Khatra advanced - a how to for you

As my birthday gift for you all, the advanced khatra (like I do it)
I can’t come to you for my courses, here something to learn and practice - later this year, we will refine this in my courses.
See you all there and in the meantime, keep on shooting (even if only with a rubber band!)
About the rotational draw:
• Archery FAQ: Rotationa...
Three bows of the body:
• How to: Three (Body) B...
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[@jonoedwards4195]

Some will never get it, some don't want it, some find it natural. De Khatra, a silent, no contact, fast clearing, semi undisturbed cleaner flying arrow, now comes with even more Armin Turbo goodness! Great Insights, best ever, got Me Psyched for more Thumb pain, Beauty Armin, many more to You, OohH-YeaahhHH!

[@robbiedavid7961]

Thank you good Sir ❤ I'm completely obsessed with this martial and spiritual archery.🙏...With this flow and combined with tai chi, my khatra now seems to come so naturally and intuitively aligned with body, bow and arrow and target.

[@justneedductape5093]

Happy Birthday!!! nice sword there.

[@derekhunter5040]

Am I the only one that giggled when he said "look at my pelvis"?

[@Camcolito]

Nope :) . I don't know how I ended up looking at this guy's pelvis, but I have.

[@MotherAlgorithm]

@@Camcolito I'm sure it wasn't your first time

[@ians1246]

Thank you sifu. having spent 50 yrs studying martial arts of many styles and weapons. I have finally started on the road with archery, purchased my first bow with your recommendations and look forward to putting into practice all that you have shown, once it arrives here. ..kung-fu .. is seen everywhere in the skilled chief, the Great dancer, skilled golfer has great kung-fu and as seen in this video so has Archery.

[@ArminHirmer]

I thank you, enjoy your way of the bow

[@PXCharon]

The Camera surrendered the instant you drew that jian.

[@jhenson5168]

I've shot compound bows for years and just got my first shelfless Turkish bow, your videos make me realize how much of an art form this style of shooting is. It is more of a martial art over than target practice. I'm subscribed now, great content!

[@ArminHirmer]

Thank you

[@tacoma1309]

Hi Armin: Just found this katra lesson a couple weeks ago. Now i know why my more or less tuned arrows were slapping my bow (a new Isvan Hungarian--thanks for the review on that!). Second day of practice and at 10 meters, i had some beginners luck...now comes the continued work of consistent execution. Thank you, randyc

[@boquanerwinchen5198]

I wish I had watched your videos earlier. It took me months to figure out the lessons you taught in your videos.

[@marekbrutvan6917]

After years of modern style shooting I decided to shift to traditional/instinctive one instead using thumb release. Along that way I have constantly been hooked to your tutorials and have found them very helpful and concise. Thank you. You are doing great job Armin. Keep it up! Greetings from Slovakia.

[@ArminHirmer]

Thank you

[@ians1246]

Hi Armin, One thing Iv'e noticed that people do not say enough of Is in my opinion one of the most important points. RELAX. A soft muscle works more fluidly than a tense one and expierenced archers are relaxed imagine sliding into your comfy armchair just in front of the TV, youv'e done it a thousand times and you can flop, fall, slide, jump in fact any move you like and the outcome will always be the same youll be sitting comfortably in your chair you dont miss it you dont fall off. The same goes with anything we do, skills are not something we are born with they are something we accomplish and in all ways of life be it sport games politics religion the more relaxed a person is the better they are at the task at hand. Think of the first time that person kicked a ball, presented a speach or threw a punch all without exception nervously approached the task hoping it will be over before they started. The art in whatever you wish to learn is to first stop the tension in your body The pull back and pushing through that you demonstrated in your video showed fully how you engage every muscle not just the arms as you prepare your bow, Its the same when I throw a punch in Karate or Kung-Fu same in Iaido the more I practice the more I relax the more I relax the better I am. For that reason the person who has done it a 1000 times will be a 1000 times better than the one who does it for the first time. Thank you Armin for yet another brilliant Video.

[@ArminHirmer]

True that

[@alanchelnick8148]

Very cool, I'm a 71yearold novice. I do yoga and I was a welder, machinist for 40 years retired. Thanks a heap for these I valuable videos. I know how to work . Peace. Al Chelnick

[@boyharahap7712]

Hello there Mr. Hirmer. I am a fan. I've been following your videos for almost a year by now. And they trully help a lot on my learning curve with traditional archery. Cant thank you enough for creating them videos! Much love from Indonesia 👍 Stay blessed and keep it up!

[@RosssRoyce]

I was engaging for years only the Dantien, until I discovered the INCREDIBLE force of the Earth: try using the Dantien as you do but before engaging it “push” slightly towards the Earth and let its energy push back up into you, channel it upwards slightly spiraling the feet, calves, hips and pelvis. Passing through the Dantien now this last feels FULL of energy and stabilizes and amplifies this force. Without the earth it just floats…

[@fmagalhaes1521]

@Armin Hirmer. Most of the comment that have been made regarding this video echo my sentiments. All that I can say is many thanks for the video. It has helped me understand khatra much better.

[@scottmacdowall527]

I am just starting my journey with Archery and I am so thankful for archers like yourself who are teaching the spiritual and the physical reality of the bow and arrow thanks Armin.

[@mnnaqs]

Look at my pelvis 🤣 ha ha ha love it great Vid one flowing motion we use this in table tennis also as the power comes from the ground up and manifests in to the final release of the arrow lovely efficiency used well in all martial arts ... Armin amazing vids.... some say in Arabia he is known as Ameen we just know him as the Arrow Master....

[@tejapribac]

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I used to practice karate fir 10yrs as s kid, did som tai chi and similar now and then further on, and sice starting with archery a couple of years ago, I was missing all this things you talk about so nicely in this video! How to breathe, how to use tho whole (!!) body (using only the upper part just didn't feel right), how to move from tantien outward... I found your videos a good year ago, felt drawn to them immediately, but haven't been watching for months. I'm so glad I'm back :) Thank you again and again! :)

[@maidenmalta666]

Perfect, thanks Armin always a pleasure watching your videos, I learnt a lot from you, thanks for everything, and all the best for your birthday

[@tacoma1309]

Wow--another year of practice. Wouldn't you know it, i picked up a bad habit (probably in pursuit of a heavier draw wt bow) of jerking sideways and down at release. I could still hit the target, but i lost control of the bow arm over reaction...Armin to the rescue! The rubber band trick/technique/drill worked perfect for me. Since i already use the bands to stretch and warm up my shooting muscles, it was a no brainer. Using a training hall mirror, hold the bow arm in position as you draw the bands, hold...focuss...fire! The bow arm didn't move! Now the wrist action. Then out to the close target bale. Thanks Armin! I could do it! Now to keep going until the new action settles in. Randy c

[@jeremiedumontgrant3648]

Happy Bday Armin, I love what you did here, really happy you showed the sword movement. I'm from sword fighting, started to really get into your video and Horse's bow shooting, and I was making that comparative to people to explain the Khatra. Down the line its all the same base, same way of moving your body properly. use your energies fluidly. Thanks again for what you do

[@carstenwitt2207]

That's really an eye opener for me! incredible video Armin, congrats, I am a Tennis player since 50 years now, I learned it the classic way,, tight wrist, right angel of the racket to the forearm. And of course standing lateral to the ball before contacting the ball. All the power came just from the shoulder and the arm. Now look the modern forehand! Open stand, using the hip movement, loose wrist to create "Momentum" and "effortless" speed (incl. Top Spin) using your whole body. So much analogy here which tells me that this is the only way how it really should work.. I am already on the way on changing my style in tennis, thx too archery and specially your video here which really build confidence in what I am doing in Tennis and Archery and more important "why"!!! it makes so much sense...

[@miguelveratraditionalarche9374]

Hi! Mr. Armin👊😀 Super interesting and valuable information that we all appreciate. Thank you very much for your time and give us this advanced TRAINING. Allways is great to see you shooting🎯👍 Happy Birthday.🎂

[@journeywitharrows2742]

As martial artist myself i am glad to see this video 🙏 perfect!

[@dylluan]

Thank you very much! After end of isolation, I'll be 100% more skillful archer, than before. Because of your tutorial! Happy birthday!

[@Papp_Livi]

Thank you very much, Master! I love your videos, I learn a lot from you. 🙏🏼❤️ Happy birthday, dear Armin!

[@walterward8164]

Thank you for your gracious birthday gift. And many more birthdays to come. As my mother use to say, Thanks to your mother for her gift of you.

[@MotherAlgorithm]

I'm in my first week's of learning with my first bow. This feels natural and gets my arrows flying straighter when I get it right. Very satisfying style.

[@bucklenus4071]

The best teacher on the planet. Congratulations!! happy Birthday!!!

[@aapisiharper5023]

That is pretty cool and very interesting to see martial arts mixed in / used to explain archery.

[@striple6752]

I think it’s very smart to use methods, techniques from olympic recurve archery and adapt it for traditional archery because they do so much research for that competitive purpose

[@ArminHirmer]

I guess it was more the other way around.

[@striple6752]

Armin Hirmer yes of course they took their techniques from trad. archery but I mean that they do a lot of research and evaluate it and the outcome is for example that an open stance has a lot of advantages

[@kovarilaszlo3146]

Happy Birthday, maaan! Love yer videos, really helps a lot!

[@mountainpaddler2242]

Whoa! This has been my preferred stance and I just assumed it was bad form. That is exactly the form I used and it felt so much better. It's funny that you used the martial arts analogy because that was my history before archery. Awesome! Thank you for clarifying

[@prithvipalsingh6011]

Hello sir that’s very very nice of you sharing your Archary knowledge ji very much appreciated ji may god bless you with good health and happiness so you can pass your knowledge to people all over the world ji thank you very much again ji

[@kapi54321]

Danke für das Video! Du bringst es echt richtig gut rüber in den ganzen Videos, kannst dir gar nicht vorstellen wie sehr ich deine Videos mag ❤

[@junglejim7664]

Armin, I always learn so much from your videos. I have been shooting traditional bows since I was 8 years old and almost 50 years later I still learn something new all the time. As you say, archery is a discipline we can enjoy throughout our lives. I have only just started shooting a Korean style bow with a thumbing and have a few other asiatic bows on order....as we get older we often have the financial resources we lacked when we were young and passionate about our new hobbies! The majority of my shooting has been with Hill type longbows in emulation of the great Howard Hill. I can't pull 100lbs anymore and sold those bows and even 70 lbs feels like a bear - my new asiatic bows are 35-45 lbs at 28" proving we can sometimes get wiser as we get older! In the Hill style of shooting the bow starts low and comes up into the archer's line of sight much like bringing up a shotgun to shoot birds on the wing. Yet, with heavy longbows the draw often starts at eye level or even a little higher and the upper back and lats are used to draw shoulder blades down and together and the hands apart to achieve a full draw to the ear or a bit beyond. I've also seen similar technique used in Kyudo and among Mongolian archers shooting heavy bows. I've also seen this among mounted archers as well. Certainly, the start is in the shitahara as we breath in but as we breath out we contract our backs and tighten our core which leads to the natural flow you achieve and I aspire to where the back tension makes the khatra and the twisting release seem the inevitable outcome of our intent as our arrows seek the target. Stay healthy.

[@tengriguidesmysteps960]

You are my favourite archer!

[@ArminHirmer]

Thank you and you are my favorite subscriber :)

[@mikhailfong6234]

Be like water... Mr. Armin you are as fluidic as water.. smooth, effortless and so visual. Great video as always. Thanks and have great Birthday. Wishing you the best of health.

[@cumanrider2279]

I've been practicing this for 6 months now, but this video gave me some depths in it.Thank you Armin and happy birthday!

[@diepaisa]

Happy Birthday Armin! I would love to send you a video with my progress in Thumb Release! :) Khatra is not so easy at this point but everything could be done after watching your videos 100 times and practice :)

[@rodrigoconcha1788]

Great mr Hirmer mixed martial archery what a great name for a KZbin Chanel...... good info about rotation makes so much sense thank you

[@slowdancer5563]

Master Armin, you are worthy of a cult following. That was incredible. Happy Birthday!

[@QuanMinh-hd7yk]

Very useful. Thank you very much.

[@lotharluder2743]

Very good. For me a new way of Shooting.

[@aggroalex5470]

Thank you Armin for helping me learn and connect with some of my heratige. I am shooting better now than I was with modern archery techniques and technology. Even when I shoot with my offhand I am just as good now. I wish good health to you.

[@Botulismustoxin]

Infected. Ordered my first bow directly.....sorry, it's my second. My first bow I bought about 1981 ... :0 (such a long time) from the money I saved to buy this bow from the little toyshop in my small upperfranconian city. And I remember that I shoot the hole summer every day, till I shot a large round dent in my fathers new green VW Passat. My career endet abrupt.

[@mikeehrmantraut2607]

das war wirklich hilfreich und gut erklärt. danke

[@SFZ2909]

Keep up the good videos

[@janolehocky430]

So... the power that the rotational draw delivers is real. I was trying the rotational draw as you were showing and broke my PSE snake bow in 3 places. This bow was measured at almost 30 pounds at 28 inches. I had no idea that I would be able to do this....That I had the strength capable of doing this. Now I have to find another bow.

[@janolehocky430]

I weigh 140 pounds... fit... but don't go to the gym... still in shock over what just occurred.

[@albertskoope]

Thank you, Sir. Its very illuminating and helpful. Your instruction is very detail, clear and concise. Thank you.

[@badarjoe]

TQ for knowledge sharing..

[@pwaterdu]

Mixmarshalarchery or mxmarchery haha.. you always manage to make me smile while delivering profound information..Thanks for yet another oustanding contribution..Happy Birthday Master Armin!

[@martink2875]

This is yet another awsome video from you. I love the added depth making the explanation piece together very nicely. Thanks a lot!

[@lebondave4377]

Thank you for these explanations Armin! Indeed I find in this practice of Khatra what I could do in martial arts and combat sports (French boxing and ju-jutsu).

[@matahachi68]

Hi Armin, thanks for your kind words. I'm glad that you obviously got my point. Some data that might be interesting for you, who teaches lots of people and meets only a minor percentage of them in person. Maybe for others too, who think about starting asian archery, thumb release, however you want to call it. Besides, it's sunday and I'm kind of chatty. :o) I started archery in june, I built myself a small shooting range in the backyard and and got myself a cheap bow. I have no background in archery, but I do have a background in chinese martial arts working with the same concepts that are used here. It took me about 2 weeks to stop shooting pure crap, slamming the downward flething into my thumb joint and so on. Fun started with practising khatra. The arrows started to fly straighter and faster and once in a while they hit the the target right where I wanted exactly the way that I wanted. I usually shoot groups of 5. At the moment, maybe in 1 of 20 sets, all arrows hit a cup-sized spot, sticking all parallel and completely straight. But I can shoot repeatedly 2 to 3 or reverse. Meaning 2 arrows perfect, 3 crappy, sometimes the other way round. To my surprise, there is is a narrow time frame in which I constantly shoot quite good. That is when I just watch my posture a little, don't take any time for aiming but avoid to get hectic. No question, I'm not a good archer at all. But I am quite impressed by the speed of progress I could achieve by using your videos. At the moment I'm working on expanding the arm spiral. I hurt my thumb a little and tried slavic release for a while. That, for some reason, helped a lot to eliminate some uncontrolled stiffness in my release elbow. I practise daily, but never more than an hour throughout the day. Basically I do 2 things: I deconstruct my movement following Armin's method. Second is, watchting Armin and the impressive Murat Özveri shooting. I'm a visual type of learner and repeadedly watching this kind of precision forms a kind of image in my mind, that I can use in practice. I don't practise Mihai Cozmei's way of archery (at least for now) but his 'shot from heart' video is the best manual I could find about using the chest. Or upper dantian if you want. And I should mention Justin Ma, especially his video about the draw. That helped a lot at a certain point.

[@syakir8961]

I love ur explanation..thnks sir😍

[@breakingthroughinside]

This series of movements are exactly the same that me and my friends developed shooting the slingshoot as kids.

[@johnfredrickson7215]

Great breakdown Armin and Happy Birthday! I've learned tons from your videos. Lately I've been thinking of Khatra as somewhat of a flicking motion. As mischievous kids in the lunch room cafeteria we would use plastic spoons to flick spitballs, food, or whatever. In my mind the concept is very similar. When you reach full draw, you sort of gently "flick" the arrow off the string. By "flicking" your bow hand forward, you "snap" the string out of your release hand. Add in micro extensions, string twist, etc... to clean up the form.

[@nicucrainic8106]

Happy Birthday Maestro!!! God bless you! And thank you for your lessons and guidance!

[@rosehep3301]

Happy Birthday! Thank you for being so thoughtful. I needed some stretching after hunching over all the mask sewing for the last forever, it seems like. That hip twist really makes my lower back feel better. Stay safe, stay healthy!

[@victor1102]

Happy Birthday Master Armin! Awesome as always, thank you!

[@lubossoltes321]

have to take out the light bow and practice ....

[@vaportrail226]

Happy Birthday Armin! You're archery advice is priceless, thank you!!

[@vukizbeograda7977]

Bravo!

[@DjHatZnBfan]

Bruce Lee's one inch punch and a Jian sword from crouching tiger hidden dragon in the same video... Armin really likes Chinese culture. I wouldnt be surprised if his wife was from China too. Awesome video

[@rondumontier1187]

It just keeps getting better. I do know the Bruce Lee body punch. Anyway, off to the back yard. Thanks so much.🤜🤛😎

[@mieszkooracz7370]

You are a great teacher.

[@lukasreichel2066]

Happy Birthday Armin. Really enjoy watching your videos , very helpful . Plenty to improve in my form . Thank you

[@dunerino892]

Alles Gute dem Burzeltagskind! great stuff, I have to get my rubber band out!

[@saadized]

Happy Birthday!! The gift is much appreciated. Also, love the new Intro!

[@BruceBowditch]

I like this sword analogy Armin. Same motion in Japanese sword play too.

[@jeffslade1892]

Very, very good instruction. Although I can no longer shoot due to shoulder damage and arthritis, it looked like you were practising tai chi which I still do. Which is not surprising at all, all the martial arts are related because they do the same thing with the body. Regarding the sword, when you transferred it to your left hand and punched, that is how the tip is accelerated for the cut. not the wrist which is not strong enough but controls where it is going. Try the sword in the one inch punch.

[@alfonsodonate]

Happy Birthday! Thank you for all your videos

[@jonaslagander5405]

Thx, great video! Could you please make a video about different versions of "hand quivers" when fast shooting?

[@Gilbrae]

Happy Birthday to you !!! Thank you for this lesson (and all the others and bow/thumb-rings reviews) and for your excellent teaching. I must say that I have been watching your videos for a little over a year and that you made me want to practice archery, so my opinion may not be completely objective ;) Thank you, take good care of you, stay healthy and be happy :)

[@sigmanarchery54]

Looks like now I need to learn another style. But that reminds me of trying to start a chainsaw. I’m just now getting ready to start shooting slavic style. Happy Birthday 🎂🎁🎈🎈🎈🎈.....

[@tammynfletcher]

I will have to say your tutorials over the last few days have been extremely helpful and entertaining. And Happy birthday. Reaching Kang Supri is best done using his WA number he has seen any notifications from you yet. Try him again I know you'll be impressed with what he's doing with fiberglass! Thanks again for all you do for our community my friend! I'll be waiting for my next notification!

[@ArminHirmer]

he is on it already, I paid already, soon we have a bow of him in hands for my patrons

[@tammynfletcher]

@@ArminHirmer that's awesome he does a great job I know you'll like whatever bow you get! I will say tweak the brace hieght up just a little you'll thank me when you do if it's his full fiberglass version. Really made a difference in performance and vibration.

[@tobiasebastiantempella9792]

Thank you for what you do! Really beautiful, explicating and precise videos

[@OlivierNeu]

Thank you for the great explanation! After watching a lot of your videos I noticed that your stance and wrists both have a 60° angle. Even a bow is most efficient at a 60° string angle 🤯😁

[@serba73]

you are great Armin. thank you

[@JasonKonopinski]

Happy birthday, Armin!

[@mangcha2254]

Happy birthday!! You are really inspiring!!!

[@Sebastiaopedro1957]

Super Cool! Congratulations and thank you!

[@aksapriix2383]

Happy birthday Mr. Armin :)

[@leeisaac5716]

thanks for sharing another great video, hope you had a great birthday, cheers!

[@kidskids007]

Thank for your tutorial about khatra👍

[@jubei6802]

A late HBD! Congrats Armin!!

[@faizalnizar8261]

Oh happy birthday armin!

[@f.h.6997]

Thank you, that was really helpful. I like your kind of art.

[@nokifir]

Appreciated the advices sir.. and.. happy birthday.. take care..

[@marksiaotong5246]

How is this information free?!? If the archery range was not on lock down, I would be able to practice this. Thumb up, the other is drawing my bow.

[@ArminHirmer]

thank you

[@LOFIGSD]

Happy Birthday, agree, I also look at Archery as a Martial Art, as such ,should be trained in the same progression, analogy, a beginner hits a bag (static target), then someone holding pads( distance changes), then an opponent (moving target).

[@staso28]

Beautifull video :) Happy BDay to you Armin!!! I will definitely try this out in my training....

[@Beowulf975]

Another awesome informative educational video Armin!:)

[@adamadamski4361]

WOW Nice ! Lots to practice ! Thx again

[@josephd7616]

😁 always enjoy your video content. Keep up the great work 👍

[@timormsby1722]

Amazing video. Thank you!

[@jake4194]

This is great stuff! Cant wait to try this

[@mrtaffspoon]

Happy Birthday Armin.. Keep up the good work :)

[@SuePZZ]

I learned a lot from that, Armin. Thank you!