NOTE (Spoiler?): Zed showed very briefly after full clear but he didn't show BEFORE this moment. 28 cs = full clear + crab top to bottom sequence - easy to miss if you're ganking/fighting. I forgot to edit the text after I pepeg brained lol (4 hours sleep sorry) ALSO: During Zed's blue invade he places a control ward but still kinda sus in terms of motives. Think a bit of a lazy brain fart for him rather than 'HEY LETS RANDOMLY CONTROL WARD THIS FOR HERALD' which he ends up losing anyway.
@pedromoraes21293 жыл бұрын
It's hard to pay attetion to that in the early game, but thanks to you i'm getting a little better every day hahah
@alonsoconcha86353 жыл бұрын
Hello virkayu, first I wanted to say thank you for helping me to improve mi jungle skills, and also I would like to know what are your thoughts on jax and pantheon jungle?(jax lethal tempo, pantheon predator).
@cementkyt3 жыл бұрын
virkayu, the modern plato of league, solving all our philosophical conundrums
@virkayu3 жыл бұрын
🙃
@razvan.imurluc3 жыл бұрын
Amazing job virkayu , your channels helped me reach master 300 lp this season prior to my d4 peak :) I love what u do and the way u do it , keep it up
@virkayu3 жыл бұрын
Damn that's huge! well done!
@razvan.imurluc3 жыл бұрын
@@virkayu all you coach !
@FurkiePlays3 жыл бұрын
@razvan wanna coach me out of platinum hahahah
@psychovex16953 жыл бұрын
Thanks for keeping the content rolling out Virkayu, I appreciate all you do for us junglers!
@virkayu3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@majinfreecell3 жыл бұрын
Virkayu: "To gank or to farm? season 12" Me: "To gank farm or to season 12"
@h2relic7212 жыл бұрын
Yup i read it like that as well
@ggpt96413 жыл бұрын
Sometimes, it's just fun to hear Virkayu talk at rapid-fire pace about jungling happening on screen and why things happened and what could've.
@virkayu3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to squeeze in all the brain juice, man.. it's a curse. 2nd channel better for this lol and EVEN THEN it's still an issue
@DonGustavoY3 жыл бұрын
Hey Virkayu, big thanks for your content! You had a big impact on me reaching S10 the first time platinum and now just a couple weeks ago in the end of S11 reaching for the first time diamond. It is a great pleasure watching your videos, keep up the work :)
@stuthagreathebrew76973 жыл бұрын
I don't actively play LoL the way I used to but I have always main Jungle and I still watch your videos to keep up with the meta you do us justice ✊🏾😤 *Grrrr
@shootnado3 жыл бұрын
I did try to pick up ganking junglers this preseason, but my issue is, that as a ganker you put most of the resources in your teammates who may or may not loose the lead. And even if you take the kills the farming jungler still has the potential to outscale you. You have early control but if you have weak lanes the game will slowly slip out of your fingers - where an assassin may collect kills, scale and carry his team from behind.
@Bmanbones3 жыл бұрын
I have no words, just thank you. Wisdom much appreciated. I was asking myself this question for a few days.
@samuli1233 жыл бұрын
This is the type of video ive been waiting for
@virkayu3 жыл бұрын
🙏
@mrfamilyfriendly43703 жыл бұрын
2:30 If Kayn is smart, he walks up to Raptors to place a ward or look if they are cleared. Either Zed is there and he knows he should do Blue to Bot crab, but he sees in this case that they are cleared and he can full clear with chill time and gank Top after. He will also habe a ward on Zeds next rotation.
@gadget65693 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the knowledge, as always. So far I found that the actual meta favors a lot more turbogankers over farming junglers. After all, the champions sitting at the top for now are heroes like Nunu, Yi, Warwick or Rek'Sai who can spam ganks early and bruteforce those ganks with their speed or extra mobility. The only thing that I found to equalize the balance is Predator. I play a lot of Lillia and I find that Predator allows you to match the turbogankers by bypassing traditional ganking process and just brute forcing through sheer speed. I don't have to wait anymore for the lane to be favorable (low HP, out of position, vision deprived ...) now I can just pop Predator and run over ward to wack people with my stick. Is it skillfull? Hell no. Is it the only way I can match a Nunu without my laners wondering why Nunu has ganked them 3 times in 4 minutes while their Dark Harvest Lillia is still peacefully farming krugs? Hell yeah. Now with the Predator nerf (and it had to be nerfed, the rune is blatantly broken right now) I'm curious to see if most of the farming junglers who relied on it will be able to stay relevant.
@MrDrManPerson3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this gank meta is only good in lower elo that can punishes out of position players. If they play safe and ward well then the power farmers become much more relevant. If you try to invest you can get collapsed on a lot quicker by safer players. I am a nunu main btw.
@gadget65693 жыл бұрын
@@MrDrManPerson I'm not much of a statistics guy, but this time the number tell another story. In both low and high elo, the top winrates are by far for the gankers (Trundle, Rammus, Zac, Xin, Nunu, WW, Vi...) while the farmers have pretty much all went down in popularity and winrates % . Lillia, Noc, Eve, Kayn, Nida... Although I don't really like super ganky meta, I'm not too worried about it. Pre season is always wack and everything gets thrown around all the time. They're already nerfing lots of tank items so the Sejuani and Skarners that suddenly got back into the game will probably end up getting into the "who dis?" category.
@MrDrManPerson3 жыл бұрын
@@gadget6569 I don't know what numbers you are looking at but Yi counters everything you just said. Yi is a power farmer and has one of the highest win rates, pick rates, and ban rates this patch. Fiddlesticks counters this, amumu, shyvanna, kindred. I am looking at mobalytics right now, and they are up there.
@skylerfreeman11733 жыл бұрын
@@MrDrManPerson I'm just in plat lol and this video is kind of misleading. The kayn ganks literally had 100% success rate, i dont think i saw a single flash escape either early even. He says this works for 'any jungler' as well but kayn legit turboing through walls and bypassing would-be wards lol. I get the premise but come on its 2021 people HAVE gotten better, this may work in like low gold and below (where most players are) but if those ganks had even a 70% success rate, he'd have been throwing the game lol. Im not saying its impossible, just not a consistent way of jungling i guess idk im just a plat pleb
@jakob93973 жыл бұрын
Can you pls use odins powers to tell the rioters to finaly finish that rengar rework? No srly they announced it in august; where mini rework?
@marsepain3 жыл бұрын
You've forgotten an upside to the Ganking approach: dealing mental damages to laners who deserve getting back some of the love they usually type.
@Trickyred123 жыл бұрын
Helping me improve at Qiyana jungle
@virkayu3 жыл бұрын
Ganking or farming? Qiyana: yes
@Trickyred123 жыл бұрын
@@virkayu exactly
@xlunaxlovex3 жыл бұрын
This was much needed, thanks coach.. 🙏 I'm trying to go back to jungling and trying different combos and champions. Haven't been going well tbh with the lvl4 struggle, I think I need to limit myself to 2 or 3 champions and just git gud lul
@Neelo_Angelo3 жыл бұрын
I'm not good at jungling but your vids really gives me confident to keep play and master that role thanks Vir.
@MrDrManPerson3 жыл бұрын
If you are feeling overwhelmed please feel free to try garen. He is a surprisingly good jungler. He counters warwick, assassins, mages, and ability fighters, and is a good bruiser. Has good ganks, easy clears that get very good clears mid game. His ultimate is an execute that really punishes low health.
@Neelo_Angelo3 жыл бұрын
Will try thanks
@stephenbair15683 жыл бұрын
These are awesome videos. Just beginning to jungle and the videos have helped tremendously. Thanks
@dippy45143 жыл бұрын
im making the transition to mid lane this preseason, your content has been very informative and helpful, do you have any mid lane peers who make content similar to yours that youd recomend?
@valheia23592 жыл бұрын
you’re an amazing creator! thank you for all your hard work
@virkayu2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@abbadon36443 жыл бұрын
5:00 that thresh is getting x4 after the game for that play.
@Thevoidlezz3 жыл бұрын
im still figuring out what to do 3 camp and or full if a champ could do both but crab always last in first clear but low elo is enemy is not pushed under there tower oke them we 3 camp gank
@penanutpenuatya3 жыл бұрын
I want to know about Wukong jungle. Is it viable? Can you make a gameplay on it in the near future? I would love to learn how to use it properly
@edgarventura74973 жыл бұрын
From what I've learned: Don't farm too much, and don't gank too much. Basically my whole poppy playstyle of 4cs/min and 70% kp doesn't work aswell as before.
@citizencj33893 жыл бұрын
Depends. Some ganking junglers like jarvan are so utility heavy that it doesn't matter.
@edgarventura74973 жыл бұрын
@@citizencj3389 Ekko is another one that imo is pretty strong rn
@citizencj33893 жыл бұрын
@@edgarventura7497 Yeah he is decent in solo queue. Ideal if he has some AD bruiser in the mid lane
@nifubias14943 жыл бұрын
what skin is that in the top left of the thumbnail?
@SHACNBAKE3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your information, even if i am a hated shaco main :P
@virkayu3 жыл бұрын
I love you. I hate your champion.
@SHACNBAKE3 жыл бұрын
@@virkayu Thanks boss . Hey I'm struggling to make quality based content and I'm not sure how to fix it. Ice watched so many videos on settings and tweak this or that but I can't get it right. Any tips?
@dashanebrown95642 жыл бұрын
I recently picked up Kayn, and idk man, my games feel like a coin flip, on other jgs like nunu I do alright but kayn because of the need to get orbs is different, if you tank and it fails your screwed, literally , I just need to learn what to focus on and when
@donsensey3 жыл бұрын
Hey! that's a new Vi's skin in the thumbnail or what? I want to see that image 's full version but I don't think that's a skin
@virkayu3 жыл бұрын
No it's from Runeterra but it's her Debonair skin in League
@donsensey3 жыл бұрын
@@virkayu Thank you!
@sik-nb8fz3 жыл бұрын
great vid, but what should you do when there might be not enough down time to farm especially in low elo where the top and mid laner only knows how to stay under tur or push and back so there is always a gank avaible, so do I give up the ganks to farm or should i keep the tempo up and eep ganking
@Arthur-sv1vk2 жыл бұрын
do whats working. If you can spam ganks and they all are successful, do that. Whenever you lose the tempo (failing a gank), pace back to farming. You'll find the harmony eventually.
@schmidtyhk3 жыл бұрын
Hey Virkayu, thanks so much for the work into your jungler videos. I'm a new jungler and I'm learning so much from your videos. I had a question to ask, I've picked up Warwick because I've seen he's decent meta-wise and easier to learn as a newbie. My only question is, I don't know the champions well enough yet to know what is a good/bad gank lane...are there any factors I should be considering?
@gadget65693 жыл бұрын
Until Virkayu replies, here are some things to factor in : - amount of CC and especially hard CC present in the lane - scaling - Current environment in the lane (HP balance, position : is the lane being pushed or being pushed-in?) For example, if your bottom lane is a Jinx/Nautilus duo vs a Xerath/KogMaw and you're playing Lillia, it's an extremely good lane to gank. Nautilus has a lot of engage and rooting power, while Jinx can combo with her root and slow and scales extremely hard so she'll benefit a lot from the gank. Meanwhile, Xerath and Kog have no hard CC or mobility to disengage. Reverse example : if you're playing Lillia again (hard hitting jungler but with no extra mobility, no hard CC and overall skillshot reliant jungler) and your top lane is a Kayle vs Kench, unless Kench is really low or overextending, you'll be mostly wasting your time. Early game Kayle can't provide any damage or support whereas Kench is supremely tanky and has a strong escape option. If you're playing Warwick, a fast champion who specializes in quick, brutal engage and finishing off wounded champions, the factors that matter the most to you is lane state (HP balance and lane position : if there are any wounded champions or if they're even slightly overextending, you can run in there, fear them and secure the kill)
@schmidtyhk3 жыл бұрын
@@gadget6569 Thanks for the response. I guess I need to learn the champions first because I still don't fully know who has CC/scales well or not. But I understand what you're saying, thanks!
@gadget65693 жыл бұрын
@@schmidtyhk If you're very new and looking to grasp a better understanding of champions pool, here are a few options to help you instead of grinding knowledge about the whole hundred+ champions, something that'll take you hundreds of game to acquire : 1- Go to League of Graphs - Champions Stats and filter the champions by role and by popularity then winrate. That way you'll have a good sample of the most frequent heroes you'll face in every position, then you can look up those champions in whatever websites you want and read about their skills. This way, you only need one hour to learn about the two or three dozens of champions you'll face all the time. There's no need for you yet to learn what Taric or Braum can do, but you'll miss out of you don't know what skills Blitzkrank or Lulu have. 2- Play ARAM a lot, it's a good way to practice mechanics and teamfights, as well as play as and face many differents champs, including non-meta ones.
@baseballlagniappe173 жыл бұрын
Another Great video from the raw spud jungler himself. Question, who are the best ganking junglers for season 12?
@ivailoivanov013 жыл бұрын
Your video are pure art!
@jonathanong37283 жыл бұрын
NIDALEE IS A FARMING JUNGLER? how does that work? she cant scale that well last time i check. did something change?
@jordidewaard29373 жыл бұрын
Nidalee has a very fast clear. Would not classify her as a farming jg, but I can see where he's coming from (also Nida LOVES invading, kinda similar to Graves if it's ganking meta). I think Nida can be both a ganking and farming champ tbh
@jonathanong37283 жыл бұрын
@@jordidewaard2937 thank u
@diegodiaz86853 жыл бұрын
Then the season is more gank oriented, but at the same time is late game champs oriented? Bc of the bountys, right?
@citizencj33893 жыл бұрын
It's more ganking oriented for the junglers. Late game orient for laners especially mid and bot lane. It's mid game orient for top lane.
@MrLolguy933 жыл бұрын
Kinda off topic, but is Mundo jungle good or troll? Also, what's the best item/rune build?
@MrDrManPerson3 жыл бұрын
He is a good jungler just not good in general as he is a tank. Tanks aren't very strong this meta as they can be bursted quicker then ever. You can still make him work but don't get cocky, your a damage sponge, don't forget it.
@zanderwakefield42013 жыл бұрын
IM ON A 8 GAME LOSING STREAK IN THE JUNGLE I NEEDED THIS SO BAD that’s Bc I only started to main jg in s11
@migg_umm3 жыл бұрын
Not related to the video .Is there someone that similar to Virkayu, but for the support role
@JH-fd9xt3 жыл бұрын
is voli still okay? I feel like Im getting rekt left and right in jg.
@virkayu3 жыл бұрын
Yeah with the build I outlined in my OP Build video he's still good but obviously not optimal overall atm... lots of fighting junglers which he likes but requires a bit of a different approach
@Dont_Trip_Gibbs3 жыл бұрын
A rengar game soon perhaps :o
@purlzbeforeswine3 жыл бұрын
Please make a video about punishing a ganking jungler! For example, what Zed should have done here!
@souffka3 жыл бұрын
I would remove Lilia from the easy farming category, yes her spells aren't that complex but navigating her in teamfights and initiations is quite complex
@MrDrManPerson3 жыл бұрын
Very true. She is a glass cannon and her jungle farming isn't even that easy. While sure, the basic is, the room to improve is huge, if you can kite your camps perfectly Lillia becomes one of the best farmers in the game, if not, she is average.
@furanshiso75833 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your job
@spine-o18923 жыл бұрын
at last we will have our revenge
@StephenScray3 жыл бұрын
Use your five senses; forgets smell, and feel.
@toruoikawa6002 жыл бұрын
my biggest problem is my team immediately being toxic towards me and them refusing to play
@kar310003 жыл бұрын
Yay sneeky ad show up on my face hahaha KZbin
@virkayu3 жыл бұрын
But what
@kar310003 жыл бұрын
@@virkayu pro guides seneky ad is cursed
@snave51883 жыл бұрын
I spent 5 minutes trying to read that thumbnail
@ValentinaBluedog3 жыл бұрын
Is that a new Vi skin? 👀 (thumbnail)
@virkayu3 жыл бұрын
yes but for Runeterra lmao.. they are usually new official arts of skins we have (debonair) in League...
@magnivhafakot3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@noratempest71153 жыл бұрын
Great vid but the text on the thumbnail hurt my head a bit lol.
@SurYT173 жыл бұрын
It’s aight now
@JohnM963 жыл бұрын
I would love a video about Junglers whose kits allow them to be relevant regardless of meta. Whether it's gank heavy, farm heavy, or whatever.
@RealSunic3 жыл бұрын
Respect my Ivern!
@PeoplePleaser5783 жыл бұрын
So the Kayn is Malrang and the Zed is Razork xD
@toonolas96543 жыл бұрын
How the first two seconds of a video makes u close it
@ikayne56973 жыл бұрын
Yo everyone needs to listen to his voice on 0.5x playback speed 😂👌
@wiellnyan3 жыл бұрын
Farm form objectives, karasmai...
@Omegasenron2 жыл бұрын
This title made me question my ability to read.
@gabrielbaieel80733 жыл бұрын
If this supp played right The kain wouldnt have his way so easily
@alexanderromero97013 жыл бұрын
Bottom line...if you got a redbuff on you,please look for a gank
@starryknight77003 жыл бұрын
To Gank farm or to season 12
@haheisenberg7673 жыл бұрын
Nice guide, just one thing that didn't click for me: Zed and Talon are not junglers, they are midlaners and seeing them in jungle is nothing more than a bug. Don't believe me? Remember how Sylas was treated when he was playable in jungle. Riot sent a straight message that midlaners are not wanted in the jungle so Talon and Zed should go back to trash where they belong.
@virkayu3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but Sylas was in the jungle by accident, Riot literally BUFFED Talon and Zed to be in the jungle. They want them there.
@justabeholder47533 жыл бұрын
Ok so, a little rant time, I had my first day of eSports club Thursday two weeks ago and Thursdays are the days when people play league of legends in this club, and then because so may people wanted to go I got shoved back to Wednesday, and now I have to play Apex legends like I play Apex, and I was the best league player in that place, I can't play a game I'm good at instead I have to play fucking apex legends
@justabeholder47533 жыл бұрын
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@BluRez3 жыл бұрын
Please get new mic
@virkayu3 жыл бұрын
It's an Electrovoice RE320 but okay. Try new headphones.
@chimokari88113 жыл бұрын
this guy really talked for 15 minutes straight without breathing. toooooo much information for players that need to look at these types of videos to do well. you confuse more than you help when you're constantly talking. keep the information short and concrete