The Internationals , documentary film made by valve. That way, people would learn more about dota2
@KarlEmilWiklund
@KarlEmilWiklund 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting up eSport content. You guys should check out CS:GO!
@sirbuzzamss4772
@sirbuzzamss4772 7 жыл бұрын
yOure wElcome! hOpe yOu eNjoyed tHe vIdeo.
@Shinfomatic
@Shinfomatic 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@videogamekings97
@videogamekings97 7 жыл бұрын
Emil Wiklund CSGO is some ass. Gotta play the game valve cares about
@ghettoham1223
@ghettoham1223 7 жыл бұрын
No.
@tsfcancerman
@tsfcancerman 7 жыл бұрын
2000 hours aint much, i had over 6000 hours just on one game and on one name on one account on origin in old bf2142, then over 2400 on the second name, and so on up to 12 names/3 bf2142's with 4 names on each account all unlocked every rank and weapons. So to become world elite in 2000 hours is very good, but 2000 hours aint much playing each day, when i played bf2142 back in the days i used min 8 hours each day on the game for many years.
@NissoXbox
@NissoXbox 7 жыл бұрын
You must be fun at parties
@tekkenfan01
@tekkenfan01 5 жыл бұрын
I m convinced, I must quit my job to devote to dota
@mathewlombard1056
@mathewlombard1056 7 жыл бұрын
That dudes fro is higher than me
@adambelike2346
@adambelike2346 7 жыл бұрын
New to the scene and want to learn about Dota, so you talk to SunsFan? 4head
@stubb1qaz
@stubb1qaz 5 жыл бұрын
How do you know who to talk to if you are new to Dota? Gaben? :D
@rm9308
@rm9308 5 жыл бұрын
SUNSfan isn't really promoting the spectacle though. It's really easy to watch DotA since its shoutcasters are hyped more than other sports, it's pretty to look at, and after you get a sense of the map flow and creeps you can follow the match pretty easily.
@mackenentertainment
@mackenentertainment 7 жыл бұрын
Does anybody know the artist & title of the music that starts playing @ around 3:50 till the end of the clip?
@oovoojaver179
@oovoojaver179 6 жыл бұрын
Lmao who’s name is boboka i’d like to meet that genius
@chokra6968
@chokra6968 7 жыл бұрын
dota is life
@miroa1615
@miroa1615 4 жыл бұрын
D2 shows ur personality who u r leader or follower hunter or victim it will destroy u or make u strong
@fearofgod3947
@fearofgod3947 4 жыл бұрын
e-sprot is not a sport is like chess
@MegaShrut
@MegaShrut 7 жыл бұрын
The prize pool is 23 million now
@maggotcorps
@maggotcorps 7 жыл бұрын
@Vice Why do you keep sending these journalist with no experience on the esports side of things?
@grana2dylan
@grana2dylan 7 жыл бұрын
His high top fade gets higher in every video
@SilverwindAYA
@SilverwindAYA 7 жыл бұрын
The salty in here is so strong.. lul
@junaidsurti113
@junaidsurti113 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man should have asked people their ranks aswell.
@zhixci958
@zhixci958 4 жыл бұрын
"This isn't a game bro, this is life." It might sound ridiculous but it's true. You could have played hundreds even thousands of hours and you'll still be learning the game, not to mention the huge learning curve if you're starting. The thing with dota is it constantly evolves and meta shifts completely every year and there are times where it shifts just after a few months or after a major which makes people who play it say its a different game after a massive patch. Which is true because if you look at dota in 2013 compared to now it would seem like a different MOBA. The meta shifts aren't small either, it can be big enough that it can destroy the strengths of a team and make them irrelevant. Which is the main reason why the international has never seen a 2 time champion (even just a single player) until TI9(2019).
@hakkan18a
@hakkan18a 7 жыл бұрын
Ma boi SUNSfan SeemsGood
@user-nr3nq3ns8j
@user-nr3nq3ns8j 7 жыл бұрын
dota is not hard to learn, but you need good reflexes all the time throughout the game, same with awareness, and that makes it hard.
@dantheman4421
@dantheman4421 7 жыл бұрын
As someone who's played over 30,000 hours of dota, played since it first came out as a custom map in Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne expansion pack, I'll be hoping to make it to world championship level one day. I'm def a pro already, but not at THAT level. Turn on the basshunter, and get some K/D/A!
@ps3adik
@ps3adik 6 жыл бұрын
i felt proud of myself, after the guy said dota is the most complicated video game.
@MrWizardjr9
@MrWizardjr9 7 жыл бұрын
"most people never achieve basic understanding" yep that was me I never figured out how to get items out of the donkey. and i paid for dota 2 also
@jdoe3006
@jdoe3006 7 жыл бұрын
dota is probably the most complex game you could ever play based on my experience, even if you are so good at dota you still learn something new in every game and dota is dynamic with new patches in like every month thats why nobody can be perfect in the game.
@Psyb3rLoL
@Psyb3rLoL 7 жыл бұрын
far better than league in every single way
@zem0ku605
@zem0ku605 7 жыл бұрын
That guy who took a selfie with Sunsfan was wearing an Optic Gaming hoodie. I think he thought it was OG. Correct me if I'm wrong
@andrevarian3744
@andrevarian3744 7 жыл бұрын
shud get TobiWan as your source tho , hes really good at explaining DoTA
@joshuamcdonald5850
@joshuamcdonald5850 7 жыл бұрын
"this is my first experience with dota" goddammit, journalists are meant to do their homework. what is this shit.
@iTzSpartan
@iTzSpartan 7 жыл бұрын
The ads are getting longer and longer
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 7 жыл бұрын
I would hate to sit behind dexter because I wouldn't be able to see anything over his Marge Simpson hairdue.
@Ajryan13gaming
@Ajryan13gaming 6 жыл бұрын
This sounds like domination from cod just on another level
@milanmiki98
@milanmiki98 7 жыл бұрын
Esports or esports, NEVER eSports...
@jaredwhite7285
@jaredwhite7285 6 жыл бұрын
24 million for the year shown... literally more than doublw qhat you said.
@ThanosOfLight
@ThanosOfLight 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't that the total cashprize for the event ? The winners don't go away with 24 mil
@vaibhavdabwalv1
@vaibhavdabwalv1 5 жыл бұрын
If you think that eSports isn't a real deal you should see the difference between shroud and average streamer. Since skill isn't that apparent in RTS and MOBA unless you play against him or know what's going on
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