How To Heavy Top And French Stitch Upholstery

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[@dans_Learning_Curve]

Grew up around an upholstery shop. Never knew about the numbers for thread sizes! Learned something! Yes, I grew up around a shop, I know how to run a sewing machine, and I have the one my dad used. However I haven't done much precision sewing. I want to sew the seats in my late father's 1958 Plymouth Suburban. Car in my profile picture. Need some practice. Oh, I'm featuring this car on a playlist.

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Dans, I think that is a wonderful thing you are doing for your father's '58 Suburban. You will do just fine. Please keep liking and watching!

[@deankay4434]

I love technique 576, for locking your French stitch before starting. Turning with needle down is now something I will not forget as I do mine. I will say the my Juki lock stitch is jealous of your walking foot and size 8 stitch length. I talked it, my machine and it feels better about being slightly inferior! Thanks kindly for this lesson and for you sharing!

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Dean, You are so welcome! Yep, good 'Ol technique #576. Thanks for hanging in there with me. Please keep liking and watching!

[@jseal21]

I never knew the name of that stich. Its a lot nicer of a name than "the blue jean inseam stich". Good stuff 👍

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Jseal, Thank you so much! I think Levi's Strauss has that trademark. Just sayin', Please keep liking and watching!

[@michaelcox8702]

I love how you do the beginning and ending of your french stretch.

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Michael, Thank you so much for saying so! Maybe you can try it? Please keep liking and watching!

[@xfactorautomotive1496]

Great video. I tried your tip from a previous video about not back stitching on a French stitch. It worked great and definitely does look much better. I only wish I would have seen this video before I finished mine. I never gave it a thought to use a thicker thread to give the stitch more definition. I used regular thread and it looks nice, but doesn't really stand out...but that's ok. Thank you for sharing another great tip with us.

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello X, You are so welcome! Darn it! Well, now we know. There will always be a next time. Please keep liking and watching!

[@clintprice2123]

You let us out of class early today Richard! The thickness of the thread along with the spacing of the stitches really does change the look of the project. It looks very nice.

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Clint, Class dismissed! I am so glad you liked it. Please keep liking and watching!

[@clintprice2123]

I forgot to tell you that I see your business is in Livingston Texas, I live in Livingston NJ.

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

@@clintprice2123 Hello Clint, So does that make us cousins? Amazing how we both live in Livingston! Ha! Please keep liking and watching!

[@tracyrenko4171]

I’m always learning something new watching you

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Tracy, Thank you so much for saying so, It means a lot to me. Thanks for hanging in there with me. Please keep liking and watching!

[@xfactorautomotive1496]

Thanks!

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello X, Thank you so much for your support! And thanks for hanging in there with me. I really appreciate your comments! Please keep liking and watching!

[@gonzalojr596]

Wow. I never done this. Great teacher Richard. Thanks man.

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Gonzalo, Well, now you know! Hehe. You are so welcome. Thank you so much for saying so. Please keep liking and watching!

[@H60ace]

Very, very beautiful. I have an old airplane (1961) that needs new seat foam and upholstery. I’ve been scouring the web for ideas. I love your double-diamond insets and French stitching. I hope I can find a craftsman worth his salt here in lower Alabama. Having grown up in central California, there was never any shortage of talented upholstery men. Not yet sure that I trust these southerners with the job! lol!

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello H60, Thank you so much for saying so. If you have a log book, make sure who you use to do your work has done aircraft before. Most importantly uses only FAA burn test foam and materials. Just sayin'. I know, I came from Scottsdale Arizona. A lot of General aircraft out there. Please keep liking and watching!

[@russellmartin171]

The road you moved to Lower Alabama runs right back to California!

[@tave9011]

Thank you for being an excellent teacher

[@gonzalojr596]

Thanks Richard. I apricate your time. Gonzalo from MINNESOTA.

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Gonzalo in Minnesota, Oh, and I do appreciate you saying so. Please keep liking and watching!

[@samhutson7966]

I’m going to order some more 160/#23 needles

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Sam, Well, there you go! Go for it! Please keep liking and watching!

[@johnniek8845]

Wow, That thread looks like pretty thick stuff, that's like the thread that they used to sew people up with in the old days, now that'l leave a mark.

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Johnnie, I believe you just made me cringe... Ha! Please keep liking and watching!

[@bryanclayton7008]

TECHNIQUE #576, THE GRAND master...you know who you are...

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Bryan, Oh, jeeze! That is funny! Please keep liking and watching!

[@nyquistsenior2634]

Love the opening masking tape scene...

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Ny, I was wondering who would notice! Please keep liking and watching!

[@nyquistsenior2634]

You are a one funny guy Richard!@@oldschoolautoupholstery

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

@@nyquistsenior2634 Hello Ny, Oh, I don't know about that, I just gotta be me! Please keep liking and watching!

[@rose-Carpuride]

Amazing work. I hope to hear from you soon and I'm looking forward to seeing the videos you've taken.

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Rose, Thank you so much for saying so! I really appreciate it. Oh, you will hear from me alright. Just comment! Hehe Please keep liking and watching!

[@RonHelton]

Beautiful work!!! 🙏🙏👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Ron, Thanks pal! I appreciate you hanging in there with me. Please keep liking and watching!

[@Jack_Ratchet]

Another good lesson down.

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Jack, I am so glad you got the chance to see it! Thanks for hanging in there with me. Please keep liking and watching!

[@MrMeddle2243]

I do a lot of sewing I use 92 for seams and a lot of 277 for other things {by the way I on Crystal Bear Leather work} so I mainly am sewing leather But I have never been able to use the same needle for both thread, I guess in leather the bigger needle with small thread would show the larger holes made by the needle

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Mr, Yep, bigger needle, bigger hole. Keep that leather moving along! Please keep liking and watching!

[@GTIFabric]

There are feet available for the common industrial sewing machines that have a spring loaded guide that follows along the center of a French seam

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Eric, I am sure there is but I have never seen them. I'm old school after all! Please keep liking and watching!

[@CanadianTrucker-gg5te]

I would like to see you do button and tuff or tuck .You have a great show tks.

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Canadian, Thank you so much for saying so. if I ever get that customer, Button tuck it is! Please keep liking and watching!

[@Say_Unk]

Thank you for all your videos. I do crew band buses and star coach buses, use top stitch a lot. I would send you pictures of my work to get some input but can’t on here 🤦‍♂️

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello RV, you are so welcome! You sound like a person with much experience. Thanks for hanging in there with me! Please keep liking and watching!

[@herrerafoto]

Looks great!

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Herrera, Thank you so much for saying so! I really appreciate it. Please keep liking and watching!

[@andrewdrevdahl2329]

Wow that's nice do you put that boben with thick tread ? And I have problems with t 90 tread getting it in needle hole is small I have a juki machine . What needs do u use . Tks for your time and videos

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Andrew, You are so welcome! Standard bobbin thread, always... I use 135x17 needles for all threads I use. So I never change bobbins, I never change needles. Please keep liking and watching!

[@DonLeornas]

Hey Richard. Great Video! Love your stuff! Could you please tell us what you do about bottom thread? Do you use your normal T90 black bottom stitch for most color and thickness combinations of your top stitch?

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello User, Thank you so much for saying so. I really appreciate it. I use pre-wound bobbins that I buy by the Gross. The box says T-92. Only use two colors, beaver and black. I use these bobbins regardless of the top thread I am using. Please keep liking and watching!

[@DonLeornas]

Perfect! Thanks for taking the time to respond!!

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

@@DonLeornas Hello User, You are so welcome! As you can see, if you have a question, I answer every comment. Please keep liking and watching!

[@user-hb2ve3md6c]

Always amazing content! I have been using #69 T70 size thread for the center pleats and then the outer top stitch but it just looks too skinny and can end up being a bit wavy when the material is stretched. Unfortunately I just have a “HD” Singer home machine running 110/18 needles. Do you think it’s at all possible to go a size up say T90? Thanks wise one 🙏

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello User, I am sad to say that my experience is only with industrial sewing machines. I would not know... You can always try! Hehe, Please keep liking and watching!

[@Usuallyright]

Thank you for the tips! That looks great! I do have one question though. Do you ever put a strip of cloth on the underside to make the stitch stronger? I am pretty new at this and I notice that when I do french seams it looks like the stitch holding the two peices of material may not be strong enough to hold up to continuous use. Thanks.

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Usually, Thank you so much for saying so. In 44 years I have never used the strip of cloth. It is not necessary. Your just wasting a bunch of time. In Auto upholstery, the manufacturers never use a strip of cloth. Use of the strip of cloth is very rare. I would just do it as you seen me do it in the video. Please keep liking and watching!

[@robreeves4059]

Ok... I'm always commenting and asking questions. I'm curious....do you ever use a "binding" technique on the backside of the stitches to make the seam stronger? If yes, when do you choose to do so. WIthout the added binding, the seam looks great but is still only held by row of stitching.

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Rob, The binging your are speaking of, is used mostly in furniture. Automotive manufacturers never use it. There is nothing wrong with the strength of the seam. Just sayin'. Please keep liking and watching!

[@OrlandoRoman-h3k]

Do you also use the same thread in the bobbin when using the heavy thread?

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Orlando, I never change a size for bobbin thread. I always use a standard bobbin for industrial sewing machines for everything I do. Please keep liking and watching!

[@judiemiller5400]

Hi, nice video! I didn't see you change your bobbin to the large size thread. Do you normally keep the T90 in the bobbin and top[ stitch with a larger size? Thanks

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Judie, Thank you so much for saying so. I use the regular size T90 pre-wound bobbin thread for everything I do. Please keep liking and watching!

[@Philip-f3g]

What would your is advice for someone getting back into upholstery

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

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[@gonzalojr596]

Richard. What type of sewing you have? Thank you. Gonzalo

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Gonzalo, You are so welcome! I am using a Juki LU-2810. Please keep liking and watching!

[@michaelcox8702]

I have a question, when you do a top or french stitch, why did you use a heavier thread or do you always use a heavier thread. Thanks

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Michael, a heavy top thread it only for looks, it serves no other function. Some people like the look of a heavy top thread. Please keep liking and watching!

[@tave9011]

It’s nice car to know you can use the same needle, what size needle do you use? Excellent work btw thanks!

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Tave, Thank you so much for saying so! By the way, I show the needle size in the video. I use 135x17 industrial sewing machine needles. Please keep liking and watching!

[@eugenemyers5407]

Is it not advantageous to put binding on the back side to reinforce the initial stitch?

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Eugene, in 45 years I have never had to reinforce a French stitch. 99% of car manufacturers don't either. Just make sure your thread tensions are good and you will never have any problem. Please keep liking and watching!

[@timeout6068]

Some channels show using a backer on the French stitch. Is this necessary with the heavy upholstery fabrics? I feel like where the french seam is on an edge it could add too much bulk. What are you thoughts?

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Time, In 44 years I have never used the backing. Most auto manufacturers seats do not use a backing on French seams. It is very rare that a manufacturer uses a backing on a French seam. Please keep liking and watching!

[@TRyan-op2jo]

Richard, you mentioned your thread had gone bad. Is this something to be concerned about when buying thread?

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Tr, Oh yeah. Try to get fresh thread if you can. Please keep liking and watching!

[@rrodriguzzi1]

Who is your supplier? Or a good place to get aircraft interior materials? Working with a small airplane interior. Buying a sewing machine soon. You got me motivated to do my small airplane interior. Thanks!

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Rrod, I use Keyston Bros. They have several locations in the USA and they ship. For aircraft, it is best and sometimes required to get the FAA approved burn test materials. Especially if it needs to be logged. Experimental aircraft, not so much. Please keep liking and watching!

[@nigelheffernan3857]

Hi Richard on some videos you don't change the thread when french stitching so is the heavier thread personal choice or do you ask the customer if the want the standard thread or the heavy thread ?

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Nigel, I always give the customer a choice. Really it is preference. Please keep liking and watching!

[@pauljones2774]

Hi do you not change the bobbin thread to a thicker thread? Thanks Paul

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Paul, You are so welcome! The bottom thread only holds the top thread. It is not necessary to change the size of the bobbin thread. Please keep liking and watching!

[@norma6743]

I wanted to see the bobbin thread, that’s the area I’m having issues. The heavy top thread is showing a bead on the bottom so if you pull the bobbin thread it comes out easily. Is that the way it’s supposed to be on vinyl ? Thanks

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Norma, the first thing to do is check your thread tensions. Unless you can see the bobbin thread coming through on top, I wouldn't worry about it too much. You should never see the bottom thread, just the top thread only. Please keep liking and watching!

[@norma6743]

@@oldschoolautoupholstery Thank you for replying. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge. 👍🏻

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

@@norma6743 Hello Norma, You are so welcome! As yu may know, On my KZbin channel I have thousands and thousands of comments. I answer everyone. If you have a question, just ket me know. Please keep liking and watching!

[@bawbup7763]

Do you know of any stores that sell high quality cloth fabric? Not satisfied with some stuff from Joann’s at the moment. Looking for something to replace the fabric for a classic toyota sports car. Thanks!

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Bawb, You can find auto upholstery materials for your classic Toyota sports car by Googling "Upholstery supplier near me" I get my materials from Keyston Bros. There are several locations in the USA and they ship. Please keep liking and watching!

[@bawbup7763]

@@oldschoolautoupholstery There is one right next to me! thanks!

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

@@bawbup7763 Hello Bawb, That's so amazing! Please keep liking and watching!

[@torkelsunde3885]

Have you anny someone videos about fan ventilated seat ?

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Torkel, I do not, but really nothing different about it from a regular perforated seat cover. Please keep liking and watching!

[@bigfranksworld]

Looks like your kept T90 n the bobbin. Do you usually do that? That is what I do most of the time.

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Big, Well, I use pre-wound bobbins. I buy them by the gross. Please keep liking and watching!

[@bigfranksworld]

@@oldschoolautoupholstery And so what weight do you buy?

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

@@bigfranksworld Hello Big, In 44 years I never thought to know the weight of my bobbins. I always ordered what I thought was a standard size. You made me look at the box. It says D-92 if that means anything. Hehe Please keep liking and watching!

[@bigfranksworld]

.@@oldschoolautoupholstery I mostly wondered what weight thread you use in your bobbins

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

@@bigfranksworld Hello Big, I hope I answered your question. If not I'll give it another try. I never wind my own bobbins by the way. Please keep liking and watching!

[@rufustoad1]

Is it just in this video or is it normal not to back stitch at the end of the runs?

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Rufus, Normal or not, Top stitches are different from sewing two panels together. When sewing panels together, I always lock the stitch. Check this out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zquuq3eVbtOKftE Please keep liking and watching!

[@annapolischris]

So in your video you dont keep a consistent space from the center joining seam.. I have always found it looks sloppy when the stitch is not perfectly spaced from the center.. Were you doing this for demonstration purposes only showing the construction of the french seam?

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Anna, Really, just a demonstration. I live in the real world where this is not rocket science. There is no quality issue. Please keep liking and watching!

[@biomechanique6874]

That was ok for a quicky demo but you didn't mention that the tension needs to be adjusted for the different threads. As a result of not sorting that your demo stitches were quite untidy 😮

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Bio, I suppose you are right in some cases, But I guess with my sewing machine, I don't have to change my sewing tension. really it is not rocket science. A top stitch isn't going to change the world. Like the title says, Heavy top stitch for beginners. Just sayin' Please keep liking and watching!

[@biomechanique6874]

@@oldschoolautoupholstery Thanks for taking the time to reply. I do think a neat topstitch is very important for a professional finish though. Many machines other than yours absolutely do need the tension juggled when changing between threads. My machines (Mitsubishi type top and bottom feed) don't like a top thread bigger than T210 and it has to be bonded polyester as bonded nylon is way too stiff at those sizes. It's good that you are sharing your many years of experience though, I read the comments and you are helping beginners with their confidence 👍

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

@@biomechanique6874 Hello Bio, Right On! Right on. Please keep liking and watching!

[@fuzzysharp7396]

I would say no, the needle size matters, where you are stitching,, a wallet or a car seat as well as thread size.

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Fuzzy, For 44years, I have only used one needle size for everything. Just sayin' Please keep liking and watching!

[@UnfinishedProjectDartSport]

Heavy!!

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Unfinished, Heavy and thick! Please keep liking and watching!

[@danielstanfill4321]

That's not what it would look like if I did it. I would need the upholstery equivalent of a track saw.

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Daniel, Isn't a track saw cheating a little? May the free hand be with you. Hehe Please keep liking and watching!

[@dennischryst4174]

As you already know, that’s a fake french stitch, a true french stitch has a piece of ribbon or thick material on the back side before the last two stitches which gives you the strength of three stitches, not one stitch as you portrayed.

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

Hello Dennis, Like I always say, there is more than one way of getting things done. In 44 years and thousands of French stitches, I have seen it done both ways when I take something apart. A ribbon in the French stitch is much, mush more rare. Every auto manufacturer does it the way you seen it here. Out of over 4000 video comments about my work, only you has said this. You can see 44 years of my work here: Rudolphsupholstery.com Go ahead and see in the next car you work on. I dare you! Ha! Please keep liking and watching!

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

@@Ufbwgeufjdo Hello Gustavo, This is the best explanation possible! You said it better than I could have. Thank you so much for your excellent contribution. Please keep liking and watching!

[@ericbaker475]

What size bobbin thread are you using?

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

@@ericbaker475 Hell Eric, In 44 years I never thought to know the weight of my bobbins. I always ordered what I thought was a standard size. You made me look at the box. It says D-92 if that means anything. Hehe Please keep liking and watching!

[@AutismusPrime69]

Calm down dude. I checked your youtube channel for a video to show us how its done...nothing.

[@roller9158]

Thanks!

[@oldschoolautoupholstery]

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