How to go 8s with a 4.6 2v

[@wbboy123]

Building a Vortech SC 4.6 2V for my '96 GT right now, this is the third 2V I've seen running sub-10s and neither of the others were really that over the top either, I just always gotta say it's such a huge inspiration to me and I'm glad I'm not the only guy in the world that doesn't just throw a 5.0 in their car. The 4.6 is a badass engine that doesn't get anywhere near the credit it deserves and I love seeing people show off what they're really capable of.

[@slspg]

4.6 2 valves is I think one of the best sounding V8.

[@James-es1fg]

I know people have said it but; before I found this channel I was sold that I would just coyote swap my new edge and then throw a supercharger and be done. But now I’m in love with my 4.6 all over again

[@ssgpate]

Nothing like a Stock Head 2V getting in the 8's... These are great motors and highly under rated.

[@andrewlavender08]

ssgpate agreed. With some more time and changes to the converter and a bigger turbo I think it will be a few more tenths faster

[@ssgpate]

Andrew Ill be keeping an eye out for your progress great job man..

[@andrewlavender08]

ssgpate thanks

[@Contreras-z4e]

mewrongway wrong

[@Contreras-z4e]

mewrongway 4.6 been in the 5’s before any junk chebby

[@thomasjefferson2938]

I rarely press the like button, so something special about your straightforward no nonsense presentation. 8.89 from a small block you make it seem realistically reasonable to obtain the same results.

[@mattraines6404]

your video was like a check list for my current build! the only difference is I'm running a Bullitt intake, 11:1 compression, manual trans and full interior. good to know I can see great results from this combo!

[@kidvybez]

Matt Raines what trans are you running

[@mattraines6404]

kidvybez a new stock t-45 for now.

[@manny1470]

I love seeing these 2v motors making power like this. 8.8 1/4 is fast! Nice work

[@darkhorse5932]

Fyi if you didn't already know, MMR makes a nice composite windage tray that has the oil pan gasket molded into it, just ordered one myself

[@crazymasina8524]

there was a shop in VA that did a lot of 2 valve engines Steen Racing and they were killing the game back in their day

[@k0rndog93]

Love the 4.6 2v. Dependable, durable, and can take a beating!! 26lbs of boost is incredible!!

[@WarriorOfEden3033]

Stock with headers you can get 400whp from just 8lbs with a Vortech. These engines love boost

[@GideonWallace]

I plan on building my 97 crown vic to at least 400 whp. Real encouraging to see these numbers from a 2v.

[@alexsale1569]

Same. But grand marquis

[@RRRx4690]

Bad ass I have a 2004 gt 2v and you give me a lot of hope for this car. Thanks man and keep the 2v monster alive.

[@luciankristov6436]

Rob Snow you can get cobra internals off ebay brand new for 899$ and you can find the kellogg cranks for around 350 to 450 from what I've see. Run some cnc plasma cut rings king tri metal bearing and arp mains. There's a lot of stuff online forums to show you how to port 2v heads. They're not hard to do. Forged oil pump gear and a melling high flow 4v pump from mmr is the cheapest and best route. You can get all the goods fuel systems and all from mmr and mrs.

[@hmackprotection1]

This shit Needs to be seen by way more than just a few hundred people

[@tzmetalsmith]

Shhhh... don't tell them! LOL

[@DoctorRickSanchez]

Sleeper lol

[@GV-du3fi]

I saw this car at Mod Nationals and was curious on the set up. Excellent job on the build, hope you break into 7s with the Trickflows!

[@andrewlavender08]

Gerson Vilchis thank you. I am hoping a bigger turbo and trickflows in the future could get that 7 second pass

[@andrewlavender08]

modded Crown Victoria 32v swap coming soon mainly because of its size. Much easier and cheaper to get a 4r70 or th400 to handle big power

[@andrewlavender08]

modded Crown Victoria 32v swap coming soon I am mainly going with the th400 because my friend builds them for a living

[@andrewlavender08]

modded Crown Victoria 32v swap coming soon I have but if I did I would go all out with port work and all.

[@andrewlavender08]

modded Crown Victoria 32v swap coming soon make sure you add boost to it 😎

[@larryupinhere]

Badass bro. Open a 2v shop n kill the game lol

[@brucehawk09]

I would pay him to build my 2v for sure lol

[@IntentionalHelp]

Same!!!!

[@jakelong8561]

Run a Full bolt on 4.6 2v with 100 shot Over 190k miles still runs like a champ everyday I kick it over! tuning is a big thing for mod motors. working on a build for this winter thanks for the info. Helped with my head questions Forsure!

[@WarriorOfEden3033]

Yeah these motors love boost

[@keanenellison1702]

"its actually pretty easy" lmao

[@Spad68]

Really not all that much money if you ask me . Ford crank . Rods and pistons. From what it looks like mild head port on stock vavles and aftermarket intake .

[@zombieracing4522]

I agree I took crap for building 4.6 2v on nitrous custom ground cams Victor Jr intake quick and runs on e85 swapped to quick fuel carb much much more and fast and 6 mod box from Msd

[@joeneese5863]

Love The Little Engine That Could book in the back ground it fits perfectly.

[@justin.c_svt]

I agree that the 2V's dont get the credit they deserve. I have done a lot of work with 2V's over the years and they are big stout engines. The 4V cars are great but they break just like a 2V with stock internals unless its a terminator. For how big a 2V is, I feel like they should be making more power, especially when 4 cylinders are making good power. The smaller engine 4 cylinder guys boast a lot, but once you start throwing boost at a built 2V, its not such an advantage for them anymore. I own a built MMR 2V eaton Bullitt and three 4V cars, so I'm not just saying the 2V is great because I'm partial to them. My 2V with ported heads and cams dynoed the same as a 4V both N/A and with boost. Nice build !

[@andrewlavender08]

Justin Johnson thank you. I agree the 2v 4.6 can make plenty of power with the right mods and it’s fun to see the look on people face when they realize it’s just a 2v.

[@johnconway8975]

Bro they are dogged.. I've had a 96 6 speed firebird it had more power, ... But I'll ALWAYS miss takin the 99 vert stang to about 6,000 and hitting second feeling her pop sideways and holding her on the road. Probably because it had way biget tires than the bird. But the bird would kill it in the turns

[@karlhopkins713]

@@johnconway8975 Put suspension on both the stang will probably handle better. Mm put their suspension on a fox, to this day it's one of motor trends fastest slalom cars.

[@5rand0n7]

Thanks for sharing man! I have a lot of similar parts and plan to build a teksid 4v motor when the stocker dies. I'd be lucky to make even close to what you do though because I will probably stick with my Vortech v3 blower

[@andrewlavender08]

5rand0n7 I’m sure that Vortech on a 4v will be a lot of fun

[@avalanche15301]

Right on man. Straight to the point no ffing around! subscribed!

[@pitster]

Run a stock 2v on my son's 04 GT with an ON3 kit, 5.5 lbs of boost, 350hp and 400 tq on the dyno....solid kit. When he gets out of college, I know he's going to do something like this.

[@rdy2run332]

Can you safely push 10lbs on a stock 2v engine?

[@canadianrcs9931]

rdy2run 427 from what I’ve read you can usually push a 4.6 to around 400whp on stock internals before you start breaking stuff. So it would come down to how much power you make from whatever amount of boost. I get the feeling 10lb is gonna be a little much for stock internals

[@98snakehorse]

Great stuff man. Im really leaning toward going to a holley efi setup. They seem to be the best and easiest option going standalone for the modular platform.

[@andrewlavender08]

98snakehorse yeah I love the Holley especially because the harness was plug and play. Really like megasquirt to just wish they made a harness for the mod motors

[@mustangmatt410]

You're my idol! This is exactly what I want. At first i wanted to swap to a 4 valve but thought it would be cool to get my 2 valve built.

[@andrewlavender08]

Matthew Torres thank you. The 2v is a lot better engine then people give it credit for.

[@danielmaranzana9132]

Did you end up building the 2v .?

[@jakeburcham623]

Oh yea he's like 26lbs of boost like it's nothing special on a 2v lmao

[@barbmelle3136]

For a little while

[@benbauer1257]

Can someone give me a short run down of why the LS made it but the 4.6 2v didn't. Just don't understand why.

[@srage9188]

Thanks! Always good to check in on the competition! 😼

[@randydanchak4041]

Are you still using the On3 hot side piping at this point of the build and at what horsepower level do you think the piping needs upgrading. Thank you for your knowledge and sharing it.

[@roberttompkins793]

Damn man working with a celebrity! Lol looking forward to seeing what you do this year man! Good luck to you!

[@andrewlavender08]

Haha thanks Rob

[@cesarpalmos8235]

Im looking to run an Eagle 5.0 stroker kit with some trickflow heads and a 2.6L Kenne Bell supercharger. My goal is to make 650hp at the crank. Ive seen a lot of these 2v make good power withh relatively simple mods

[@juancruz7948]

Man I wished I lived close by.. I'm in Cali.. I have a 2002 mustang roush stage 2.. getting ready to put some money into it.. anf I wish I was paying you.. lol good stuff brother

[@andrewlavender08]

Juan Cruz thanks man

[@johnnybgood58]

I'm running 12lbs boost on an 03 gt stock engine with vortech v3 3.25 pully. Its held up for 30k miles so far and still running strong.

[@ezracarrizales23]

I flip cars for a living and got this 4.6 that doesn’t wanna sell and I believe it’s for a reason might just keep it and make it go fast !!!!

[@brianehowland8678]

Awesome build bro! Doesn't surprise me at all great job.

[@johnbarker5009]

I don't know what it is about these things, but even stock with a cat back exhaust they sound like they have about 100 extra cubic inches. With the 2v engines it all seems to come down to heads.

[@gunner8822]

Was it cheaper to build that motor or the motor you bought from mmr

[@donalderdbrink647]

Nice job brotha, thanks for posting this video and showing all the big mouths who say two valve mod Motors don't make power!! I got a 97 F150 with a two valve with a few bolt-ons and it's got almost 300,000 miles on it and still runs like a bear!! Built Ford Tough💪😤

[@97lowbo]

Donald Erdbrink my 97 4.6 f150 has roughly 380k original motor 5.4 swap getting done to give the ol girl some more life 2vs are awesome!

[@IN54ANE]

Donald Erdbrink my 2000 gt has 150k i drive it every other weekend and it breaks down alot.

[@2011italianoboy]

I have an 09 F150 FX4, with 86,740 miles and I think the cam phasers are going. The 05 stang GT is running strong (62k on it) so you never know

[@k0rndog93]

My 02 Explorer 4.6 just rolled 215k tonight. So far I've only had to replace one injector, 3 coil packs and all new plugs. It's running awesome still! Other than those few things, it's all original. These 2v mod motors are built to last

[@HammerlaneRookie]

98 f150 4.6 2v 4r70w 259k still factory everything except exhaust and it has 4 cats and thats it

[@nonyabiniss6468]

Just did s 2v swap in my fox was about ready to sell it till i saw what u did with yours thanks for taking the time to share ur bad ass build!

[@HunkajunkCarModsGarage]

Great video keep up the good work going to be keeping an eye on your videos I'm doing something similar as you with the 4.6 I also have a shortened 8.8 rear end with the same gears as you LOL some people said I started backwards by starting with the rear end but the car was pretty bad seen that you had subscribed my channel so you know the condition of what this Mustang was in again keep up the good work. Look forward to seeing more of your videos on your build

[@la.fishsticker119]

You are correct. Very under estimated engines.

[@micahobaca]

I'm going to go source a teksid block from the junk yard tomorrow. Is there anything extra I should grab beside the block? I heard there's a bolt on the timing cover that's required. I'm staying 2v. Also I have a 4r70w do I need anything off the mark 8 along those lines?

[@ericblakeney8776]

Love the videos brother and all the heads Up Racing keep them coming please

[@williamjacobs5907]

Thats a nasty 2v set up 👍

[@paulbratcher4402]

Montgomery County TN doing our thing! Great build. Now come help me build mine. I have beer!

[@Clamjammer]

Hey man I have a question for you!! I just diagnosed my crown Victoria misfire! Cylinder 4 on this 2v 4.6 my cam follower fell off ! Why would this happen ? I was able to reinstall it with a flathead screwdriver,no problem. I then checked compression on this cylinder and while the other cylinders tested at190-200psi and held there well. This cylinder (4)only got to 90 psi. A wet test brought it up to 190psi. A friend says”yep,bad rings needs a rebuild”. I dont believe it. The car has 40k miles on it. Should I be lookin for something else ? I’m a bit of a novice with auto repairs. With the cylinder on the compression stroke(not top dead center) I shot air into the spark plug well and can feel it freely leaking out of the intake port(I have the intake removed-another issue). Am I missing something ? Should the head be removed? This is my daily driver and only vehicle and I need it running by the time this quarantine crap is over. I also had a coolant leaking internally in the intake manifold. It’s possible it was pulling coolant into this cylinder ,even tho cylinder8 was right next to the leaking culprit gasket, this cylinder tests fine

[@ghosttraining1015]

Hey i have a rusted out 03 vic with bad valves. Was thinkin of just sending the heads out to be done. Would you suggest that or buyin new performance heads? Was thinkin of makin it a trophy truck style vic.

[@luciankristov6436]

4.6 2v and 5.4 2vs are so underrated. They make great power for low money compared to the 4vs

[@WarriorOfEden3033]

4.6s are cheap too

[@antwineprichard3943]

Hey glad to see u doing well ...I have seen u at Clarksville man ur car is fast ... keep building bro

[@andrewlavender08]

Antwine Prichard thanks

[@bodyshotjake7475]

Have you looked into the 6R80 swap with the quick 6 controller? Awesome car man!!! 2v are a great motor to mod

[@andrewlavender08]

Bodyshot Jake thanks man. I have looked into the 6r80 but it’s a little out of my price range

[@meca13b]

Nasty , very nice affective simple set-up thanks for sharing Andrew subbed, liked, And hope to see more

[@andrewlavender08]

meca13b thank you

[@LegalLowGround]

Just to ask, how come you're running a custom rear diff/axle? I heard you can just put gears in the rear end, weld the tubes and people run them on 1000hp+. So everyone says I'm not 100% I just got my 02 GT. Was planning on LS swapping my Ranger I had but plans changed, and that's how I heard about the famous Ford 8.8 rear end

[@allaboutdiy1375]

So you say it’s a stock cobra crankshaft, is it out of the same year car? No mods to it? Basically buy this crank brand new and install it into the stock GT sohc block? If so what rods do you buy? Ones for a cobra or for an sohc? Or are they the same? I’m contemplating building another motor for my 2003 GT and I’m thinking about going this route. Just wanted to pick your brain for a minute. Also with the cobra crank this would essentially be a stroker at that point so are there specific pistons that would be required for this setup? I would be using the trick flow heads. Thanks for your time! Awesome car!!!

[@fanghicheck]

26lb ? sounds like more than FUN ? learned something today

[@zombieracing4522]

Todd does great work talk to him before on messenger

[@justicedavenport6388]

How much would you say it takes to build a 8second 4.6

[@bigbeaver7134]

I have a 1998 f250 4.6L 281W how can I make this faster, and run better then stock, And what website do I go to. Thanks

[@philipshaffer401]

Did you have to do any machine work to block to make the cobra crankshaft work

[@charlesbrewer76]

Seeing a 4.6 2V that can run that good gives me hope in building up my spare 4.6 to put in a sleeper Crown Vic.

[@zombieracing4522]

Nice build thanks for sharing

[@Darksage123456]

Love the car, this makes me excited for what my car can run... I should be makiing 1 or 200 more hp with close to the same setup, I just want it to run a 8!

[@andrewlavender08]

Brandon Watson if you set the car up right it should be an easy goal

[@jlj547]

Can you please list the parts and where you got them. Thanks

[@ber0h]

2 valve OHCs are my ish... All the low end perks of large valves, without the limitations of the pushrod's reciprocating mass... If more air is needed, FI that ish(like OP did) (Centrifugal chargers give RELIABLE top end power(in my experience))

[@joshuachilders129]

Great video. Idk why ohc v8s like in these Fords, get a bad rep for being too complicated. They really aren’t! Misconception and myths.

[@robertchristensen3868]

At the end of the day if you shove enough boost down a engines throat it’ll make whatever power as it can mechanically handle. Unfortunately my idea of doing a early modular swap in my f100 is starting to look more like a bad idea. These motor may be “decent” but again the aftermarket for them is slim much like the fe you’ll spend more money than you need to. So if you want a ford engine that makes a shit load of power n/a get yourself a coyote or a sbf that’s just my opinion. I wish odd ball engine like the fe and the early modulars would get more attention more towards the fe though that engine is a absolute masterpiece.

[@megantripp9520]

hey man sweet build glad to see a 2v build running right btw why not machine that lump in front of the intake valve off seems like removing it would help unshroud the valve and free up a hp or 2.. id bet its just some emissions crap anyway i mean really whens the last hemi or semi hemi or top fuel head you saw with a big knot in front the valve?

[@andrewlavender08]

Megan Tripp it’s help with low lift flow #s but is beneficial to remove it with appropriate port work in the runner. I’m going to trickflow heads soon so not putting any more $ into the pi heads

[@jonroberts6518]

Standard wrist pins, So your not using the m-13 Tool wrist pins ?

[@linoacuna7230]

U got an eBay turbo wow that's pretty impressive bro.great results as well

[@dannymyers5345]

I've seen fully built 5.8 4v that had ran 8 1/4 mile. And having a 4.0 kB super charger in a 13 super Snake. Needless to say that is very impressive. I always said 2v ftw lol

[@H00K-KING]

What's done to the 4r70....manual valve body?

[@LunaTicFAM]

How much to build something like that turn key?

[@tpalm88]

Thanks bro! Simple nice setup👍👍👍👌

[@slobmob6313]

It's still a aluminum block most newedge mustangs are cast iron we're do I get a engine like thAt

[@chadbbcmustang3319]

Damn brother that car moves out!! I have an 03 GT and would love some info on where you had the motor work done. I live in the bootheel of Missouri and noticed your from Tennessee.

[@zacharysalazar48]

Damn I have almost the same set up except Im about to order the on3 70mm kit. What do u suggest that I change on that kit? What fuel injectors and fuel pump setup do you think I should go away and what size mass air flow? I also have a stock Romero block that's one of the things that are different from your setup how much power do you think I can run safely on that stock block?

[@andrewlavender08]

Zachary Salazar watch my video on my review of the on3 turbo kit. 80lb per hour fuel injectors and switching to a return style fuel system would be best with twin 255lph pumps if you plan to run 93 octane. The iron block should hold well over what that 70mm turbo will make

[@zacharysalazar48]

Andrew Lavender I was planning on using E85. I'm having problems finding a cobra set up for the tank I was thinking about using a single 450 pump I wanna run about 20-25LBS of boost. Will the 80LBS injectors hold up?

[@andrewlavender08]

Zachary Salazar for that much boost and e85 u are going to need 2 450lph pumps and better off going to1200cc injectors. Fuel injector clinic has some good injectors at better pricing than some other companies.

[@zacharysalazar48]

Andrew Lavender ok cool thanks so much for the info I'll take a look at that. Any suggestion for a mass air flow? And where to get one?

[@andrewlavender08]

Zachary Salazar no problem. Look into a sct BA5000 mass airflow. I used to run one on stock Ecu and it worked great

[@bigghost3757]

Im here in tn wondering if i could bring my engine to you guys for a build if so a estimated price range im ordering a modular motor rotating assembly no boring needed

[@jmahtab]

Awesome build man! Makes me miss my 03 GT. What setup are you running for fuel and tuning?

[@zombieracing4522]

I.would love to see ya run around are track alot of guy's I respect only are in 9s with big blocks big dollar motors just sometimes it gets too there head

[@richardb6510]

What is the rear tire rim size

[@jessemclinden8055]

Thanks on the video. Just got an 05 p71 and hadn't decided on 2v or 3v. If you don't mind me asking, what's the shift point with the 109 lca?

[@andrewlavender08]

Jesse Mclinden right at 7k rpm

[@561onboost5]

Isn’t the 4r70w trans in the v6 mustang?

[@Floordford]

How do you get a 2v in the 8s? Have Chuck Norris give you a push.

[@andrewlavender08]

Floordford 😂

[@2vgod460]

Did you like the wap better that’s why your using it over the teksid

[@welcome2myworld1.o89]

How much HP can a NA 2V have reliable and reasonable amount of money? Or would it be worth swapping in a 3v?

[@peanutbutterisfu]

3:00 the horsepower rating is for the engine lol! How could they rate a part for rear wheel horsepower they have no way to know what transmission ur gonna use or anything else that robs power like power steering, a/c.

[@12fireshadow]

Hey so i could do this for my 2008 P71 CRIEN VIC ?? Same 4.6 2v

[@joshcox6609]

Have you done anything to the transmission, or did you use a different one?

[@madjub639]

dude!! u said bored to 20 over , sorry ! is it millimeters or inches ?

[@andrewlavender08]

Jubran.97 .020”

[@krownvikkhris3004]

This is very impressive, are 3.55s the best gear for a turbo with a 4r70?

[@dschNgz]

Which oil would u recommend on an 4.6 2v ? 5w20 or 5w30 ? I live in germany where temperatures are not especially high

[@DragRacingandCarStuff]

I'm gonna predict another similar video before the end of this year, or perhaps spring 2021: how to go 4s with a 4.6 2v :)

[@46Savage]

Im trying to go into 10s na. My cam guy told me i should be in the low 12s on stock suspension. Love your build tho.

[@signlsirchir2156]

so a goal of 9sec 1/4's on leafs is a pipe dream?

[@jesussaldana9062]

How much money did you put all said and done? Sick build by the way brother

[@dannymartin6193]

Finally some good 2v feedback for us egde owners, hope in the future your goals are reached my dude ✌👍👌

[@rolandbeliveau8379]

*get a coyote, throw 15 psi of boost and good fuel system at it, run 8s stock motor, trans and rear end* there. Fixed it for you

[@afri1414]

I know you said DSS Racing doesn't do 2V heads anymore. What stage porting do you remember your heads being, Stage 1,2 or 3? Would it be best to just run TFS 185s or 195s?

[@andrewlavender08]

Afri do yourself a favor and get the trickflows. 185s if it will be a 4.6

[@Brett321]

Why not 195

[@famboozie3005]

Very inspiring !! 🏁

[@fordnut4914]

People dont relize how much higher you can rev a 4.6 or 5.4 over a ls engine. If you tried it with a 5.3 it would be gasping for air .

[@jacksonledford6874]

Does anybody do anything with the 3 valve? I see lots of stuff about the 2s and 4s but not much on the 3s