How To Grow Better Tasting Weed! (Part 2) - From The Stash Podcast Ep.195

[@RookieBuds]

I just realized this. . ... P kinda looks like a cross between Chris & Rob 🤷‍♂🤣🤣🤣

[@force9446]

@@RookieBuds Chrob

[@noahsgarden7072]

LMAO

[@BrianM-44041]

P is the cheese in the from the stash sammich.

[@thomascooley2749]

Lol something you can't unsee

[@MegaBadaboom88]

Dude! Hahahaha 😂

[@piffguy6745]

I had my ac going full blast just to keep my lung room under 65f during drying/curing here in Rhode Island the humidity has been absurd been pulling 5gallons of water out my dehumidifier every 52 hrs just about. If you don’t keep your room to par you wasted the whole grow don’t cut any corners on the home stretch.

[@davidbryden7904]

@piffguy6745 I feel ya. Try maintaining a steady environment when it's over 100° F outside. 🥵 My dry tent is 30 inches from my AC unit, getting blasted with the coldest air it'll make, and it's still only 67° inside it during the hottest part of the day. I'm trying to adjust the vpd, hoping that a higher humidity will help slow the dry and retain the terps. 🤞

[@chrispoggi1726]

Wish I knew that 2 years ago haha I finally have the proper equipment and it's making the difference

[@skibx1441]

@@piffguy6745 cannatrol is a game changer..best investment in a long time

[@michaelrogers7055]

@@chrispoggi1726what’s the proper equipment consist of?

[@BrianM-44041]

After trying a whole gambit of growing methods ive found returning to living soil and organics with minimum synthetics is the best and easiest way to grow tasty smelly buds. Its also one of the least expensive and has less variables for failure.

[@GiantSlayer512]

Totally agree bro

[@Dino_Hunter_420]

Make it wicking beds and I agree

[@BrianM-44041]

@@Dino_Hunter_420 wicking or drip system either way it's basically automated lol

[@Dino_Hunter_420]

@@BrianM-44041 drips can clogg sometimes & unless gravity fed pump can fail + electricity. Wicking is simple and really efficient but you need to control the dry backs

[@BrianM-44041]

@@Dino_Hunter_420 I use fish tank tubing with a cut off sponge in the end and it never clogs, no electricity. Wicks are great too but can get some algae on them and build up any salt based stuff you might run through them. I like to hand water regardless whether it's top or bottom but that's just because I enjoy it whatever works best for you is the right thing to do. Keep up the growing , growmie!

[@DevilsAdvocateBoxing]

I have a cannatrol and I’ll never go back. It’s unbelievably easy to just wet trim and stick it in there without disturbing any of the trichomes. Bud comes out pristine with no effort.

[@High_Society_420]

It's sent from heaven, I put it in grove bags after 30 days with Boveda. So smooth and consistent. Works like a friggin charm.

[@fliporphil1335]

"Pristine" huh...? 🤔 How much power does it draw from the wall?

[@BK-qz8mm]

@@fliporphil1335 The Cannatrol Cool Cure draws 70 watts.

[@hbpw857]

@@DevilsAdvocateBoxing wet trimming damages trichs

[@derekdavis8054]

How u wet trim n not touch the trichs...sorry but if u wet trim u hit the trichs

[@bradsubject3641]

60 60 is baseline I usually try to do 50 to 60rh with 60 to 70 degrees f for 7 to 14days depending on density of the buds keep any temp or rh swings between those numbers and your good

[@MinnesotaHighLife]

I've been dying in my tent using cannatrol's parameters instead of 60% and 60° with good results. At 68° and 60% dew point sits right around 54° Dew Point, i keep the tent between 66°-70° and and can hold the 60% RH.

[@fpoolboy]

I do 70° and 57% same DEW point of 54...👍🪴 Around 10 days trim and in Grove Bags, RH lands somewhere between the require 57/62...👊😀

[@TheDankTank420]

I would suggest jeremy silva said it best to let the plant naturally undergo senescence and the plant will tell you when its done by decrease in water uptake and natural fade

[@themobcastpodcast4138]

Just starting trimming and you guys bless me with a new ep 🔥🙌🏾💪🏾 appreciate y’all

[@tuk6352]

Thanks to watching Mr. GROW IT SHOW. Appreciate

[@wgray1121]

I love this show I watch it while I'm in my garden like now

[@jessebates7263]

ACI, When are you going to drop a cannatrol alternative? A cure box that incorporates your controller69 pro. That would be awesome!🙂❤️🙂

[@WreckitRalphie]

I second this!! Make it affordable

[@High_Society_420]

With ACI having a $700 floor model mini split, my belief is there isn't any value in competing with a $1700 product. ACI would likely charge more. They charge more for everything.

[@Pure_Presha]

Given ACI's quality, the ability to integrate with all their other gear, and awesome warranty program; I'm in!!!

[@justinkuhn2584]

Things that optimize yeild usually will take from all oils% (all thc cbn cbd flavinoids, terps and so on).😊

[@theracinggroove4728]

Guys check out the herbsnow dryer. I think it backs up a warmer dry temp for perseverance of terps and more consistent dry which then helps for better cure.

[@High_Society_420]

To be fair.....Dr. Bugby didn't say no. He said that there isn't any data to support that claim. Let's keep it G 💯

[@margaretflanagan9148]

I've enjoyed watching your show! I'm from Maine and have a relatively short growing season and have learned a LOT, watching your podcast. I see Pidgeon's is a Jays fan and being an OLD athlete myself, I pigeon hole you 3. Pigeon being a shortstop or 2nd base. Chris at first and Rob a catcher! Am I right??? Peace

[@DevilsAdvocateBoxing]

Also it was like 69 degrees not 75 if I’m not mistaken. He said up to 85 in veg, 75 early flower and 70 second half of flower. One of Bugbee’s students released a chart, he was on migro channel as well, and it looked like they dropped the temp a lot earlier than mid flower. They dropped it in flower then dropped it again in late flower.

[@tuk6352]

My last grow I followed the canitrol 68f 54rh. I got 10 days. Was my best of 9 grows. Full plant hang

[@BudgetNugs]

GMO Atlas seeds is absolutely insane. Ive been pushing it for a minute it's pure gasss.

[@goldieforever981]

I think next episode you guys should talk about white label beans

[@seanmac420]

@@goldieforever981 that’s a good idea

[@chrispoggi1726]

GREAT TOPIC! also white label in rec cannabis ie: buying 10 pounds of a strain from a grow and renaming it and putting it under your own brand

[@zemekz1]

Mother bird baby bird is the perfect analogy

[@PoppaLongroach]

Drop the temp down half way through flower, cut the nutes and cut my lights back the last 2 weeks. It seems to make a big difference for me

[@BrianM-44041]

That's because you're basically mimicking fall/autumn. If we strive to simulate the natural environment we tend to do better than when we fight the genetic instincts of the plant.

[@chrisdomingo9143]

I veg indoor and flower outdoor … in summer I bring my plants on the balcony in the cooler shade and let it have that late afternoon sun in late flower so I can mimic fall … I live in Hawaii we don’t have fall lol

[@BrianM-44041]

@@chrisdomingo9143 can't beat the sun and outdoor air.

[@toonarmy4424]

@@chrisdomingo9143 anything grows in Hawaii lol big deal

[@chrisdomingo9143]

@@toonarmy4424 but we don’t get fall so we miss out on that part of the cycle I like the pretty colors it produces in fall is that a problem ?

[@keithpierce8666]

Song for the typos, I tried to edit incorrect but looks like KZbin didn't like it so the edit failed. Keep up the good work

[@samchapple6363]

Cannatrol is correct, 68F at 60RH. Greater retention of moisture. I doubt anyone really runs at 60/60. They might think they are but luck is usually with them. Dew point is mold, completely saturated, no drying

[@BrianM-44041]

If you keep it under the temperatures at which flavonoids, terpenes, volatile organic compounds(vocs), and other cannabinoids evaporated or vaporize, then you're generally safe. It's always losing some throughout its life cycle, and it's constantly replacing them with new ones nightly. The key is to harvest when the production outweighs the degradation. That week when it stinks to high heaven in the mornings and at bedtime is usually early when the trichomes are mostly clear or a mix milky and clear and lasts into the middle of the milky stage. After that it begins to diminish slightly and if left long enough into the ambering stage may even become unpleasant, harsh, or bitter. The curing process plays a huge part in these processes as well as gasses are expelled, and fermentation occurs. Bacterial and fungal action also play a part in flavor. The exudates in the rhizosphere alter many functions in the plant. There are some who even believe moon phases affect the taste, chosing to harvest during the new moon or a full moon depending on their goals. Companion plants can affect expression of terpenes as well. Brix levels may affect taste and smell. Moisture levels when harvested, wet or dry trimming, etc can factor in. Tobacco is generally cured first then dried later, the opposite of how cannabis has traditionally been treated. Some Asian cultures fermented it wet as well, such as in Thailand. Slower dry and cure without mold can lead to a unique flavor. I think we have a lot to learn about drying and curing still. I typically dry at 70 and cure at about 62% rh. My peak flavor is normally at about 3 to 5 weeks of cure time after anywhere between 5 to 10 days hanging in the dark with a light breeze in the room, at 70 degrees and anywhere between 50 and 65% humidity. I'm willing to try some other methods such as fermenting, wet cure, water curing, burying, etc. I'd love to see you e explore that topic in depth. Dr Bruce, Luna all-day, Brandon rust, Jeremy Silva, Kevin jodrey, and many commercial master growers have differing ideas and questions yet to be answered but all have presented some evidence that perhaps we aren't all the way there yet and there may be a better way. I'm fine with it being dried old school, but I'm always open to ideas.

[@BrianM-44041]

I've also dried at lower temps and actually found that at 60 I seem to lose a little smell and taste compared to the warmer dried stuff. It must never go over 72 to 75 during drying though or it loses quite a bit and becomes harsher. I've fried a batch or two over the years and it sucked. 65 degrees f is what I aim for, Incidentally, I just always seem to end up around 69 to 70 lol it works okay but I have to really regulate the temps like a hawk during summer.

[@robertforte3085]

Great episode boys!!

[@cultivateyourself]

If terps volatise with heat, lower temps would preserve terps. However, tricombs need light.

[@BrianM-44041]

In order to produce trichomes the plant needs a certain amount of heat, light, water, nutrients, CO2 and oxygen. Trichomes themselves are more of an 'armor' for the cannabis plant. It's a defensive mechanism against extreme temps, drought, pests, etc. this is another good reason to Include chitin in your soils. Chitin triggers a similar response on a smaller scale, or even sometimes dramatically.

[@chrisdomingo9143]

How would you explain this on an outdoor grow ?

[@BrianM-44041]

@@chrisdomingo9143 the plants are able to produce trichomes and terpenes faster than they can degrade from heat and light. It's a defense system of the plant. It's also how it propagates itself. Plants grow ideally outside, the only advantage of indoor is stealth and ability to regulate the climate.

[@cultivateyourself]

@chrisdomingo9143 More light out door, but cooler air flow and more of it.

[@chrisdomingo9143]

@@cultivateyourself @brian-44041 Thanks for the explanation I flower outdoor and veg indoor … it’s sooo freakin hot even tho it says it’s only 85 outside in Hawaii … I gotta find the right outdoor genetics I guess still learning thanks bros

[@wgray1121]

I wish I could be on this show one day. I been growing since I was 16 early 2000 and the things you talk about I be trying to tell people who just started growing or try to tell people how do it right and you don't need a lot. But I m a basement grower and grow some of the best in grand rapids MI.

[@FromTheStash]

Shout out to my home town 💪✋ Rob

[@juangotti2202]

Hell yea brotha im from ohio and i got alot of gas outts michigan. Somefrom grand rapids also. Keep growing brotha u never know u might be on the show one day

[@TheDankTank420]

Lets gooo from whittier ca on post as security guard at local dispo

[@5clyde]

CANNATROL GOT ME COVERED!!!🌳 GOOD EPISODE GUYS!!!🌳

[@LacyGrows]

Loved the Video!!!

[@bearfamilycanna]

6:53 His anger translator 😂🤣😂🤣 One of my all time favorite Key & Peele skits! ✌️💙🌱🌵

[@dwaynentiff]

Welcome to Canada hope you had a good time I see that green container is that spinach GMO how did you like that garbage 😂😂

[@Josh-ye4tx]

Just use vpd dial in 0.8 and your Good it could be 70f 65rh and the flowers will dry in 10 to 14 days and that what matters 😊

[@50dbo]

Seems like I’m getting on the mower every time you guys fire content down range. Keep it going fellas… I gotta lotta grass to mow at home, while I smoke “grass”

[@force9446]

trim jail, yard edition

[@50dbo]

@@force9446😂they both look damn good when they are done, organic isn’t a bad look either

[@jjjjjasonjjjjjackson]

An industrial dehumidifier sounds like it would be your best friend up there in Canada

[@jamiewatson491]

Fyi regarding drying/curing with canatrol. Highter temps/warmer air means it can hold more water vapour, thus slowing the drying process. Higher temperatures does not mean a faster drying process its more to do with water vapour in the area drying in. I do not understand why people think higher temps mean a quicker dry. that is a misconception. Thats also why canatrol has a good product because he understands that.

[@bobdobs23]

There are also flavonoids and. What are they sensitive to?

[@fliporphil1335]

I need a legalize tomatoes shirt!

[@buktownsoldier]

Ha ha I love pigeons is toking a fat blunt. I might need to play the lottery today 😂😂😂

[@BatPlumbAndColin]

Chris, where did you get that grey THC molecule tee, love that, checked your store, only have red, white, purple or orange 👍

[@JuulzzFPV]

Thanks for your video! Just a question, i breed aquarium shrimps and use ph buffer soil to keep it stable Could this work for the soil mix on plants?

[@tokenoperator1983]

Keegan Michael Key was Obama's anger translator hahaha great skit

[@Pure_Presha]

Pigeons always bringing the 🔥 shoe game! 😅

[@slayfocused]

68° is the sweet spot

[@DecayingReality]

Im digging Front Row AG’s dry soluble. It’s only 3 parts. You only need the 3 parts. I don’t even add cal mag. I think it’s in the formula. Just RO at 6.4. 1.6-2EC. Super terpy. I was running Elev8 genetics though. Their stuff is terpy.

[@chuck419plus1]

what up guys....question: can i use stash blend along with my fox farm nutes...or should i just use it alone?

[@FromTheStash]

Yeah, just dial back the feeding of Fox Farm about 25% compared to the usual dosage

[@gangofgreenhorns2672]

29:41 "The views of Rob CLTV are not those of From the Stash Podcast, nor are they endorsed by Stash Blend TM." - Mr GrowIt lol

[@TheDankTank420]

Dont forget with o.l.s. the microbial life plays a huge factor in micro and macro nutrients. Stuff like idk stash blend right?

[@SourWeezle]

KEEGAN MICHEAL KEY! WAS BARACK'S "ANGER TRANSLATOR" DAMMIT!!! Sorry, i was telling you guys the answer the whole time, you just couldn't hear me!

[@MorganRoutt]

What does LOS stand for? It keeps getting mentioned.

[@michaelrichter607]

The cannatrol is silly i see soo many new growers think they need a 1000 $ mini fridge to dry 3 ozs of a rqs autoflower . Or they think if its not exactly 60 /60 its ruined. Get the environment as good as possible i like 60-70 fh and 52-60 rh and good indirect air movement. Winter time im hanging whole plants keeping some fan leaves. Summer time hanging branches no fan leaves .

[@justinkuhn2584]

But ultimately i see it as, genetics (main ingredient, the meat)mixed with inputs (seasonings) then environment (how you prepare and cook it). All can and will have impact.

[@justinkuhn2584]

I suppose I'd separate Environment is how it's cooked , then dry and cure is the whole prepaired dish presentation.

[@JPPW43]

Don't smoke with butane use Hemp Wick instead.

[@slm32913]

my organic living soil flower is just as tasty if not better and smokes way smoother than any salt grown batch ive ever had

[@00piper18000]

Genetics is the biggest factor by far. You can grow bad genetics in the most optimal environment and it'll still have minimal flavour. If you grow a plant with great terps in an ok environment, you'll still get a tasty product. Unless you know someone with great cuttings then the only way to get good genetics is pheno hunting. You'll know when you've found something special.

[@Noraf83]

If it's not in the genotype, it can't express in the phenotype.

[@user-lu4qe5td3o]

Yall never mentioned water quality being an issue thats like 50 percent of the battle when it comes to A1 gas.

[@uncle_creepy2743]

trick is getting as much right as you can or at least letting nature do it right and stay out of its way

[@bobdobs23]

Back to landrace in soil under sun and you will experience what ganga is capable of.

[@johnkehoe8368]

when ya have no taste after years of being diabetic you dont care what it tastes like so long as it gets ya high lol

[@machiavelligaming9755]

in order to push k you need to push P first. trust me you will love the results

[@justinkuhn2584]

Living soil also has all the terps, oils and compounds that make up everything and the microbes to do it, from within the inputs . Like if you (human) eat nothing but fruits greens vs beef onions your bodily smells and tastes will difer especially over one's whole life.

[@TokamakPolywell]

Wink going a little heavy with the Pidgeon nug shot cam? Or is he showing us how to get better tasting weed? Either way, too much stash on the table, lol! Maybe keep it chest high for the pink flasher!

[@davidtoomey6146]

In regards to white paper I have blind confidence in the results. The professionals conducting the tests probably have a similar passion if they are will to deal with stigma in community (I’m not naive money talks). I am a synthetic grower. That said if AN could debunk the “myth” or organic upside they would’ve spent for white papers. If there’s money for study and it doesn’t exist the results would benefit big money. In my humble opinion.

[@darrinpillsbury33]

Pigeons, please put your feet on the ground or cross your legs😂

[@ChrisB...]

So humid that it's hard to roll J's because it sticks to your fingers. Thankful that dehumidifiers exist because otherwise it'd be bud rot city here.

[@markcantrall9923]

A lot of good points, but did you mention GENETICS ?

[@danny11908]

What up!

[@RookieBuds]

Keegan Michael Key (he was Obama's "hype man") and Jordan Peele

[@TreeSapLiquidLightShow]

plant with basil

[@TreeSapLiquidLightShow]

no reason to keep testing all of those formulas and mixtures. simply plant with basil. Companion planting

[@constant_evolution_genetic478]

It's not so much the studys haven't been done it's more a problem of people don't really know where to look for them, colleges and commercial facilities aren't the only places where science is being done, the thing that tought me this was the mycology game. There small groups of people that are getting really good funding to do proper science without bias, same thing with canna, just the people and canna society groups doing these aren't that well knows

[@BrianM-44041]

Battery backup power strips are a thing. Get you one of them sumbishes. Power outages happen. Ya boi got yer back 👍

[@BreathingSoma]

We uppit

[@lootbird]

you need a turbo charged engine with a big battery!! you cant do it with bottled fert... were talking about taste, not starch

[@Mike-uc4fs]

my boys 🐕‍🦺

[@MrBobbit666]

celsius weirdos metric system has been the norm for the normal people for a long long time

[@FarmerBrown420]

Love this show guys rob p mr g gota be a rap song

[@justinkuhn2584]

Also synthetics lot of time over look thing that are not essential like silica, diverse microbe populations.

[@justinkuhn2584]

Many many other compounds, minerals and elements as well.

[@thomascooley2749]

31:07 can confirm its a game of minimums And having long break down periods helps no keep things running with organic and if you know the plant you can hot rod that with salt making synganic You can also go the other way grow dots in soil with organic products as top feed A million ways to grow gotta find what works for you in your environment

[@welhungyongmancitywok8189]

5:26 the problem with people growing bad is because they are subscribed to the wrong channels, i recently seen some ocd guy with 90.000 subscribers straight messing up everything fiddling around with buckets that no serious grower would buy. His entire feed has burned plants in the thumbnail like crispy yellow messed up for real type of stuff.

[@michiganboy5151]

Anyone have a opinion on sofem genetics

[@TheSturdy1]

15:20 one thing when cars came out instead of making better breaks they started calling people who didn’t cross in the cross walks a derogatory word “jay” and advertised jay walkers in the newspaper

[@RedPillGrower]

✌️😎🔥🔥🔥

[@tuk6352]

Tough for me to get 60 60

[@juddrusnack4247]

Love these guys- stay away from the bro science, and speak objectively, without shiddy slang and not acting crazy with schtick… just drop knowledge with facts and REAL studies to back it up

[@AndresPerez-bm4rp]

You talk alot about enviroment but what about outdoor i live in spain and where i live there is alot of humidity and had some realñy tasty weed

[@dixielandproductionco.6989]

Someone say cannatrol, I just love mine and it works just like advertised and I will never dry my product any other way. It comes out Xtra smooth and perfect every time.

[@aaronwoodley9624]

🤟🤟🤟🤙🤙🤙🥏🥏🥏

[@joeymasterson4395]

That pic in the back is you 3 right? It’s sick! 👍🏼

[@diezelvh4133]

Get better strains.

[@untrainedastronaut]

👊😎👨‍🚀

[@crunchfishgames8245]

I wonder if these guys were this suspicious about the scientists and covid studies.

[@philcapenmsgamingsports]

Increase flavor grow organic easy...

[@rodvans6008]

Canadians do it better!

[@smm72]

Part of hydro vs organic debate is the amount of water given to hydro is significantly higher then soils. Some terpenes are water soluble therfore soil will be higher terpenes generally.

[@TheDankTank420]

Broticulturist 😅😅😅

[@anarchistgreg4689]

First five minutes.....Hey lets talk about ourselves

[@Taxskipper]

22:51 no way Rob is putting down citizen scientists. You don't need a degree, just the ability to back up what you say. Two Ls today Rob. Acting like companies won't manipulate data or lie for profit

[@fishingculture9125]

Yall had a good talk but the first 16 minutes you guys talk like for noobies and i think that if the person is super tight budget but have a 30$ light from amazon/china and has a tent for like 2long2wide and 5 tall just open the tent put a heater cones for hair and turn on sealing fan on 2 amd put a fan on a side of the room on low venting the room at the same time and the plant, if the plant moves and theres not too much cold air hitting the plant that will be perfect house needs to be like for growing lizards lol around 76 77 and get a fine hole spray bottle the more vaporish the better just spray water to the plant a few tomes a day just to get her humid and is going to be all good any insects just powder the plant with cinnamon and the soil.

[@martymcfly9342]

Everybody is harvesting early. Flower time means nothing

[@Gilky781]

45 mins in 2 seconds... buy good genetics lol