I never even knew I was holding my bow "wrong". It worked, but this made the grip a whole lot more comfortable! Thanks Armin!
@mRibbons2 жыл бұрын
Same here. Instinct led me to believe gripping like a vice gave me more control. After shooting 30 arrows with a lighter squeeze into a much tighter group... I realize I've been trying to control too many things at once. 🤦🏾♀️
@tammynfletcher2 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial bow grip is mentioned as one of the most important aspects of archery! Thanks again for the instruction.
@easternyihistory45622 жыл бұрын
In korean, that grip is called 흘려잡기/흘려쥐기 (hıllyəjabgi/ hıllyəjuigi). I am surprised that you know so deeply about our korean bow techniques.
@BLACKXARCHERY2 жыл бұрын
Just when I think I know something, Armin releases another video showing me on how much I need to go back to school. Absolutely phenomenal video sir. Thank you so much.
@agamagreen2 жыл бұрын
Aha! I didn’t know the proper holding of the Korean bow! Thank you so much for sharing! ☺️🙏
@KamilZajebisty2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I've been struggling with holding my korean bow, hope its gonna help keep same grip every time I shoot.
@jarmelbarnett69222 жыл бұрын
Fundamentals are what we all need to practice. Thanks Armin for bringing the information to us. I’ve just switched to Asian style from Mediterranean style and always used the Asian style grip to shoot my Mediterranean style bow. Glad I did not have that habit to break. It felt more natural to me.
@여단-i8e2 жыл бұрын
All beginners of archery should watch your video. Thank you for the useful video.
@Matt76254 Жыл бұрын
Just started in archery with a longbow and recurve, instinctive shooting. Keep coming back to your videos for technique and advice.. honestly the best I've found in demonstration and what to do what not to do without dragging the video on forever. Thankyou and keep them coming.
@tiobi66332 жыл бұрын
Hi Armin! Thanks for these type of videos, really, they are more helpful they might seem. When I started archery back then, I had many many questions like this, and was looking for materials on YT like crazy. I honestly cannot remember how I ended up here, but thank God I did! All those kind of videos you made for beginners and/or for advanced archers are really gems. I still appreciate to this day that you took your time and shed some lights on topics like this, in a manner that a 100% beginner can get everything (and many times got in depth with the 'how' and 'why' - really cool). It's always a good idea to upload some more 'educational' videos, even if there are already a lot on your channel - as we all grow with our experience we might see things different, or a bit more detailed, from a riper perspective. Also, repetition makes us evolve, so thumbs up and thanks again! :)
@jcurwen31 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I got a daylite two days ago, and i struggled to center my shots. With the wright grip you show for a korean bow, dead center ! Thanks again !
@jonoedwards41952 жыл бұрын
Peter and You Rule! I gave up smoking and drinking, but Pedro makes it look so groovy. Ahahahaha!! You need a Compound Dude on a show one perfect day.
@Leverguns502 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing the proper way to hold a Korean bow, I actually found my groups improved quite a bit using your technique, thank you so much
@rooroo92162 жыл бұрын
I was taught the dont grip the bow thing when we started archery with the shelf recurve bows, but I always wondered why the Koreans held their horse bows like that. I’ve been using a Korean horse bow and shooting with kahtra/follow through off both sides of the bow, even with western style shooting, with pretty decent results. Next time I shoot with the thumb ring I’m definitely going to revise this video first and try it, I just hope the arrow doesn’t clip my index finger since I also shoot with vanes. Thanks again btw these are really helpful!
@ARTCHILD2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I really needed this and haven’t realized till this video that I’ve been holding my Korean Bow incorrectly…I would love a video concerning the stances, again thank you! Time to go shoot…
@notapplicable5312 жыл бұрын
One can hope that Armin might do a video on stance, but in the meantime - For a right-handed archer, left foot pointing towards the target or a degree or two to the right. Right foot pointing to the right about 85 degrees. Think of an imaginary line running back from the inside of your left foot. Your right foot's heal should be about five centimetres to the right of that line. The outside edges of your feet should within two imaginary, vertical lines dropped from you shoulders. Predraw, the front of your body will be facing about 45 degrees to the right. However, your head should be turned to face the target. Or so I've been doing for the past 22 years, for whatever that's worth. Regardless, all the best enjoying your Korean bow.
@AdalbertoMaggioJunior2 жыл бұрын
Never would’ve known about the Katra built in Korean bows. Thanks for the knowledge. God bless you.
@rakyatmusallas61782 жыл бұрын
Oh my God, really master Armin, these 3 days I confuse about my technic after bad luck in horsebow competition and you come with this topic ... thank you 🙏🏻 hope you will talk how to prevent thumb injury when release arrow .
@natlmm12 жыл бұрын
I have no idea how I stumbled upon your channel (I think I was watching a clip from Rambo a movie I enjoyed when I was a kid) and I saw a video of yours in the sidebar and I clicked it and I'm so glad that I did, I have watched so many of your videos over the last 4-5 days and have subscribed. I love your no nonsense straight to the point review style nothing over the top or silly and everything you say I feel I can trust and very entertaining to watch. Over the last few years I have had health problems and have had to give up many of my recreational activities and hobbies due to my health and have struggled to find a replacement and things to do with my time but you have inspired me to buy a bow and try archery as I feel this is still something I can do and enjoy. I hope you continue to makes videos for many years to come and things are good in your life. Hello from Australia and have a happy day.🏹🪃
@ArminHirmer2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Rick. Enjoy your way of the bow and greeting from Malta :)
@gizmonomono2 жыл бұрын
I never saw this way of gripping a Korean bow before. That's interesting. Now I only wish I had one 😂
@jonoedwards41952 жыл бұрын
Aahahhahahaha!
@Leverguns502 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information on how to hold the Korean bow properly, I really appreciate what you do
@tomasdavid16432 жыл бұрын
Great video, I just got my first bow today. It was a birthday gift from my woman and we choose bow based on your videos :) (Buck trail Flint 30#). Really looking forward to start shooting! Greetings from Czech Republic.
@michaldante97972 жыл бұрын
No vida, můj krajan zde u Armina 😁 skvělý dárek a věřím, že skvělý první luk ! Tradiční lukostřelba je krásná tak ať to hezky střílí !
@jake41942 жыл бұрын
Me and my Korean bow haven't been agreeing lately, must try that grip!
@williamdomey75842 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to work on my grip on my Sage. Thank you for another informative video.
@ronnienorth2 жыл бұрын
I really like that method of finding the grip Korean style, using the index finger.. sweet.
@florinenea2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Armin deserve more successful.
@MichaelJones-ti9fx10 ай бұрын
Revisiting this video. I’ve been shooting a Nokhor instead of a western style bow. 🎉
@giovannimaldonado50722 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. I knew I was gripping my Take Down bow to tight. I am going to use this approach. I appreciate your time and effort into these videos.
@saefeasf2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great instruction. You passed a lot of information in 3 (or this time 8 😊) minutes in a clear and comprehensible way - on point. I like it, that you give an overview about the different grips, related to the bow types. Golden content 👍
@mRibbons2 жыл бұрын
Your bow reviews are awesome, but these instructive videos are top notch. 👍
@ArminHirmer2 жыл бұрын
thank you
@davidhodgson66772 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. The timing is perfect I had taken off the big chunky handle off my black shadow Koran bow. Wrapped it with leather and another covering. Will have to play with the different ways of gripping the bow.
@HandyL2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I need this. I am not sure how I should hold a Turkish bow or anything other than my Korean bows so I hold them all the Korean way but it doesn't feel right or comfortable holding my Turkish bows like that.
@Nitdz2 жыл бұрын
I'm still not sure how big my korean bow handle should be. would love a more in depth video on that. plus i hope we see even more korean bow content. Thank you for all the awesome reviews and educational videos!
@lostseraph54302 жыл бұрын
Very helpful..a lot of info,simple explaination..easy to understand..the best tutorial for this topic
@dylluan2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I'll try Korean style this evening, thanks for advice!
@magyararcher74782 жыл бұрын
Great video about all the different grips 👌 Basics. Thanks Armin
@anxethropearcheryandsoundb84782 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to be back home tonight to watch this video !
@Daylon912 жыл бұрын
Great video sir. I just like watching your videos even if I know what the topic is about.
@miguelveratraditionalarche93742 жыл бұрын
Armin always knows how to make one eat popcorn.🤣 excellent as always Armin 🙏☕
@ArminHirmer2 жыл бұрын
and then your wife blames me that you get fat hahahahaha
@miguelveratraditionalarche93742 жыл бұрын
@@ArminHirmer 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@notapplicable5312 жыл бұрын
@@ArminHirmer Then again, how much popcorn can a person eat when the video is only eight minutes long. Ah, the magic of replay would solve that.
@derekhunter50402 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Very informative as always. I would like to see a video on stances as well.
@jareth74562 жыл бұрын
I'd say the biggest difference between the trad pistol grip shelf bows and the asiatic reflex bows is that you don't actually grip the bow but touch the thumb and index finger tips ..only enough to not drop it and then the bow arm is relaxed, this is because we want the bow to sit perfectly still and not move upon release. Asiatic reflex bows..we grip em a certain way and we want the bow to react to the release in a predictable way and grip with the lower three fingers....In Arab archery we clench the lower three fingers of both the bow hand and draw hand at the same time getting tighter until release. I'm gonna have to try the Korean bow method..it makes sense .....Armin your awesome buddy 😎 ......thank you very much
@NGNMYokohama2 жыл бұрын
Regarding the round handles like at @1:40 , I find that when I initially grip the bow I use your technique, but when I draw I naturally sort of relax the fingers on my bow hand. I guess I'm used to that from Olympic style recurve shooting.
@ArminHirmer2 жыл бұрын
that happens often :)
@lebondave43772 жыл бұрын
A perfect tutorial, thank you Armin!
@leechoii47352 жыл бұрын
Terima kasih tuan guru. (It means thank you,master sifu ) from malaysia🥰
@ArminHirmer2 жыл бұрын
dengan senang hati
@stefanlindner23482 жыл бұрын
dank' Dir, Armin - immer wieder sehr informativ !
@peterhulswitt98142 жыл бұрын
another great video, i´ve learned a lot, thank you, armin. last year during corona i build a hankyu by myself, perhaps you can give some tips for "TENOUSHI" in part 2?
@MichaelJones-ti9fx2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the explanations.
@sit17122 жыл бұрын
Das war sehr interessant. Ich habe einen koreanischen Bogen der ihrem Bogen sehr ähnlich ist. Diese Haltetechnik probiere ich auf jeden Fall aus. Vielen lieben Dank dafür.
@ArminHirmer2 жыл бұрын
gerne, viel Spass
@josephd76162 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video, with excellent info. Keep up the great work 👍🏻🏹
@BogenArmbrustUndKonsorten2 жыл бұрын
Really often neglected topic - nice Video again - thx! Only one I miss - just to be complete - would be longbow without window...
@ArminHirmer2 жыл бұрын
same as the snake bow :) but there will be part 2 with more variants :)
@MrLeskulls2 жыл бұрын
Learned some new things today, thank you.
@dunerino8922 жыл бұрын
Thx Armin! I have to try this korean grip with my Segye 👍🏻
@ArminHirmer2 жыл бұрын
works only correct with the big handles, Alibow offers 2 versions
@martinheuser47812 жыл бұрын
That was so informative. Thank you
@MrOdkundes2 жыл бұрын
Hello, i really like to watch your vids. This "new" how to hold korean bow technique would be intresting to compare with your previous style. The accuracy and speed test could be really valuable.
@ArminHirmer2 жыл бұрын
video is coming :)
@kingsgambit2 жыл бұрын
I believe all khatra comes naturally from a correct grip on the bow, which provides all torque that is needed by itself. Would you agree?
@ArminHirmer2 жыл бұрын
depends a bit on the handle shape, but generally yes
@saadized2 жыл бұрын
Yet another very useful tutorial from the Guru! But wait - what about the long bow? I tried the bottom fingers closed grip on my homemade definately-not-war longbow (7th attempt and 18 months of trial and error later I finally have a 62lb draw longbow with balanced limbs - but that's another story!) beacuse mostly habit from using asiatic reflexes. It dosen't work! Then tried the pistol grip method you mention above and that didn't work. I'm trying to learn/use the full grip i.e. closing all fingers with equal force but It dosent seem to work - the bow dosen't feel comfortable and stable both when drawing and after the shot. I suppose my inexperince is also to blame but if you have any pointers on the proper grip for a longbow, that'd be much appreciated!
@ambidextrousarchery Жыл бұрын
Love the tutorial vids🙏🫵🙇🏻♂️🏹
@LifeisGood-ye8rl2 жыл бұрын
I would never have figured out the Korean bow grip if wasn’t for this vid
@colleenparsons512 жыл бұрын
Love your bows in this u tube
@sigmanarchery542 жыл бұрын
Great explanation sir. 👍🏼 God Bless
@morganblackbyrne2 жыл бұрын
How would you suggest I hold a Numair Archery Sitian bow? You reviewed their Sikiti but I got a Sitian - basically Scythian style bow, with the handle "bulge" facing towards the archer. It's an odd grip. I'll try the Korean bow grip(?) see how that goes?
@AoyagiAichou2 жыл бұрын
I'm holding my bow (pistol grip) mostly with my thumb and my pinky. Can't hit a barn door, but that's probably simply because of poor release and badly spined arrows. :/
@oscarcampbell12422 жыл бұрын
Here I thought I finally had gotten my grip down for the Kaya. Gotta try that weird diagonal thing tomorrow! Though, my hands are tiny, so the grip has never felt as good as the ones on my compounds. If all else fails I guess I'll do something blasphemic like making my own grip for it. But first: try that diagonal thing for a while xD
@ArminHirmer2 жыл бұрын
it is common that you need to make your own one, as every hand is different. in the beginning Alibow made a refinished handle on their bows and one could shape it as needed
@notapplicable5312 жыл бұрын
Making the grip thinner is an option. If you do that, take care to keep the shape the same while removing material. Take you time and remove small amounts then test gripping the bow with the grip cover wrapped around the reduced grip. Draw the bow without an arrow and see how it feels, then let off. Testing the feel with the grip cover on is important as you can get a false "good-feel" without it only to find out things are different with the cover on.
@oscarcampbell12422 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've thought about that too (already did that on one of the compounds, I probably should've noted). Makes a lot of sense to try that first, and if all else fails, make a new one. I haven't used the grip cover at all since it already was so large. Is there any benefit to adding it at all (after reducing size of course)? Any idea for good tooling for this rubber material? Knife might go haywire. Sandpaper would clog quickly?
@Am-pj1rc2 жыл бұрын
Tqvm from Malaysia
@parvizn25652 жыл бұрын
Excellent thanks for the great video 🌺🌻🌼🌷🌸🏵🌹
@robcornelius5552 жыл бұрын
How about a traditional English Longbow with no contoured grip, arrow rest or anything else to help. Would that be the same grip as an Asiatic bow although the bow itself is totally different?
@ArminHirmer2 жыл бұрын
I shot them the same way, yes
@ARTCHILD2 жыл бұрын
Question, what about holding Arrows in the bow hand, the grip is very different and can be difficult.
@alessandrotiscornia2112 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video Armin! For a flatbow without the shelf you suggest the same grip of the Snake bow or something different?
@ArminHirmer2 жыл бұрын
yes, would work for me
@alessandrotiscornia2112 жыл бұрын
@@ArminHirmer Thank you for the reply!
@m.afiqhelmi62792 жыл бұрын
nice vid btw sir i love all of your videos
@ArminHirmer2 жыл бұрын
thank you
@FutureLaughАй бұрын
which eye do i focus with when holding a bow with left hand? i am right handed
@ArminHirmerАй бұрын
both
@FutureLaughАй бұрын
@@ArminHirmer thank you sir. But when im trying to choose which eye to focus with, do i choose an eye to be more dominant? or am i aiming intuitively
@ArminHirmerАй бұрын
@@FutureLaugh yes you are :) just look with two eyes open to the target and not the arrow
@FutureLaughАй бұрын
@@ArminHirmer thank you sir
@danielma24042 жыл бұрын
Would the grip for other concave grip bows (like the AF Tartar) be similar to the Korean as well?
@ArminHirmer2 жыл бұрын
nope, dont think so
@battleoflegions2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting topic! Especially on the Korean bow. Comparing the Korean and the Turkish, does different handle design (curve in the front vs curve in the back) effect different gripping ? I tried it on my KaiYuan bow and it feels quite good
@dermotshaw57222 жыл бұрын
I am just starting, I have a horse type bow, I am having trouble with accuracy. I have been resting my arrows on the knuckle of my index finger but I noticed you rest the arrow on the other side of the bow
@chmux2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. @armin: Are "tatar style" bows like the Hayk considered to be Korean here? I'll try that grip of course
@ArminHirmer2 жыл бұрын
tatar look similar but they are different, esp the handle
@kabaleth2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Armin! To seque, I have a question, if you're okay with answering it. I bought a scythian horsebow(25 pounds at 28') from flagella dei in december and have been shooting it, atleast twice a week now. I kinda want to get a heavier bow, but i'm unsure where to go. How much heavier would it be okay to go without it being excessive? and also do you have any fun asiatic bows that you'd recommend at that weight?
@ArminHirmer2 жыл бұрын
if your for is settled and steady, you could go for 35-40# I would not go higher. too many good bows out there. really depends on your max draw length, the style you like and your budget
@JakeBullit1232 жыл бұрын
How would you hold Korean bow shooting 3 under,arrow on the left(right handed archer)?
@ArminHirmer2 жыл бұрын
I think a Korean bow is not made for 3 finger under :) but if then like the snake
@Cleo85752 жыл бұрын
Interesting tips, Thanks
@Kinl232 жыл бұрын
Oh I need a Korean bow now LOL.... Stances would be very useful :)
@notapplicable5312 жыл бұрын
Kris, you're the second person to ask about the stance with the Korean bow. Here, for what it's worth is the reply I gave them: For a right-handed archer, left foot pointing towards the target or a degree or two to the right. Right foot pointing to the right about 85 degrees. Think of an imaginary line running back from the inside of your left foot. Your right foot's heal should be about five centimetres to the right of that line. The outside edges of your feet should within two imaginary, vertical lines dropped from you shoulders. Predraw, the front of your body will be facing about 45 degrees to the right. However, your head should be turned to face the target. Or so I've been doing for the past 22 years, for whatever that's worth. I hope you get that Korean bow and get the chance to see close or far off my above comment is off. Best.
@infrared9092 жыл бұрын
So that's why a Korean bow has such a handle. Always wondered that since I saw those for the first time.
@uppergorple2 жыл бұрын
Heck, something else to worry about!
@FizzyLamoGaming13 күн бұрын
Thank you.
@jimlahey56232 жыл бұрын
Sorry i didnt watch your films for a while. I come with some question: do you have experience with compound, block bows? I shoot samick polaris 40lbs and then 60lbs black hunter(idk what company it is, i bought it on ebay) and now i am thinking about conpound bows, can you tell what is good for practise? I dont want to buy hunting extra ordynary 1k euros bow, just something to have fun.
@jimlahey56232 жыл бұрын
I see spring is back there :) in Poland we are freezing! Hahah
@ArminHirmer2 жыл бұрын
I am not a compound guy, sorry. Sure there are many forums out there, maybe you wann check there
@supercelticdonkey2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@dtoxxyz58712 жыл бұрын
There are some Korean now without thick grip like Phoenix. how should we grab them Armin?
@ArminHirmer2 жыл бұрын
like "normal" horse bows :)
@dtoxxyz58712 жыл бұрын
@@ArminHirmer thank you
@andreavecchio16372 жыл бұрын
Hi! In the end i buy a daylite skywalk 50" but now i want ti buy a new string... What type of string ro you recommend?
@ArminHirmer2 жыл бұрын
always the original ones
@incorporeal37932 жыл бұрын
Go back to Daylite for the string.
@andreavecchio16372 жыл бұрын
Ty
@Arwndr2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 🌞
@suchoklatesatenczyk84732 жыл бұрын
Can you please write the name and company of the Korean bow?
@aetobi_2 жыл бұрын
Im watching the show called Arrow and im thinking about buying a bow. Should i buy it?