How to handle toxic fumes from 3D resin printing: featuring Anycubic M3 Premium and Photon Mono X2

[@abovewongart]

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[@Dtr146]

Buddy of mine got a bunch of resin printers. He didn't ventilate the room that they were in well enough. He said he got the worst headache ever walking in there after a night of printing

[@abovewongart]

I could see that happening. I went through that at first. I used the printers in my bedroom and after the first print, I realized it's probably not safe for my breathing.

[@ZFGFZDGDFG]

@@abovewongart errrm i might be doing this rn

[@SpaceSpuddd]

Learning that today after my first print 😅

[@MATTW3R]

Carbon filters don’t actually clean any of the toxicity of the toxic fumes. It just removes the smell which can lead to overall higher concentrations of toxic fumes

[@DomMass-s3v]

Exactly. There's tons of reviews saying to stay away from them and not to buy them and to just get a well ventilated area cause apparently the filters don't work for jack ish. I was going to buy them until I read all the reviews.

[@Kanieos]

Carbon Filters can reduce VOCs (the toxic stuff) in the air, it just needs a lot more carbon than in these small filters.

[@temporaltribe]

​@@Kanieos Thats why he has the levoit that outside the printer. He probably has a Toxin Absorber Core, which is way more effective at removing VOCs

[@polycrystallinecandy]

This is not true, activated carbon removes VOCs. But you should build one of the open source ones which have more carbon and airflow and replace the carbon every 2-4 weeks. You can buy carbon pellets in bulk.

[@MrWylwy]

Carbon filters don't remove the hurtful stuff, just the odor, be careful.

[@CoFRTheGamerXxX]

Sure they do. Elegoo literally makes a giant filter to connects the the plastic hoods, it filters VOCs and it’s just a activated carbon filter. Nothing fancy. It’s just those small filters need to be on for a lot longer then the printer to do their job

[@aartadventure]

Incorrect. People have used devices that measure VOCs (volatile organic compounds), and found the same amount of VOCs are present when using a carbon filter (your nose just can't smell it as much). You can search a bunch of examples on KZbin of this.@@CoFRTheGamerXxX

[@demijebus6831]

​@CoFRTheGamerXxX this is false. There are several youtubers explaining why carbon filters are not enough.

[@CoFRTheGamerXxX]

@@demijebus6831 Uh huh... you go ahead and Sue Elegoo for billions than :P

[@spammerscammer]

​@CoFRTheGamerXxX the carbon filters only filter out the smell. The harmful VOCs are way smaller than the filters can filter out.

[@GlerpidyGlarson]

Respirator added to shopping list for next payday. Also I'll be doing mine mostly in my garage.

[@abovewongart]

That's a great space for the printers

[@NAmeansNotAttendingfinals]

What Respirator did you get? I've been looking at so many have bad reviews, I'm not trying to go blind or die. lmao

[@Gregowolves]

Hello, I'm new. I have in my garage but I'm concerned about other people walking through. Is there a need to vent the space so people can walk through normally to do laundry?

[@GlerpidyGlarson]

@@Gregowolvesfan

[@logangatlin]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@NAmeansNotAttendingfinals 3M 6006 is 3Ms cartridge that removes the most VOCs (the harmful gasses we are concerned about with resin printing) there is also a more expensive cartridge that also removes airborne dust as well (60926). As far as the actual mask goes you just need something that will fit you well and has a good seal. Personally I have the 3M 6200 and am happy with it. Edit: just realized this is a 3mo old post but I’m leaving this comment as it’s may still be helpful.

[@CowliCreations]

Ideally you want a hepa filter that filters down to 0.01 microns as the particles are this small. You can also build a simple ventilation system. I have a video on my channel for anyone interested!

[@rj7855]

Much better is to use an extraction fan to the outside

[@JoseeHanma]

what about a full on air purifier? is it on par?

[@givenfool6169]

@@JoseeHanma if your going air purifier route, you really need to hook it up directly with a duct vent. And if you're doing that, I'd recommend just getting an inline fan and pumping it out, don't take the risk. Air purifiers work at a much lower cleansing rate than just pumping it somewhere else.

[@7UDRO]

that thing does just help to keep clean the axle. I clean it for a 1/100 of the device's price

[@innocuous_name7212]

If I am not mistaken, carbon filters don't actually address the toxicity...only the odor.

[@kristenransom6963]

I love how clean our uv cover is. The photon m3 was my first printer and its a little grub now haha

[@abovewongart]

Omg yes for filming I spray and clean it often with FRESH IPA and a micofiber cloth

[@demijebus6831]

Go into any shop and you will not find carbon air scrubbers. You will find ventilation units cycling the entire volume of the buildings air every few minutes or hour. I recommend having your resin printer in a place that is capable or can be made capable of doing that.

[@quashmonkey]

You aren't doing enough to remove the fumes, you need very good ventilation such as a vacuum hood at a minimum

[@yesnobutyes]

I dont think he cares

[@jdmdc5r048]

Ive found that those little anycubic airpure filters dont really help much. I have my printer inside a small grow tent with a charcoal filter

[@svenjones4371]

Carbon filters only filter the odor. As far as an air purifier, I don't know., would seem they wouldn't because it produces a gas and I don't know if filters can absorb fumes. I have a Ventilation system that draws it out my window directly out of the back of the printer. The smell still comes from the cleaning. But I am outfitting the shed for 3d printing because of fume concerns and my family.

[@envynemo4170]

having the printer in an enclosure that has an VAC system connected to it to vent outside is also an good idea too

[@HighlineGuitars]

I had to abandon resin printing as it was triggering respiratory issues and repeated migraine headaches. Masks, gloves, and industrial ventilation help, but those toxins still get into your body. I predict a major class action lawsuit against the resin printing industry and they know it because they are preparing for it.

[@The3Dprintinggeek448]

Make sure that your sucking air through the mask not air coming from the gaps that might help pretend it is Covid again

[@mr.finkle4677]

Yeah ok buddy

[@pierremartin9421]

@@HighlineGuitars I have the same impression.. i'me recovering of my first 5prints.

[@wilurbean]

HEPA filters are for particles Resin printers make VOCs You're not filtering anything with the cylinder filter

[@abovewongart]

How do you know?

[@meatsmell8639]

What filters do you recommend for VOCs?

[@ivannikolic6738]

@@meatsmell8639hepa

[@demijebus6831]

​@@meatsmell8639none, you need proper ventilation and ppe.

[@CowliCreations]

You want a HEPA filter that filters Vocs down to 0.001 microns since this is how small the particles get from our printers... Check out my ventilation system also on my channel which is a great way to remove the fumes...

[@brianbang6985]

I bought those recently, where do you find the models to hold them

[@Shrouded_reaper]

That crap doesnt work. For the same price or less as an aliexpress air "purifier" you can get yourself a grow tent with extractor fan and flexi duct to stick out a window.

[@MotoMUSEUM]

this is not close to good enough for safety. These filters actually have 0 effect! the fumes from these resins are extremely toxic and carcerogenous. I've invested almost 3x times as much in ventilation than in printed and other hardware.

[@jtm6186]

I just hold my breath.

[@wodansam75]

i usually just hold my crotch while saying "you cant hurt me"

[@DarkNeko9989]

peel that darn manufactures sticker off the top of that fan\filter.

[@redmask1356]

tbh, the ravioli made the whole video for me

[@abovewongart]

Tysm

[@bananogamer6972]

Don't mean to be annoying or what, but "ravioli" it's the plural form. If it's a singular one it's called "raviolo"

[@abovewongart]

For reals? Ty for telling me

[@mtb0519]

Open the windows 🤦‍♂️

[@ghguyrur7]

I made an exhaust that vents outside

[@TheFreestyleStorm]

That's not doing anythings

[@JammedProductions]

Is it okay to be breathing in the fumes and touching the resin because I’ve been very unsafe with it and idk if that’s bad

[@magicstar9154]

Homie you gotta wear gloves and a respirator at minimum

[@JammedProductions]

@@magicstar9154 ok well I wear gloves but don’t have a respirator just masks

[@joshuagarza7884]

Yoooo the x2 has a spot for them inside?

[@Felixst4]

Does the filter come with the printer? And how is the smell after printing a model? I hope it significantly reduces it

[@emackenzie]

Some printers come with a carbon filter, but not all. I have a Saturn 2 and don't really smell the resin at all if the case is on it

[@quantummandavid]

Those filters are crap. You need exhaust to outside and fresh inlet of airflow. Put outlet strong and near printers.

[@abovewongart]

How do you know? Carbon filter works great

[@omegadeepblue1407]

​​@@abovewongarti think he saw a recent video from youtuber maker tales where he analyzes the quality of the air and that by itself the carbon filters does not work, you also need a way to heavy ventilate the space you are printing and guide the fumes to the outside.

[@Toonio-mk5ou]

For anyone starting out. I have a photon mono 4k printer with 2 charcoal filters in there (similair to in the vid but i bought them extra) do not AND I REPEAT do not skip on ventilation an open window is not enough. U might get away with puting it in the garage but even then ventilation is important. I do not have much space so it sits behind me in my working area where i am every day for extended periods of time. And the only thing keeping me remotely safe is those filters. I advice you to invest in some filters and if u got the space make some kind of filtration system where the fumes are vented outside. And wear gloves and a respirator. I know i am saying commong things but i have known people to not have any filters and have it next to animal enclosures etc. Resin is a toxic material so treat it as such

[@abovewongart]

noice

[@aartadventure]

The filters only remove the smell. The VOCs (the toxic volatile organic compounds) are still present. Sorry.

[@Toonio-mk5ou]

​@@aartadventuregenuine question tho are you sure about that since it does use a charcoal filter. Air filters that use a hepa filter are used to remove Tiny particles from the air. If u do have more info on this could you redirect me.

[@RocktracksSC]

@@Toonio-mk5ou kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJvLnouwq8esnKM This video goes into it. It appears so, although VOC meters aren't perfect either. Best to actively vent out a window rather than relying on filtration.

[@AlanisonYT]

@user-ev7id5bu2wI also want to know this 😭

[@pixelpuppy]

I keep my airbrush spray booth and resin printer in a dedicated room. When it's time to print, I turn on the fan to the spray booth to vent it outside. Before entering the room, I wear a respirator. Take no chances.

[@Guy_Sandler]

Will I be fine if I use the carbon filters, an external filter, and a n95 mask?

[@SLA-3D]

I’d suggest something different. Get an inline activated charcoal filter used for grow houses. Hook up the suction part to the back of your resin printer. My VOC’s went to practically zero when I did this

[@prankmastereight]

Oh that's why I get tear gassed whenever I print lol

[@derpcoco623]

still has a strong fume with all those filters. best to go outside or build yourself another encloser

[@jack0cat]

There are hardly any fumes I don’t know what resin you are using but I have three in my print room and I tell you that there are zero fumes you can smell a little bit but it’s almost nonexistent. Your exaggerations potentially will make someone not get a resin printer.

[@abovewongart]

Ummm fumes be strong AF

[@metalcokatoo6178]

Fumes doesn't have to stink in order to be toxic!

[@jack0cat]

@@metalcokatoo6178 Otay 👍👌

[@drewoftheinternet]

"Fumes/Smells" aren't the same thing as the cancer-causing VOCs. You're obviously not educated on this stuff, so before you print more, you may want to do some more research.

[@CowliCreations]

This isn't true! When working with any liquid resin or plastics they always give off fumes. Even if you can't smell anything you will be breathing in Vocs (Volatile organic compounds) it's very important you take this stuff seriously as it can seriously impact your health. Any less, is just naivety I'm afraid! Please take this stuff seriously guys, it is already proven to be potentially carcinogenic. This doesn't mean don't get into printing, just take the relevant precautions!

[@the.other.ian.]

i want to eat that ravioli

[@abovewongart]

Thank you so much

[@SpaceGringos3D]

Smells bad, but tastes amazing 👻

[@jasminelove2550]

Glad to know my Levoilt will be good enough. 👍🏾

[@elsmokoloko3597]

But how toxic is it really? I don't get lung irritation, but I can't find any information about long-term health consequences. Currently I just wear gloves and glasses but if you know of any long term affects breathing these fumes I might change my approach.

[@abovewongart]

smoking cigarettes was healthy activity till 30 years later people started dying. Maybe in a couple more years we will find out more of the effects. Till then I'm taking my chances. It's either 3d printing or meth to kill boredom for me.

[@meatsmell8639]

​@abovewongart Funnily enough, the safety equipment for both, is rather similar, and so is the potential clientele! 🤣

[@Masterofnone808]

I just purchased the same printer you do. I’m just curious because I’ve been getting a lotta miss prints can you share with me your settings just so I can have a starting point and adjust from there. Thanks

[@abovewongart]

Check out my slicing tutorials on my channel

[@jonkendrick89]

It's probably temps. Not only does it need to be warm, it needs to stay warm. You may be experiencing heat loss in many ways. Your resin, vat, platform, screen, base, and z arm all have different temps. Also the air inside your printer may be too great in variety from your resin and when the platform breaks the surface and the air touches the print and buildplate for the first time, your resin and plate may be contracting too quickly.

[@jbabs4801]

Theres a Eco UV resin I use by Anycubic which is low odor and combine with the carbon filters leaves little odor to worry about. I am also a person whose sensitive to smell and getting headaches from it so this stuff helps me out

[@waveril5167]

btw it's not the odor that is bad, it's the micro particles that are still there, also in odor less

[@toddkuznitz3629]

@@waveril5167yeah if anything I’d rather have the odor so I know if i need to crack open another window

[@SeanSchwifty]

Enjoy those fumes 😂 Whether you’re inside or outside-the world we live in is full of harmful chemicals that we can’t avoid. You can thank the corporate model for it too 😅

[@lordgrape5015]

Hol up... any cubic has an 8k now?

[@abovewongart]

They have a 12 k now too. I'll printing with it soon

[@lordgrape5015]

@@abovewongart Just checked it out and WOW! I got my 6k for 700a and they are selling this that's faster and 12k for 499. Gonna have an upgrade soon.

[@leodoctorcomputer415]

Fumes?? Its a fake story.. the uv process not result on a fumes dude.. the propose of the fan inside of enclosure its only to infest your room of bed smell.

[@CowliCreations]

This is very naive. Please, please do your due diligence and research the subject...

[@CRAIGYMAN64]

Please forgive my ignorance on this, but here's what I've done and I'd like to know if you think it's good enough. I have the AnyCubic M3 Premium I have an enclosure that this will be going into, and it'll be in my garage with the air duct running out the side vent near the floor. Of course I also have the charcoal filters. I got two toddlers, and I don't want to take any chance of getting them or my wife sick. Do you think this is enough or should I be taking more precaution? Hopefully I'm just being paranoid, I went with water washable resin only as well to keep from the living room reaping of IPA and hopefully any fumes since it's right near my garage. Anyways, thank you so much for you time in advance love your channel!

[@abovewongart]

That sounds like a really great setup idea. I just use a carbon small filter in the room that I keep the printers

[@Gooffau]

Doing gods work

[@drewoftheinternet]

Misinformation is god's work? Lmao

[@smokerdjoker2]

First

[@abovewongart]

First certified 🏆

[@NibNa5ty]

Read the msds of the resins. They arent that bad for humans

[@cesarleylim]

I have being printing and I don’t use none of that I haven’t smell any fumes and I have the same anycubic photon 4k

[@abovewongart]

Did you maybe get covid?

[@omegadeepblue1407]

Ese compa ya esta muertooooooooo, nomas no le han avisado.