How to Install Bed Rail Hardware

[@3x3CustomTamar]

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[@martinmoss317]

Thanks for this Tamar. It's one of those things that my wife would say, "Why is it taking you so long to nail in some brackets!" You have demonstrated how getting things right and repeatable takes thought, preparation and practice.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Hahaha! Patience is key too 👍

[@bekahmarie489]

I've told my mother this and so has my stepdad. Now if only she'd get it.

[@moddymeadow]

You are a natural-born teacher/instructor/mentor. There are so many different levels of help, from ways of approaching problem solving with jigs to adding extra space for the hardware when you use your router. I continue to learn so much more from you than what is mentioned on your KZbin titles. Thank you!

[@3x3CustomTamar]

That’s really awesome to hear ☺️

[@DonsWoodies]

Another example of why your videos are at the top level of the best KZbin videos out there. Not just an instructional vid about how to do something, but all the little tips and tricks for how to get things right. There are very very few content creators today who can match your instructional expertise. I really can't emphasize that enough! From leaving the template on while chiseling out the corners, to how to transfer the lines into the template opening, to showing why you need to mortise the hardware a little deeper than flush so you get the required fit. There are a LOT of KZbin creators (some very popular ones) who should watch your videos to see how it's done. You are a born teacher.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Really so awesome to hear. ☺️☺️

[@theoriginalmonstermaker]

The dowel so as not to screw components bearing heavy loads over long distances was genius. I'm very appreciative to have learned so much from you and other YTers. Truly a wealth of knowledge that would be nearly impossible to come by through practice alone. Thanks for another great vid!

[@theoriginalmonstermaker]

Quick follow up question though, just in case you see this, if there was the 1/32 gap in hardware, how come BOTH sides needed to be adjusted slightly deeper? Clearly it worked, and that shows the necessity of practice first, but I would have expected you to only drop the depth on the 'female' mating side. Am I missing smthn? Knowledge is always appreciated but I'm also shocked you ever find time to even read these comments!

[@harveyalan788]

I admire the fact that you have all your fingers, that no portions are missing, and nor are there any visible scars on your hands or arms. Plus, your videos are extremely informative with just about the right amount of detail. Although it escapes me how you have time to breathe while explaining things.

[@mitchblackmore5230]

All these jigs and tricks (the dowel on end grain) that you come up with. It's like your brain is wired differently than mine. I just can't see myself coming up with these things. Thank God for KZbin and channels like yours.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Haha. I originally thought I would route out a larger area and glue in a block with the grain oriented in the correct direction. But that didn’t seem easy enough… so I kept thinking… 😂 You can also glue 3 dowels on the inside face of the piece in line with the screws. But that requires more measuring and laying them out correctly.

[@zacheiriksson]

I swear you're one of the only makers left that actually make and don't just push products and their channel. Thankyou

[@3x3CustomTamar]

👍👍👍

[@IvoryBayouWoodworks]

This is incredibly well thought out. I appreciate you taking the time to show us rookies some of the smaller details.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Glad you appreciate it!

[@Roxanna.wez5671]

Couldn't agree more with you @Tim

[@twomgwu17]

I've been agonizing over this install the past few days, especially cutting the mortises into the rails on the end grain. After failing with chisels and a router plane, I resigned myself to the router, which is the tool I'm least confident with. Your process for building the jig, accounting for the recess for the hooks, etc. make this feel so much more accessible. It really is confidence inspiring. Thank you for the detail and for sharing your expertise. Now my boy is finally going to get his 'big boy bed'!

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Awesome. Just practice on a piece of scrap and you’ll be fine!

[@justinjones9255]

Really nice approach to the mythical “teaching moment.”

[@woodworkking1099]

I've decided why I love her videos so much, it's her voice! Her words are so well assembled intelligent wise and well I don't know exactly why but I LOVE listening to her.

[@robertevans6481]

Great explaining the difference in just the smallest amount of extra wood vs i little bit of less.... Well done Tamar

[@genelegate1308]

This time of year i used to compare who’s shop seems to be the coldest…you almost always won. But now that you have your new shop, I think the Igloo Award will come my way 🥶. Love your videos, keep ‘em coming!

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Very glad to not be the recipient of that award this year.

[@craiggoodwin9704]

Tamar, its great to see you in your new shop...without a winter coat on even! Thanks for Sharing!

[@3x3CustomTamar]

So happy I don’t have to wear a winter coat anymore!

[@AdamIannazzone]

I always appreciate how thorough your tutorials are!

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Awesome to hear

[@Mikemalone7873]

only 11 seconds in and I know it's gonna be another great Tamar video. "First thing you need to do is make a jig..." You are so great at sharing your thought process. Thanks!

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Haha! Jigs are the answer to everything 😂

[@RGwoodVA]

Thank you for a unique video explaining this process with lots of helpful detail. It shows the extraordinary time and care a woodworker often invests in exacting tasks. So many KZbin videos show people just breezing through their projects--but this is not reality! I just finished my first bed project, and had trouble getting the depth of the rail hardware mortises just right with a router and jig. I gave up and did final adjustments with a router plane and hand chisel. Congrats on your beautiful bed and thanks again Tamar--you are a wonderful teacher!

[@3x3CustomTamar]

I have such mixed feelings about editing everything down… on the one hand, turning a 2 week project into 20 minutes inspires people to try it themselves. On the other hand, people get discouraged when they think it’s taking them longer than it “should”. So I try my best to include as many obstacles as I can so that latter doesn’t happen…

[@erinhallmakes777]

Your videos make me feel like I can make anything and that I should make myself my king's size bed but my lack of tools and work bench say otherwise.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

One of my first projects was a bed! You can do it!

[@J-D248]

Great video! Great how you show the importance of the depth! At 14:50 I would have been cursing like a sailor :)

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Haha. That’s why we practice on scrap!

[@justinsumersguy1104]

Hi Tamar, This was interesting to watch since I made the beds (just like a maid!) for Amana Furniture Shop for twenty years. Our design used a 1-3/8" by 2-5/8" by 7-1/2" mortised block and a 3/4" by 7-1/2" tenoned rail. Beds were made usually one at a time with end blocks made in small runs. I found the fastest and most accurate way of letting in the hardware (just like you used) was to do most of the cuts on an overall pin router and finishing up with a hand chisel and a small router plane. A tapered drill bit was used for the screws. Thanks for the video!

[@peterwooster5832]

Another great tutorial, I loved the one where you made that walnut bed for your son. I'm following it to make a much simpler cherry bed for myself. One thing I've found to be too difficult is using the pattern bit. The bit is 1/2 inch and the template is 5/8 inch. Hitting the side of the template is almost guaranteed. I substituted a 3/4 inch template guide and a 1/2 inch straight bit. This requires bumping the template out 1/8 inch all around which on the rectangular template is quite easy and it allows the use of a much thinner template. Also a Freud pattern bit costs more than a Freud or Bosch set of template guides and I suspect everybody with a router has a 1/2 inch straight bit. Thanks again for a pair of great tutorials!

[@MakingMadeSimple]

That dowel trick on the under-side is pure gold. Love your videos!

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Glad you like them!

[@douglasbrown3493]

I so much miss you in your old shop and cranking out videos. Making jigs, using less quality power tools, etc. More content please! Thanks

[@3x3CustomTamar]

I don’t. I’m enjoying my time with my family.

[@DeejayDebi]

Thanks Tamar, I am collecting parts to build my first project, one of which is a bed. I saw these brackets in the store and could not ligure out how something so loose and wobbly could hold a bed together. Now it makes perfect sense. I love your videos and the jigs you build are great. I've purchased several of you kits and many other recommended products. Keep going. You're not only informative but fun to watch.

[@RogerSmth]

Thanks for the full dive on this process. An adjustable jig for the hardware would be a nice upgrade.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Glad you liked it. Double sided tape makes it adjustable enough ☺️

[@rodchurchill5576]

without a doubt the best video on doing this , you are one professional woodworker for sure

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Glad you found it helpful!

[@virtualfather]

Because I am not there watching I can’t tell if you are a genius woodworker, or you just make every possible mistake and then you share with us. Out of the 400 plus woodworking channels I subscribe to as far as thoroughness goes your at the top of the list. And from what I have seen you are also the jig queen. Happy Holidays

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Haha. I just learn by making mistakes and then I share everything as I go 🤷🏻‍♀️😂

[@willieisadore5246]

I’m just waiting to get that special email so I can get your 6-in-1 base plate. I’ve literally checked the website everyday!

[@michaellitzkow8123]

Some 40 years ago I tackled a bed as my first major woodworking project. I used this type of hardware and discovered each of the obstacles you describe one by one. Later, the bed fell apart because of the screwing into endgrain problem you explained so well. I repaired it using threaded inserts with bolts instead of screws. I still sleep on the bed every night and it's still rock solid. Thanks for a really great explanation of how I should have done that job as well as a trip down memory lane.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Mistakes are a great way to learn! As long as no one get hurt… ha

[@TERHUNE_METHOD]

You are such a terrific person and wonderful instructor. Thank you for all of the work you put into your channel!

[@subgeeze]

Thanks, Tamar. I'm making a bed for my 2nd granddaughter, so haven't done this since the last one reached 2 yrs old and needed a bed. Good tip on making the mortises deeper than the thickness of the hardware!

[@3x3CustomTamar]

You are so welcome! Must be nice to build for the grandkids ☺️

[@scottmorris4914]

I have never tried this, but was told to make the one inset the same depth as the two pieces put together. Thanks for making this video. It’s great.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

I think that would be too deep… glad it was helpful!

[@scottmorris4914]

Great video. Shows how it can take a goods bit of time to do a “simple” task. Takes additional time to install the dowels so the screws can properly connect through end grain. And I like how you care about your camera, making sure it was ok. LOL

[@JasonCrawford-h4w]

Excellent video. Honestly, you have provided some of the best instructional videos I have ever seen.

[@mikewaithaka8811]

Tamar this is awesome. Thanks. Explaining the tiny details makes a lot of difference from knowing how to do it and knowing how to perfectly do it.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Glad you liked it!

[@aaudain1]

Clearly explain step 🪜 by step 🪜 instruction no loud 🔊 music and noise in the background 💡🔥💯😎

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Glad you appreciate it!

[@jimmcnett]

Excellent tip. I would not have thought of driving the dowel up in for strength.

[@aj.8665]

Simply... "Outstanding instructions and presentation!"

[@bobmartin6055]

Using your mom super powers to think ahead about the fitted sheets!! Great idea and another awesome build. Thanks for sharing!

[@3x3CustomTamar]

☺️☺️

[@larryk6330]

I just finished installing 3 sets of these on a project (not a bed but the same hardware) and your information is spot on. After doing several test cuts I got the same rock solid fit you described. Nice job.

[@qapla]

Tamar, so glad to see you posting videos again - we have missed you while you were moving. This is a really good video for explaining the why's and how's of using project specific hardware. such a simple solution to what could be a major problem during the final install of the bed. Thanks for showing the wrong way before showing the right way - that visual really drives home the point you were making. Looking forward to more of your projects.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Glad you appreciate it! When I first started using this hardware it was surprising to me that I had to route deeper so figured that was key info ppl would like as well.

[@sk8brder]

Amazing work and a brilliant tip of adding the dowel to strengthen the grip of the end grain screws!

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Glad you like it!

[@williammckinney3362]

Just getting ready to build my first bed frame. Perfect timing...Thank You so much. Bill.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Awesome. Good luck!

[@T4b10]

Tamar, thank you for all the tips within this video! Especially the dovel to avoid screwing into end-grain.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Glad you liked it!

[@virtualfather]

Thank you for all your great videos. Have a joy filled holidays. This guy makes incredible jigs just like you do. A little gift for you.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

👍👍

[@travel734]

Another example of good use of jigs. A few years back I was rebuilding an antique (short) bed in Italy. I used similar hardware that I brought over from Lee Valley. When I opened the package I saw that the hardware came from Italy, but I have never been able to source it there!

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Woodcraft for the win!

[@SawdustmakerLori]

Great tutorial on installing the bed hardware Tamar! Thanks for taking the time to show the steps and explain the reasoning behind installing the pieces below flush. You do such an excellent job in all your video's. Would love to see you have your own TV show about woodworking on PBS or a DIY channel. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. Best wishes for a wonderful holiday season!

[@Oduncukiz]

Thank you! I needed this. I will make a bed for myself and this is the best way to do it.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Good luck! I love this hardware

[@markvios29]

I really like your collection of tools! Most of my tools are old and now I'm thinking I'd like to modernize and upgrade. It must have taken you a long time to get such an awesome collection of tools.

[@mariojhorge23]

That trick at 13:50 was very nice. Thanks.

[@LoganSutton308]

Very helpful. Thank you for the thorough instructions 😊

[@TheEdsousa]

Perfect Perfect Perfect Y have solutions for everything Thank you so much

[@3x3CustomTamar]

So glad you liked it!

[@TheEdsousa]

@@3x3CustomTamar thank you so much. I am very happy when you reply, because I know there are a lot of comments

[@dinkles_woodshop]

This style of hardware is so much more work but worth it in my opinion and sooooo satisfying when you get the fit right.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Yes! Super strong! Worth it for sure

[@garykintzler4273]

Thank you for showing us this. Also, can't wait for the jig to show up.

[@glenntrewitt]

You're back!!! So happy to see another video!😀

[@3x3CustomTamar]

More to come!

[@shaun9209]

What a thorough walk through. Thank you

[@KarelKubela]

Great video Tamar as always. You are the best woodworker-woman! Thank you for your hard work to educate us!❤

[@hotbrass2165]

Great project! Thanks for sharing with the community!

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Thanks for watching!

[@billdodson207]

Lots more to this than I thought- thank you for this excellent video.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Glad you liked it!

[@Goalsplus]

Thanks very much. Fantastic tutorial as usual. The dowels are a top level pro idea. First time I've ever seen them to be honest.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Glad you liked it. It’s an old trick…

[@jayhelser1548]

Thanks!

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Glad it was helpful!

[@gwbuilder5779]

Nicely done Tamar.👌 The deeper inlay of the receiver plate is an often miscalculated ordeal for many and the installation directions are usually terrible. 🙄😂🤣🤪 The end grain dowel is always a great tip.👍 One detail to add is when inserting the dowel, make sure the grain is crossing the thickness of the board. Some dowels are straight sawn and the grain goes right through the center. I noticed your dowel grain was angled diagonally which solves that issue either way. You look so happy working in your new warm space.🤙

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Ha! I wish mine came with any installation directions. 😂

[@gwbuilder5779]

@@3x3CustomTamar I was going to mention that, but I figured you would.😂🤣😂🤣😂🤪

[@ΓΕΡΑΣΙΜΟΣΣΤΡΑΓΓΑΣ]

Impressive how you get the best splicing with this this little big tip. Thanks for this great information 🙂

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Glad you found it informative!

[@asbrand]

I've used these same hardware sets on all the beds I've built over the years. Tamar is dead on correct with these. Never had one fail. And, to be honest, never had the screws going into end grain be a problem either. I do like your solution for that possibility though (the dowel). I have also accidentally made the mortises a hair too deep before, and just used some sliced up business cards as shims under the hardware to resolve that. And again, with zero issues in the long run.

[@richardr6203]

Your process descriptions are fantastic. Thank you 🙏

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Glad you like it!

[@Realism91]

They must make a table apron attachment like this too, you could literally still things flat packed. You could sell a base kit that works with hardwood tops from Home Depot to save on shipping.

[@cignuselka]

Tamar, you are very astute when thinking about templates... the shape that you solved with two cuts of the table saw, which would have taken more time to do perforation, very clever

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Glad you liked it!

[@jnmh9662]

Thank you for all your videos. They are informative and have great tips for a beginner. Keep up the fabulous work. 😊

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Glad you like them!

[@dennishinkle5010]

I just bought a new plunge router but still haven't used it. Great video as always. Thank you.👍👍

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Ooh. Have fun with it!

[@gordeneden]

Another excellent instructional video!! Thanks for the detailed instructions and wishing you continued success.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Glad you liked it!

[@robertbamford8266]

Very well done video! Stumbled on the 4-piece mortise jig in mdf. Takes glue very well. (Mine was for furnace floor vents - larger - and I used biscuits.) Your observations about considering bit length 👍. (I have a few unused bits as a result of too long.). The one thing I also “discovered” is that in routing a mortise on a large flat surface (like a floor), you can pop off the jig and use the mortise with the top-bearing bit to go deeper. (A real “duh” moment.)

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Haha yup! Always stuff you learn as you go

[@aaudain1]

Finally you arrive, thanks for sharing, great idea 💡👍🤠💯

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Glad you like it!

[@seanrice1222]

Very sneaky sponsor ad. I appreciate you accommodating my at short attention span. ✌️🤟

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Haha 🤘

[@jorgejaramilloamaya9498]

Muchas gracias Tamar, un tutorial bien explicado para colocar los herrajes para una cama para que queden ajustados. Saludos desde Medellín, Colombia.

[@davidhuerta788]

Hello! I just found your channel and I really liked it, you explain everything and you make it look easy! Thank you for sharing your knowledge! I will subscribe right away!! 👍

[@3x3CustomTamar]

You are so welcome!

[@virginiabenatti8546]

Hii.... Discovered your chanel a few weeks ago, but already in love for your job. I was thinking that would be nice if u make a video showing how are the furniture that u have built before, how long has passed, things like this... Like how the furniture is aging. Kisses from Brasil.

[@tonysansom]

Merry Christmas Tamar!

[@calebcarlson4296]

Followed this guide, but ordered my hardware from Rockler. I think there's a slight difference in the ones from Woodcraft vs Rockler. Some snags I ran into: - My hardware didn't come with screws, so I went and bought 24 8x 1-3/4" wood screws from Ace Hardware (12 for siderails, 12 for legs). Buy a few extra incase they snap. Also get a screw extractor bit, you might need it later. - The hardware, when slotted together, don't sit exactly vertically level with each other. The male piece sits about 1/16" above the female piece, so your mortise on the footer/header legs will need to sit 1/16" below your siderail mortise for the siderail top to be flush with the leg tops. - Even after dialing in my plunge router on a sample piece, I had an issue with one of the mortises because the router didn't "bottom out" all the way when plunging, leaving one of the four siderail mortises 1/16" too shallow. Moral of the story, either use a fixed base router or really shove the plunge base to bottom out every pass. - When making the template, put painters tape around the hardware before sizing your template pieces. Otherwise you're going to have to hammer in the hardware for test fits, then pry out with a screwdriver which is not fun. - Make sure to really be gentle when screwing wood screws for the hardware. Even with centered pilot holes, I had a screw head snap off, twice, even with my drill on a loose chuck setting. Not fun to have to try to drill those out. - Be prepared to spend about 2 hours after everything is assembled filing the male hardware hooks on the inside loop to get a snug fit. I made mine a smidge too recessed into their mortises and they didn't fully seat in even after whacking with a mallet, until I fussed with the filing, test fit, whack, whack back off, file some more, test fit, repeat. All in all it took me about 8 fragmented hours of woodshop time on the template creation, mortise routing, chiseling, routed recesses within the mortises, pilot hole drilling, assembling, then another 2 for fussing with the hardware filing and fitment. But I'm an amateur, so you might be faster. Thanks Tamar.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Practicing in scraps is always key

[@Cyberdern]

Freaking love your set-up. What a beautiful upgrade. Go Tamar!

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Thanks!!

[@karl_alan]

Flad you pointed out that gap. Honestly if I was doing this the first time, I would have thought it was defective or I had done something very wrong, because I would have assumed the tolerances were different.

[@willybaetens4648]

Hi Tamar, Your tip with the dowel is great, I would never have thought of it. Ultimately, this is a simple but strong solution. Thank you for sharing this with us. Willy from Belgium.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

It’s an old trick. It’s not anything new. I think I saw it years ago in a chair design… it’s interesting what you learn when you stick your head under pieces of furniture 😂

[@willybaetens4648]

@@3x3CustomTamar Thanks again, Willy.

[@dufftime]

Great video as always Tamar 🙂. Woodcraft should be linking your video on their bed bracket page. There are a couple of points that I discovered when using similar brackets - I got the 4" ones from Rockler. 1. The bed rails should be 1"+ thick. If you use the 3/4" boards commonly found at home centers *e.g. 1x6), you're left with only 1/16" on either side. I had always planned for 1"-1 1/6" for sufficient strength, but read this complaint in the review/comments section of the product page. 2. Since it's the mortise that gives the bracket strength and not the screws, I think it's better to offset the location of the bracket on the rail towards the bottom, leaving more meat at the top. In your case your bracket was about as long as your rail so couldn't have offset much. I chopped my mortises with a chisel, and had this ridiculous setup where I clamped the rail vertically in my vise, and stood on a ladder to chop. :-D

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Haha I considered standing on a ladder with a router… decided there was a better way 😂

[@jeremyhuggins8796]

That's awesome. Thanks for making this video.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Glad you liked it!

[@jennabarton433]

I'm not building a bed. I just wanted to see how you'd tackle getting the depths correct. Wasn't disappointment 😊

[@epeiusgarage]

Great video! I just talked about your juice groove jig in my latest video. No I need to make it lol. Thanks for your content!

[@diycad]

I just want to say that I’m so proud of you! -as a woman💪

[@markdantzler6187]

Wil a 3/4 “ board be wide enough to use this hardware?

[@salahklife5244]

We.miss...you. Happy new year 💐

[@mwoody4560]

Thanks. A bunch of technique that can be used in other applications.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Yeah! Totally!

[@0whitestone]

Amazing demonstration, you truly are a natural. Regarding the hardware, it seems like a design defect to put it that close. I realize it will still be strong, but it really makes for some very tight tolerances when installing. It would have been much better to just move the slot and hook up 1/16 or an inch or so to allow more clearance.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

It’s weird bc there are many brands and they all make them exactly like this

[@clerick]

Great video, thanks you so much for sharing. It will be very usefull for me

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Glad it was helpful!

[@914marcoantonio]

Happy new year😊

[@fdort3971]

@3×3Custom well explained as usual! Thanks. Can you please explain why you use a round mallet instead of a regular hammer and a piece of scrap wood? I'm wondering if I need to invest in one.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

It’s just a nice mallet someone sent me. It feels comfortable to use

[@Trytec96]

Such a great video! Exactly what I was hoping to see. Thanks!

[@3x3CustomTamar]

Glad it was helpful!

[@dalechangomaikolbraian8175]

Gracias Gracias, saludos desde Argentina

[@X3WorkshopDesigns]

This is awesome!! I never would've thought about gluing a dowel in for those screws. Thank you so much for sharing! How the new shop? haha.

[@justinkinyon525]

Hi! Thanks for the awesome content. Can you tell me why recessing the hardware 1/32 creates a tighter fit as opposed to a flush install? I’m getting ready to tackle a bed for my daughter but want to understand the “why” on this step. I watched another vid and the maker mounted his flush. Other than that his process was similar to yours.

[@3x3CustomTamar]

We’ll, I did lots of tests… there is a little bit of play in the 2 parts. If they are flush the pieces will slightly wobble. Recessing them slightly makes sure they will be super snug

[@NSResponder]

13:28 the dowel is an improvement, but in that situation I'd go for IKEA's solution of using a machine screw going into a threaded steel plug nut.

[@shaun9209]

Did you contemplate the surface mount hardware or did you prefer the challenge of the mortises?