How To Hook A Bowling Ball Like The Pros

[@williamcambra2341]

Just wanna say thanks to Brad and Kyle for helping me get better at bowling. I'm not a member but I watched alot of ur tutorial since I started 4 months ago. I started as 120 average and now I'm at 190 within months. Just wanted say THANK YOU and keep it up with ur tutorial vids and vlogs.

[@davidschaberg4056]

That’s impressive!

[@TheBigPhos]

Woah that’s really impressive, I’ve been bowling for 5 years and still at a 150-156

[@mjmmusser]

I started my league with a 134 average. It currently sits at 148 but that's because we're in week 24. Yes it's a long season, but lately my weekly average has been 170-190. These guys know their sh*t.

[@TheBigPhos]

@@mjmmusser I know right!

[@mjmmusser]

@@TheBigPhos We have league championships tomorrow and these guys, Packi, and the bowlerx crew are watched every week starting 2 days before league night. They're just a weekly reminder to pound this information in my head.

[@antoniocolon354]

Have been watching Brad and Kyle for a couple years now. Average was at 167 and over two seasons I am at 185 currently. They make the game a little easier to understand. My biggest roadblock to get to 200 average has been ball speed. I got the slow ball speed down, but when I need to change angles and play with a faster ball speed I struggle. I recommend their channel to anyone who is trying to improve at bowling.

[@carmeoariefin335]

try to use gravity to your advantage more to gain ball speed

[@carmeoariefin335]

dont force the ball or u will hurt urselft

[@carmeoariefin335]

or change ur timing

[@Following5]

I've bowled a heavy 14lb ball at about 13-14mph it's a little slower than average, but have been able to average 220 at my peak. I would say in general, sometimes it's not about speed and more about consistency and picking up all your spares. I recall breaking 200 was pretty difficult for me, but once you do it its you'll find the another barrier at 220 or 225, and so forth. It sort of the general evolution of your own personal game with the sport. Enjoy it.

[@rickypatterson5037]

Hey Brad and Kyle we will see you at Buffalo Lanes south in Raleigh N C this weekend.

[@IrishSailor89]

I've been bowling seriously for about one year now. I've gone from house balls to a 3 ball bag and am carrying a 185 average. I started out not breaking 100 every game. This channel as well as others have helped me so much. Keep up the great content. You guys are producing quality hometown bowlers one video at a time.

[@attackonzach]

Picked up the game a few months ago, just got my first ball now gotta find the time to get it drilled. Even bowling with house balls I went from nowhere near 100 to the 110s-120s just by watching these guys even though I'm a lefty.

[@joshuategeler3419]

Love the tips. I found I needed to increase my ball speed so I moved back in my approach. Longer/faster steps can help increase ball speed while shorter/slower steps can help decrease ball speed. I've gone from a 150 average to getting my first 600 series last night.

[@MikeRichman]

Starting a bit back can definitely help, but maybe just as important is "distribution of steps" -- how long are early steps vs late ones. I'm a shrimpy guy, esp deep into this pandemic, but I've found saving room for a strong push off my back foot into my last step... that really helps me keep my speed up.

[@joshuategeler3419]

@@MikeRichman I hadn't thought of that. I'll keep that in mind as I try to find the "sweet spot".

[@itsgazzer186]

You also wanna be careful you don’t want to be too fast coming to the line can cause to be out of control and more inaccurate

[@johnmullin2545]

I liked seeing and watching these guys bowling on the Storm lanes when I was working there!!

[@magicalspoon799]

Probably my favorite part... 9:48

[@aidenkorn9439]

Omg it’s crazy to see the pros bowling here, I just bowled on those exact lanes for a tournament yesterday

[@billylusk7207]

Man what a great help. its gonna be very hard to come up straight after shaking hands for many years.

[@vokendrick7617]

I'm using a 16lb. Storm Hyroad and I used to be able to power it down the lane with heavy rev rates and hit the pocket while rotating my hand slighly. Now that I'm in a league, i'm learning to flatten it out just a bit whith lower ball speed.

[@ryanbrazill926]

I saw Kyle at the alley a week or so ago. Didn't wanna bother him while he was bowling so I didn't say hi but it was cool to see his release in person

[@frankformella6834]

Thanks again

[@garrettpreszler7857]

The rev rate conversation resonates with me. When I first started bowling consistently, I wanted rev rate. I was like 18, I think, and didn't have a ton of rev rate, but still averaged I'd say 190ish, but I was always trying to rev it. So much so I couldn't support a ball because my wrist was jacked up. Bowled two handed for about six months because it took the pressure off, and my man who drills my equipment, former touring pro Marv Sargent (I appreciate you immensely Marv), said that bowling two handed was the best thing that happened to me for rev rate. He said when I went back to traditional, my rev rate was night and day compared to how it was. Now... I want to lose the revs hahahaha. Revs are great, but they can definitely complicate things when they don't need to be complicated. Now I've been trying to tone it down and use the revs when I need it, not all the time, focusing more on angles and roll. If I could go back and give younger me advice, it would have been to focus on angles and roll, not revs. Thank you for the vid, gentlemen!

[@BNatoAk]

Tom Baker has the best story imo of any hall of famer in existence 🙌

[@WalterAllenTate]

i REALLY appreciate you guys moving the camera so we can see the lane..thanks again...much much better! 😁

[@timothylindley1530]

Good video guys. Bowling for 45 years and I still need to be reminded of these things from time to time. Especially ball speed, I throw it 18 mph and backing off to something like 16 - 16.5 is hard for me to maintain consistently. I know that after 4 or 5 shots that I'm probably gonna put through the face or come up really light lol

[@hamidalikiani8543]

Thank you for sharing the information can you explain more of how to be a "Back of the ball" and what kind of practices to do? it would be highly appreciated. Thanx again for you great vid

[@ryancox1808]

9:45 Kyle saying "Oh Daddy" 🤣🤣🤣

[@newsense6608]

Another how to hook a bowling ball video... but after taking bowling semi serious for the last 8 years. I now understand why this is such a difficult thing to teach someone. For anyone struggling out there... practice with purpose, video record your practice, and if you can, take a few coaching lessons. And two huge changes to my game was staying inside and under the ball for that strong hand position.

[@martinkhoe4997]

Finally they are back

[@seriouslycasual5475]

Coming up the back

[@nickb5369]

I haven't watched you guys before but my average from last season to this season was 220 to 235 and a couple of the things you guys mentioned here were things I focused on to get there. Definitely great information!

[@EggieBold]

Watching from 🇲🇳! Thank you guys 💯, learn a lot from you guys 🥰

[@GeorgeAkemanColoradoLife]

Great segment. I love my Reality and it was fun watching you throw it too.

[@jeffkuipers1030]

norm duke have a slow rev rate and straight down the 2-3 arrow and he is the the I grew up with in the 80"s watching his style and still to this day it's very affective using his style of throw.

[@rudyruiz9521]

I think none of that really matters. It is all about what YOU can duplicate repeatedly. I think consistency is the most important thing you can do regardless of anything else. If reving it works better for some, they should get a balls, walking speed, etc to match.

[@overnightdelivery]

@@rudyruiz9521 Yeah being consistent and being able to make consistent adjustments based on the oil on the lanes.

[@sleep-paralys1s]

Side note: with ball speed, the speeds you see on TV are generally 1.5-2mph faster, because the system used is measuring off the hand. On the scoreboard, it is measuring down lane. So 19 on tour is actually about 17mph

[@christiancantrell3492]

I've read on multiple articles, etc, that the difference is more along the lines of 3 mph. Hard to know exactly. But, this much is known, the speed that is shown on Fox track, and TV is actually measured right off their hands. Whereas the speed that we amateur, house bowlers, is measured much further down lane, where, if thrown properly, has skidded through the oil etc, and has lost a decent amount of energy. Using 2 or 3 mph difference to get an idea of what the PBA guys are actually doing tells us that they still throw the ball on avg quite a bit faster than most of us.

[@MikeRichman]

This is so important to keep in mind. Also, the line you play has a huge effect on ball speed down lane. On any house shot, you'll maintain more speed inside. The crazy thing is where this interacts with rev rate and equipment. What I've seen witth pearl surface is, you can get a stronger drive late if you throw it faster on the central oil than if you try to ram it down the outside -- because even though the ball's faster down lane, it also retains rev rate down lane.

[@Christian-qu6yv]

Learned something new. Didn't know hand angle impact the length of your ball skid. Good info

[@Skyfighter64]

At my current budget, I have 3 bowling balls. I have 1: Ebonite Destiny Pearl. 2: Rotogrip hustle SAY (used) and 3: Brunsick T-zone (very used). All 15lbs. I have a relatively slow ball speed at 14.5mph, and I don't like the feel of inserts so my RPM's are probably stupid low. On fresh, good quality League pattern, I usually start fairly well with my heels on the first dot to the left of center, and my Destiny Pearl should cross the first arrow to the right of center. With single board adjustments over the course of a league night, I can usually keep this ball in play for about 1-1/2 to 2 games. Unfortunately, the alley I bowl at seems to have changed the oil settings for the league I bowl on, so the lanes are a lot drier than what they were last year. On these lanes I can use my (pin above the finger holes) Hustle SAY in a similar shot setup, though the curve is very different, a little later and a lot stronger, I think), and get through 1-1/2 games using that ball. For the last game of League night, I typically have to use my T-zone spare ball, starting 5 boards right of center, and rolling over the 10-board at the arrows, which will still hit the pocket for either 9 or a strike most of the time (unless I just straight screw it up), though last week, the lanes were so dry that I had to start with my heels on the center dot, and roll my ball over the 15 board. My current average is ~178 at the moment. Speaking of ball speed, I abuse ball speed to get anything on the left side of the lane... I call these shots "lazy spares" since I don't put anything extra on the ball, just let my curve drag the ball into the 3, 6, 7 and 8 pins almost without fail.

[@markmangonedad3459]

I have never taken lesson and just play around with friends when i go bowling. I have recently tried to learn how to hook the ball and I always thought throwing it hard with a lot of RPM would get it to hook more. I didn't realize that I was not giving the ball time to grip and hook on its own. I usually throw the ball between 20 and 22 MPH. ( this is just me throwing it straight down the lane aiming for the center pin. thank you for putting this video together and helping me understand what i need to work on to try and hook the ball better.

[@seanchandler1624]

Can someone tell me the name of the song of Brad and Kyles entrance video

[@TheVontastic]

Thanks guys. I always think, what's easier, adding 50 revs or throwing it half a mile an hour slower?

[@slimgenzy1102]

How to hook the ball like the pros, as there's a washout in the background haha. Great video boys. Keep up the good work

[@stevepena09]

Awesome video as always, but question on the tape on his thumb..what is it?? Wife and I just started and my thumb tends to "sweat" and gets a clammy stickiness to it. Would that tape help?

[@Archk1]

So how do you adjust ball speed? How do I speed up or slow down without getting out of balance and timing?

[@williamford9564]

The issue with number three is the recreational house bowler may have a difficult time repeating the release time after time. "Get more around the ball" is good in theory, but without a LOT of practice and possibly effective coaching, the release will not be repeated and the ball reactions on the lane will vary. Then when the bowler makes a lane adjustment with his or her target, it is not going to work because the error was in the release, not in the ball reaction to the lane condition.

[@leroyhatfield6669]

Ahhh. So nice to hear someone explain the simplicity’s of slowing it down. I am 57 and am so far behind in bowling. Got sick and bowling totally changed for the years I was out. I taught kids and adults to bowl since I was 15. Everybody wanted a gimmick or a trick. Answer. Would be. Try slowing it down. Never sunk in. Now you can just go to one of your 30 bags and grab another ball. But it seems like doing that just adds so much more head games amongst yourself to figure out.

[@sswolfhunter9967]

Hey brad & and kyle I want your option on what bowling ball I should buy that is under $150 because where my bowling ally is they charge you with the price of the ball and drilling

[@01surge24]

Yes sir…you definitely truly understand this vid after you’ve bowled for a while. Thanks gentlemen

[@djthebowler9530]

ive learned a ton because of you guys!!! i will be practicing your tips this Thurdsay

[@chazz7819]

I have a question for you two on that i have a weird for you i have aproach where i dont bend my arm its same position as i start on my side and i go straight out without bending my arm how do i fix that

[@davidhorton7541]

Wow the bal speed thing.... I was on a wet lane today and it took seven games to realize I was bowling to fast . I slowed down to the thirteen range and bowled three upper 140

[@hmandre144lb7]

You guys have no idea how much you've helped me in bowling I was at high up 185pts a games to 217pts those tips and tricks have made so much of a difference thank you so much!

[@micahjared8082]

Ok. Noob here > My best was 151. Took 2 mnths of watching this channel and putting it into 'slow practice' to achieve a 183. I'll take it. My AVG now is 160 compared to 4mnths ago at 115. Cheers from the Mtns of NY

[@bobheiser924]

Thanks appreciated your time and effort in your vetoes love them

[@drawstringbeanbag9138]

Can we have a video on Pin to PAP? i need help when drilling as a youth bowler.

[@4930driver]

This was an excellent video guys

[@andrewdanehl8450]

So I just switched from a 14 lb Columbia 300 spoiler to a 15 lb Roto Grip Rubicon. Any opinions or things I need to know using it and are there any guys on your who use rubicon

[@juliodefreitas157]

Awesome video and thank you for sharing your skills 💙💙💙👍👍

[@Marshmallow-yn2ew]

I have 2 urethane, 2 pearls, 1 solid, and 1 hybrid I carry with me and there all different and it helps alot in tourneys. Dark code, tank blitz, purple hammer, fatal venom, track strata, and trident horizon

[@kristenanderson5273]

Nice to see you guys back again, doing what you do best. Great advice as always. In my own game, I've realized that I'm making improvements to bowl higher scores and increase my average. I bowled a 518 series last night, despite my first game being a few pins under my average. Thank you Brad and Kyle for all of your bowling tips and helping your fans become better bowlers.

[@johngomillion4872]

Thank you, this is the type of education we need…

[@levilackey1938]

Hey I like to bowl two handed, do you think you could do a tutorial on that?

[@GradyPhilpott]

Very informative. Thanks!

[@macatyutube]

Good to see you 2..

[@donreinholz8121]

Another great video guys. I see men sometimes when bowling throw a straight ball as hard as they can which tends to cause the pins to blow past the ones behind them. They think if you throw a slow hook it makes you weak or something but you get the pins to "socialize" better because of the ball rotation. To me it is not a ball speed pissing contest. You guys make a good point about slowing down and also hand position instead of just moving left or changing balls. I hope to practice different hand positions to see if I can learn this skill depending on the oil. Thanks guys.

[@krube4199]

Excellent video guys. Thanks for the great tips!

[@darafurman-selementi4846]

Hi there, appreciate your time, and input on helping random people.... My question is I am trying to figure out what is the proper ball for me to get? I throw a straight ball and use a 12lbs ball. Please reach out on your opinion of a ball from me to better my skills with 😊. Thanks for doing this.

[@treyplaysgames3692]

I bought an rst-x2 about a month ago and I have it drilled to hook a lot, late, but now it's hooking only a little bit, but early. I don't believe I changed anything. Do you have any suggestions for how to fix that.

[@vannigiovannigio8861]

Great videos fellas. What would make then even more useful is a smooth slow motion replay after each roll so we can really see what the arm ,wrist, palm and fingers are really doing. Thank you.

[@anthonyfano4910]

Thanks for reassuring my slow 14 mph bowling speed haha Great channel, thanks for the tips!

[@KammaQwazi]

I'm a solid 11.5 so I feel your pain lol. Ordered a new ball that is a touch lighter hopefully that helps.

[@SteveSmith-mx1bu]

Thx u brad and kyle is it possible to do staying behind ball and coming round ball In slow motion pls Cheers steve 🇦🇺

[@bowlingwithtom164]

I’m a two handed bowler and have always wanted to try it, but I have a hard time with getting the thumb out obviously because I’m used to not having it.

[@simplegam1ng2k]

Thank you Brad I bowl like you every Monday my team won last cause I threw like you do

[@Anthony-10284]

thx

[@creepychaos8416]

I'm 5 minutes into the video before I noticed the stl blues logo. I'm from stl too.

[@bucknuts8824]

When you guys talk ball speed, are you referring to the qubica speed on the score screen? Or is there a better measurement. My qubica is between 14.5 to 15.

[@tristanbuchanan3350]

Bowled my first 300 not to long ago thanks to tips from you guys plus my coach love the videos and content 👌

[@SteveSmith-mx1bu]

Congratulations hopefully I can get my first 300 some day

[@greggpbowlz]

Interesting perspective. Thanks

[@davidmeeks2405]

At 57 I'm really just learning, but have watched my mother bowl my whole life. # 2 is my biggest problem ( my speed) and I have always noticed a noticeable difference in pin reaction. A slower ball just seems to to get better reaction and it just knocks down more pins

[@Birdbussa]

You guys are the best. Good bless you with king

[@Detroit0903]

Hey so i have a question, i cant throw a heavier ball one handed. Like a 11 is perfect. What can i do to go higher ?. I work out but shit still heavy lol

[@TrandafirRuby]

It seems more of a muscled swing. 2 handed 1 handed you want to have a free and easy swing using gravity or rotation. Throwing 15 from 11 is not going to be easy since it will adjust your timing due to the ball dropping faster because of gravity.

[@GoldenHereticYharim]

My average before your video was 130 now it’s 180 so thank you

[@GoodnotGreat88]

Now watch this bad shot.. strike. And this is how your do it wrong... strike. This is too fast... strike. Brad is giving me a complex in this video

[@glenstokes697]

If the oil is farther down the lane , like I mean, to the head pin what ball is going to beat that

[@Rhoadie1]

I came from the old Y.A.B.A. days. Ball speed can win you tournaments! Mph-ish..... Not revolutions etc..... You feel it. Thats how we did it back in the day. I had no idea how fast I threw a bowling ball until about 2000-teens. Even then I thought it was a joke and/or CLEARLY inaccurate. Perhaps I AM getting old. Shit I remember when this site started.

[@fredwebber3905]

Congratulations on winning your first singles title. Hopefully you will win many more.

[@ManaBoi808]

Thank you.

[@williekelty5601]

Love you guys...keep doing you!!! ;)

[@josecatty1]

What weight do you recommend? I’m 5”7 but I don’t have a strong wrist. I work with 14lbs but I get better pin fall with 15lbs

[@SupaVlinSantonE]

Most pros use 15 or 16.

[@Peterdimp]

Can you do the orange vibe please

[@Ace_v120]

isnt specto speed like 2mph more than the one you see on the ally tv? thats how im seeing it.

[@seanoriginal2966]

I can say one problem I have is adjusting to the lane, I’ll try moving boards but sometimes it doesn’t improve. Next time I bowl im try implementing speed adjusting and hand placement changing. I usually rely on getting my hand around the ball for revs.

[@alanneuls9992]

Which lanes was this filmed at? I live in the St Louis area.

[@lumberlikwidator8863]

If you are right-handed and you hate leaving the ten pin, slow your ball down. You may have to hook it less or change balls, but if your ball is traveling at a moderate speed, the pins will tend to hit each other at the widest part. Throw too fast and pins fly up in the air and the six-pin will often wrap right around the neck of the ten-pin without touching it.

[@michaeljarmola9003]

My high school bowling coach always said, “speed kills.” Great video.

[@ParadeTheGospel]

For the life of me I've never been able to figure out how to hook a ball. This is pretty good advice because I always throw my ball pretty fast so maybe if I go slower that will help. Maybe that will help a lot.

[@grantschoeck]

Okay so let me get this right, the pros are throwing closer to 16mph normally if they were measured at my home lanes?

[@chadwickbikerboy09]

Tell me this isn’t St. Charles lanes!? Or somewhere near it. Just clicked on this randomly because I want to get into bowling a little bit more and seen the blues and Lindenwood stuff in the background. Crazy if that’s my hometown lanes. A lot of memories there!

[@BradandKyleBowl]

We worked hard for that LU banner 😉

[@chadwickbikerboy09]

@@BradandKyleBowl nice! I had no idea! I went to LU as well, shooting team for a brief period haha.

[@JosephASorrentino]

don't any of the bowler video channels have access to a high speed camera?

[@TheCwshirey]

The bad thing about this is if you have a hight Rev, ball speed is very important belmo has an average of 15 to 16mph! As well as ej Tackett and both have a very huge rev rate!

[@Derrickhamilton1]

Thanks for Video. What ball weight are y’all using?

[@BradandKyleBowl]

15 pounds always my man

[@brianmizway9324]

What about when the ball is drilled, people don't seem to be talking about side weight. When I had an ounce of side weight my ball hooked more. Now I hear that yiu can have up to 3 ounces of side weight? Are these balls hooking without side weight or should I keep the side weight added on top of the style ball I use?

[@johnnerren8345]

How do you keep your revs up with slower speed ?

[@brandongoodman4116]

It's about the oil pattern and oil type

[@pezboy715]

Great vid, thanks for this. Friendly note for Brad - You’re doing great out there, try not to be so nervous in front of the camera. 😊

[@takeanl4449]

Is there a tip on how to keep your wrist bent when curving it? My wrist always just gives out

[@grillmaster95]

When you push the ball off to start your swing, make sure your hand is underneath the ball (your wrist isn't collapsed already) and left the ball swing with down going into your hand rather than into the fingers

[@tigertolliver5199]

Thanks Fellas,I try to tell this to people , they just don't get it!

[@djtblizzle]

I’ve noticed that the ball is being put down left of center, and then hooking back from right to left. I’m always scared of tossing it into the gutter, so I lay it down near the second arrow from the right. Doing this, my ball doesn’t hook, but rather “curves” into the pocket. Needless to say, I’m not a high scoring bowler. Any tips on changing my approach to a hook rather than a curve?

[@j23p24]

would love to see a more in depth video on hand position from start to finish and how u manipulate your hand to get the ball to do different things

[@christiancantrell3492]

They have a couple of videos that go through that exclusively. Quite informative, just search their names on KZbin and you'll find them.

[@kyletheune6280]

I had a ball that was supposed to hook. Just found out after 2 years that the thumb hole was WAY too big and giving me bad habits. So I’m in the process of relearning bowling. Thanks guys

[@MultiMogman]

is kyle no longer on staff with storm?