How to Haggle for a Used Motorcycle

[@LawnboyFanatic]

Why am I watching this.. I already bought the bike

[@needparalegal]

I second guess every purchase....

[@theophilis]

i just got my Ducati monster 696 and am planning on customizing it over the coming weeks, your channel is the first i think ive ever seen on youtube that i actually look FORWARD to the 16 + minute videos. you're informative as hell dude, and you're a freekin godsend to us newbie mechanics. thanks bro

[@laprepper]

The problem with buying anything used is the people always tend to think it's worth more than it is, especially things that don't run well or aren't running at all. Everybody thinks there's always someone out there who's willing to pick up their bike which sometimes is true. Just don't fall for that oh I got a couple other guys that are interested because that's kind of what everyone says, of course sometimes it's actually true so

[@digitalcitizen4533]

personally i'll buy and sell cars, im trying to get into bikes for fun. I dont get attached too the cars, so bottom dollar questions dont offend me as much, but if that's the way you haggle, thats how i haggle back. my response to "what's the least you'll take" is typically somthing along "depends, whats the most you'll pay" in a joking, but serious manner. it turns the table on them, so if their top dollar is more than your bottom, your good. if not, you can say "well i was looking to get more" and proceed to talk about why the car/item is worth more. if they don't wanna put their top dollar on the table like that, just say your looking to get the asking price, because really you are. or come down a little and work from there. Afterall the price of your item was enticing enough to get them there, they are not going to be shocked your looking close to asking price. my rule of thumb is always do research first and be reasonable with pricing. dont ask for too much if you know the item has alot of issues. but don't sell for too much less than what you honestly think it is worth. there are always plenty of buyers interested, unless if asking price is too high, in which case, refer to rule of thumb. just my take on selling, great tips for buying in the vid ;)

[@kitcarr4668]

@ Digital Citizen - lots of people ask the 'bottom dollar' question over the phone or in an email - my response to that is 'You can see the asking price, now you really need to come look at the car / bike and see how you value it - and if we're close enough we'll have a deal!'

[@legitsub4sub195]

Really glad you made sure every viewer understood the value of personal connection. Im 18 years old and I worked for 4 months to buy my first car for $2500 (a 92 RS Camaro) and traded if after 6 months for a 98 Honda SuperHawk. I got kicked out and was unemployed and was absolutely in love with my bike, however I didn't have money to even eat. A guy on Craigslist took complete and total advantage of that and haggled me down to $1500. It really made me feel like shit to get rid of it for so cheap, and now I see it every day cause the guy is my neighbor LOL

[@TheDatpussy]

Hahaha. Good luck on your next bike

[@kitcarr4668]

@Ugly ... sometimes you just have to SAY NO and wait for a better offer! But, once you sell, it's sold, it's gone, it's over and it's a total waste of your life to be looking back and even thinking of it any more! Part of negotiating involves keeping quiet about information that could be 'harmful to you' ... if you tell someone that you're desperate and have to sell the bike in order to eat ...well, lets just say it was a costly lesson? Be sure to learn from it and don't make it again! And seriously ... I'm saying this in a whole lot kinder / warmer tone that the writing might suggest! Best regards !

[@ross5506]

Ugly Shots karma is a bitch sometimes,he may go through hard times and you can give him half of what he offered you that is if it still nice condition.🏍

[@ComandanteJ]

420, perfect number. To pay for a SMOKING hot bike! LOL.

[@kiltedklown]

Just bought my first bike today thanks to this little vid, sweet little Honda Varadero, learner legal here in Scotland. Thanks!

[@MrJustdoit84]

Got a decent 81 CB750K this weekend and applied these rules. Before I probably would've asked the guy what his bottom dollar was, but you made valid points and it does seem like a jerk move. He orginally wanted $800 and I got it for $500 after offering $460. He had no emotional connection with the bike so I didn't feel too bad.

[@mrmaxstorey]

Right on sounds like a decent deal for both of you

[@pfunkinit]

I just used your techniques to negotiate a price and I have to say it was a much better experience than buying my first bike. I read the guys face (he was sad to let it go at that price) and decided to come up on my offer asking if he would feel better about that. as a result he accepted my initial offer of 65% of asking price. It also made me feel better about paying so little for a strong running ride ready machine.

[@TheOutofPocketRider]

This is a great "tutorial" for the new used bike purchaser. I feel like you were very forthright, honest and well-spoken. Bravo on teaching a buyer a level of sensitivity and respect for the trade of such a personal and meaningful vehicle. I know that selling my bike would be (and has been) one of the hardest things for me, and a kid (or man/woman) that seems to understand that and respect my love of the sport stands a much better chance of taking the bike, especially if I don't really want to part with it. Just overall a very good video and I had to offer you praise for it. Thanks for looking out for the newer buyers and riders and you, sir, ride safely. :)

[@mrmaxstorey]

Thanks for watching, friend

[@TheOutofPocketRider]

mrmaxstorey It was a great pleasure. :) Stay safe out there and keep that great moral compass you seem to have. It means a lot to some people.

[@kosta8817]

Thank you for this very informative and honest video. tomorrow i am going to check out a vx800 1991 that have been owned by a person for 15 years - i believe he is very connected to it.. Having seen your videos gave me some good ideas of how to approach to such a seller.

[@mrmaxstorey]

Great bike! I hope you both come to terms on it

[@kosta8817]

+mrmaxstorey hey man. checked the vx800 from the private owner but it wasn't in the condition i am looking for.. but i did found a very well renovated one in an agency near me.. i just had some thoughts though - do you think it is smart to buy an old first big bike? should i trust my life with an agency that fixed an old bike and wants to sell it? i am willing to work on it a little bit if needed. i am kinda split between my desire for the vx800 and thoughts about maybe getting a smaller size but newer and "safer" bike. what do you think? thanks in advance

[@mrmaxstorey]

You trust yourself with your life. Once you buy that bike, its up to you to make sure it is in good working condition, and stays that way. If you are a novice with motorcycle maintenance you hire someone to maintain it, if you want to learn yourself then you do it yourself. But whether you buy it from a company or from a craiglister, its up to you to trust yourself. You are the only person you can trust at the end of it all anyway.

[@Bilbus7]

Very informative video. I'll be using it for buying my first bike in a few weeks. Also your sense of humor is perfect lol.

[@EvilSandwiches]

Drink every time he says "Bottom Dollar"

[@rrz174]

I'm canceling my direct tv! Another fantastic video... You inspired me to tear down my 1979 Yamaha Chappy LB50. I know it's small potatoes but I wanted to start small. Honestly though, this is my new favorite tv station. You really should be on TV ,, I hope KZbin is paying you as a sponsor. Thank you so very much for sharing your knowledge. 420!

[@neverquit7190]

Good points. I've never been the "bottom dollar" kinda guy but I've never really thought about the big picture too. People want to be heard and appreciated. Ask about them and their relationship to the bike, watch body language, make a connection, then haggle softly. Instead of coming in like a turd and just asking bottom dollar. Good point.

[@willurban4996]

Another good tip is to look for a bike that is completely stock. Highly modified bikes usually have owners that are vary attached to the bike and less likely to give you a good price

[@ross5506]

This is a great video for beginners purchasing a motorcycle,If you really like the machine and the owner has taking well care of his pride and joy make him feel good about his bike as you said. A lot of good information you have given. My first Street bike was 1975 H1 500 I've always purchased Kawasaki's" I bleed green" now my hopefully last new bike is ZX14 turbocharged. I do look for older Kawasaki's superbikes as I now collect them, getting a 1985 GPz 750 turbo in very good condition theirs almost know talking them down,since I would like get one. Greetings from Canada.

[@FirstLightAdv]

When I bought my GPZ900 I told the seller that I appreciated his bike and am willing to drive 10 hrs to get it, no haggling. He was quite impressed and took off $200 of the asking price! Hence it is a bike which I really cherish now

[@billsmeets1122]

"fourtwenty, perfect number. my favorite number" right back at you man

[@62corvette1]

I came across your video just by luck. I'm glad I did. I'm looking to purchase another used bike and I was that "bottom dollar" guy. By watching your video I learned that you never really know where people are coming from in a deal until you TALK. Thanks!

[@mrmaxstorey]

Cool glad you found the video helpful

[@yaelmassey899]

Haha 420 is a great number too. Too funny.

[@JohnMirror2]

I would totally buy a bike from you Max! You seem very honest!

[@badboypl3]

BOttom Dollar Bottom Dollar!

[@mrmaxstorey]

Savagery

[@torque63]

When someone asks what is my bottom dollar, I respond make an offer and I will let you know if you are anywhere close. I don't sell a bike to break even.

[@kipster-ll6po]

I don't think you really addressed this particular point, but when someone is selling something at a "steal" of a price, I don't believe in attempting to negotiate them lower. I think that is low-class and offensive and being a huge tightwad.

[@james123456754]

Really useful video. The way you haggle is just about the exact same way I do buying and selling bikes on craigslist. I could pretty much finish your sentences because it's that close, but great video! And I absolutely hate when people ask what my bottom dollar is, especially when they haven't even seen the bike in person

[@mrmaxstorey]

I know right that drives me crazy

[@petev123456789]

Lol i really liked this one man Ive been watching all your vids cuz its raining and shitty in MN and Ive been working but Im starting on my bike tommorow. Me n the guy I bought it from were both playing a poor me angle with my janky ass minivan/trailer and his storage unit that had been broken into. I asked and got 1st offer just over 10% off an already great deal and we both left happy. Im glad I didn't low ball dude woulda walked or I woulda felt shitty. ur charts kick ass! thanks

[@walkerrog25]

Told my wife that you came over here in 2005 and she reminded me that we popped over to Boston, New England in May of the same year for our first anniversary. We just had a week in that big windy city but it was great. We went to check out saalem one day and I swear I saw my mother-in-law cackle cackle cackle :)

[@MrNpkellogg]

Thank you...You presented some good points, so if I can find a good bike to buy, I'll remember this video .

[@laprepper]

It's really interesting that he brings up the cultural differences and negotiation because they definitely exist, especially looking at differences between Eastern Western styles, and some cultures that negotiation doesn't start until you're ready to walk away from the deal which is sort of contrary to the American version.

[@salami99]

420...his favorite number...

[@MuzzleMike]

@mrmaxstorey Nothing You really need .LOL Just a Starter , Would not have been bed but it is a 82 and they did not have a kicker . A left driver foot beg , all mounting hardware for the right front brake ( which I have yet to get ) , Air box cover and filter , the stater cover and all hard ware you have to remove to get to the starter . It also had a fried wiring harness . It still turned over by hand and had compression so I thought it would be worth scrap if rebuilding failed .

[@theophilis]

honestly man, im STILL looking through your vids and i found your channel about an hour and a half ago. fuckin, talk about a wealth of knowledge

[@magaz97j]

I sell new and used cars and I really do not think bikes are much different. 1) Take the time to understand the owner and why they are selling.2) Appraise the bike from -car from the standpoint reason- what does it need and the cost it will take. 3) Express your concerns and be practical to the seller. 4) When you make your offer you will now have leverage and can justify your offer and a deal can be made much easier. " What's your bottom dollar isn't relevant anymore that sounds more like what old people used to say.

[@onetwothree4148]

Never make personal appeals to the old heart strings unless you are sure you are dealing with someone who is unusually compassionate. If you tell most people you used to have an identical bike when you were a kid, you're also telling them that their bike is worth more to you than it is to most people, and you would pay more for it if you had to. Same goes for a seller trying to squeeze a few dollars more out of a buyer by saying they are going through hard times. You're also telling the buyer that you can't wait as long as you should for other offers, and might have to sell for less.

[@mushroomhead1216]

gonna use this when I go look at a bike tomorrow (hopefully) its a 1982 SUZUKI GS650L for $850, gone be my first bike and plan on making a project out of it

[@dantheman6962000]

I bought my 95 magna last month. we emailed a few times he was asking a grand for the bike. I drove 45 mins to look at the bike cash in hand got their and the bike didnt run and the forks are bent and missing the right mirror. I told the guy $500 cash is all im willing to spend and now I own my first bike.

[@robertlaurengoetz7346]

I use one of two methods for my purchasing of bikes. I will either pitch that I am financially strapped and can pay X - if you want your bike sold quick... I would love to buy it and restore or treat it well (not true because I am parting it out). This will win the seller over if they have that emotional attachment and might make them feel good to give someone a "deal". My other method is "I have cash today - what would you take for it?" If they are asking $500 and will take $400 - I'll respond with "I was thinking $300 because that is all I can swing and I really want it" This works 70% of the time - if not, I'll get the bike for $350 all day long. I deal with parts bikes so this is a little different beast - if they have such an emotional attachment to a parts bike... it would have already been fixed.' Good Video though - different strokes for different folks Just don't ever come to buy a bike and start picking it apart - I've had many bikes and vehicles that people have tried to haggle by pointing out all the negatives. I will not sell anything to a jerk and have turned down very nice offers from people who just tried too hard.

[@greattom12]

Thanks for the video! Really helped me get the price down on my first motorcycle.

[@chocolatethunder259]

i couldn't have found this video at a better time lol much needed info

[@lauriejennifer]

Great vlog. I sold my first scooter only because I was getting a Ninja 250. I cried on the phone when the insurance adjuster told me my Ninja 250 was a total loss (no salvage buy-backs aloud in Illinois). I will never, ever sell my KLX250. It may be up on a stand right now. It may need a lot of work (wear and tear from epic wear and tear), but it's still my baby. I had a nightmare that I traded it for a Ducati and woke in a cold sweat. True story. Nice visual aid, as usual. :)

[@yaelmassey899]

Great points man. Glad you put up the video.

[@mrmaxstorey]

@discipleofhate That price is actually fairly middle of the road for Bandit 400's. In my opinion they have a slightly higher asking price than their contemporaries not because they are better bikes but because they are more rare. If you are set on a decent Bandit 400, then you may have to pay that much for it. However if you are just looking for an early-90s small displacement sport bike, then there are plenty of other options.

[@mrmaxstorey]

Well its up to you really. One time an old lady was trying to sell me a bike for $1500, I ended up paying $200 after pointing out all that was wrong and all that needed to be invested in it. Point is, you never really know where people are coming from in a deal, and if you are stuck at $300, you're better off letting the seller know straight up instead of waffling around on it. Ninjas arent that rare, if you don't end up making a deal, you'll find another one soon enough

[@tiffanyzinman2152]

Great information, I am on my way to try this out......

[@mrmaxstorey]

@MrChrisb93 I actually do have a shim-style valve adjustment video planned and in the works, I gotta fix the cam guides on my wife's bike so I figured I would just do it while I was in there. That one should go up in March some time. As for the piston rings, I don't really have any bikes right now that are smoking or have low compression, and thats the kind of project that I gotta show, rather than just talk about. Look around on youtube tho, there are other videos on it

[@RegurgitateEucharist]

when you fixed the arrow at 11:59, i subscribed because you read my mind about how it was bugging me

[@mrmaxstorey]

Everything in its right place

[@mrmaxstorey]

Awesome thanks for watching!

[@petev123456789]

yep saw it after but it definitely resonated with me. thanks again

[@MuzzleMike]

Good video ! I can relate to some of it . My Kz was on Craigslist for 3 months and the guy kept dropping the price . I went to look at the bike and when I got there it looked like it came out of a savage yard after sitting for 29 years . He did put some money into it but still was missing a lot of parts . I hated to kick the guy in the teeth but It looked like scrap . I ended up paying $250 for it and had another 600 before it would even run .

[@formegolf]

What's up Max...Good video as always. I agree with everything you say especially treating people with respect. Respect goes a long way even if you won't see the person again it just leaves both a good feeling after it's over. Keep it up buddy and take care... Mark

[@mrmaxstorey]

Awesome man, thats what I like to hear. Nicely done

[@lma2256]

Great video as always Max. My point of view in the question, "What's your lowest price?" is, Okay $3000usd is your listed price. I only have $2500usd available NO MORE. My reason for the question is, I don't know you. Are you saying "$3000 is my price I'm not moving." Also, it there a seasonal difference? Do prices in 'snowy wintry' areas automatically drop at the end of the riding season?

[@hilohahoma1547]

Much thanks bro, best advice based on good faith and savvy I've seen yet. Just looked at a bike yesterday that I had to walk away from because of sketchy surroundings and people. Thanks again. Say do you have a vid on used bike checklist do's and don'ts when buying a used bike ?

[@mrmaxstorey]

Hiloha'homa Yeah check out my video series on how to buy a used motorcycle

[@hilohahoma1547]

Thanks wil do

[@frankiebpr]

Your theory is a good one but can be applied to most purchases like boats, cars, airplanes

[@JeffNoel]

One thing to note is that if you purchase the bike from an individual and not a shop, people tend to lower hteir price way more easily: they need to pay the bills !

[@mrmaxstorey]

@spelunkerd Kind of, but KBB isnt very accurate for vintage bikes. What I do is do a nationwide search for the make, model, and year bike on craigslist, get an average asking price for similar bikes in similar condition, and then subtract about 15% from that. That determines market value for me. You can also get on the forum for your bike and see what other owners think their bikes are worth, that is usually pretty accurate too.

[@mrmaxstorey]

@walkerrog25 I lived in London for about a year back in 2005, and took the tube everywhere I had to go. Once I took a lady and we rented a little VW Golf and drove out to Bath to check out the countryside... even tho the gas cost quite a bit that drive was entirely worth it. Yeah London and England in general is a pretty pricey area of the world to be, but damn do I miss it.

[@Michiganborn1969]

2 thumbs up Max. Too bad you didn't have this video out back in October when I sold my Maxim for almost 1/2 of my original asking price but I kinda felt sorry for this kid b/c he was staying out of a homeless shelter (I've been there done that) and he said his grandpa had passed away just a few days before. So what's done is done. Where you broke out the graph & explaining thing it almost started sounding like an episode of Pawn Stars.

[@mrmaxstorey]

@MuzzleMike Right on, doesnt sound like anything too difficult

[@mrmaxstorey]

Awesome glad you found it useful and entertaining

[@panda6548]

4:07 AWKWARD as all hell

[@bhargavk2004]

question: I tried to haggle and I got hit with, "I have four more offers"..what do you do in that situation?

[@nickcontreras2025]

You tell him you’re a buyer right now. Tell him his offers is up In the air the moment you leave, and if it doesn’t workout he’ll be sitting with it for who knows how long. And reiterate you’re buying it right now. Works for me

[@NorthFloridaMan]

Love the visual aid

[@coloricanking]

Thank you so much. I've been waiting for this

[@mrmaxstorey]

@mase115 Bringing the book value of a bike to the attention of the seller is an effective bargaining strategy, but I would get the time to know the bike and the man first. It might have upgrades which justify the price. Getting someone to drop from 24-1200 is tough, he might be the kind of guy content to wait until someone comes along who is willing to pay his asking price, in which case you might be SOL. If you like the bike, go see it, and see what you can learn.

[@spelunkerd]

When you work in the field as you do, it's easy to know what things are worth. But as an amateur, the hardest thing is to actually know what things are worth. I guess ebay and craigslist are your friend when it comes to that. But the prices listed there are asking price. Is there a motorcycle database that lists selling value for various bikes (like a blue book for autos)?

[@mrmaxstorey]

I dunno man, never bought a bike from a dealer. They have a whole different set of priorities than private sellers. Mainly, they gotta eat too selling new bikes is their job, so its much harder I would assume to appeal to their emotional attachment to the bike.

[@brendawilcox7495]

Found CL ad for a 73 CB500 for 750. Says it needs to be restored but only missing front brake caliper. Hasn't tried to run it and hasn't pulled carbs but says that can turn the motor with footcrank. I definitely don't want to rip him off, but I don't want to be ripped off either. I'm new to bikes (but won't let him know that). What would seem to be a fair price for the both of us?

[@mrmaxstorey]

Unless the thing is in exceptional cosmetic condition, thats a bit high. Id go more towards $500

[@usernamemykel]

Why haggle (persistent bargaining) when you could negotiate (obtain or bring about by discussion, reach an agreement or compromise by discussion)?

[@mrmaxstorey]

Why comment (type some shit in a box) when you can condescend (show feelings of superiority, patronize)?

[@usernamemykel]

@@mrmaxstorey Apparently, you have had no education in professional sales and negotiation skills, and feel that I'm dumping on you, which I am not. I'm just saying that there are better ways to obtain a win-win outcome without haggling. Haggling is common in less civilized environs. Haitians who arrive in the USA are fun to watch at garage sales, from which they are usually shooed away for their aggressive manner.

[@mrmaxstorey]

@@usernamemykel Condescending and racist, you sound like a lot of fun at parties and other environs

[@usernamemykel]

@@mrmaxstorey I don't joust with those who have toothpicks in lieu of lances. Bye, bye.

[@mrmaxstorey]

​@@usernamemykel Okie doo have a great day

[@mrmaxstorey]

@keyblade2121 Well dude it all depends on when you arrive. We are moving to California in August, and Im selling pretty much all the bikes before then. Where are you going to school?

[@MrBoygenis]

say but im here with cash money in my hand

[@SparksMagoo]

Yo... My cousin Vinny helps me buy all my bikes. I make an offer and if the seller say's no, Vinny puts the guy or his wife into a headlock until such time they say yes. Then it is simply a matter of paperwork. This haggle stuff is for the sentimental types.......

[@keyblade2121]

@mrmaxstorey I would probably get down there in the summer, say like July or something close to that. But again, it may not happen. There is just a film school there I am really interested in, but it all depends on if i get accepted/scholarships/etc. Haha

[@JewTube001]

I hate it when the first thing they mail/ring/say is "whats your lowest price?" I usually say it's a million dollars.

[@mrmaxstorey]

@MuzzleMike Right on, what was missing from it?

[@mrmaxstorey]

See thats totally what Im talking about. I don't mind guys kicking the tires, but if someone wants to come over and tell me my bike is shit to get a better deal on it, they arent going to get very far with me

[@SeeingSebastian]

exceptionally helpful

[@Michiganborn1969]

@mrmaxstorey Yeah, my main goal was just to simply get rid of the bike. My only concern is come in a few months when I get a registration renewal letter from the DMV b/c this kid never registered it in his name. Also on the title as a favor to him I put down as a gift so he didn't get hit with the tax. I hope that don't come back to bite me ether. But I did get him to sign a receipt though but I should had him put down more then just his name on the receipt. CYA

[@mrmaxstorey]

Stay firm, cash in front of you is worth a lot more than a promise of cash

[@mrmaxstorey]

@dagazkid Yeah, ebay isnt really too conducive to haggling. Basically you just bid, which is why I dont buy bikes from ebay

[@keyblade2121]

Hey man, great tips here. I may be going to college as a sophomore in Florida next fall. And because gas is getting crazy expensive... I was thinking about getting another bike. I may have to sell mine when i move. So if that does happen, is there any possible chance that I can get something from you? I would like to, just so i can show my appreciation for your vids, they have helped me out alot haha.

[@rlRACECAR]

How do you set a price on a custom restored bike? Such as a cafe or bobber.

[@goodboyringo9716]

If I have given a good deal on the price I have set there would be no haggling room so haggling would set me off.

[@mrmaxstorey]

Hmm I dont know but the salesman would have to be a damn good haggler

[@mrmaxstorey]

@Michiganborn1969 Lol I get a lot of good feedback from my visual aids, I like to incorporate them if I can. Sounds like you did a good thing selling at the price you did. Sometimes milking a buyer for every last dollar shouldnt be the main goal.

[@nonstop10is]

only worth 300 dollars if I was going to be satisfied. At this point it almost felt insulting to offer 300 dollars but I had no choice. he lowered to five hundred dollars. Now we are waiting to see if he can get the bike started. Is it fair that my partner and I keep offering 300 dollars or should we just end the trade and wish him luck?

[@garyyu2220]

Excellent video. Learned a lot from this and pretty much agree with everything. I feel like i should have been more patient when I bought my second bike. Next time....

[@walkerrog25]

Right on this Max. It's pretty much the same in England though I think bikes are slightly more expensive for some reason I can't grasp. I'm sure I live in the rip off centre of the universe! High petrol prices, high road tax, high insurance, and very modest wages ggggrrrrr curse those politicians! Don't you agree that the genuine folks stick out a mile?

[@Eagle-ex6qm]

What source do you use to actually give you an idea what a bike is worth? NADA, Kelly? other? THanks

[@mrmaxstorey]

I do a nationwide craigslist search and average the asking prices

[@Eagle-ex6qm]

interesting...Thx

[@Eagle-ex6qm]

So, that price is what you will expect to sell it or flip it for right? Example I have a guy selling a 2011/ VL800 (C-50T) Suzuki 2190 Miles said "bottom line" is $3500. I have seen this bike w similiar miles and year on CL and Cycle trader (private sellers) from 4300-6400. I feel like if I could get it at 3k I should be good.

[@mrmaxstorey]

Yeah that would be a good deal. Remember that craigslist prices generally settle for about 15% less than asking price, so what you are proposing isnt unreasonable, unless of course 3500 really is his firm price

[@Eagle-ex6qm]

Thanks for all that info! I will post the final outcome.

[@discipleofhate]

I'm looking at a 91 Bandit gsf400... It is in good shape, has 11xxxmiles on it. all stock but has the original CDI box on it that are expensive to fix when they go out... He is asking 2grand for it. I know it's not worth that, but what area should I be looking at price wise?

[@adamds4400]

max, I have major cooling issues on my 2 stroke 50cc air cooled engine, smoke also comes from the engine have you got any ideas? I checked the air filter (foam) and it was black with a few tears on the edge so I am buying replacement, any information would be useful thanks

[@mrmaxstorey]

+DS Gamer What makes you think its overheating? And where is the smoke coming from

[@mase115]

Hey man great video! Quick question for ya. I'm looking at a bike that is 14 yo and books for 1200-1900 in excellent condition and they are asking 2400. How do I approach that? the guy I spoke with in the phone sounded like an older man and the bike is a sport bike so I was thinking it was maybe his sons or something but that's just speculation. Any advice where to start?

[@SomethingPrettyNew]

thanks man, great advice!

[@discipleofhate]

@mrmaxstorey I'm willing to pay that if I have to... That was the first bike I ever wanted as a kid... even before I fell for Cafe Racers lol... Thanks for the input!

[@mrmaxstorey]

@jkrlabonte I do a nationwide craigslist search for similar bikes, and set my asking price in the middle

[@nebtwins505]

Quick question max. Should you pay over KBB for a used bike?

[@mrmaxstorey]

KBB bears no relevance for used motorcycles. Sometimes its high, sometimes its low

[@ReassuringSmile]

Would you recommend haggling for a used motorcycle at a dealer?

[@MuzzleMike]

@mrmaxstorey No Max but I made Ebay my friend and made it mostly all together .

[@LiveToRidee]

haha indeed my friend! but i'm desperate to sell it i had it posted for $1,200 much more than I paid. I paid $500 for a non working scooter which was easily fixed with a new battery sparkplug and an oil change. So my 'bottom dollar' is pretty low but i want an actual motorcycle more than anything haha

[@loganorin]

What about haggling with a dealer??