HOW TO: Grease The ICON Delta Joint

[@alexissanchezkid]

What size is that zert? Needs to replace to a standard zert since the needle one sucks.

[@woadscout9955]

1/4-28 Zerk . The straight still fits snug under the cover with the rubber seal.

[@xguntherc]

I see the grease channels.. but I'm having no luck getting grease thru

[@matthemmis5389]

What size Allen wrench @icon

[@iconvehicledynamicstv]

7/64

[@Adam_K_W]

@ICON why do I need to buy a $25 adapter for my grease gun after buying several thousand dollars worth of your products? The fact that I have to search for the info on how to grease these in the first place is a bit of a failure as well. I love my suspension, but you could have fostered a great deal of customer satisfaction and brand loyalty by including the needle adapter with every pair of Billet UCA's. I've been meaning to grease mine over the past three weekends and I cannot find the adapter locally so I guess I need to order yours. At this price point and your place in the market, You can do better.

[@TravelingFloridaWithJayson]

I 100% agree, it would also be nice for them to recommend what type of grease, I had an idea, you think no worries I will read the instructions, nope, sorry not there either. I had to search youtube to confirm. SMH and I had to read the comments in the video for them to confirm it.

[@Gnargoyle811]

Update, price on the adapter is now an insulting $67.15…

[@artm6723]

Amazon?

[@Bruisejuices]

Poor them. Have to buy their grease nail and instructions to re-grease is horrible.

[@MrFordmanf150]

First time greasing a set of brand new Delta Joint PRO and the joint is not allowing grease to flow through?

[@MrFordmanf150]

Is ICON needle grease fitting specifically made to grease these joints? My "Lock-N-Lube" needle grease fitting seems to be too small?

[@Bruisejuices]

They are horrible with the greasing part.

[@MrFordmanf150]

​@@Bruisejuices I spoke to Icon past weekend, they stated to have someone wiggle the steering wheel while greasing. 🤣🤷

[@clarencemckimmy9437]

@@MrFordmanf150told me the same thing

[@lukewilliams4160]

What are the 3m adhesive rings for? It says we need them in the beginning of the video but no mention of what they're for in the actual instructions...

[@iconvehicledynamicstv]

They're for re-installing the billet dust cap on tubular UCA's. Billet UCA's don't need them, and some tubular UCA's didn't come with dust caps and therefore don't need them.

[@itayrozenstein6989]

Just got those installed in my Toyota 4Runner I'm trying to grease with a needle fitting but it's not greasing everything spills right out what should I do?

[@iconvehicledynamicstv]

Give our Tech Team a call at [phone] and they'll be able to assist you.

[@clarencemckimmy9437]

@@iconvehicledynamicstvhaving same problem on 24 Tundra, have your grease needle, truck is at ride height, moved the steering 10degrees at a time, still not getting grease to flow like your video, seen video of others saying the same. Even changed out the grease fitting to normal one, still no luck, have called and emailed. Now I am questioning why I bought them, tried for 2 days

[@Nordic_off_roading]

Where do you get that needle tool from ?

[@gerardallen3438]

you guys should do this with the bushing because my truck kept squeaking and i had no idea how to cure that

[@colbertbd]

Are you saying you greased your bushings? How did you do it.

[@nickolashaustein]

For the Bushings on the tubular arms should you loosen the bolts before greasing or can you grease them with everything tightened?

[@iconvehicledynamicstv]

Yes, you should definitely loosen the pivot bolts before greasing. Check out our UCA maintenance video for all of the details!

[@luismarquez9952]

Wouldn't loosening the through bolt cause the alignment to change???

[@Nuclearwinter100]

@@luismarquez9952 no

[@billwilliams4281]

Can the standard low profile grease fitting be replaced with a Zerk fitting? And do you have to use the Icon Needle Grease Adapter?

[@Adam_K_W]

I have the same question, but looking at the height, the dust cover isn't deep enough to fit over a standard zerk. You could probably buy a standard fitting, swap it to grease the joint with a regular grease gun, then swap it back before putting the cover back on, but that's a pain to do and you might strip something out. Probably better to just bite the bullet and get the adapter.

[@J.NOBODY.1]

@@Adam_K_W On my tundra billet Delta joint ucas I have the Standard Zerk fitting and I have no issues with my dust caps. Fit perfectly under there on my setup. Granted that's how they came sent to me from icon.

[@woadscout9955]

I replaced my needle zerk with the standard 1/4-28 zerk and my caps fit snuggly with the rubber seal.

[@kzh910]

Can I use any NGLI #2 grease? For example Luca's XTRA-Heavy Duty Grease #2

[@billwilliams4281]

What size Zero fittings are these?

[@gcloud2000]

Just been doing a little more research after installing these on my F150. I’m curious: the ball of the joint has grease grooves that allow the joint to hold grease (possibly other reasons as well). These grooves travel to the bottom of the ball and are exposed to the elements on the underside at certain angles. Is this not a pathway for dust to enter? I was wondering when I first saw this why a little boot wasn’t designed into the mix. There seems to be, at least in the ‘16 F150 version, enough space along the tapered rod (for lack of knowledge of a better word) that inserts into the knuckle to allow for some sort of mini boot there. I suppose a boot would pinch. Given I drive nearly entirely gravel, I’m curious to see the longevity of these, and will be tripling the recommended grease change frequency, along with every other regularly scheduled maintenance item:/ My second question relates to the attachment joints at the frame. Heim joints I think they’re called. It seems the joints are not parallel to each other. ie one seems a bit twisted compared to the other. Is this due to my bad installing “techniques” or nothing to worry about? Love em so far by the way, especially in combination with my new @elkasuspension shocks. Fun! And smooth. 👍

[@SteelHntr29]

you are 100% right about the grease grooves, they allow dirt to be imported under the very cheap rubber seal...I have not been getting good life from the delta joint, very unhappy for the price....switching over to SPC UCA or possible BDS with the moog joints

[@Ajv516]

Couldn’t you just replace the rubber seal with a better one from another manufacturer?

[@danielhannah9771]

I was just wondering about this the other day I have the billets so I'll check and see what fitting it is and get on it thanks! TacomaNationTc

[@iconvehicledynamicstv]

Your UCA's should have the low profile zerk fitting installed as this comes standard on billet arms to avoid interference with the Delta Joint Cover.

[@danielhannah9771]

@@iconvehicledynamicstv good deal I'm going to get everything now and the brand of grease is the kind in the video correct?

[@christbland]

Can i use Daystar Lubrathane for the delta joint? Its what i use on the UCA bushings so it would be ideal for one grease gun

[@iconvehicledynamicstv]

We're not sure about this one. We recommend reaching out to Daystar to see if their grease is NLGI #2 compliant.

[@K1DS11]

ICON Vehicle Dynamics so you guys dont have a spec on the grease material itself besides that it should be NLGI #2?

[@viewoptic]

Is the brand of grease displayed in the video ok to use on bushings as well for the tubular control arms?

[@Kidog13]

did you ever figure it out??

[@xBigBear420]

@@Kidog13 @viewoptic yea lol you figure it out haha?

[@b.hoover8576]

Schaeffer Manufacturing Co. Moly Ultra Grease NLGI #2

[@jusincraze9527]

So my icon delta joint ucas were just put on. The bushing are squeaking on the uca. The ball joint is fine but it squeakers going over bumps at low speed. What do I do? They are brand new

[@colbyd7814]

Try loosening the uca bolt, greasing then tightening at ride height

[@woadscout9955]

Icons naturally squeak. Best to invest in some nice speakers and a good radio.

[@OttoMatieque]

nice product it would have been good to make the gasket and screws captured by the dust cover - small loose parts are a no-no

[@jonathanbosserman2069]

Hi Guys, just got a set of these, waiting to go onto my Tacoma. Do they come already greased to begin with, that I can install them and be worry free for the first 3,000 miles? Thanks a ton in advance!

[@iconvehicledynamicstv]

Congrats on your purchase! Yes, the ICON Delta Joints come pre-greased and are ready to go.

[@rynoferrous]

So, just to verify, do not jack up the vehicle at all? Grease at ride height sitting on the ground? I've had trouble getting grease into the joint but I was lifting it; maybe that was my issue.

[@iconvehicledynamicstv]

Correct, you want to have the vehicle at ride height (sitting under it's own weight) so that the angle of the Delta Joint is not as severe, this allows room for grease to flow into/around the joint. If you need more details please contact us directly via email [e-mail]. Thanks!

[@rynoferrous]

@@iconvehicledynamicstv that was so easy this time. Many thanks!

[@visionary761]

@@iconvehicledynamicstv what about the bushings?

[@DerekC_MTB]

Can I use this same grease on the bushings?

[@iconvehicledynamicstv]

Yep!

[@zachpeat5076]

What size allen wrench is it?

[@matthemmis5389]

Did you find out cause none of mine fit and I have a million and none fit?

[@matthemmis5389]

Did you find out cause none of mine fit and I have a million and none fit?

[@matthemmis5389]

Did you find out cause none of mine fit and I have a million and none fit?

[@zachpeat5076]

My buddy used his I’ll find out what size it was

[@Bruisejuices]

Their fitting nail doesn't fit standard grease guns. Not user friendly at all....

[@da1re2]

Can I used Lucas n’ tacky #2

[@iconvehicledynamicstv]

Yes

[@c.s.s.5326]

Should be noted, the tubular control arms zerk fitting is a pain in the ass that never works and likely should have never been used. A visual on the “aligned grease channel” would have been to obvious to have been helpful as well but I digress.

[@Riquelmelunico10]

I con👍