How To Install A Shower Pan | Church Flip | Episode 9

[@billsmith9249]

One of the few youtube channels I follow and even fewer that I know I can 'thumbs up' before I even watch the video!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Cheers Bill!

[@plumbbuild6517]

I just tour out a bathroom today that someone put cement down on OSB board 20 years ago and the only part or the bathroom the floor was rotten was where the cement was I’m not sure why but I came across the same situation about 8 years ago and every since then I put felt under any type of cement or I use a bonding agent that’s moisture resistant. It’s just a tip that I do because of what I’ve seen. Thanks for the video and I always enjoy watching them.

[@mattl1758]

You’re One of the best to watch on KZbin because of you I did my first chat tile job and it turned out great. Can’t wait to see the rest of these thanks for sharing

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@davo912]

sure..he put sand mix on top of the wood floor..sure the best lol what happens if the shower pan is leaks lol

[@addammadd]

I love how you’ll do what all contractors do, use the tool that’s close to hand and then have the grace to point it out, explain why you did it, and roll TF on.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Get er done!

[@Vinlyguyx420x]

Been plumbing for 4 years now, have done multi million dollar houses…. I never understood the cardboard rings purpose. I’ve asked plumbers who’ve been plumbing for 40+ years and they just throw it away lol! I think I’m going to start using those from now on after you explained it’s purpose. THANK YOU DUDE!

[@RossMalagarie]

Home RenoVision DIY Thanks for the shower pan install video and info, I built my tiny home, (16'x24') 10yrs ago and have added to it every year and on my list is to tear out my tub/shower and put in a shower pan and enclosure and put a jetted free standing tub on my screened in porch. So I am doing all my research on installing a shower pan. Thanks so much Jeff.

[@kcronin7211]

Thanks!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Cheers my friend!

[@lafos4914]

Thank you thank you thank you!!! I’ve had to become a DIYr and this is 1st time I’m having to redo a bathroom/and shower due to poor tile installation hired by prior owner, which revealed a leak after my 1st shower. Not only have you shown all the key details needed, but have given me the confidence to know I CAN indeed do this - at least the basics to prep for our plumber’s portion that I am not comfortable tackling; and eliminating the dread I’ve been feeling bc I must do as much as possible to save us money bc of endless issues we’ve been clobbered with here. Again, a gazillion thanks! 🤗

[@flipfinance]

I am in the exact same boat... right down to the leak. Bathroom is down to the studs right now. Good luck!

[@marksullivan57]

I like the way you guys slow your videos down and explain in detail everything with out all that music and flying through it , nice job

[@RezaDigitalNouri]

I love this guy because he shows working with basic tools that almost everyone can do, not like othe diys that says diy tben uses cnc machine.

[@ilseizi]

I always love your video's Jeff. The church video's are fun. Can't wait to see what the future holds.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Mee too. Cheers!

[@mantookhor]

Awsome! I was waiting for this video for a while, as a rookie I needed this video to build a washroom in my basement Thank you as always.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Glad I could help!

[@Kevinbaconator_]

you make stuff look so easy and simple. how dare you give me confidence to spend more money!

[@JasonPullara]

Jeff grunting ASMR video when?

[@darwinbodero7872]

😂

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Cheers Jason!

[@bignamek]

Grunting ASMR that ends with him saying "cheers!"

[@usercid640]

That's every video

[@toms7947]

That's odd...

[@Wolf-rg7ih]

Never showed how to connect the drain. In HIS CAse He has access from the floor below. , but what if you installing in the BASEMENT OVER CONCRETE FLOOR

[@misslerhin1785]

Love your videos! We purchased a split level a while back and converted it into basement apartment and upstairs main level. We remodeled the basement, but it was a quick, mostly cosmetic make over everywhere, only had to convert existing wet bar into a full kitchen... That was my first ever backsplash tile job and I think it looks great for first time 😅😉 Thank you! Now we want to tackle on the upstairs (cuz I am sick of the 90's look we have) and one of the projects I want to do is expanding master bath into the master room and closet in order to add the laundry in there (plenty of space to eat in)... These videos give me much needed inspiration and courage to get working on my remodel 😁👌 THANK YOU!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

It is our pleasure.

[@mbarton36]

I found if you don’t have a massive pair of pliers you can use one of those oil filter wrenches to tighten that plastic nut on the drain assembly.

[@sjeverett75]

Thanks for the videos. I've been working in the sand mining industry since 05. Yes, it can take forever for that Silica dust to finally settle, but you're good. That little bit won't hurt.

[@zigforjustice]

I'm in a similar situation with expanding a 2-piece to 3-piece. Will need to cut through concrete (split level on slab). But I think you have one of those videos already dealing with that. This was super helpful and freakishly relevant.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Cheers!

[@DaniloSantos-ug4ny]

I was waiting for this video, please post part 3 soon. Thank you!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

You got it! Is Saturday soon enough. Cheers!

[@Karateka1]

I love your videos Jeff, always learn a lot from you, please keep creating and uploading this great content, thanks! 😊👍🙏

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Thanks, will do!

[@thastev0]

Thanks for the video dad! You have helped us so much!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Great to hear! Cheers!

[@bradnakamura1345]

Do you have a video installing a shower pan to basement concrete floor? Thanks.

[@heatherroydiy]

My favorite teacher. 😊

[@ancienttechnology7337]

So glad I watched this video man.

[@kasumi1245]

“This is key, always having everything on site!” 30 seconds later “Yeah that’s not the ideal bit, but it’s all I could find” Haha love your videos man!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Just keeping it real. Cheers!

[@brandondempsey801]

you and I seem to be working the same projects around the same timelines, hilarious !

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Cheers!

[@jeffdeel8267]

You certainly provide excellent instructions and great commentary during your video presentations. I have become a big fan and now check your video playlist to get tips and knowledge before starting a project I have never tackled before. Thank you for all the hard work in putting together these DIY videos.

[@semperfidelis5797]

When he almost sawed into the cord 5:34 I got some shivers.

[@nmatthew7469]

Done it. "What happened? Why'd this thing stop working?"

[@snowwalker9999]

This is probably the best most informative home renovation channel. But I will say it again. The filming is not great. It does not show us everything we need to see. Please take it as a constructive criticism.

[@neilsolano8874]

Hey Jeff, does the sand mix need roofing paper underneath like the mortor and cement mixes do?

[@DuncanGlendinning]

Great video! Can you explain why you didn't put felt paper under the cement?

[@michealknight9303]

Multi-tool with scraper works great on that

[@michaeldalessio4038]

Love your videos. Options for replacing fiberglass pan with a slightly larger pan. ????

[@dilkhan6448]

What a great video! Definitely needed this help for my bathroom! Cheers Jeff!

[@jaredsmith1214]

Should you put felt down before mud?

[@brainblasta2]

I needed this 4 months ago. I am almost done renovating my bathroom from a weird layout with 2 separate vanities, 60’s tile shower, and toilet to a 4 piece with a Duravit shower pan and free standing tub. Hired plumbers to do the rough in’s and had them do install on tub and shower because I didn’t know anything about installing them. Turns out they knew even less. Guess they were only qualified for leaks and clogs. I knew enough (and could read install sheet) that mentioned a mortar bed under the pan but didn’t give any details. I was hoping plumbers would know more. They did bare minimum of mortar underneath but at least the duravit pan is heavy, maybe 60-80 lbs and mostly self supporting. The mortar I hope is mostly to keep it from moving so I hope they put enough so I’m not dealing with a mess in 5 years.

[@JustineAmos]

"I'm not big on safety but im not stupid..." 😂

[@pastrami00]

Can you put mortar or thinset directly on OSB like that?

[@mbosenbark]

Pros and cons of silicone vs. plumbers putty when attaching the drain to the pan?

[@mattgingrich4781]

Great video! What do you do for 1/4” shower flange and 1/2” drywall? Wouldn’t you have an offset when installing the walls?

[@AngelRamos-kn9bx]

I learned a lot with your video, thank you.👍👍👍

[@ondrejkovac2157]

Thx for this video. will be help full with my shower installation for sure. Anyway I have an one practical question. do I have to install shower base on concrete or install sub floor first? I'm doing basement development. Thank you for recommendation.

[@lynniepennpenn5779]

Do I need to put down the sand mixture if my pan is solid and doesn't have those bevels? Please advise.

[@simonlamoureux6726]

Sooo I've watched your video a day late and I can tell you this was very helpful. I used sika self leveling and had no luck. Was it the way I laid it down? The mix was just a bit thicker than water I used the amount of water required.... My question to you is can I leave the self leveling there and pour the sand mix over it or should I remove it? Keep the good videos coming and Thank you

[@neilp6208]

Box stores don't carry Claymore mines, either. Get those at the pro shop along with the superior caulking

[@kuyang7743]

Hi Jeff. Do we need a liner if installing a shower pan? I’m renovating my shower that’s on concrete.

[@Geee6]

15:55 what type of screws did you use to secure the shower pan to the studs? And do they need caulking over the screw?

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

basic steel screws. and no. eventually a waterproofing layer is added.

[@jonlukas3483]

I am planning to install a corner shower in a 1950 home with a crawlspace replacing a tub. Any suggestions.

[@SafWanDo]

Hey Jeff, Wouldn’t the sandmix be floating on the wood floor because it doesn’t stick to it?

[@darwinbodero7872]

14:46 as an American I can probably get my hands on a claymore mine.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

LOL

[@smashinggaming336]

Do i need something similar for going on concrete? I have a rough in basement bathroom and installing shower stall and toilet. Was wondeting if i need the thin set or sand as well. It seemed not to creak, i still have to check if its level at least.

[@thevlogsofdab8630]

Wondering this too, did you ever find out?

[@smashinggaming336]

@@thevlogsofdab8630 no never found out. But did find out that the toilet and shower are never installed far enough away so 90% of the time you have to dig up the shower drain and move it a couple inches. So I ended up leaving it for now.

[@zachshomerepair]

Love the sandbed technique, trying it out today

[@robrickert9018]

What is the product for that sand bed? I didn't catch a brand name or product name.

[@zachmiller4930]

​@robrickert9018 looks like he is using Sakcrete Sandmix, theres a few brands...quikcrete, and mapei mud bed mix both work

[@albertschmidt7430]

Instead of sand mix or mortar would you be able to use self leveler and let that set up before putting the shower pan in? That would create a perfectly level surface for the shower to sit on

[@robertblake1032]

They don’t really work like that. Unless you have a dam around your pour area and mix 3 or four gallons, pour it ,screed , then walk away.

[@loumonte658]

Great advice.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Cheers Lou!

[@OTPLAYLIST]

Does the Sandmix anchor the shower pan or just for leveling purpose? Thanks

[@Sticky_the_DJ]

Really looking forward to this series. I’m currently trying to work my way through redoing my basement bathroom. I have been dreading the shower portion a bit. I have piping already from the ground to use. I just hope there is a way to get a pan that fits the hole?? Not sure if that’s a thing, I haven’t done much shopping around yet, I know they have pre-cut holes in some you can buy but not sure if it will fit what I need yet. May do some measurements tonight… I have to redo the water piping first though so not rushing.

[@geno617]

Great video, very informative and thanks for sharing.

[@noahschmidt9076]

I have been watching a lot of your videos lately and been going back to the older videos because I am going to frame out and completely make a bathroom in an unused space. My question is do you have a video on installing a linear drain shower system?

[@quintongreen9970]

What if installing in basement on concrete? Use sand mix still without a primer?

[@Sheltercvt]

Can you do a video on installing heated floors in a bathroom? Btw, I'm new here, and your amazing. Thank you for these videos! I have no men in the family to teach me these things, and I'm a big diyer. Thank you! ❤️

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Hi Kristi! we have a couple vids on that. my favorite way is with ditra heat. cable in membrane system. simply go to the home page and find the magnifying glass to type in a search topic. If you search ditra heat you will find a couple vids about heating systems. Cheers!

[@ericlucernas]

Hello Sir, Is there no need to do waterproofing on subfloor before installing the base?

[@WhiskeyTango89]

I've seen some videos that show roofing paper on the subfloor before adding the concrete mix. Is this necessary>

[@kylehoyland]

Isnt plummers putty better for the shower drain?

[@aaudain1]

You got that 👍😎🤚👏

[@rp9869]

No tarpaper or anything between the wood and cement??? Wood absorb the moisture?

[@Geee6]

Hello, does the hardiebacker rest slightly above and inside the shower pan or does the hardiebacker rest behind the shower pan lip that is screwed into the studs?

[@LorneAdams-o8f]

Hi Jeff, What is the name of the leveling product you bought at Home Depot? I cant see the name on the bag.

[@CCM416]

What if there is an existing hole, and not sure if your new shower pan will match the location?

[@DianeNuzzo]

Where do you out the drywall if you use direct to stud shower walls? Still the same place as the glue on shower wall?

[@johnchales1825]

Hi ,sorry for my ignorance,where can get that bug of sent mix to seat the shower pan,great video

[@robrickert9018]

Did you ever figure what "sand mix" is? A brand name?

[@HansKlossJ23]

Isn't the flat metal bracket for helping out with tightening the drain, why didn't you use it?

[@jarjar0653]

How can one person know all this stuff? Amazing! Thanks for sharing 👍🏼❤️

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

raised 4 kids at 19 so I worked a lot of long days to pay those bills.

[@trentharlan9884]

Can you use the sand mix method on a basement concrete floor without applying any kind of floor prep

[@grantstanley5168]

I have seen videos using a membrane of plastic or roofing paper placed on the wood floor then the sand mix/cement placed on top of this material. Others apply the sand mix/mortar directly onto the wood floor to level out shower base. Are there any benefits for either application? Does it really matter?

[@jasonhenry2212]

a trick with the jigsaw is to hold it on an angle push against the wood. it will cut it with our a piolet hole.

[@nameme9652]

Hello Jeff. Thanks for the informative video. My question is what if the floor was concrete and level, do we still have to use sand mix? Or we can just install it as it is. Thanks a lot.

[@dad1432]

I'm not Jeff, but the short answer is Yes. Every pro I know uses a mortar base. It prevents flexing, even if a very heavy person uses the shower. Remember, flexing eventually leads to cracks and leaks. It's minimal expense and reasonably easy.

[@morganmather1718]

Do you recommend apply thin set on a slab foundation?

[@mortezaka9912]

Great tuotorial! What is the brand/model of this shower kit?

[@michaelbateman2019]

Can you do sand mix in cold weather on a new build?

[@bwiseok]

So you’re putting the shower pan up against a 2 x 4 wall construction without any sheet rock? And I also have noticed that you didn’t put any kind of barrier on the floor before you try out that stuff out? Other videos had mentioned how the wood floor with suck up the water out of that thin set.

[@huma1000]

The sheetrock gets put on afterwards. If you have sheetrock on already due to a reno, you should cut the bottom out a little so that the pan screws directly to the studs. Most pans are designed to have sheetrock above them, but not behind them if that makes sense. Then your poly sheeting walls have the proper drip lines into the pan. As for the thinset onto wood. I'm not sure, but I wonder if that's why he used the sand product and not true thinset

[@bwiseok]

@@huma1000 yes that makes sense

[@gngd5351]

I want to watch the next video Episode 10 but I can not find it. Can you give me a link to the next video? Thank you

[@adamRjensen]

Great videos. Super helpful! Youve helped in a pinch more than once. What is the sand mix called when buying at home depot?

[@ashleym.9682]

9:37 if you get black marker all over your shower pan, use 90% rubbing alcohol (isopropyl alcohol) to wipe it off.

[@jacob_maier]

Do you use sand mix for tubs too?

[@shuppy100]

Do I need that mortar for on a concrete basement rough it?

[@programmerx8455]

Great video!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@photodb]

If you were doing this on concrete, what would you use instead of the sand? Mortar? Thx!

[@gary24752]

Wouldn't it be a good idea to instal Kirdi waterproofing membrane first to prevent and possible damage to the sub-floor and to act as a disconnect between the sub-floor and the mortar bed? Shouldn't the screw holes be elogated to keep from cracking the shower base should there be any flex?

[@mrscoot1]

If you are installing drainline to shower after can you measure your down drainline and go ahead and install it to drain before you set pan? That way you can just glue in pea trap and connect to main drain line! So you do not have to fight with pipe connection after installation! This will only work with new construction and if you have room! Or will this not work or cause a problem?

[@lourdesboet2709]

Any suggestions where to purchase round corner shower pan with glass enclosure?

[@lcook0825]

Great video.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Thanks larry!

[@Kevinbaconator_]

The taps with the mallet are to lightly adjust the slop to better fit your pan, correct? Does the weight of the pan itself do most of the work setting it into the mix? or do i need to add a little pressure?

[@lcook0825]

Hello Jeff.

[@againstallodds404]

Question is there a way to tile over a shower pan without removing it? If so can you do a video please?

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

sorry no! too much deflection.you can buy a tile ready preformed base that is rigid enough so you can gaurantee waterproofing.

[@thankgodimouttahere]

I only have 26 inches from the wall and all pans I can find have 30 inch depth. Are there 26 inch depth pans out there?

[@willnicholson7169]

Maybe you could buy one of those styrofoam shower bases/pans from Schluter (or similar)? Then you could cut it down to fit. Pretty sure I saw that you could do this.

[@kenhilson786]

what about holding the threaded part with rubber strap wrench?

[@dakotasommerville261]

Where did you buy your shower kit from and did it come with walls and the door?

[@TuanNguyen-yl3ms]

Thanks u sir❤

[@dkuemp]

@HomeRenoVisionDIY hey Jeff what would you do in a situation where your shower flange is 1/4 and you have 1/2 board on top. Is there something to put over the flange to make it flush with your wall?