How To Keep Track Of Drivers Hours And Working Time Directive

[@KevTee]

If you found this video helpful, check out this video for drivers hours basics kzbin.info/www/bejne/kF7QoXqIfLZrbNE

[@wellman8998]

KevTee it’s Nathan from faast. I’ve got my cpc test in two weeks for my bus test. What did you use to learn it ?

[@stonesie81]

I've just passed my Class C/2 so I've got to say thank you for these videos, they're a big help for someone like me coming from the Bus industry where all this is handled for us to HGV where it's on me and the fines are not trivial. Really helping me to get my head around all the different regulations. I'm just waiting for my cards back from the DVLA then it's on to the trucks, employers seem to want to see them despite being able to confirm everything online now.

[@Wirefox1]

Good stuff, I will watch this before bed as I have a start at my new job tomorrow. Slightly apprehensive but looking forward to it too.

[@KevTee]

+Tim Waterhouse hop you found it helpful and your first day went well Tim 👍

[@Sarge084]

I've been using Trucker Timer for several years now and I'm used to it, know all the features and find it helpful in other ways. On jobs with run sheets (I'm exclusively agency s work varies.) I find the log particularly useful if I've missed some arrival and departure entries. It's also useful for an at-a-glance check of my daily and weekly hours to ensure I don't go over.

[@stevehoulihan726]

I downloaded this app but I must've had the basic one. I need to re download it and get this version. Had a bit of a disagreement with my boss, who's recently done the 2 week CPC course. Told me that driving time is the time sat behind the wheel, not what the tacho counts as the wheels move. Also wouldn't have it when I said that it was what the tacho reads when the wheels move and that's what DVSA go by, just said "no they don't". Then a couple of days later said I need to put the tacho on break or POA each time I stop in traffic. Great video, by the way. I've just watched your driving hours one, bloddy confusing and hard to get my head around! But my driving is mor sporadic and no teo days are the same.

[@Marky.H]

Thanks for the effort you put into your blogs mate. Very informative

[@bengunns]

Just got that app Tacho Guard used it straight away. What a great tip thanks for sharing that.

[@KevTee]

Glad you found it helpful Ben 👌

[@jamesfletcher1111]

Great video Kev I've been using it for a few days now but didn't know what some of the modes and displays were. Top work 👌

[@alansimpson8735]

Hi Kev another great video for new drivers to help them keep up with the great work that you do and keep them great videos coming has well drive carefully and stay safe my friend

[@tatradak]

Just paid for it... I'm totally dyslexic when it comes to numbers so if helps I'll get back to you on how it performs..

[@mick6263]

Looks like the ideal App.! I will pay & download when I'm on the road! Great Vlog.

[@GAZ_X]

Great video, thanks. I have just got my Class 1 HGV licence, what do you use for a sat nav? My first day out tomorrow in a class 2.

[@Sarge084]

I use Trucker Timer on Android, I know it's what I'm used to, but I think it's laid out better and provides more information at a glance. It does have the automatic GPS feature but I avoid it as it eats the battery. I prefer to use the tachograph itself for accurate drive time and Trucker Timer for WTD, daily and weekly rests. It also tells me if I've used reduced rest period, and how much time I need to make up for reduced weekly rest. I used to make mistakes before Trucker Timer that I don't make anymore!

[@easyyards3154]

Hey Kev, great video, but I’m looking for a bit of clarification as I’ve found so many contradictory views online. 1) Do you have to keep the app open on the phone home screen at all times? Or does it run in the back ground? 2) If so, what happens when you want to use the phone for other things? 3) could you use the app on an android tablet instead? 4) if the apps on your phone and you take it with you, on other work mode, whilst you walk around the lorry and yard etc does it detect movement on the gps and switch to driving? Or, as long as you remember to take it off of gps mode, by selecting other work, it will stay in that mode until you are ready to drive and switch it back to gps? The video was great, as usual, but I’d love a bit more of the real world practicalities as well as the actual restrictions with this app. Thanks in advance Easyyards.

[@amogrows]

very helpful video I shall try this when I start driving "break" and "not break" makes it easy again, surely employers do not expect new drivers to remember all of this on their first day without a card/sheet for reference? we ent all academics some of us learn by doing / repetition is there a truck satnav with this built in?

[@BianShaw]

bloody brilliant kev i had a little stop watch (like what trucker steve had on his dash) in his early vids👍 they have an app for everything. this is being purchased in the background. will be recommending the app and yourself buddy. great info video. keeps these shortcut helpers coming 👍

[@KevTee]

+brian shaw cheers Brian, glad you found it helpful, I've used tacho guard for the last 12 months and swear by it, I've tested a few and find this one the most user friendly 👍

[@MrFavourites333]

Hi Kev, Thanks for a great video really helpful.Will this app run in the background or does it have to be left on the front screen all the time ?

[@gazzagofast]

great app, tacho's should be like this with colourful touch screens and all the info

[@KevTee]

+31gazza31 gofast I completely agree, would make life so much easier....

[@alba9507]

Good stuff, really enjoy the videos. My story is similar to yours in that i was a manager in the manufacturing sector for most of my working life & at the young age of 50 I'd had enough & just passed my class 2 last week, just waiting for my license , CPC card & Digital Tachograph card to come through & hopefully find work soon 😁

[@KevTee]

+John McGowan that's great to hear, your never to old to try something new. Good luck with the job hunting and don't forget to stay in touch and let us know how your getting on 👍

[@alba9507]

KevTee I may have a job offer doing Tipper work, do you have any experience of Tipper work? Cheers John

[@KevTee]

John McGowan I've done class 1 bulk tipper work. quite enjoyed it, just didn't get on company.

[@gordonanderson6216]

I think I'll get the app, thanks for the idea. At the moment I use a dive watch bezel to keep track of my breaks.

[@KevTee]

Hope you find it helpful Gordon 👍

[@leeroy5065]

Hi Kev, brilliant instructions. I've just downloaded it. Could you advise me with regards to logging entries please. I'm a newbie class 1 driver who is currently wanting part time driving work. I work a rota shift within the steel industry and I'm struggling to understand the law regulations regarding part time WTD hours. My initial understanding is that I'm still limited to 60 working hrs per week which includes my Steelworks job. Should I log my non driving hours as other work and log my rota days as rest on the app, then as I do the occasional driving shift lod it as normal. So confused as a new driver 🤯🤯

[@josephbrady835]

Yes good video keV, my question is euro working directive , night shift ten hours, you say the ten hours can be exceeded, if there's an agreement, who would the agreement be with ones company or does the company need the agreement with the department of transport?? Cheers,!

[@stuartcraigon2003]

❤ cheers for this Kev, this is a massive help.

[@amycastle188]

How do you know if you're approaching a weekly rest.... As u cud put in weekly rest when u click the option but might be rung up to cover a job. Or do you just change the option to other work/driving when you are no longer taking that weekly rest. I guess you would see on the app how many hours u have left on weekly driving anyway right

[@jamesmorley5811]

Hi Kev, thanks for this. Are you still using this app? It does look good and I'm thinking of switching to android/pixel from iPhone to get it. My old iPhone needs upgrading anyway! Also what phone do you use? I'm thinking google pixel? Interested to hear your views - many thanks. I'm a new pass who has just started a days FOFO shift doing local work. best James

[@KevTee]

Hi James, yes I still use the app daily, it helps keep a record for new or experienced drivers. My current phone is a Samsung galaxy s22 but if you watch one of my latest videos I actually run the app on a 10inch Samsung tablet mounted on the dash, this is because it was a spare tablet and my current truck has a built in tablet holder, hope that helps 👍

[@jamesmorley5811]

Thanks so much Kev, I’ll seek out that later vid. Cheers James

[@ryoimibu4455]

Nice video been driving for past 7 years and i just started to use the app but do you have any ideas how to open the logs/database

[@KevTee]

Glad you found the video helpful mate. Hit the menu in the top left, then log editor, there you will find all the logs and you can edit them as you wish 👍

[@Video-tu4vn]

Enquiry from Australia, where we still use paper logbooks, although many trucks have GPS telematics fitted for fleet management purposes. If you are on a break in the UK with a Tacho, say for instance while waiting in a queue. If you start the truck and move forward briefly and slowly, is there any tolerance built into tacho's which allows you to do this as though you are on continuous break and if so is this permitted by the authorities.

[@KevTee]

If you move the tachograph will automatically switch modes and interrupt the break 👍

[@Sarge084]

On second generation tachographs you can creep forward, or backward, about a metre at a time, keeping speed below (approximately) 5 mph. I've used this several times.

[@rostilj92]

I want to ask you one question. Because break and poa are not counted in working hours, so for example if I had 10h of drive and work only, and 4 hours of poa and break together, am I going to make daily rest according to that 10h of drive and work ( 11h daily rest) , or I will do daily rest according to 14h of that all stuff put together, drive, work, break, poa ( 9h daily rest) ?

[@leemills8531]

great vid but how about when your out of the truck and walking say in a RDC, does it stay locked on other work or rest !

[@robreddick3859]

Hi Kev So I purchased Tachoguard yesterday after trying the lite version and your recommendation cause it was a pain keep changing modes wanted something that would change between modes automatically but alas this is not happening...what am I doing wrong? I'm having to change modes manually which I shouldn't have to...I await your reply.. Robbie.

[@BLACKSTARR2006]

will it be accepted by the DVSA if stopped and need to prove stuff to them ?

[@ferg492]

Looks better than scrolling through the tacho What about when your on daily or weekly rest, do you switch off the GPS?

[@KevTee]

Yes you can turn off GPS and Tacho Guard will continue counting rest until you turn on GPS in the app 👍

[@ferg492]

KevTee cheers mate I'm on trying it now for the first time, see how it goes I do a night trunk, I put it on the wrong break at first so might of messed it up, never mind though eh

[@KevTee]

Once you get to grips with it it's a really useful app, I use it all day every day.

[@MrTheomighty1]

Hi all, I’m working for a skip company this is my first week of being employed by them, it’s tough going, the work load is out of this world even at the start of the day you know there is no chance of completing the daily jobs. I start at 6am, I then have a break at 10.15, I work then upto 12.15 and have a 30 min break, I then work through until 6pm do I need to have a break between then 12.15pm and 6pm ??????

[@MrIndrai]

Hi KevTee Thanks for the video but I can't find this app on iPhone app?can you share a links please Thanks

[@Roadshome]

Is the cost of the app per month year or one off payment ? Price has now gone up to £4.79 but it doesn't tell ya if it's a one off etc .

[@mrhbarker]

Great video btw Kev...3 years down the road are you still using it?

[@adamali8436]

Hi kev. Gteat vid. Is there a way to turn app off because it continuously runs in the background?

[@davidmolyneux2187]

How do you reset the app? Or does it reset auto, i bought it yesterday and was having a bit of a play but i want it clear when i start monday

[@jasoncorrie8875]

hiya does this carry on if u answer a phone call or need to check something on my phone. while gps is on thanks

[@jameschorley1711]

I do use that all all the time leg it is very useful

[@KevTee]

Yes, really handy for keeping track 👍

[@SuperVincent2011]

Hi mate just passed my class 2 and just got this app what settings do you have it on for gps stop and start like when you hit traffic lights how log before it turns to other work and not driving

[@vincentjones3080]

@kevtee love the videos. How do you plan to drive up to your 4.5 hour drive time limit?

[@noelborg4475]

The problem with this is that you can't do a manual entry so you can't have the right timing results. as on your end of shift let's say you took out the drivers card at 7pm next morning you need to enter the time you left the yard of that same day which at least you add 10 minutes as other work , so for this App to work you need to keep it on other work for 10m longer before placing it to rest on your end of shift, and when starting next day let's say 7am you need to place it to other work right away at 7am so then it will match the timing better. I'm not sure of this yet but in the logs they should have an option to do a manual entry. maybe i'm wrong as i only had this few days. i did contact Pat who owns this app to add the ferry option and told her about your vid and the reason i purchased the app, Well best is to keep logs on a notebook . Regards.

[@KevTee]

+Noel Borg it's very easy to edit any entries to compensate for any manual entries in the log editor. This is how I edit my times at the start and finish of shift without any problems for the last 2 years, really easy once you get the hang of it. Thanks for mentioning my video to the app creator 👍

[@michaelevans4985]

Hi kev. Is this right? Daily rest is 11 hours which can be reduced to 9 hours 3 times per week?

[@KevTee]

Correct 👍

[@steveriley3452]

Kev, Can you do video on how to make this match you drivers card with the Log Editor.

[@noelborg4475]

Hi, Is it a one time purchase,or have to pay every year? great vid thanks!

[@KevTee]

+Noel Borg just the one time purchase mate 👍

[@noelborg4475]

Hi Mate, got the app but i notice it has no ferry boarding option interruption on rest.

[@philwilliwilliams6768]

hi kev what happens to the mode if you take the phone outside to the office

[@irek6133]

I have problem with this app mean do not automatically switch between driving and work..?? I payd for full version but will have to do that manually all the time.. Can someone know why?

[@chrisdavison2022]

Good to actually see someone showing a tacho timer 'in use'. But I've heard of another app called 'Trucker Timer'... Have you any knowledge of that one..?

[@KevTee]

+Goldfinger I purchased and used 'trucker timer' before 'tacho guard' but I didn't find it as user friendly or as complete as tacho guard.

[@chrisdavison2022]

Brilliant cheers for the info... I'll get that one instead.... Still looking to even get a start on the big stuff though...

[@KevTee]

+Goldfinger keep plugging away mate, something will come along eventually 👍

[@Ddfhhdd12345]

Hope they make this app for apple. Good video

[@tinoferns888]

Hello Bud, how do I compensate the hours. Taa

[@leekellyplayle4140]

I take it you need to have sufficient data on your phone to allow the gps to track you? great channel btw started working class 2 here and there for agency with 3.5 tonne and 7.5 chucked in until a firm takes a chance on me

[@KevTee]

No internet connection need for the app mate, just uses gps from your phone. Good luck with the new job 👌

[@leekellyplayle4140]

KevTee cheers mate, I'll dowmload the full app and hopefully will have the 5" garmin dezll 570 lmt-d truck sat coming sometime this week should make it bit easier

[@jaydee1959ok]

Most gps on modern phones does'nt use data.

[@theokool1736]

Cheers Kev, good video, its a shame we cant have this or other app on our sat nav unless someone out there knows of one?

[@KevTee]

You need to watch this video mate 👍 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqbMm398jK1ql9k

[@jamesmcphate3553]

Downloaded the paid version . but what is the best GPS settings like the stopped speed and stuff .

[@KevTee]

I always just used the standard settings, there pretty well optimized. I played with them once but had to reinstall the app as it messed everything up 😂

[@jamesmcphate3553]

@@KevTee Cheers Kev thats what i was doing .

[@mozzahog]

Just downloaded it thank you 👍

[@mozzahog]

Passed my class 2 today b using it next week cheers have good one

[@Niall-q4r]

Hi Mate , do you need your mobile data on for it to work while driving etc

[@KevTee]

Mobile data no, just GPS turned on 👍

[@Niall-q4r]

@@KevTee cheers 🍻 for that , the salvage work you do , you like it better than driving artics with trailers Kev

[@Paul_i_is]

One question Kev if I use a non gps android will it still work if not do you know what models will work with this app please Thank you very much for your vids great viewing especially for new drivers

[@KevTee]

+Paul Davies Hi Paul, it will work on any android device without GPS, just means you would have to switch modes manually. Most modern phones and tablets now have GPS, what non GPS android device are you trying to use the app with? Cheers

[@Paul_i_is]

KevTee well I have all iOS devices and although I have trucker timer this app visually looks the better app the cheapest android I can find is the fire hd 8 but it doesn't have gps

[@KevTee]

+Paul Davies ok I see what you mean, watch my latest video, it could have the answer your looking for 😉

[@MrEdwardsno8]

another top video sir thanks 😀

[@KevTee]

+FATBOY666 no problem, thank you for watching and commenting 👍

[@spankyanks4376]

Hi can anyone help mine is not going over the driving when I'm driving stays on break or other work, GPS is on can't figure it out any help please?

[@fletchclan46]

Morning. as a new Hgv class 2 driver. a am looking into buying this , just one question, would I need to have mobile data on. if so i would need more mobile data. cheers Alan

[@KevTee]

+fletchclan46 morning mate, no data needed apart from initially downloading the app, just uses gps data to switch between modes 👍

[@fletchclan46]

Thanks for your quick response. informal interview this morning for my first hgv class 2 . all goes well i will be buying app later. thanks for your time av a good day mate

[@KevTee]

+fletchclan46 no problem, trucks being serviced so I'm have a catch up 😉 good luck with the interview mate 👍

[@fletchclan46]

I got the job 🖒🖒⛟⛟😆😆

[@KevTee]

+fletchclan46 fantastic mate, that's great news, anything like me, I bet you can't wait to get cracking 😂 🚛💨💨💨

[@valentine75]

Hi Kev in the GPS settings what do you GPS stopped delay and moving delay set to?

[@KevTee]

Just the default settings mate.

[@fireman5485]

Hi How to change color like yours please?

[@Astralcrusader]

I've just bought the app. It has put me onto rest from the moment I installed it. However, my weekly rest started yesterday, 11 hours ago, not 20 minutes ago! Is there any way to make a manual entry to correct this please?

[@KevTee]

Not sure you can back date anything pre installation mate, maybe go into the log editor and give it a try 👍

[@jimpakenham4657]

Hi Kev. Can not find tacho guard on the App Store. Can you tell me where you got it or am i looking in the wrong place. Regards. Jim

[@KevTee]

+jim pakenham hi Jim, if your on iPhone its not yet available, Android only for the time being. Cheers

[@jimpakenham4657]

KevTee Thank you you your swift response. Cheers

[@KevTee]

+jim pakenham no problem mate, I believe a good alternative app for iPhone users is trucker timer 👍

[@jotleyjohn]

I've downloaded the app as suggested (the bought one) its always running in the background, how do I turn it off when not needed please

[@philhaiselden4205]

I find if you go to settings select apps, scroll to this app click and hold, select force stop.

[@lukesmith7047]

I commented awhile back asking if you could help me with keeping a record of drivers hours in a notebook. I bought this app on IOS and just thought it would be much reliable if I kept a manual record, not sure how I can keep a manual copy. Hope you can help me, New to this. Cheers

[@KevTee]

Hi Luke, yes I remember you asking the question, I have copied and pasted the answer I gave some time ago below. I may also do a video on this in the coming weeks. Hey Luke, most of my records are done by app but I do keep a paper back up, I fill in a page per week diary where I record start and finish time, daily drive time, weekly drive time, fortnight drive time, daily breaks, total working time minus breaks, weekly working time minus breaks and finally daily rest. Hope that helps, might make a video if i can fit it in at some point 👍

[@lukesmith7047]

thank you hope to see the video pop pop soon, thank you

[@joshuagregory232]

What does POA what does it stand for I just passed my test 2 days ago

[@hadrianbird8409]

Joshua Gregory Period Of Availability POA! POA will eat into your working time but not your driving time.

[@stephenjp13]

POA stops the clock on the working hours, although you are still available for work e.g on a ferry or waiting to be called for unloading.

[@anthonybrazil5198]

Hello there i have got this app and mine says shift unavailable???????????

[@mumtazzafar1576]

kev great video's m8 . keep em coming. why beard though lol

[@KevTee]

Fancied a change and I like looking 10 years younger when I shave it off 😂😂

[@Paul_i_is]

Hi Kev although i haven't actually started driving work yet (hopefully soon) ive got the Trucker Timer for IOS just wondered Do these apps work in the background for daily and weekly rest periods i guess if the phone or tablet switches off the app stops timing, any tips appreciated

[@KevTee]

+Paul Davies Hi Paul, I've not spent a lot of time with Trucker Timer to be 100% but if it's anything like Tacho Guard then it should be fine, my phone regularly gets turned off and it's never lost track of daily or weekly rest, I can only assume they utilise the phones built in clock. Hope that helps.

[@Paul_i_is]

thanks Kev sup[er star :)

[@WisdomShortvids]

thanks for that bought it :)

[@KevTee]

Great, hope you find it helpful 👍

[@deanpedley]

Great video m8

[@KevTee]

+Dean thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it 👍

[@KevTee]

+Dean Cheers Dean, thanks for watching 👍

[@williamengland1347]

Does it track rolling hours in 24 hr period

[@KevTee]

Yes 👍

[@anthonygaunt8974]

Love the app wish it was free😊

[@entity_dragons2013]

Great app thanks

[@KevTee]

+d happy cheers, glad you found it helpful 👍

[@darran2723]

trucker timer is availble on android have this one and yours find trucker timer easier to use

[@KevTee]

+darran christy hey mate, I've used trucker timer but didn't find it as accurate but that may of been down to compatibility with my phone. I find tacho guard's interface easier to use but it depends what best suits you, maybe good to try both and see what works best for you. Cheers

[@darran2723]

KevTee just a quick question im thinking about doing my own vlog based on coaches maybe a stupid question but how do i spread the word to get people to view many thanks Darran

[@lukesmith7047]

hello, any chance you can post a video or explain how you keep a manual record of driving per day and weekly to comply with drivers rules, Im in the military but leaving soon so it would be a great help if you could explain how you keep records. Thank you really good videos btw. keep up the good work.

[@KevTee]

Hey Luke, most of my records are done by app but I do keep a paper back up, I fill in a page per week diary where I record start and finish time, daily drive time, weekly drive time, fortnight drive time, daily breaks, total working time minus breaks, weekly working time minus breaks and finally daily rest. Hope that helps, might make a video if i can fit it in at some point 👍

[@BlueAngelsMCScotland]

I have used this app for a couple of months and always use the lowest brightness that I can still see the screen on. But it has given my 3 month old Samsung s9 really bad screen burn and now have the outline of the app permanently burned into my new phones display. Just to warn other users. I will continue to use app but will no longer leave my screen on when using it.

[@KevTee]

Yes it is an issue, I mentioned it in the video and made the developer aware. I often pull the notification tab down to cover the ring, sorry to hear your phone suffered the same as mine ☹

[@darthtool8131]

@@KevTee thats a problem with OLED displays, they burn in a similar fashion to plasma and first generation LCD screens.. any average LCD/Retina display is generally burn-proof.

[@jamesfoster716]

So you still use this?

[@English.Andy1]

Very complicated system I prefer pen & paper method

[@KevTee]

+Andyb2379 it's really useful for new drivers and pretty simple once you get the hang of it, I mainly use it for wtd but its really helpful as a quick overview. I also keep a written record as a backup in case the app fails.

[@johns9855]

Whats compensation

[@KevTee]

+john s if you take a reduced weekly rest you must compensate by paying back the remaining rest within 3 weeks.

[@mumtazzafar1576]

very good lol

[@Taylors_Adventures]

any one know best app to use on ios

[@KevTee]

Try trucker timer 👍

[@Taylors_Adventures]

KevTee cheers

[@BLACKSTARR2006]

5 pounds now!!! lol but still worth it

[@thetrucksimchap]

👍

[@djedUVprojector]

0:39 "lots of rules easy to remember..." proceeds to use the most complicated app known to man... Its all OK keeping your own record but the issue is entering correctly your times into a crappy tacho machine with a poor interface where mistakes can cost you

[@andrewmacdonald9166]

What a ridiculous amount of rules, just drive the fucking lorry.

[@KevTee]

+Andrew Macdonald we don't make the rules unfortunately......

[@ashleyjohnson2593]

please stop saying, "'ERM"' throughout your commentary

[@KevTee]

EEEEERRRRMMMM....... No