If you don't have a laser level. Fit a collar tie at each end, carefully placed and two stringlines between each, one at each end of two collar ties and away you go.
@davesmith729 Жыл бұрын
Love this great thinking
@stuemler5 ай бұрын
My grandpa taught me this
@GreenVegan8164 жыл бұрын
You do a great job showing and explaining to us how to do whatever project you are working on. I really appreciate that. And I'm with you not wanting to collect a bunch of stuff we don't need. Your dog, btw, is so adorable!
@TheFixerHomeRepair4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Sharon! That is my goal! Koda was happy to make an appearance! 😁
@JoshuaEllison-vg4wn Жыл бұрын
Take width of house and divide the measurement by 3 best way to find how high collar ties go and also have the cuts parallel to roof slope and cut should be 10mm lower then the roof sheathing for shrinkage. I realized you explained that so good job!! 👍
@stevelopez37210 ай бұрын
The job of a Collar tie is to unitize roof rafters to each other across the ridge board when installing a conventionally cut and stack roof structure. Got it. On new structures simply apply straps over ridge board to both rafters before applying roof covering. Both will meet code for stacked roofs. Good info for existing older structures, thanks.
@SaycoPworrell4 жыл бұрын
thanks buddy. Been working in the attic, adding new insulation and airsealing and my old 1920's house don't have this. will be adding collar ties.
@TheFixerHomeRepair4 жыл бұрын
Tron Effect Great! Hope the video helped you out! Thanks for watching!
@davedunbar95264 жыл бұрын
Clear & precise information; very much appreciated. I'm currently building a 12x16 workshop off the grid (at our recreational cabin) and wanted to know whether to use collar ties or ceiling ties. The ridge beam will be two 2x8s screwed together running on the 16' length and my 2x6 rafters will be about 10' long (on 16" centres). Thanks in advance.
@TheFixerHomeRepair4 жыл бұрын
Dave Dunbar Sounds great, Dave! Good luck with the project! Thanks so much for the kind words and for checking out the video!!
@sonicmistress Жыл бұрын
Collars or Ties? Not the same thing at all and there is no choice, 16' length with 2x8's, hope your only storing empty boxes up there.....This is a dangerous video and should be ignored.
@VideoNOLA4 жыл бұрын
I know the IRC instructs us to place collar ties in the upper third of the rafter length, but it doesn't explicitly warn against placing them too high (as shown in your video). I wonder if a beefy metal gusset or plate might be a stronger solution vs. moving wooden ties up that high? It's great that you include a tie on every rafter pair instead of the nominal "every other" or "no more than 4 feet apart" spacing that many builders seem to abide by. Nice touch with the laser level (always wanted one!).
@TheFixerHomeRepair4 жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks for the comment. I still wanted to be able to walk around so I put them higher. I figured any collar ties are better than no collar ties as this house had none. I mean I am sure it would have stood for another 80 years without them but I am sure this helped when I remodeled the living room below. Thanks for checking out the video!
@JOEYDGRACE2 жыл бұрын
@@TheFixerHomeRepair k
@napkinthief43223 жыл бұрын
awesome! i always thought that was just extra pieces of wood to hang stuff like lights in the future haha
@lornesam23 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Snap a line and fly at it if you don't have a laser!
@kellyherman76342 ай бұрын
Excellant! Very good instructions with rationale.
@luisr6377 Жыл бұрын
As soon as he said “ what the hell was th…” it went to a commercial , perfect timing lol
@kkeen14504 жыл бұрын
This was great👍 very clear, easy to follow DIY info. Love the caption about wearing safety glasses (which you weren't wearing). Was that the do as I say, not as I do, part?! LOL, sorry I couldn't resist. Love your work👏💖🌟🔧🔨🔩🏆
@TheFixerHomeRepair4 жыл бұрын
Haha yes basically, I realized I should have been wearing glasses so I let you know haha! Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed!
@RichardX05642 жыл бұрын
Wow that's a nice clean attic, My previous owners left mine with a mess
@warrenanderson86423 жыл бұрын
My son has some separation on some of the rafters, there is about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch. Don't know if it was shoddy work on the 55 year old house or there was some stress and pulling. I will be adding collar ties. Great video, one of the most informative.
@TheFixerHomeRepair3 жыл бұрын
Could be a lot of reasons for the gaps. If I had to guess it was built that way. Collar ties will give you peace of mind in my opinion. Hope the video helps. Thanks for watching!
@MegaThepow3 жыл бұрын
@@TheFixerHomeRepair gma Agree, my newly build have gaps, freaking framers just wanted to get it done and move on
@philhugill84582 ай бұрын
This Video is AWESOME........Bud.. Thanks a lot......keep'm coming !!
@TheFixerHomeRepair2 ай бұрын
👍😁
@Brandon-no3vc Жыл бұрын
Whys your ridge board so thin?
@mr.eastcoastgrow61322 ай бұрын
I've always used 3/4 plywood on both sides of the rafters. Takes longer but much stronger
@bothfeetin3 жыл бұрын
2x4’s are good enough. A little overkill but nothing wrong with that! 👍
@TheFixerHomeRepair3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I tend to go a bit overkill sometimes 😁😁 Thanks for checking it out, Elmer!
@andrewrossnagel9433 Жыл бұрын
I'm currently doing collar ties to create a vaulted ceiling. I have architectural plans ect but when I am taking my measurements there is big deviations between end to end measurements due to roof deflection. Is this normal or should I jack these rafters up until there is no deflection?
@Bonezz024 Жыл бұрын
Exactly why I needed. Thanks man 🙏
@JohnDoe-jc3cl24 күн бұрын
Safety glasses: At 11:06, the 5th nail hit another nail and sparked. I had an eye doctor use a magnet get a sliver of metal out of my eye. 1/16” over and I would’ve been blind in one eye
@harrisond81324 ай бұрын
I have a bunch of pressure treated floor boards from an old deck (5 1/2 wide by 1 inch thick. They should work okay, right?
@1fashionbliss3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video! Very detailed for anyone to follow! I just subscribed!👍🏼😊
@opictia Жыл бұрын
I would also at sway braces on both ends
@bouncer8124 ай бұрын
My ceiling joists are perpendicular to my roof rafters and I don’t have collar ties. What do I do here?
@skeeburton3360 Жыл бұрын
Thanks very well done
@lawnpro9794 жыл бұрын
as I recall, Correct if wrong. But it's ok to run every other one on 24" center. also only 4 nails.....per side. 8 total
@singhA19684 жыл бұрын
for level use thread and put mark
@jenniferk.harmon26043 жыл бұрын
Did you ever install insulation in that space? Baffles in between the rafters?
@grapeshot3462 Жыл бұрын
Would it be ok to replace a collar tie with a knee wall support? There is one really annoying collar tie in my attic right next to the access that I would love to get rid of.
@hoveredgirlheygirlhey83454 жыл бұрын
I have a block garage the walls were pushed out due to no celling joises/ rafter ties well the walls were pulled back in the best the can what's the best way to stop this from happening again I was thinking using 2x8s and overlap them in the middle and glue screw and bolt them on every other rafter and adding coller ties on every other rafter also will this work I won't be storing anything on them so the ceiling joies won't be loan bearing does this should like it would work
@brennickjack Жыл бұрын
Hey fixer My 2 car garage roof rafters are sagging. Not the ridge, the ridge looks level. . Any thoughts on removing the sag out of 16 foot 2x6 rafters . Built in 1952, There are no collar ties , just very long spans of 2x6 roof rafters that sag just about in the middle ...I noticed it lat winter when the roof had about 6 inches inches of snow on it....
@riffdex3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing research on this topic, and multiple sources have told me that collar ties (“ridge ties”) are not necessary - as long as you have ridge straps at the ridge they are enough to prevent uplift. What do you think about this conclusion?
@TheFixerHomeRepair3 жыл бұрын
Hey, Dexter! In my (not so professional) opinion, I think that school of thought is correct for the purpose of stopping the separation of the rafters. However, I strongly believe collar ties help with the overall structural integrity of the house. Rafter ties will REALLY help but I believe having collar ties helps to tie the rafters together and even give the roof more strength and somewhat prevent the tail ends of the rafters from pushing out the walls. With all this in mind, this was the reason I used them on every set of rafters and not just every other. That is all my opinion anyway. Hope you enjoyed the video!!
@BIKEMAN213 жыл бұрын
probably not needed but if you dont need the space this looks like a good idea.
@sonicmistress Жыл бұрын
@@TheFixerHomeRepair Doesn't matter what you believe, hundreds of Structural Engineers say different.....In fact in most modern Blueprints, Collars are never used, it's old technology (Pre 70's) no longer needed and are easy (if you do have them) to replace to give you more headroom.
@TheFixerHomeRepair Жыл бұрын
@@sonicmistress yes, you are correct. I think the key word is in “modern” designs. You can build a house in ways where you don’t need them at all. My house is not a modern design. I am not an engineer at all so all I can do is do my research and make decisions when working on my house. Every house is different and ultimately it is up to you as to what you do to yours.
@riffdex2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing some research on how to remodel my attic and I was wondering if you could provide any insight. The thing is my attic has rafter ties (not “collar ties”) about 1/3 of the way from the floor up. This is providing structural integrity to prevent the walls of the house from spreading due to outward pressure of the roof. In basically ties together each side of the roof. I noticed you don’t have these and I would like to remove them. Can I place a purlin wall like you have there, so that I might be able to remove the rafter ties so I can stand up in my attic? Also I would be down to add collar ties at the peak if that makes the structure more sound. (Currently no collar ties)
@TheFixerHomeRepair2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Dexter. Sorry for the delayed reply. I think you could move the rafter ties all the way down to the floor as long as they are attached to the rafters and then maybe add plywood over them so you could walk on top. I am not there so I cannot see exactly the way the house is built so only take this as an option but if the rafter ties are there, they are there for a reason. I would also recommend collar ties as far up as you can put them. Hope this helps. Let me know what you end up doing. Thanks for watching!
@riffdex2 жыл бұрын
@@MAGAMAN the ceiling joists do go in the same direction as the ties. And, admittedly very unscientific to mention, but other houses in my neighborhood have removed the ties to open their attics. I’m not saying I just want to rip them out without thinking things through, but I don’t see how the ceiling joists aren’t doing their intended job of keeping the walls tied together. I’d really like to have an attic that is more functional
@Mrdubomb4 жыл бұрын
My roof setup is the same as yours, I have no collar ties but I have mid ties in my attic, conveniently placed so I can barely move up there, any opinions on removing them and installing collar ties? Also I noticed you have a knee wall in your attic, I wonder if I would need that installed as well before removing anything.
@TheFixerHomeRepair4 жыл бұрын
Hey! I would not recommend removing those ties. I would have to look at the structure to say for sure but they are there for a reason I would guess. Maybe you can ask someone local to take a look? As far as the knee wall, are you refering to the wall in between the attic sections? If so, that is the old gable wall. Thanks for checking out the video!
@lynnwhite32203 жыл бұрын
what kind of nails?
@phillph83912 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir 🙏🏻
@TheFixerHomeRepair2 жыл бұрын
No problem! Hope the video helps!
@icepal199993 жыл бұрын
What stand are you using for your Wokeline Laser Level? Got a link from Amazon?
@lisastewart69854 жыл бұрын
Is there any issue with not cutting the ends at an angle ? I have noticed a couple sites say it's not necessary.
@1449283 жыл бұрын
am using 2x4s, straight cut, but I am strictly an amateur trying to stop roof from sagging.
@christianel-haj10613 жыл бұрын
Great video
@TheFixerHomeRepair3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Christian!
@andrewwalsh98494 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm looking at buying a house where a few of the rafters are already starting to pull away from the ridge board. I was planning on putting collar ties, but should I get the rafters fixed first?
@benweston2752 жыл бұрын
I got the same thing going. What did you end up doing?
@andrewwalsh98492 жыл бұрын
@@benweston275 After the home inspection, the previous owner ended up installing collar ties so they don't pull further.
@sef2273Ай бұрын
What caused a rafter to pull away from a ridge board? Isn’t all the way leaning in towards a ridge board?
@josephbohme7917 Жыл бұрын
It is your bldg you cannot cheat if you cared more; you'd take more time. If you wanted higher a 2" steel strap 4' on both sides with a 2x4" wood bridge braced inside.
@brianeaton37343 жыл бұрын
I understand how the collar ties beef up the roof and add stability. But is it really needed. Looks like an old house, been around for years through lots of weather and storms, and the rafters look like they haven’t moved since the day the house was built..
@herptyderp49273 жыл бұрын
It depends really, on my home I ended up putting central AC with a 2.5 ton unit in the attic, problem being the unit was 17in wide and the gap between my rafters was 16 inches, so I put in collar ties and a couple structural knee walls so I could cut out and relocate other structures to get that AC in. plus it made upgrading the wiring super easy once I could walk down a gang plank and drop the wires where I needed them without having to work around all of the BS
@JamesBrown-oo3uw4 жыл бұрын
What nails are you using?
@sonicmistress Жыл бұрын
Not structural type...LOL Collars aren't structural.
@longhauler89633 жыл бұрын
I have a sagging ridge myself and do you think if I add some collar ties it should help to prevent the ridge from sagging anymore?
@sebausa13 жыл бұрын
Your walls are bowed out, that's your ridge sink down.
@Brandon-no3vc Жыл бұрын
No ceiling joists
@yvonnep.25864 жыл бұрын
Do you have some kind of superpower 🤔 or how did you get those long boards through the narrow staircase opening? 🧞♂️😂
@TheFixerHomeRepair4 жыл бұрын
Haha that was the one good thing the old attic staircase was good for! Can’t do that anymore. But that’s ok. Thanks for watching!
@lostintime86513 жыл бұрын
I have no ridge beam in my garage. Odd. No idea why. I installed collar ties when I saw that.
@Brandon-no3vc Жыл бұрын
Make a vidio
@nutsymetalheadz5910 Жыл бұрын
I'm just curious . . . Why don't you want the collar ties to rub on the decking (6:00)?
@jeremiahbush3195 Жыл бұрын
To allow for expansion
@007nadineL2 жыл бұрын
I looked for this subject after watching Tyler and todd disaster after a deliveryman told them they could remove their collar ties boards to make their ceiling higher .
@CybekCusal23 күн бұрын
Just install hangers and then you don't need the collar ties and you'll have more headroom.
@ryanspence72392 жыл бұрын
Why can't it touch the decking?
@TheFixerHomeRepair2 жыл бұрын
Hey! It can touch but if you hold it away you have less of a chance of any squeaking that might happen. That is really the only reason. Thanks for watching!
@Brandon-no3vc Жыл бұрын
Expansion from heat and moisture
@SprezzaturaLifestyle Жыл бұрын
where are the shirt collars and neck ties?
@zakbrinkhoff3242 жыл бұрын
That's a scary thin roof rafter
@Brandon-no3vc Жыл бұрын
The ridge?
@TheRoadTaken2 жыл бұрын
Need a new link for the 360 degree level (thank you covid).
@jonnyboat23 жыл бұрын
I just watched a video. They said space them every 48”.
@TheFixerHomeRepair3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is common. Sometimes I go a bit over board. This was one of these times. 😁😁 Thanks for watching!
@jonnyboat23 жыл бұрын
@@TheFixerHomeRepair Can’t hurt though. I’ve only seen the two videos regarding collar ties. I doubt there’s a building code that deals with them.
@sonicmistress Жыл бұрын
Honestly.....First of all if a roof doesn't have Collars then it probably doesn't need them, before the introduction of Trusses it was common to find Collars in roofs but they offer no Structrural strength to the roof and they only are there to stop uplift from winds, if they were structural you'd be using Bolts not Nails, total waste of energy, time and money fixing them in a roof this size, it only has some hangers on one side, no struts or purlins.
@Brandon-no3vc Жыл бұрын
How would the wind up lift the rafters
@MVDreports25 күн бұрын
@@Brandon-no3vc the uplift while the thing is in construction, before it’s completely sealed up