How To Hit The Perfect Forehand Slice Return In 7 Simple Steps

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PrimeTime Pickleball

PrimeTime Pickleball

Күн бұрын

Learn the mechanics of how to hit an effective slice return on the forehand side that you can use it again and again against any serve that comes your way. It doesn't matter how deep or hard the serve is, this return works!
You’ll want to know this so that you can land your return deep in your opponent’s court every time as well as comfortably transition to the NVZ line behind it and take charge of the point.
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@ginnysher6541
@ginnysher6541 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I truly enjoy and appreciate how you break down individual 'pieces' of a shot, in this case a slice. It's so helpful to see footwork, rotation, spacing, speed, etc. I hope to incorporate this into my toolbox very soon.
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ginny! Glad you find it useful.
@ivysmum
@ivysmum Жыл бұрын
I have been using a forehand and backhand slice return for a few months with great success. I'm currently playing competitively at 3.5 so my opponents, like me, are far from expert level. The returns are deep and I can move them around the court, which seems to catch the receivers off-guard. The slice return is an important tool in my toolbox!
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
Great stuff Lorie!
@JohnStubbert
@JohnStubbert Жыл бұрын
This teaching video is of major importance to my learning journey about pickleball. I find that the footwork and involvement of body positioning is simply not explained at our club level instructional classes. I had the opportunity to play the following day after watching this video and focused just on receiving the ball as you showed. I found I was more successful with my return shots and also more relaxed because I had given myself time to prepare to receive the shot. Not having played a racket sport before, this detailed breakdown is vital as I am a visual learner. Thank you
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
So happy to hear that you implemented this right away and that it helped. 👍🎉
@mediumdun18
@mediumdun18 Жыл бұрын
This is so well done. The breakdown is succinct and easy to translate to game situations . One of my favorite shots and this helped refine my approach . Thx!
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it & thank you!
@maheshsankaran7981
@maheshsankaran7981 4 ай бұрын
Great video. One suggestion would be to do a summary at the end of the 7 steps, so that they are reinforced in the viewer's mind. Thanks for making the video.
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@lingluo5946
@lingluo5946 6 ай бұрын
Good job! very detail explanations!❤ Thanks for posting 🌹🌹
@marylewis7212
@marylewis7212 Жыл бұрын
Excited to work on this. Thank you
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
Great stuff Mary!
@cathylacour2061
@cathylacour2061 Жыл бұрын
Great job breaking it all down. Love your videos!
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@AnnMitt
@AnnMitt Жыл бұрын
Wow!! Awesome instructional video. Thank you!!!
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it Ann! 😊
@bretwallach9863
@bretwallach9863 Жыл бұрын
You caught my attention when you talked about the position and movement of the non-paddle arm because it reminded me of how dependent I am on my left arm for balance, especially once my legs get a little tired causing my footwork to get a little sloppy. At the end of a pickleball session it's often my LEFT (non-paddle) arm that's the most tired and sore because it spends a lot of time extended away from my body much like it shows in your video at 6:31 and with my long, heavy male arms it really works the shoulder muscles. I look forward to trying the slice return shown here - thanks!
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
Good observations! Yes, the off hand is so important yet so often overlooked.
@robertharrison7832
@robertharrison7832 3 ай бұрын
Whew, I feel like I have been to Pickleball University. This is a loooong video, really good but longer than most. But your explanation of the movements is so clear. I will have to watch this video a dozen times before I can remember most of it. I look forward to your other videos. RH Philippines
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, i tend to go for it on the length because I want to be SUPER clear.
@Thejoeb
@Thejoeb Жыл бұрын
Super useful return. Dave Weinbach does it very well, he was one of the first players I saw using it as a means to get to the line with the follow through movement.
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
For sure!
@andyapsay8220
@andyapsay8220 3 ай бұрын
Really good video. I need to take notes.
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball 3 ай бұрын
glad you liked it :)
@cmwei888
@cmwei888 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! It’s what I am working on now, in tennis and pickleball!
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for the comment and glad you liked it.
@deborahducworth5619
@deborahducworth5619 Жыл бұрын
Thx, Nicole, very helpful!
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
😊
@ronaldtrawon1841
@ronaldtrawon1841 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tips. Very pickably helpful.
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball 11 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@peteherrera1502
@peteherrera1502 4 ай бұрын
Great video and great explanation
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@TriciaW618
@TriciaW618 Жыл бұрын
Great tips! I do slice returns- not always successful. The ‘spacing’ explains it a lot. Thanks.
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
😊
@user-pe1ur2yt1k
@user-pe1ur2yt1k 4 ай бұрын
Thank you excellent lesson❤ you explained well step by step
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball 2 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it
@joysonmenezes2158
@joysonmenezes2158 Жыл бұрын
Great content! Could you please show how to do the same on backhand? Also, the slice return is effective if the serve is short. But if the serve is deep, it's really tricky to adjust, especially since there's limited spacing due to fences.
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion for the BH slice video. I personally think slice works well when you're in a pinch on deep ones. Just shorten up your whole motion and chip it more than doing a full swing slice.
@punk7066
@punk7066 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I didn’t know I needed to change my grip and that my paddle face only needed to be slightly open.
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@mtcdnp
@mtcdnp Жыл бұрын
I also add a side pull to it sometimes to add extra spin or turn hand 90 degree while slicing. My back slice sometimes makes the return to bring ball back across the net without opponent touching it. Best way to return this slice for opponent it is top spin since the ball will continue same rotation direction.
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
Nice! Yeah, adding sidespin is a good plan. Alternating pure underspin with sidespin ones is also effective. :)
@gentlehorst
@gentlehorst Жыл бұрын
I am not playing to win but for the fun. If the score reaches 9:9 I am happy. So I often overdo the slice just for fun but yes, I use the slice as a tool for variety (to slow down, irritate their 'normal' game so they start thinking again while not killing the exchange. How you teach that shot is well done.
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Horst!
@bretwallach9863
@bretwallach9863 Жыл бұрын
First, kudos for a great instructional video! I tried this last night starting in the middle of a game (probably to the dismay of my partner ) and after the first couple didn't go particularly well, I visualized and focused on the swing motion (sort of a "U"), the semi-open stance, and the weighting on my feet and it worked! That being said, I don't think I'm gonna add this shot to my repertoire anytime soon. That's because pickleball is so complicated and demands so many different types of shots that I simply have a long ways to go on too many other higher priority shots to put in the effort to become good at this one, not to mention I have too many choices at each shot that I can't deal with the focus required to incorporate yet another one. Lastly, it didn't seem like this slice had any adverse affect on my opponents relative to the topspin loop drive (which I'm very good at) that I usually use instead. But someday, if I master everything else, I will refer back to this great video and relearn this shot.
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
Hi Bret! That is totally fair and makes a lot of sense. The topspin looper is a good option as well.
@davidbray4380
@davidbray4380 Жыл бұрын
Where you might benefit from having this in your arsenal (even as a beginner) is when you're a bit tired and could use some extra time after returning a serve, making it easier to get up to the NVZ line. The slice spends more time in the air, thus giving you that extra time. In contrast, a topspin return will reach your opponent faster AND come back faster, often forcing you to split-step and take it mid-court. Also, a slice changes up the pace for your opponent, forcing them to hit it harder (since it doesn't reach them with as much force as would a topspin drive), many times causing an unforced error.
@86309
@86309 7 ай бұрын
I am wondering if most top level players rotate and change grips like I did all those years in tennis , I was told its best to learn one grip that works for it all, (continental) from. the baseline to the Kitchen, staying the same from forehand to backhand for NVZ work as well. good videos, thanks!
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball 7 ай бұрын
Most top level players are constantly making shifts in their grips.
@jimkazmarek5302
@jimkazmarek5302 Жыл бұрын
I use it especially playing outdoors and hitting into the wind
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
Yup, slice is great for gaining more control in the wind.
@gentlehorst
@gentlehorst Жыл бұрын
@@primetimepickleball Not sure if it is just control but confusion how to hit it not robotic but calculating even the wind effect (banana) curve in slow motion 🥐
@thomasrutledge587
@thomasrutledge587 Жыл бұрын
Can you show how to use the Eastern grip for the slice?
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t recommend that. Not the right grip for the situation. Why not use the continental? If you really want to do it, you just have to turn your wrist more left as you come through the shot to close the paddle face a bit more.
@IRWE905
@IRWE905 7 ай бұрын
In the demonstration the return was just above the net. What would be the ideal height above the net to consistently have the ball land in the back 1/3 of the court. And do you change this 'ideal' height with differnt speeds of the incoming ball?
@yasim9435
@yasim9435 Ай бұрын
I see that finishing slice with relaxed wrist in a whipping motion dramatically increases spin, reduces elevation and increases depth but it also reduces control and makes shot target point less predictable. So does the slice whip have future among pro players?
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Ай бұрын
It already exists at the pro level. not usually the first choice on the forehands side but it gets mixed in.
@davidells8146
@davidells8146 Жыл бұрын
I love your content. I’m not sure what lav system you use but the transmitter is clipping which causes your audio to be difficult to listen to. Try turning down the sensitivity of the mic pack and hopefully that will help. If that’s not an option try placing the mic further from your mouth.
@jimkazmarek5302
@jimkazmarek5302 Жыл бұрын
It's your problem I have no problem with the audio
@davidells8146
@davidells8146 Жыл бұрын
@@jimkazmarek5302 it’s subtle and I pick up on it because I’m an audio professional but it wouldn’t hurt to polish this area of their production. It takes no time at all.
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
Hi David, thanks for the feedback. TBH, I can’t hear what you’re referring to but I’ll try a few things and hopefully it helps. The lav is plugged directly into my computer so there’s not transmitter. I guess I’ll try placing it further away. Or maybe I can try turning down the sensitivity of the input volume on my Mac. Does that make sense? Clearly I’m not an audio expert here. Glad you enjoy the content.
@davidells8146
@davidells8146 Жыл бұрын
@@primetimepickleball great info thanks. Yes if you turn the sensitivity down on the Mac that should help, but otherwise best lav placement is always on the sternum even if it’s less convenient to clip there.
@michaelwang8195
@michaelwang8195 Жыл бұрын
Thoughts on whether the old school "j" slice or more modern "u" slice from tennis are more appropriate in tennis (I know it applies more to backhand but i find the same concept applies on forehand)? This video explains the difference the best I've seen on the tennis side kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqiqgXlontOJn80. I find that coming from tennis I use both depending on height/speed of incoming ball (j for higher faster balls and u for lower slower balls). The full inside out chop is fun as a return on low, short serves but gotta watch for the atp coming back.....
@punk7066
@punk7066 Жыл бұрын
What are the j and u methods? I was a racquetball player and learning spin isn’t easy for me. I was taught to finish with my arm extended straight as if holding a platter.
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
Hi Micheal. Mostly u-shape, you can see at one point in the video I draw the U shape. Balls just don't bounce that high in pickleball and also the ball is not rubber and no strings so you can't "grab'" the ball as much hense J-shape is less needed.
@JohnEpto-ng6ml
@JohnEpto-ng6ml 2 ай бұрын
2
@bethpat9
@bethpat9 Жыл бұрын
I'm not using the spin shot. I just can't figure out how to! I'm rather new.
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
Go against the wall and start with doing small (chip) slices from relative close. We have a video on that. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJerZ5aeoJeIgMk
@Largecanyondog
@Largecanyondog Жыл бұрын
Def more aggressive underspin
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
😊
@LubaLuba1
@LubaLuba1 Жыл бұрын
Why is pickle ball rules so hard to understand
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
Which rules are you struggling with?
@helenhyatt1539
@helenhyatt1539 Жыл бұрын
I am curious to know how many sneakers the girl in the white goes through with her habit of dragging her left toe! Great lesson and I will do my video to see what I do. But teaching an old dog new habits is difficult.
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
She goes through quite a bit but there’s no need to change what she’s doing. It’s how she stays dynamically balanced. It’s quite common.
@burtlewis7585
@burtlewis7585 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but that's not a slice, it's just hitting underneath the ball flat. A slice shot imparts reverse spin and the more spin the better.
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
Respectfully disagree. Definitely a slice. This shot is imparting reverse spin. Agree that the more underspin , generally the better.
@DJK-cq2uy
@DJK-cq2uy Жыл бұрын
Pffft
@shelkatz
@shelkatz Жыл бұрын
In table tennis it’s called chopping.
@primetimepickleball
@primetimepickleball Жыл бұрын
Cool, makes sense.
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