how to install shower mud floor | Sakrete Sand Mix

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[@leoanthony79]

It's nice to have some snappy videos here even if you are learning on the job and are going to make some mistakes. We can all learn together and from each other's mistakes, even the minor ones. It looks like you're going to have an awesome shower! It's also my first time and it's fun to try things out.

[@Daddicated]

Yeah thanks for the feedback. You can check out the completed video of how it turned out too.

[@davidmcclain5180]

Maybe I didn't see it but is there a shower pan liner? I believe the slope per code is 1/4" per foot and not 1/2" and I would suggest not setting the wallboard into the shower floor. In this instance, you will need to use waterproofing on everything including the curb and the shower pan to avoid issues in the future. If you don't water proof the floor and keep any water from touching the pan, water will wick up the concrete wallboard at the bottom and eventually get into the wood framing.

[@Daddicated]

Yeah i made a mistake saying 1/2 inch but I did do 1/4”. Also I did the water proofing afterwards you can see it in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqWzdJiMqq-An6M

[@michaeloliver6745]

I looked it up, I found 1/2 per 12 is the rule . You did a great job, don’t let negativity ruin your time

[@sombut415]

Thank you kind sir🙏🙏🙏🙏for sharing your time and knowledge with us.. 🙏🙏🙏..

[@Daddicated]

You’re welcome.

[@Gello4235]

So I need to do this first and then do the durock? Can you pleas explain? I’m going to go off of your videos since you have the best step by step tutorial

[@Daddicated]

Thanks for the kind words. First you should install the rubber liner, then install the durock, then do the mud set. I made a mistake and forgot about the rubber linear until durock was already on along with some of the tile so I had to go with plan B.

[@rosyrodden9803]

Maybe just dont take this guy's advice in general. He didnt use 4 to 1 mix in the pan and slapped plain durock up on the walls.

[@malawigold747]

How long does the sand mix take to dry? And what kind of tile cement did u use for the imperfections? Thx!

[@Daddicated]

I believe you suppose to let it sit for at least 24 hours but it might be 48 hrs before tiling. I don't recall exactly but the instructions on the bag should tell you. I used Versabond white thinset mortar. It looks like this: amzn.to/2WNiZle. It should be at your local Home Depot. Other brand thinset should work too.

[@malawigold747]

@@Daddicated thx man!

[@Daddicated]

Anytime

[@malawigold747]

Hey brother, when the preslope has dried, how does it feel? Is it completely solid? Thx man!

[@Daddicated]

Yes it should be completely solid.

[@malawigold747]

@@Daddicated thx brother!

[@yilima]

I think you forgot to add the pebbles.. otherwise any water that gets under the tiles will be stuck just at the boarder of the shower drain as the concrete goes until below the border of the drain.

[@Daddicated]

pebbles? For what exactly?

[@rosyrodden9803]

He also forgot 4 to 1 mix

[@saulsrherrera9405]

It's a 1/4 inch per foot. Per code

[@Daddicated]

Yes you are correct. I screwed up in my voice over.

[@kazielbonn]

Isn't it 1/4 inch every foot?

[@Daddicated]

Yes it is. I messed up in the video.

[@robbob4872]

Wrong drain, no liner, not supposed to add layers to dry pack... should I go on?

[@Daddicated]

Yes, please. As I'm still learning and will take any advice I can.

[@rosyrodden9803]

​@@Daddicated yeah you need some advice brother. Maybe watch some educational youtube videos before starting your own channel

[@hereticxxx9317]

You didn't bond you mud bed to the concrete.

[@Daddicated]

What do u mean?

[@hereticxxx9317]

@@Daddicated 2 ways to pour a pan, bonded and unbonded. On concrete its typically bonded which means you do a slurry coat first, it bond the bed to the concrete. Also its 1/4" per foot, you can do 1/2" per foot but that's going to be really steep at the drain side since Its off center. Then you used a topical water proofing with what looks like a floor sink style drain. Doesnt look like a drain ment for a shower but hard to tell.

[@spankrobot]

this way it stays uncoupled so the tile won't crack when there is movement underneath.

[@numeroVLAD]

Missing shower pan

[@Daddicated]

Yes, I made a mistake of not installing it before Durock. Here is how addressed it though: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqWzdJiMqq-An6M

[@numeroVLAD]

@@Daddicated good save but liner should be at the base of the drain. Drain has weep holes that have to work to remove the moisture that penetrates mudjob and rolls down the presloped liner.

[@Daddicated]

Umm 🤔 good to know. Well on the next one I’ll definitely won’t forget it. Thankfully my base floor is the concrete foundation so even if it gets a tiny bit of moisture I think I should be okay.

[@numeroVLAD]

@@Daddicated its done. It would be interesting to monitor. Its counterintuitive but concrete is very porous and allows water to flow thru. Special treatment is required to make impervious concrete. If the flow of water is not great like in the shower it might be okay for a long time.

[@Daddicated]

@@numeroVLAD Yeah for sure. I'll probably remodel it again in the next 10-15 years if I don't sell the house. Lol So we'll see hoping everything will stay good.

[@jcmoney7729]

So once again another video full of misinformation. I tell you what, trying to find consistent information on tiling is next to impossible

[@Daddicated]

To each is own.

[@jcmoney7729]

@@Daddicated no. Not to each their own. If you don't know what you're doing you shouldn't be titling your video "how to" You could end up costing people thousands of dollars or creating a mold den that can cause health problems.

[@rosyrodden9803]

​@@Daddicatedyou dont even know how to use the correct catchphrase bruh